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i am pro choice and i think abortion is good for the world. it keeps the world from having unwanted kids, they wont suffer shitty lives.

i dont see how abortion is "murder". its only a fetus, not a human... yet.

agreed

The Abortion Song comes to mind.

Second time tonight posting this:
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Personally, I half agree. It should only be allowed in rape or danger to the mother's life. But I agree that it isn't murder. Unless it has the physical potential to sustain life on its own, it's not living. A fetus between 0 and 14 weeks (abortion limit) cannot breath or ingest food or drink on its own. Therefore, it cannot be considered living. One could say here that it is a parasitic life form, yet overlooked is the fact that parasites can live on their own between hosts. So, since a fetus cannot sustain life on its own, it cannot be considered living.

*NOTE: I know this view may sound harsh, but it makes sense when you look at it.

Second time tonight posting this:
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ROFLMAO, love that pic! :D

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

And so what if they are human? If all that seperates a fetus from a human is a few inches of birth canal and a tube, is it really that big a deal?

Second time tonight posting this:
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When you count my thread, it makes three.

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

And so what if they are human? If all that seperates a fetus from a human is a few inches of birth canal and a tube, is it really that big a deal?

Killing the disabled: The Next Logical Step

Hooray, I do love abortion. It always amuses me when an abortionist says that no one actually likes abortion, they just think its a personal choice. Then I come in and straight up horrify them.

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

And so what if they are human? If all that seperates a fetus from a human is a few inches of birth canal and a tube, is it really that big a deal?

But a fetus is human, it is just not a person. The elderly and disabled are people, and deserve rights up until what they can no longer handle.

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

And so what if they are human? If all that seperates a fetus from a human is a few inches of birth canal and a tube, is it really that big a deal?
Oh, I totally agree! And we should do away with old people who are sick even sooner. Just think how much my insurance company could save by not having to pay for my cancer operations and treatment. :rolleyes:

Killing the disabled: the next logical step
I sense a reference to how the Nazis did this during their reign, so pre-emptively invoke Godwin's Law!

I sense a reference to how the Nazis did this during their reign, so pre-emptively invoke Godwin's Law!
Nazi.
There it's done.

I'd like to present an alternative opinion..




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Nazi.
There it's done.
*pulls a Yu-Gi-Oh* :D
"Bwahahahaha you've activated my Trap Card: Godwin's Law! It automatically sends all your cards on the field, in your hand or deck or graveyard out of play! Oh look, you have no cards left, so you lose!"
LOL I can't believe I actually did that

To be fair, he does have a point.

As for old people and disabled people, if they can live on their own, we shouldn't actively kill them to their opposition. However, if they cant support themselves, it would be much more humane to euthanise them(than to let them rot away in a gutter). I am against taxes to them, taxes should be based on what can be used for the most people, or the most people potentially, as well as gain from it. Sustainance isnt as important as advancement.

To be fair, he does have a point.

As for old people and disabled people, if they can live on their own, we shouldn't actively kill them to their opposition. However, if they cant support themselves, it would be much more humane to euthanise them(than to let them rot away in a gutter). I am against taxes to them, taxes should be based on what can be used for the most people, or the most people potentially, as well as gain from it. Sustainance isnt as important as advancement.

I thought you were a socialist.

i am pro choice and i think abortion is good for the world. it keeps the world from having unwanted kids, they wont suffer shitty lives.

i dont see how abortion is "murder". its only a fetus, not a human... yet.
Personally I don't care whether a fetus is a person or not. Wouldn't change my stance one bit: a woman has the right to end her participation in a pregnancy at any time and for any reason. I think abortion is one of the best inventions in human history, though it would be even better if we could reach a level where nobody got abortions because nobody ever experienced an unwanted pregnancy. :)

Personally I don't care whether a fetus is a person or not. Wouldn't change my stance one bit: a woman has the right to end her participation in a pregnancy at any time and for any reason. I think abortion is one of the best inventions in human history, though it would be even better if we could reach a level where nobody got abortions because nobody ever experienced an unwanted pregnancy. :)

Sadly, promiscuity prevents such a society.

