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So, what do you think of the British?

Aust
25-10-2005, 11:32
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D
Mariehamn
25-10-2005, 11:33
I wish I knew where Yorkshire was, then I might have an opinion.

The food isn't as bad as the French say, it rains a lot, and I love Scotland.
Fass
25-10-2005, 11:34
If they're not Scottish, they're crap! (Said in a Scottish accent.)

That is all.
Aust
25-10-2005, 11:39
Yorkshire-gods own country, right in the middle of the country. can't miss it, big place, lot of hills.
Kanabia
25-10-2005, 11:44
You have awesome rock music but the royal family gives me the shits.
Mariehamn
25-10-2005, 11:44
Nice place, went through there on me way to Scotland.

On my first Google, all I got was dogs. After slapping myself in the face, I added "map" and now I learned something today. I also remember fighting with Vikings over that plot of land in M:TW Viking Invasion, but that's another story...Believe that's a British title of somesort.
Fass
25-10-2005, 11:45
You have awesome rock music but the royal family gives me the shits.

Isn't that a good thing?
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 11:47
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D
Since I've never been there, I have virtually no opinion on Yorkshire, but as far as England is concerned, it's the home of many, many great things: pints, Big Ben, cricket, and sexy women; the antics of the "Royals," keeping a stiff upper lip, the Queen ( God bless her! ), and many friends of "the Colonies." As far as I'm concerned, there will always be an England! Hip, hip! Hooray! :D
Harlesburg
25-10-2005, 11:48
I think the british are neat.
Greater Valia
25-10-2005, 11:49
Eh. I've never been to Great Britain (although that will be fixed this Christmas) but you do have some good music (I'm a big fan of Oi!) and beautiful architecture.
Fass
25-10-2005, 11:49
Since I've never been there, I have virtually no opinion on Yorkshire, but as far as England is concerned, it's the home of many, many great things: pints, Big Ben, cricket, and sexy women; the antics of the "Royals," keeping a stiff upper lip, the Queen ( God bless her! ), and many friends of "the Colonies." As far as I'm concerned, there will always be an England! Hip, hip! Hooray! :D

Sod the UK and/or Britain, I suppose?
Kanabia
25-10-2005, 11:49
Isn't that a good thing?

I couldn't care less about them except for the fact that i'm technically one of their subjects.
Gymoor II The Return
25-10-2005, 11:50
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D

I like England and the English. Years ago, some buddies of mine and I were backpacking through Europe. After a long and arduous trip, we returned to London for our flight home. Our flight was early in the morning and we had been out late drinking and dancing. I'm sure we llooked quite haggard. To save time and money, we had planned ahead to catch a little shut-eye on the street while waiting for the flight rather than spend more money on a place to sleep that night. I remember waking up briefly to see a nervous and slightly embarrassed little old man quietly setting wrapped sandwiches by each of our prostrate bodies. For some reason, the image has stuck with me for years. He hurried away before I could thank him.

Oh, and I find the English accent to be very sexy to my uncouth American ears.

I've not been to Yorkshire, so I can't give you an honest opinion, though the Yorkshiremen sketch from Monty Python is hilarious, and I hear the pudding is quite tasty.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 11:50
If they're not Scottish, they're crap! (Said in a Scottish accent.)

That is all.
Fass. Tsk. How many times do I have to tell you that when Swedes try to speak English with a Scottish accent, it all comes out sounding like a Chinese trying to speak Australian? Tsk!
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 11:51
Sod the UK and/or Britain, I suppose?
Bite me, Fass, you dweeb! :D
Kanabia
25-10-2005, 11:53
Fass. Tsk. How many times do I have to tell you that when Swedes try to speak English with a Scottish accent, it all comes out sounding like a Chinese trying to speak Australian? Tsk!

Harro mate. Throw shrimp on barbie and pass me sanga? Today is bonza day.
Fass
25-10-2005, 11:56
I couldn't care less about them except for the fact that i'm technically one of their subjects.

Well, it's worse when the "technically" part is omitted, I'll tell you that! *hates our Royal family, too*
Fass
25-10-2005, 11:59
Fass. Tsk. How many times do I have to tell you that when Swedes try to speak English with a Scottish accent, it all comes out sounding like a Chinese trying to speak Australian? Tsk!

You haven't heard my Scottish accent, nor do you need to, you insolent old git. This is written - I can pretend.

Bite me, Fass

Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you, perv!
Neu Leonstein
25-10-2005, 12:08
Some of your cars are nice. And I love all the different accents and dialects. And the weather, it reminds me of home.
Actually, if I'm lucky, I'll study in London for a year or two in a few years time.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 12:10
You haven't heard my Scottish accent, nor do you need to, you insolent old git. This is written - I can pretend.

Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you, perv!
ROFLMFAO!!!! Good morning, Mr. Fass! It's 7:12 AM here! :D

"Insolent old git!" ROFLMAO!!! Talking on Jolt, about $12.00 a month. Talking on Yahoo Messenger, about $5.00 a month. Trading barbs with a sarcastic gay Swede ... priceless! :D
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 12:18
Harro mate. Throw shrimp on barbie and pass me sanga? Today is bonza day.
Kewl! I'm a bit old to be a "boomer," but I can dig it. :D
Fass
25-10-2005, 12:20
ROFLMFAO!!!! Good morning, Mr. Fass! It's 7:12 AM here! :D

And I just had lunch. Spaghetti bolognese with a nice pineapple salad. *yummy for my tummy* So, good afternoon to you, guv'ner!

