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When choosing a career...

Jello Biafra
25-10-2005, 07:11
When choosing a career, which is more important to you? Order these in the order that they are most important to you, from most to least important. If you can think of something that I forgot, feel free to add it.

Job security.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Potaria
25-10-2005, 08:02
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.

These are the only ones that are important to me, in order from most to least (top to bottom). Of course, since I aspire to be a musician/artist, the others really don't apply, and "coworkers" means other musicians and artists (naturally).
Murderous maniacs
25-10-2005, 08:43
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Job security.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Chellis
25-10-2005, 08:44
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.

There isn't really anything I want to do, and I don't quite care about how others look at me(I mean, I do, but job wise? Meh). Thats why I'm going to major in buisness... I have the smarts to make the cash...
Neu Leonstein
25-10-2005, 08:46
1. Doing what you enjoy doing.
2. Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
3. Doing what you do well.
4. Doing something that is useful to others.
5. Job security.
6. Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
7. Getting the praise of your coworkers.
8. Making enough to live comfortably.

Yeah, I'm a materialist prick who likes buying stuff with money...:(
ORamaland
25-10-2005, 09:03
Making enough to live comfortably.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich. (Prefered of course, but not a necessity)
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Job security.
Doing what you do well.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Doing something that is useful to others.

I don't enjoy buying nice things...I enjoy financial security.
Pure Metal
25-10-2005, 09:39
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Doing what you do well.
Job security.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.

edited: i'd like to live a bit more comfortably than that :)
Cabra West
25-10-2005, 09:40
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Job security.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.

I don't expect praise from my co-workers, although I appreciate it if I get it. But one other important part would be getting appreciation from management and/or customers and users, depending on where I work.
Pure Metal
25-10-2005, 10:22
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Compulsive Depression
25-10-2005, 10:39
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.

I can't decide which order those two should go in. The others don't matter much.

A job is just a semi-necessary evil to keep your belly full of pies, but it's preferable to enjoy it. Of course, what you want has little bearing on what you get.
Bryce Crusader States
25-10-2005, 10:46
Job security.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Pure Metal
25-10-2005, 11:06
would anyone else replace "doing what you enjoy doing" with "doing something that means something to you"?
Safalra
25-10-2005, 11:09
would anyone else replace "doing what you enjoy doing" with "doing something that means something to you"?
Yes. Furthermore, 'doing something that is useful to others' should be replaced with 'making the world better in some small way'.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 11:15
Doing something which challenges you, makes you grow and stretch.
Doing something which demands more than you thought you were capable of giving.
Cabra West
25-10-2005, 11:17
Doing something which demands more than you thought you were capable of giving.

Now, THAT would largely depend on the pay... for what I get at the moment, I wouldn't consider that.
Eutrusca
25-10-2005, 11:22
Now, THAT would largely depend on the pay... for what I get at the moment, I wouldn't consider that.
How so? I meant it to indicate a job which demanded more from you in areas like creativity, sheer volume of work, having to learn quickly, physically demanding, etc. What I had in mind when I wrote it was having been assigned a counterinsurgency team commander's job when I was in the Army. Long, long hours, intensely physically demanding, required every iota of creativity I could dredge up, dangerous, intense, but very, very gratifying.
Harlesburg
25-10-2005, 11:28
Job security.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
PasturePastry
25-10-2005, 12:48
How so? I meant it to indicate a job which demanded more from you in areas like creativity, sheer volume of work, having to learn quickly, physically demanding, etc. What I had in mind when I wrote it was having been assigned a counterinsurgency team commander's job when I was in the Army. Long, long hours, intensely physically demanding, required every iota of creativity I could dredge up, dangerous, intense, but very, very gratifying.
Yeah, I know what you mean there. I'm having to deal with an FDA audit right now and it's definitely something that is more demanding than I have had to experience before. I'm sure by the time it's all over, I'm going to be a better, more capable person, but in the meantime...
Kanabia
25-10-2005, 12:51
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Job security.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Call to power
25-10-2005, 13:22
Doing what you enjoy doing
Doing what you do well
Doing something that is useful to others
Job security
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich
Making enough to live comfortably
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc
Getting the praise of your co-workers

I think exiting/adventures work should be on there
Zaxon
25-10-2005, 13:25
When choosing a career, which is more important to you? Order these in the order that they are most important to you, from most to least important. If you can think of something that I forgot, feel free to add it.

