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I liked the movie. Really connected everyone together well.

But what was the message to the end of the movie? That racial discrimination is pointless and results in unnessecary complications that targets innocents?

Yeah, the weird sex scenes were freaky. James Spader did a good job I thought. Although the part where he has sex with a woman's flesh wound is quease-inducing.

Oh wait....

Yeah, the weird sex scenes were freaky. James Spader did a good job I thought. Although the part where he has sex with a woman's flesh wound is quease-inducing.

Oh wait....
Sadly, I saw that movie as well.

I really liked Crash as well. I watch so many movies that its difficult to remember all the details of this one in specific. But if I remember correctly I think one of the major points was that, like you said, race isnt what matters its the character of the person. Then again, that point is ruined when the least racist, probably most moral character kills the repentant robber because of racial fear. So, perhaps the message is everyone is racist in some way?

I really liked Crash as well. I watch so many movies that its difficult to remember all the details of this one in specific. But if I remember correctly I think one of the major points was that, like you said, race isnt what matters its the character of the person. Then again, that point is ruined when the least racist, probably most moral character kills the repentant robber because of racial fear. So, perhaps the message is everyone is racist in some way?
Maybe it was a message to not be so judgmental of people so quickly?

Then again, it may have tied to when he defended the earlier black man when he was armed and yet the cop never knew. I don't know how, but it might.

Then again, the guy was getting to be a little racist when the black guy was talking about how he liked country and everything. Maybe the bigger cop got into the guy's head when he said "Just wait until you've had this job for a few more years"?

I think the flesh eating part was meant to convey that if we don't get a handle on the racism in this country it will eat us alive. funny, funny.

Ok, now the truth. I found the movie very compelling. My oldest daughter is African-American and my sister was dating a African-American (black person from now on in this post). I watched the movies with my sisters friend and he kept saying how this is a part of our life. Be that as it may, the movie did one of the best jobs in my recent memory of addressing racism from the many angles in which it exists today. I posted about the movie last spring after I saw it.

I think the flesh eating part was meant to convey that if we don't get a handle on the racism in this country it will eat us alive. funny, funny.

Ok, now the truth. I found the movie very compelling. My oldest daughter is African-American and my sister was dating a African-American (black person from now on in this post). I watched the movies with my sisters friend and he kept saying how this is a part of our life. Be that as it may, the movie did one of the best jobs in my recent memory of addressing racism from the many angles in which it exists today. I posted about the movie last spring after I saw it.
Thankfully, I haven't had so much with the racial problems the Persian man had dealt with or the Mexican guy (I'm half Hispanic, half Indian). I don't get to see that much racial problems at all actually.

Hell, I thought racial discrimination was a thing of the past, like 60's and early 70's, until I came to the 7th grade.

Hell, I thought racial discrimination was a thing of the past, like 60's and early 70's, until I came to the 7th grade.
Yeah, I know, it is rather a pity.

I've never watched the movie, so my useful comments come to an end approximately here.

There wasn't so much a message or moral to the movie as it raised questions for discussion, which is why you get the character that you think of as the only un-corupted character ends up killing a minority character unjustly. The thesis for the film, if there is to be one is in Don Cheadle's line that contains the metaphor the movie is named from-
It's the sense of touch. In any real city, you walk, you know? You brush past people, people bump into you. In L.A., nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much, that we crash into each other, just so we can feel something.
In essense, we are so seperated that the that we ram into each other just for touch.

There wasn't so much a message or moral to the movie as it raised questions for discussion, which is why you get the character that you think of as the only un-corupted character ends up killing a minority character unjustly. The thesis for the film, if there is to be one is in Don Cheadle's line that contains the metaphor the movie is named from-

In essense, we are so seperated that the that we ram into each other just for touch.

I think it does have a message, although not a moral. It's basically holding a very very subtle mirror to our own faces regarding our judgement of others. It's not saying that this is either justified or unjustified, after all, if the politican's wife had followed her racist impulse to cross to the other side of the street at the sight of two black guys, they may not have been assaulted, the cop could have spoken up against the behaviour of his superiors but he didn't... we are the ones who judge the characters. We assign the label "racist" to some of them, and consider them evil. And we assign the label "not racist" to others, considering them to be the good guys.

The problem is, we do not do the same in real life. In real life, we ourselves might cross the street when we see two young black males and suddenly feel threatened, and we don't speak up against a superior who asks us to admit an embarrasing personal problem rather than giving the real reason why we don't want to work with a colleague we consider racist. And we would most likely think of ourselves as martyrs for doing so...

I think the message of the movie is, everybody is a racist. We just all have different reasons for it.

Yeah, the weird sex scenes were freaky. James Spader did a good job I thought. Although the part where he has sex with a woman's flesh wound is quease-inducing.

Oh wait....
The crash at the start of the movie was cool though. Have you read the book? As well (if you're into it) read 'The kindness of women' by the same author, J G Ballard. It's his autobiography of his life after WWII up to about 1990. One part explains where he got the idea for 'Crash' from. ie. His own personal experiences, which are nearly as freaky as the ones in the book.

Also read 'Empire of the Sun' while you're at it if you haven't already. Autobiography of his time in Shanghai during WWII.