"Insolent old git!" ROFLMAO!!!

Sliding into impudence, I see.

Talking on Jolt, about $12.00 a month. Talking on Yahoo Messenger, about $5.00 a month. Trading barbs with a sarcastic gay Swede ... priceless! :D

I think you're being shystered, if you're paying for any of this, but I do agree that I am invaluable.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 12:32
And I just had lunch. Spaghetti bolognese with a nice pineapple salad. *yummy for my tummy* So, good afternoon to you, guv'ner!

Sliding into impudence, I see.

I think you're being shystered, if you're paying for any of this, but I do agree that I am invaluable.
Sounds pretty damned good. Haven't had spaghetti in awhile.

I'm always "impudent" to those who look for it. :D

The only things I pay for to be online are my cable access, my Webhosting fee, and a small email fee for the "@msn.com" address. I was guesstimating how much of the total would be represented by the time I spend on either Jolt or Yahoo Messenger. You may be "invaluable," but we all know you're incorrigible! :p
Pure Metal
25-10-2005, 12:48
"Insolent old git!" ROFLMAO!!! Talking on Jolt, about $12.00 a month. Talking on Yahoo Messenger, about $5.00 a month. Trading barbs with a sarcastic gay Swede ... priceless! :D
lol you just made my sig :p
Boonytopia
25-10-2005, 13:01
I love England, in particular Yorkshire. One of my favourite places in the world is Blakey Ridge, up on top of the North York Moors.

I find that the English tend to be pretty condescending towards us, which pisses me off. Otherwise, the poms are great.
Cahnt
25-10-2005, 13:06
Eh. I've never been to Great Britain (although that will be fixed this Christmas) but you do have some good music (I'm a big fan of Oi!) and beautiful architecture.
I hope the bit about Oi!'s a wind up. Ghastly nonsense.
The Eastern-Coalition
25-10-2005, 13:10
And again, we have the same question as with all the other threads: why are you asking people to 'rate' a nation's population?
Waveny
25-10-2005, 13:10
I love England, in particular Yorkshire. One of my favourite places in the world is Blakey Ridge, up on top of the North York Moors.

I find that the English tend to be pretty condescending towards us, which pisses me off. Otherwise, the poms are great.

Don't get to upset about us being condescending to you, we do it to everybody, it's what were good at.
Boonytopia
25-10-2005, 13:20
Don't get to upset about us being condescending to you, we do it to everybody, it's what were good at.

Yeah, I'm not going to lose too much sleep about it. In the past I was always able to rub it in about the cricket, but now I'm at a loss. :(
Lacadaemon
25-10-2005, 13:24
Yeah, I'm not going to lose too much sleep about it. In the past I was always able to rub it in about the cricket, but now I'm at a loss. :(

That never gets old. Ever.
Boonytopia
25-10-2005, 13:26
That never gets old. Ever.

The wheel turns.
Heron-Marked Warriors
25-10-2005, 13:27
And again, we have the same question as with all the other threads: why are you asking people to 'rate' a nation's population?

We want to know if the rest of the world recognises our greatness. And they do.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:31
Love the accents. Love the history. Love the diversity of food that they have brought in from other countries (their own--eh....). Some of the architecture is neat. Scenery is right cool as well.

Impression that I'm not fond of: Seems gun ownership is a no-no because it's okay to actually get into brawls, and everyone's afraid of the brawl escalating. Just an impression--it may very well be wrong. I've just seen too many arguments against guns in the UK using this example.

Please tell me that you guys don't get into fist fights all the time...or that it's actually okay to get into one in the first place.
Lacadaemon
25-10-2005, 13:33
The wheel turns.

That only matters if you are on the rim.
Heron-Marked Warriors
25-10-2005, 13:35
Please tell me that you guys don't get into fist fights all the time...or that it's actually okay to get into one in the first place.

Yeah, we do. All the time. It's like a national hobby, but more serious.

Like shooting people and marrying your cousins is in the USA, or napping and eating cheese in France.

(I was going to say surrendering for the french, but that one's true)
Lacadaemon
25-10-2005, 13:38
Please tell me that you guys don't get into fist fights all the time...or that it's actually okay to get into one in the first place.

Fist-fighting is an important part of being english.
Liberated Vortigaunts
25-10-2005, 13:38
Please tell me that you guys don't get into fist fights all the time...or that it's actually okay to get into one in the first place.

Stereotyping. Keep doing it and I'll start punching you in the f... hey, what do you know, we do get into them a lot...
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:41
Stereotyping. Keep doing it and I'll start punching you in the f... hey, what do you know, we do get into them a lot...

Good to know that you don't. Then why would people use that as an excuse for limiting firearms? It just doesn't make sense.

Ah well. At least I liked more than I disliked (as if my opinion matters about your country).
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:43
Like shooting people and marrying your cousins is in the USA,


HEY! My cousin's a HOTTIE! :D
Liberated Vortigaunts
25-10-2005, 13:44
Good to know that you don't. Then why would people use that as an excuse for limiting firearms? It just doesn't make sense.

Ah well. At least I liked more than I disliked (as if my opinion matters about your country).

I've never heard that one, to be honest. In Britain it really is safer to try and limit guns, because nobody except criminals bothered with them even before they were banned -- because we prefer to get physical instead :).
Heron-Marked Warriors
25-10-2005, 13:45
HEY! My cousin's a HOTTIE! :D

Good for you. Just don't marry her, that's all.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:49
I've never heard that one, to be honest.


Get into more gun debates. :) I've heard it more times...