Job security.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.

1. Doing what you enjoy doing
2. Making enough to live comfortably
3. Miscellaneous perks: especially health insurance
4. Job security
5. Doing what you do well
6. Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich
7. Doing something that is useful to others
8. Getting praise of coworkers
Freeunitedstates
26-10-2005, 02:00
Never to be outdone in the Way.
To be useful to my Master.
To be filial to my parents.
To manifest Great Compassion, and work for the sake of Man.
Bottle
26-10-2005, 02:03
When choosing a career, which is more important to you? Order these in the order that they are most important to you, from most to least important. If you can think of something that I forgot, feel free to add it.

Job security.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
I appear to rank "doing something that kicks my butt" ahead of all other factors. I consistently pick lifepaths that force me to excell in areas where I have little to no innate skill. I have no clue why that would be.

After that, I guess I'd rank it:
Doing what I enjoy doing
Job security
Doing something that is useful to others
Making enough to live comfortably
Miscelaneous perks (I likes my health care, yes I does)
Getting the praise of my coworkers
Getting rich
Sierra BTHP
26-10-2005, 02:08
I would rather be rich than stupid.
Neo Kervoskia
26-10-2005, 02:11
Do whatever makes me filthy stinking rich.
Krakozha
26-10-2005, 02:12
Probably:

Doing what you enjoy doing.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc
Doing something that is useful to others.
Job security.
Doing what you do well.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.

I'm an experimental physicist, I work as a research aide for a group of researchers working on controlling epileptic seizures in rats, with the idea of transferring this technology to humans eventually. It's temporary, doesn't pay a huge amount, and I love it!
Huntaer
26-10-2005, 02:14
Me:

Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.

That's fairly much it.
Dakini
26-10-2005, 02:20
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.

Yeah, that's all that matters to me right now.
Harlesburg
26-10-2005, 05:49
Job Security is Mighty important.
Santa Barbara
26-10-2005, 06:21
Everyone always chooses "doing something you enjoy doing."

Not me!

For me its just the opposite. I mean, it is work after all. Work shouldnt be enjoyed. In fact I prefer to do something I absolutely hate doing, that way it incourages me to do a poor enough job that no one gives me more work to do, and to rush through my work in the eagerness to stop working. Otherwise I might be trapped all day just because I ENJOY it. Ugh!

So for me, it's "doing something I don't enjoy doing."

And secondarily, making enough to live 'comfortably'. But again, not *too* comfortably. That leads to complacence...
Jello Biafra
26-10-2005, 13:54
I really like the responses I've been getting, thanks.

Everyone always chooses "doing something you enjoy doing."

Not me!

For me its just the opposite. I mean, it is work after all. Work shouldnt be enjoyed. In fact I prefer to do something I absolutely hate doing, that way it incourages me to do a poor enough job that no one gives me more work to do, and to rush through my work in the eagerness to stop working. Otherwise I might be trapped all day just because I ENJOY it. Ugh!

So for me, it's "doing something I don't enjoy doing."

And secondarily, making enough to live 'comfortably'. But again, not *too* comfortably. That leads to complacence...Lol. Determined to suffer, eh?
Myrmidonisia
26-10-2005, 15:56
If I was going to offer advice, I'd start by saying that free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. Use it wisely.

First, figure out what you can do. Trying to become a doctor if you can't stand the idea of cutting, stabbing, or bleeding. Come to think of it, that pretty much eliminates soldiering, too.

Next, figure out if that matches with something you could get paid for. Picking your nose is fun, but not real lucrative. Not unless you can land a gig with SNL.

Last, try to be self-sufficient in the sense that you don't need to be employed by someone. That may not be possible at first. You may need the kind of experience that you can only get from an employer, but your goal should be to wean yourself from those weekly paychecks that someone else signs.
Upper Botswavia
26-10-2005, 16:32
1. Doing what I love.