I sense a reference to how the Nazis did this during their reign, so pre-emptively invoke Godwin's Law!


You invoked Godwin's Law, therefore you lose and the argument is ended.

Sadly, promiscuity prevents such a society.

Rarely does one see sadly and promiscuity in the same sentance.

As to abortion - sure it's an okay thing. Sure can save a lot of hassles.

Plus, if Christians are busy railing on abortion, we can use it to distract them and slip stuff by them unnoticed. :shiftyeyes:

You invoked Godwin's Law, therefore you lose and the argument is ended.

Aw man...

Sadly, promiscuity prevents such a society.
Sadly imperfect birth control prevents such a society.

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

If they are old enough and in a position to make an informed decision I am absolutly for people being able to make that decision

i am pro choice and i think abortion is good for the world. it keeps the world from having unwanted kids, they wont suffer shitty lives.

i dont see how abortion is "murder". its only a fetus, not a human... yet.

If the life being exterminated is able to thrive outside the womb, there is no reasonable way to justify the classification as anything other than a human being.
That said, I am not against the pro choice agenda in that respect. I find it infinitely more palatable to allow them to kill off like minded mirror images of themselves, than to live under the liberal thumb for the last half of my life. Do you realize that since scoring this great victory in the supeme court that, these folks have killed 45 million of their own future generations! Leave them alone I say! Right to Choose!

If the life being exterminated is able to thrive outside the womb, there is no reasonable way to justify the classification as anything other than a human being.
That said, I am not against the pro choice agenda in that respect. I find it infinitely more palatable to allow them to kill off like minded mirror images of themselves, than to live under the liberal thumb for the last half of my life. Do you realize that since scoring this great victory in the supeme court that, these folks have killed 45 million of their own future generations! Leave them alone I say! Right to Choose!
You assume that all follow in the path of their parents

Not so in my case at least

You assume that all follow in the path of their parents

Not so in my case at least

I should have qualified that. It would be rediculous to assume such a thing, however, it is indisputable that genetics does play a major role in how we develop in our thought processes. I also have seen very strong evidence that parental influence is a major determiner in our belief system, especially later in life, after other mitigating and mind altering influences have subsided. I.E. Hormones, Peer Pressure etc.
Out of 45 million I believe that the lion's share would revert to what they were exposed to early in life. It would make a very interesting study, but I am sure that politicians are already on it somewhere.

I agree also.

But really, why stop there? I think we should just euthanize anyone born disabled, they would just "lead shitty lives" and be a burden on the rest of us. And really old people too, life can literally get shitty in that stage.

And so what if they are human? If all that seperates a fetus from a human is a few inches of birth canal and a tube, is it really that big a deal?


As a disabled American, I sincerely hope you were joking.

Hooray, I do love abortion. It always amuses me when an abortionist says that no one actually likes abortion, they just think its a personal choice. Then I come in and straight up horrify them.Likewise. I tend to describe myself as pro-abortion, rather than pro-choice.

Personally I don't care whether a fetus is a person or not. Wouldn't change my stance one bit: a woman has the right to end her participation in a pregnancy at any time and for any reason. I think abortion is one of the best inventions in human history, though it would be even better if we could reach a level where nobody got abortions because nobody ever experienced an unwanted pregnancy. :)Again, seconded. I don't care at all whether it's a human or not (I don't believe that it is, but regardless); I don't want it in my life and I took all measures I could to ensure it wasn't, so it isn't going to be.

*pulls a Yu-Gi-Oh*
"Bwahahahaha you've activated my Trap Card: Godwin's Law! It automatically sends all your cards on the field, in your hand or deck or graveyard out of play! Oh look, you have no cards left, so you lose!"
LOL I can't believe I actually did that

Neither can we. ;)

i am pro choice and i think abortion is good for the world. it keeps the world from having unwanted kids, they wont suffer shitty lives.

i dont see how abortion is "murder". its only a fetus, not a human... yet.
I agree. Also I don't feel right all day unless I perform three or four abortions every morning.