In Britain it really is safer to try and limit guns, because nobody except criminals bothered with them even before they were banned -- because we prefer to get physical instead :).

That's not what I've read about your WWII era folks. But then again, you live there.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:55
Good for you. Just don't marry her, that's all.

No problems there. Marrying cousins is icky. :)
Liberated Vortigaunts
25-10-2005, 14:02
Get into more gun debates. :) I've heard it more times...

I can see where it would come from though. Britain does have a problem with 'binge drinking' at the moment. Gangs of people go out and drink until all the pubs and bars close, and get so drunk that they turn into violent, obnoxious hooligans, puking everywhere, falling over in the streets, causing trouble, etc. From what I hear they cost the NHS and the police quite a bit of money. I can't imagine it'd be a good idea to let those guys have guns. But that isn't to say that everybody in Britain goes binge drinking, they're in a minority. They just make enough noise to sound like a majority.

That's not what I've read about your WWII era folks. But then again, you live there.

Well, maybe in WW2 when people were afraid of Germans coming along and giving them Germanic elocution lessons they did. But right up until the total ban on guns was put into practice, you'd be hard pressed to find a home with a gun in it.
New Fenniq
25-10-2005, 14:27
personally, i love myself! :P
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 14:27
I can see where it would come from though. Britain does have a problem with 'binge drinking' at the moment. Gangs of people go out and drink until all the pubs and bars close, and get so drunk that they turn into violent, obnoxious hooligans, puking everywhere, falling over in the streets, causing trouble, etc. From what I hear they cost the NHS and the police quite a bit of money. I can't imagine it'd be a good idea to let those guys have guns. But that isn't to say that everybody in Britain goes binge drinking, they're in a minority. They just make enough noise to sound like a majority.


Sounds like any other "problem" with a nation. A small minority gets a great deal of loud press, and suddenly, it's epidemic. Whee. There are penalties for assault, homicide, and murder already. Let them have the guns. If they do something wrong, put 'em away for life due to the inability to be a responsible adult.


Well, maybe in WW2 when people were afraid of Germans coming along and giving them Germanic elocution lessons they did. But right up until the total ban on guns was put into practice, you'd be hard pressed to find a home with a gun in it.

Then what about those that used them for sporting purposes? Before the lockdown on where you could have the gun? It seems your gun control evolved from several baby-steps through restricting and then an outright ban. I'm just wondering if it came from just following policy, or a genuine desire to remove firearms from the culture? We'll probably never know.

Anyway, enough of the thread-jacking....you still have excellent accents. I seriously go weak in the knees whenever I hear someone like Elizabeth Hurley speak....yowza.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 14:40
lol you just made my sig :p
LMAO!!! Kewl! Glad you liked it! :D
Laenis
25-10-2005, 14:42
British have always had a tendancy to drink a *lot* and get into fights. Even the Romans commented on how native Britons drank wine as if it were ale. As for the fights...they say the reason there is such an undercurrent of violence in British society is because we never had a revolution - lot of pent up frustration in there ;)

Still, there is something almost noble about a fist fight, at least compared with cowardly shootings/knifings.

I agree with others that Yorkshire is probably the best part of Britain.
Draconis Nightcrawlis
25-10-2005, 14:44
Meh, the Vikings were alot worse with drink and violence.
Lewrockwellia
25-10-2005, 15:42
Brits are awesome. I like Brits. :)
Grampus
25-10-2005, 15:51
But right up until the total ban on guns was put into practice, you'd be hard pressed to find a home with a gun in it.

Exceptions being shotguns outside the cities, of course.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 15:58
Exceptions being shotguns outside the cities, of course.

What exactly are the laws regarding firearms ownership? Is it just a total ban in the cities, and just very restrictive laws outside?
Grampus
25-10-2005, 16:05
What exactly are the laws regarding firearms ownership? Is it just a total ban in the cities, and just very restrictive laws outside?

Torturous to say the least: for England & Wales this page pretty much covers it -
http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/
Kreitzmoorland
25-10-2005, 16:06
British people host Jolt. Thus, they are in my good books.
Strathdonia
25-10-2005, 16:18
You relaly have to love the British govenrments constant crusade to rob us of anythign resembleing firearms, the latest thing is instead of simply enforceing the current legislation that bans the carriage or threatened use of even imitation fire arms in public (in theory if you wave a plastic gun at someone the police have every right to shoot you) they aresimply going to ban (or at least heavily restrict the import of) any imitation firearm, so bye bye to the rapidly expanding airsoft community (and much groaning from japan as the market for the brand new and much awaited decent quality L85 replica suddenly disappears).
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 16:23
Torturous to say the least: for England & Wales this page pretty much covers it -
http://www.met.police.uk/firearms-enquiries/

Wow. That's pretty restrictive. Yikes.
Laenis
25-10-2005, 16:25
I had never heard anyone in Britain complain about the ban on firearms until I came here, and then it was more Americans moaning about how we do things over here. It just really doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all, like abortion isn't - there isn't the same gun culture.
Drunk commies deleted
25-10-2005, 16:34
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D
I've never been there, but my impression of you folks from movies, news, and television is that you are decent people, good sense of humor, can make some great music, and make fine soldiers when you have to. Plus I find your Chavs entertaining. Ali G and GLC are fantastic. Keep up the good work.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 16:34
I had never heard anyone in Britain complain about the ban on firearms until I came here, and then it was more Americans moaning about how we do things over here. It just really doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all, like abortion isn't - there isn't the same gun culture.