None of the rest really applies. I work in theatre, so job security is a non-issue, being rich and having perks is a laugh, and while having my job be useful to others is certainly a concern for ME, most of the rest of the world doesn't get it (we have to have art, people, or else we are just savages in suits!). I do what I do well, but that would be true of any job I did, that is just my work ethic, and, since I am a stage manager, and there are never any awards of any kind for me (a teeny tiny personal gripe, everyone else in theatre from the designers to the producers to the writers to... gets a Tony award, but not the stage managers) I have learned that worrying about praise from coworkers is of very little importance, so I don't let it bother me.

But, on the other hand, what is the point of doing anything if you don't enjoy what you are doing? Why get into a career you don't like? Why choose a life if you are going to be miserable? So as far as I am concerned, the one item on my list is the only one that really matters to me.
Jello Biafra
27-10-2005, 11:33
If I was going to offer advice, I'd start by saying that free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. Use it wisely.

First, figure out what you can do. Trying to become a doctor if you can't stand the idea of cutting, stabbing, or bleeding. Come to think of it, that pretty much eliminates soldiering, too.

Next, figure out if that matches with something you could get paid for. Picking your nose is fun, but not real lucrative. Not unless you can land a gig with SNL.

Last, try to be self-sufficient in the sense that you don't need to be employed by someone. That may not be possible at first. You may need the kind of experience that you can only get from an employer, but your goal should be to wean yourself from those weekly paychecks that someone else signs.Actually, I wasn't looking for advice, but it is nonetheless appreciated. Thank you. Have any more advice?
Gift-of-god
03-11-2005, 12:42
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Job security.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Doing what you do well.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Blu-tac
27-12-2005, 23:04
Making enough to live comfortably.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Job security.
Doing what you do well.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing something that is useful to others.

...............

Getting the praise of your coworkers.

I really honestly couldn't care what co-workers though of me...
Kinda Sensible people
27-12-2005, 23:22
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Job security.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live comfortably
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Freeunitedstates
28-12-2005, 02:39
Your daily moment of Bushido:
When Sagara Kyuma was requested to become a chief retainer, he said to Nabeshima Heizaemon, "For some reason I have been increasingly well treated by the master and now have been requested to take a high rank. Not having a good retainer, my affairs are liable to be in disorder. It is my request that you give me your retainer, Takase Jibusaemon." Heizaemon listened to him and consented, saying, "It is very gratifying that you have kept an eye on my retainer. I will therefore do as you ask."
But when he related this to Jibusaemon, the latter said, "I should reply directly to Master Kyuma." He then went to Kyuma's place and talked with him. Jibusaemon told Kyuma, "I know it is a great honor that you have thought well of me and have made this request. But a retainer is a person who cannot change masters. As you are of high rank, if I were to become your retainer my life would be replete, but that repleteness would be a vexation to me. Because Heizaemon is of low rank and is hard pressed, we live by eating cheap rice gruel. Yet that is sweet enough. Please think this over.''
Kyuma was extremely impressed.
-Hagakure, Yamamoto Tsunetomo
The Cat-Tribe
28-12-2005, 02:43
Doing what you enjoy doing.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Doing what you do well.
Job security.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Gun toting civilians
28-12-2005, 02:47
How so? I meant it to indicate a job which demanded more from you in areas like creativity, sheer volume of work, having to learn quickly, physically demanding, etc. What I had in mind when I wrote it was having been assigned a counterinsurgency team commander's job when I was in the Army. Long, long hours, intensely physically demanding, required every iota of creativity I could dredge up, dangerous, intense, but very, very gratifying.

Something that I would definatly do, even if it did mean a huge cut in pay.
Eruantalon
28-12-2005, 02:57
At this point I should note that I aspire to become a practising fine artist. Which strikes out "being rich" and "job security" pretty much instantly. But it's what I want to do and I am prepared to sacrifice these.

In order of importance:

Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Doing something that is useful to others.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
Job security.
Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
Naturality
28-12-2005, 07:54
-- Making enough to live comfortably.
-- Job security.
-- Doing what you enjoy doing - Doing what you do well.
-- Doing something that is useful to others.
-- Making enough to live more than comfortably/being rich.
-- Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.
-- Getting the praise of your coworkers.
Baran-Duine
28-12-2005, 09:01
When choosing a career, which is more important to you? Order these in the order that they are most important to you, from most to least important.

Doing what you enjoy doing.
Doing what you do well.
Job security.
Making enough to live comfortably.
Miscellaneous perks: childcare, health insurance, etc.