That's probably why the gun restrictions work in the UK--the people don't want the guns. Or at least a large enough population doesn't care enough about them, to stop the restrictions.

Can we get back to fantasizing about Liz Hurley now? :D
Kanabia
25-10-2005, 16:35
I had never heard anyone in Britain complain about the ban on firearms until I came here, and then it was more Americans moaning about how we do things over here. It just really doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all, like abortion isn't - there isn't the same gun culture.

Yup. Same here.
Nadkor
25-10-2005, 16:37
We're all invading oppressive bastards.

That's the impression you'd get walking through certain parts of fair Belfast.
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 16:44
We're all invading oppressive bastards.

That's the impression you'd get walking through certain parts of fair Belfast.

Oh NEOCONS. Got it. :D
Liberated Vortigaunts
25-10-2005, 16:50
Can we get back to fantasizing about Liz Hurley now? :D

Get back to...? Wait, when did we stop?
Laenis
25-10-2005, 16:55
We're all invading oppressive bastards.

That's the impression you'd get walking through certain parts of fair Belfast.

The Irish used to constantly raid Briton after the Romans withdrew and believed themselves a superiour race because they were never occupied. All we did was turn the tables a little ;)
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 17:01
Get back to...? Wait, when did we stop?

Ooo! Quite right!
Kroisistan
25-10-2005, 17:05
The British? Jolly good lot o'chaps wot wot!

Unfortunately they are leading an unprovoked campaign of mass violence against the meal of breakfast, and all civilized cooking in general. But I can forgive them that. After all, they gave us Monty Python, Fish and Chips, the British Empire, Winston Churchill, too much good music to name, and of course delicious beer. And these Jolt servers we use. They're in the UK too.

So the British - good folk. Why else would I be working to usurp the throne before the next batch of dysfunctional royals gets their hands on it... I think I've said too much. But don't worry, you'll figure it out soon enough... yesss... soon enough...
Aust
26-10-2005, 09:25
As for the gun thing, yes most people don't have guns...BUT I DO! HAHAHAHA!

Actually this is becuase, being a farmer, I have a licence to own a gun, and, strangly, to shoot peoples dogs without warning. You wouldn't want to invade my farm.
Lacadaemon
26-10-2005, 09:32
As for the gun thing, yes most people don't have guns...BUT I DO! HAHAHAHA!

Actually this is becuase, being a farmer, I have a licence to own a gun, and, strangly, to shoot peoples dogs without warning. You wouldn't want to invade my farm.


Tee-hee. "Ee wuz wurryin moy sheep, Ee wuz."

Do you also have countryside alliance posters up all over your farm too?
Aust
26-10-2005, 09:41
Tee-hee. "Ee wuz wurryin moy sheep, Ee wuz."

Do you also have countryside alliance posters up all over your farm too?
No, for farmers where pritty left wing, where against hunting with dogs and guns. But you do need a gun to go out Lamping. I prefer to warn people and then shoot there dogs if there worrying my sheep, you get some idiots, (I once had to save a group of walekrs who ahd climbed over too walls to get into a feild with a load of cows in it, (Non-footpath) and let there dog off-which immidetly attacked the cows. Needless to say they where running like hell when I turned up.) But most are fine.
Boonytopia
26-10-2005, 10:49
Yup. Same here.

Agreed, they're really non-issues here.
ProMonkians
26-10-2005, 13:43
Nice place, went through there on me way to Scotland.

:mad:
*Slap slap slap*

Repeat after me:

England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
...
Lunatic Goofballs
26-10-2005, 13:50
I'm a big fan of soccer hooligans. :)
Laenis
26-10-2005, 13:52
I'm a big fan of soccer hooligans. :)

I'm sure they wouldn't much be fans of you if you referred to football as soccer to their faces ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
26-10-2005, 13:54
I'm sure they wouldn't much be fans of you if you referred to football as soccer to their faces ;)

I'm crazy, not stupid. ;)
The blessed Chris
26-10-2005, 14:26
I'm a big fan of soccer hooligans. :)

They are not bloody soccer hooligans, well, actually, technically the Man United one's are, but thats another issue altogether...:p

Personally, Britain is a thoroughly splendid isle, except possibly Essex, I yet live there, and my word it is awful...:(
Aust
26-10-2005, 15:08
I'm crazy, not stupid. ;)
Whats the diffrence?
Acidosis
26-10-2005, 16:23
Crazy is saying something stupid.
Stupid is saying it to their faces.

I agree, Britain is pretty cool. Apart from Essex, never, ever, ever go to Essex.

I want you to promise me that. Please.

And as for violent culture it's definately there- though there is some degree of moral panic about it- but 70% of A & E visits are related to alcohol, indicating that there is an actual problem.

And amongst young ppl (I include myself) violence is a way of solving problems but fortunately the lack of lethal weapons means that it rarely turns to murder.

They are (were?) even debating a law about making knives less pointy as no one uses that end but kitchen implements are used far more frequently in crimes then any other weapon. Oh and knives carried in public places can't be longer then three inches (about 7 cm) orhave a blade that locks in place if its a flick knife. And yes if it's just really stiff it can still get you arrested.

I had to find that out the hard way.
Conscribed Comradeship
26-10-2005, 16:26
:mad:
*Slap slap slap*

Repeat after me:

England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
England is NOT Britain,
Scotland is part of Britain,
...

I think he meant he went through Yorkshire on his way to Scotland. In fact I'm almost certain of it. Read the preface to the post.
Conscribed Comradeship
26-10-2005, 16:27
British have always had a tendancy to drink a *lot* and get into fights. Even the Romans commented on how native Britons drank wine as if it were ale. As for the fights...they say the reason there is such an undercurrent of violence in British society is because we never had a revolution - lot of pent up frustration in there ;)

Still, there is something almost noble about a fist fight, at least compared with cowardly shootings/knifings.

I agree with others that Yorkshire is probably the best part of Britain.

WE DID HAVE A REVOLUTION!!! Charles I must be turning in his grave.
Sierra BTHP
26-10-2005, 16:28
I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D

Isn't that "The Third World"?

Oh, and is this your site? http://www.americans-on-britain.com/
Strathdonia
26-10-2005, 16:38
WE DID HAVE A REVOLUTION!!! Charles I must be turning in his grave.

Well it was more a civil war.
A revolution is just too continetal for the english, a civil war is just so much classier and entirely in keeping with traidtion, it even involved some scots and irish bashing!
Liberated Vortigaunts
26-10-2005, 16:51
Whats the diffrence?

Well, he's good at mathematics, but he uses a fluorescent yellow pen to write down his equations. And his calculator is nuclear-powered.
Aust
26-10-2005, 16:59
Isn't that "The Third World"?

Oh, and is this your site? http://www.americans-on-britain.com/
You cheeky b****** and no it isn't.
Sierra BTHP
26-10-2005, 17:21
You cheeky b****** and no it isn't.
I distinctly remember the movie, "The Meaning of Life".

They showed a picture of Yorkshire, and the title faded in, "The Third World". ;)
Usono
26-10-2005, 17:24
Well it was more a civil war.
A revolution is just too continetal for the english, a civil war is just so much classier and entirely in keeping with traidtion, it even involved some scots and irish bashing!

What about the Glorious Revolution?
Laenis
26-10-2005, 17:27
What about the Glorious Revolution?

I don't count either the civil war or us inviting someone over to rule as revolutions really.
Usono
26-10-2005, 17:30
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I don't think about "the British" because it is an artificial construct intended to subsume all subjects under a bogus Anglified identity.

I like a lot of English folks fine; their government tends to be crap, with a hideous record with regards to the rest of the Isles. And don't get me started on New "Labour"!

I love a Manxwoman, and like the rest of their folks a lot.

I'm good with the Scots when not used as occupying forces in Ireland.

I like all the Cornish I know.

I've always liked the Welsh, as long as I'm not expected to pronounce their longer words or conjugate their verbs, etc.

And of course Norn Irn is just part of Ireland, and thus irrelevant to this discussion. There is a reason for the orange stripe in the tricolour; and many a Prod was part of the nationalist movement and the government of the Republic, from its founding and before.
Laenis
26-10-2005, 17:38
I don't think about "the British" because it is an artificial construct intended to subsume all subjects under a bogus Anglified identity.


I never understood the whole "England is the only real British country!" thing. I mean, Britain as a whole has accomplished so much whilst working together and has so much to be proud of - why would you want to dissassociate yourself by saying "Oh i'm not British, i'm Scottish" (It's usually Scottish that say this as they have the most anti English racists.)?
Aust
27-10-2005, 10:06
I distinctly remember the movie, "The Meaning of Life".

They showed a picture of Yorkshire, and the title faded in, "The Third World". ;)
But thtas Python-it's diffrent.
HandToHandGunFights
27-10-2005, 10:23
ah the hun where would we Irish be without them?, those tea suppin, worchester sauce splashing, big ben having, cricket playing, crumpet munching, Blackpool holidaying, knotted hankey wearing, crumpet munching, three mispronouncing, world colonising, french hating, donkey riding, tiger stabbing, wankers.
well we'd probably have six more counties and speak or own language but then again we'd probably still be in the dark ages and we'd have to speak Irish which is mad difficult to learn(13 years of school and i'm only barely able to say i'm going to the shops)
also you have to respect a country thats invented so many sports and is crap at pretty much all of them:sniper:
Kudlastan
27-10-2005, 16:02
They are not bloody soccer hooligans, well, actually, technically the Man United one's are, but thats another issue altogether...:p

Personally, Britain is a thoroughly splendid isle, except possibly Essex, I yet live there, and my word it is awful...:(

OI!!!!

Essex is the best! I'm from Southend and the overall character of essex people is a great one, cheeky, fun loving and full of attitude! There are lots of worse places to live in britain (e.g. barnsley, bradford, east london or most of greater manchester).

The fact that i've escaped to uni in leeds has nothing to do with my love for essex.... i just need a break!
Kudlastan
27-10-2005, 16:06
also you have to respect a country thats invented so many sports and is crap at pretty much all of them:sniper:

erm.... who DIDN'T qualify for the world cup?

oh yeah... ireland!
Aust
27-10-2005, 16:27
OI!!!!

Essex is the best! I'm from Southend and the overall character of essex people is a great one, cheeky, fun loving and full of attitude! There are lots of worse places to live in britain (e.g. barnsley, bradford, east london or most of greater manchester).

The fact that i've escaped to uni in leeds has nothing to do with my love for essex.... i just need a break!
Agreed about Bradford.
Grampus
27-10-2005, 16:59
I don't count either the civil war or us inviting someone over to rule as revolutions really.

Regicide and placing a commoner as head of state doesn't count as a revolution to you? What does?
Dehny
27-10-2005, 17:04
Britain is an outdated idea,
HandToHandGunFights
27-10-2005, 17:09
erm.... who DIDN'T qualify for the world cup?

oh yeah... ireland!

yeah well that sucks but the fact is we didnt invent the sport you guys did........and your still crap
Europaland
27-10-2005, 17:14
If they're not Scottish, they're crap! (Said in a Scottish accent.)

That is all.
Absolutely.
Uncle Vulgarian
27-10-2005, 17:17
I think we rock. Never been to Yorkshire but I will if you can give me good reason.
Uncle Vulgarian
27-10-2005, 17:35
I love a Manxwoman, and like the rest of their folks a lot.

Damn right. The Manx (myself being one, although not female) kick buttock.
Laenis
27-10-2005, 17:59
Absolutely.

Sucks when your country is so insignificant that all it can do to define itself is to moan about how much you hate a bordering country, eh? ;)

Not that this applies to all Scots - my dad is half Scottish and is disgusted by the petty, bitter anti Englishness from some people north of the border. Sure, it's all banter, till you find out a third of all English living in Scotland have suffered severe racial abuse. Seems a bit backward to me, but whatever.
Nadkor
27-10-2005, 18:01
erm.... who DIDN'T qualify for the world cup?

And who got beaten by Northern Ireland?

...


;)
Laenis
27-10-2005, 18:04
Regicide and placing a commoner as head of state doesn't count as a revolution to you? What does?

*Sighs* Fine, i'll narrow the definition of what I meant when I said Britain hasn't had a revolution - it hasn't had a successful mass armed uprising against the elites as well as head of state in the name of freedom from some kind of perceived opression by said elites and head of state, such as the French or Russian revolution.
Nadkor
27-10-2005, 18:06
*Sighs* Fine, i'll narrow the definition of what I meant when I said Britain hasn't had a revolution - it hasn't had a successful mass armed uprising against the elites as well as head of state in the name of freedom from some kind of perceived opression by said elites and head of state, such as the French or Russian revolution.
Er...the Civil War was a succesful armed uprising against the elites and the Head of State in the name of freedom from some kind of perceived opression by said elites and Head of State.
Laenis
27-10-2005, 18:11
Er...the Civil War was a succesful armed uprising against the elites and the Head of State in the name of freedom from some kind of perceived opression by said elites and Head of State.

I meant to include mention that it was done in the name of percieved opression of the working classes, but must have forgotten it when I was trying to formulate the definition. The civil war was primarily a power struggle between different kinds of elite - it wasn't the opressed masses versus those with power.

Anyway, you know what I meant - the working classes have never risen up and thus there is supposedly a lot of supressed anger in the British, because deep down they know they are being exploited and so on. That's what I read anyway in a book about why Britain is so violent.
Aust
27-10-2005, 18:13
I meant to include mention that it was done in the name of percieved opression of the working classes, but must have forgotten it when I was trying to formulate the definition.

Anyway, you know what I meant - the working classes have never risen up and thus there is supposedly a lot of supressed anger in the British, because deep down they know they are being exploited and so on. That's what I read anyway in a book about why Britain is so violent.
if you say so, still we've never had a school shooting.
Laenis
27-10-2005, 18:16
if you say so, still we've never had a school shooting.

*Shrugs* I just thought it was an interesting possible explanation - don't really think it's true.

Besides, it only explains the violence of the working class - it doesn't explain why the British upper classes were also notorious for getting into duels all the time.
Zero Six Three
27-10-2005, 18:21
*Shrugs* I just thought it was an interesting possible explanation - don't really think it's true.

Besides, it only explains the violence of the working class - it doesn't explain why the British upper classes were also notorious for getting into duels all the time.
Are you questioning the British upper classes honour, Sir?
Laenis
27-10-2005, 18:23
Are you questioning the British upper classes honour, Sir?

*Takes a glass of wine and tosses it in Zero's face*
The blessed Chris
27-10-2005, 20:15
*Takes a glass of wine and tosses it in Zero's face*

Why you unspeakable cad, I demand satisfaction:p
Antikythera
27-10-2005, 20:17
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D
the british are just a lot of crazy loons, but in a good way:D :D
where would the rest of the world be with out your dry humor?
Dehny
27-10-2005, 20:21
The Irish used to constantly raid Briton after the Romans withdrew and believed themselves a superiour race because they were never occupied. All we did was turn the tables a little ;)


only the english and welsch ever submitted to the romans, the clever celts, i.e scotland and ireland(not welsch their just sheep who can talk) stopped them hell they had to build a wall to keep the scots in scotland
The blessed Chris
27-10-2005, 20:23
OI!!!!

Essex is the best! I'm from Southend and the overall character of essex people is a great one, cheeky, fun loving and full of attitude! There are lots of worse places to live in britain (e.g. barnsley, bradford, east london or most of greater manchester).

The fact that i've escaped to uni in leeds has nothing to do with my love for essex.... i just need a break!

I'm from colchester, lets compare notes:p

Personally, Surrey, Kent and other, less Londonesque counties are more my taste, less extravertial, insecure twats pretending to be from the ghetto, more emo kids
Nadkor
27-10-2005, 20:24
only the english and welsch ever submitted to the romans, the clever celts, i.e scotland and ireland(not welsch their just sheep who can talk) stopped them hell they had to build a wall to keep the scots in scotland
No, they had to build a wall to keep the Picts in what is now Scotland.

The Scots were happy living in Ireland and raiding what is now the Scottish coast.
Kudlastan
27-10-2005, 20:41
I'm from colchester, lets compare notes:p

Personally, Surrey, Kent and other, less Londonesque counties are more my taste, less extravertial, insecure twats pretending to be from the ghetto, more emo kids


ugh... really not into the whole emo thing! 2 of my housemates are... i've heard enough of the music and been to enough of the emo/punk/metal nights in leeds not to like that sort of music... can't dance to it! I mainly like indie myself, very much liking the current wave of british bands doing the rounds! And kent's nearly as bad as essex really for that sort of thing.... Chatham is apparently where the word 'chav' originated! Haven't really been to colchester much... only to colchester castle as a kid... how delightful!
The blessed Chris
27-10-2005, 20:45
ugh... really not into the whole emo thing! 2 of my housemates are... i've heard enough of the music and been to enough of the emo/punk/metal nights in leeds not to like that sort of music... can't dance to it! I mainly like indie myself, very much liking the current wave of british bands doing the rounds! And kent's nearly as bad as essex really for that sort of thing.... Chatham is apparently where the word 'chav' originated! Haven't really been to colchester much... only to colchester castle as a kid... how delightful!

Not really, I used to work there, it sucks after the 1200th time of asking.:p


And lay off emo kids, we really are alright. In a depressed, insular sort of way, that is
Antikythera
27-10-2005, 20:49
And lay off emo kids, we really are alright. In a depressed, insular sort of way, that is

lol emo kids are the best.....out of all the cliques that are arround today you guys get props for dressing the best
Grampus
28-10-2005, 01:27
Sure, it's all banter, till you find out a third of all English living in Scotland have suffered severe racial abuse.

Since when were the English a race?
Grampus
28-10-2005, 01:29
No, they had to build a wall to keep the Picts in what is now Scotland.

The Scots were happy living in Ireland and raiding what is now the Scottish coast.

...whilst trading with the Romans rather than confronting them with arms.
New Watenho
28-10-2005, 01:30
I'm from colchester, lets compare notes:p

Personally, Surrey, Kent and other, less Londonesque counties are more my taste, less extravertial, insecure twats pretending to be from the ghetto, more emo kids

Ahahahahah, you think because people are from cities they have ghetto complexes, and we think that because you're from small towns and/or the countryside you shag cows, or sheep if you're Welsh. And so stand-up comedians have something to talk about: so it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, comedy without end.
Uber Awesome
28-10-2005, 01:31
only the english and welsch ever submitted to the romans, the clever celts, i.e scotland and ireland(not welsch their just sheep who can talk) stopped them hell they had to build a wall to keep the scots in scotland

Actually, the English came after the romans (as the anglo-saxons). The people who used to live in England were celts (and were driven to wales I think).
Rougu
28-10-2005, 01:33
Since when were the English a race?


the word racism is used not only to desribe discrimination agasint races or geographical groups, but also different nationalities. the english are a nationality.
Quesanalia
28-10-2005, 03:44
I don't know where those places are that you people are talking about, but all of that talk makes me want to go to the Isles even more.

As an American thinking of traveling to England, where and when should I go? I'll get to Scotland and Ireland later, but I'll definately go.

As for the fighting thing, I like the fact that people can just punch eachother a bit and not have to go to the extreme of killing each other. I think it would be fun or at least exciting to get in to a good ol' scrap and not have to worry about someone shanking you from behind.
Aust
28-10-2005, 09:52
Since when were the English a race?
Since when where the scots race? Or the Irish? Or the welsh?
Strathdonia
28-10-2005, 10:11
if you say so, still we've never had a school shooting.

Not strictly true...

We have had two mass shootings within schools, but neither were comitted by pupils.

Personally i put that down to the fact that our schools aren't as stupidly competitive or as filled with artificial social straitions. Of course it looks as though thigns are heading that way now...
about 8-10 years ago we had neds/bams and everyone else (well in glasgow anyway, neds basically being chavs: kappa siuts etc), then we had the odd "Skater" then the "mini moshers" appeared and now we have these "emo" people (what ever they are, it seems to be mini moshers but with silly shirts and ties instead of metalica hoodies).
Lacadaemon
28-10-2005, 10:11
As for the fighting thing, I like the fact that people can just punch eachother a bit and not have to go to the extreme of killing each other. I think it would be fun or at least exciting to get in to a good ol' scrap and not have to worry about someone shanking you from behind.

The Bigg Market Newcastle Upon Tyne, is usually good for agro of a friday night. Failing that, Whitley Bay - specifically the Compass - during the summer is a place where you almost certainly can get into some altercation. Just go to either location and push someones pint over. A Fracas will ensue. Or, alternatively, loiter in the streets in either aformentioned location drinking tenants super from a can and telling people: "your lass is a reet slag." (Also, I have found, a fool-proof method).

Keep in mind two things though:

1. It is not like the occasional "saloon" fights you watch on TV. There is in fact a lot of blood, and people will kick you when you are on the ground.

2. At some point, pint glasses will be smashed into someone face. Make sure it isn't yours.

Otherwise, indulge.
Mariehamn
28-10-2005, 10:49
-snip-
Sounds like my father's stories of good old American bar-fights back in the sixties! Except without chairs and pipe wrenches being used! :D
Verozan
28-10-2005, 11:02
I only know a few people who are actually British, and I have no problems with them. They seem pretty cool to me, which is hard to be because I'm an asshole.
The blessed Chris
28-10-2005, 15:57
Sounds like my father's stories of good old American bar-fights back in the sixties! Except without chairs and pipe wrenches being used! :D

English fights are fun, soooo much fun.:)
Ravenshrike
28-10-2005, 17:29
marrying your cousins is in the USA
Given that we picked up that bad habit from european royalty, I fail to see how it counts.
Aust
29-10-2005, 10:31
Given that we picked up that bad habit from european royalty, I fail to see how it counts.
:D
New Fenniq
29-10-2005, 11:48
British have always had a tendancy to drink a *lot* and get into fights. Even the Romans commented on how native Britons drank wine as if it were ale. As for the fights...they say the reason there is such an undercurrent of violence in British society is because we never had a revolution - lot of pent up frustration in there ;)

Still, there is something almost noble about a fist fight, at least compared with cowardly shootings/knifings.

I agree with others that Yorkshire is probably the best part of Britain.

us brits have had a history of alcohol coz the water was too unsafe to drink in the old days. the alcohol in beer killed off the evil germs
AlanBstard
29-10-2005, 14:59
us brits have had a history of alcohol coz the water was too unsafe to drink in the old days. the alcohol in beer killed off the evil germs

its true europeans (and by extension White Americans) have a high tolerance for alchol compared with Chinese or Japanese. While in india, Japan and china they made tea to sterilise water, in europe we brewed beer and have evolved additional enzymes to cope. I'm not quite sure how black people factor in all this but its still a good story.
Cheeseita
29-10-2005, 17:06
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D

Britain rules!!!!!

In my opinion the best part of Briatin has got to be the Snowdonia national park in north Wales. I'd strongmy recomend it to anyone who likes mmountains and amazing scenery
Aust
29-10-2005, 22:41
us brits have had a history of alcohol coz the water was too unsafe to drink in the old days. the alcohol in beer killed off the evil germs
:D Is that true?
Southern Balkans
29-10-2005, 23:00
BRITAIN RULES!!!
Britain is the collest country in the world! But i am British. Yorkshires good but gets quite boring depending where you are.

By the way whoever said we havnt had a revolution we have actually had 1 and a half, me not being sure if the Civil war counts but the glorious Revoultion was in which we removed (i think) JAmes II and replaced him with William of ORange (whom was Dutch)
Laenis
29-10-2005, 23:52
People also used to drink a lot for the simple reason that it was a type of substinence. There's a lot of calories in beer, and it used to make up a large part of peoples daily intake. Even today some people have being living for ages living on pints of bitter with very little food.
Dehny
30-10-2005, 00:24
us brits have had a history of alcohol coz the water was too unsafe to drink in the old days. the alcohol in beer killed off the evil germs


it was actually the brewing process itself that killed off the germs, but its still technically right
Uber Awesome
30-10-2005, 00:25
The United Kingdom contains many of the world's leading universities, including the University of Cambridge, University of Oxford, University of Edinburgh and the University of London (which incorporates, amongst others, London School of Economics, Imperial College and University College London), and has produced many great scientists and engineers including Sir Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin and Isambard Kingdom Brunel; the nation is credited with many inventions including locomotive, vaccination, television, and both the internal combustion and the jet engine.

Playwright William Shakespeare is arguably the most famous writer in world history; other well-known writers include the Brontë sisters (Charlotte, Emily, and Anne), Jane Austen, J. K. Rowling, J. R. R. Tolkien and Charles Dickens. Important poets include Lord Byron, Robert Burns, Lord Tennyson and William Blake. (see main article: British literature).

Notable composers from the United Kingdom have included William Byrd, John Taverner, Thomas Tallis, and Henry Purcell from the 16th and early 17th centuries, and, more recently, Sir Edward Elgar, Sir Arthur Sullivan (most famous for working with librettist Sir W. S. Gilbert), Ralph Vaughan Williams and Benjamin Britten in the 19th and 20th.

The UK was, with the US, one of the two main contributors in the development of rock and roll, and the UK has provided some of the most famous pop stars, including the Beatles, Sir Cliff Richard, Queen, the Rolling Stones, The Who and many others. The UK was at the forefront of punk rock music in the 1970s with bands such as the Sex Pistols and The Clash, and the subsequent rebirth of heavy metal with bands such as Motörhead and Iron Maiden. In mid to late '90s, the Britpop phenomenon has seen bands such as Oasis, Blur, Radiohead and Coldplay gain international fame. The UK is also at the forefront of electronica, with British artists such as Aphex Twin, Talvin Singh, Nitin Sawhney and Lamb at the cutting edge. The United Kingdom was also associated with music from the Caribbean, with a large number of Jamaicans and other Caribbean nationals being present in the UK. (see main article: Music of the United Kingdom).

A great number of major sports originated in the United Kingdom, including football, golf, cricket and boxing....


That says a bit.
Grampus
30-10-2005, 02:35
Since when where the scots race? Or the Irish? Or the welsh?

Did I claim they were?
Celtlund
30-10-2005, 02:59
Seeing as we keep having threads on what people think of the USA I thouhgt it was high time we found out what evryone thought of Britian. This is open to british, Americans, chinise, Plutonians, Atlantians and everyone else.

I'd be perticually interested in what you thought of Yorkshire. :D

I've visited the UK several times and find the British to be very nice and friendly people. They have great beer but with the exception of fish and chips, I find their food a little less than very good. Their country is beautiful but the weather can be quite nasty at times.
Aust
30-10-2005, 09:54
I've visited the UK several times and find the British to be very nice and friendly people. They have great beer but with the exception of fish and chips, I find their food a little less than very good. Their country is beautiful but the weather can be quite nasty at times.
You don't want to know about the weather we've been having latly.
Gataway_Driver
30-10-2005, 12:07
Nothing wrong with us Brits. As long as you have money we will be nice