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Tuvalu - Questions

Eolam
24-10-2005, 01:47
According to the U.S. Department of State, "a 70-member police constabulary... responsible to and effectively controlled by civilian authority", comprises Tuvalu's sole security force.

At what address would one find the Vaiaku police station? At what address does Maatia Toafa reside?
Argesia
24-10-2005, 01:51
According to the U.S. Department of State, "A 70-member police constabulary... responsible to and effectively controlled by civilian authority", comprises Tuvalu's sole security force.

At what address would one find the Vaiaku police station? At what address does Maatia Toafa reside?
They all have the same address: Tuvalu. But you have to write "in Oceania" on the envelope.
Gymoor II The Return
24-10-2005, 02:00
This message has been deleted by Argesia. Reason: double post - due to crap on my computer

You must have really inconsiderate roommates...
Argesia
24-10-2005, 02:02
You must have really inconsiderate roommates...
Hehe. I live alone - I made the crap happen.
Eolam
24-10-2005, 02:04
Are Tuvaluan constables typically equipped with firearms?
Psychotic Mongooses
24-10-2005, 02:09
Probably only to deal with falling coconuts assaulting tourists or drunken sea turtles.... a real handful at mating season....
Eolam
24-10-2005, 03:01
I'm pleasantly surprised no-one, so to speak, has connected the dots.
Amoebistan
24-10-2005, 03:04
I'm pleasantly surprised no-one, so to speak, has connected the dots.
I'll guess you're saying it's because it's not a hierarchical, institutionalized security apparatus?
Corneliu
24-10-2005, 03:07
I'm pleasantly surprised no-one, so to speak, has connected the dots.

That the police have guns?
Eolam
24-10-2005, 03:10
I'll guess you're saying it's because it's not a hierarchical, institutionalized security apparatus?

To which we must respond: William Walker.
Argesia
24-10-2005, 03:39
To which we must respond: William Walker.
But why would you want to take over Tuvalu?
Grampus
24-10-2005, 03:45
But why would you want to take over Tuvalu?

Sealand would be an easier target, surely? Invade Tuvalu and you have the rest of the British Commonwealth breathing down the back of your neck.
Argesia
24-10-2005, 04:33
Sealand would be an easier target, surely? Invade Tuvalu and you have the rest of the British Commonwealth breathing down the back of your neck.
Or pay someone else to do it for you. Is George Speight busy these days? Oh, wait. He's a born-again Christian now...
Pepe Dominguez
24-10-2005, 04:44
Edit: yup, wrong place.
Vaitupu
24-10-2005, 22:34
I claim my namesake when we take over.
Nadkor
24-10-2005, 23:13
Invading, eh?

New Zealand, Australia et al may not be so pleased.
Ariddia
24-10-2005, 23:21
Ooh! Tuvalu! One of my favourite countries.

Indeed, they're members of the Commonwealth, so a whole lot of other nations might not be too happy.

As for Sealand, it's now within British territorial waters (they've been extended since Sealand was founded), so technically you can't invade Sealand without invading Britain.
Nadkor
24-10-2005, 23:28
As for Sealand, it's now within British territorial waters (they've been extended since Sealand was founded), so technically you can't invade Sealand without invading Britain.
Yea, but the land isn't British (according to some old court case which ruled the UK had no jurisdiction over it)...so is an airdrop possible?
Ariddia
24-10-2005, 23:30
Yea, but the land isn't British (according to some old court case which ruled the UK had no jurisdiction over it)...so is an airdrop possible?

Hmm... Wouldn't that mean violating British airspace?
Avalya
24-10-2005, 23:33
Actually, Sealand has already been invaded:

From their website:

Sealand Fights Off Invaders (and Wins a War)

In August of 1978, a number of Dutch men came to Sealand in the employ of a German businessman. They were there to discuss business dealings with Sealand. While Roy was away in Britain, these men kidnapped Prince Roy's son Michael, and took Sealand by force. Soon after, Roy recaptured the island with a group of his own men and held the attackers as prisoners of war.

During the time that he held the prisoners, the Governments of the Netherlands and Germany petitioned for their release. First they asked England to intervene in the matter, but the British government cited their earlier court decision as evidence that they made no claim to the territory of Sealand. Then, in an act of de facto recognition of Sealand's sovereignty, Germany sent a diplomat directly to Sealand to negotiate for the release of their citizen.

Roy first released the Dutch citizens, as the war was over, and the Geneva Convention requires the release of all prisoners. The German was held longer, as he had accepted a Sealand Passport, and therefore was guilty of treason. Prince Roy, who was grateful that the incident had not resulted in a loss of life, and did not want to bloody the reputation of Sealand, eventually released him as well.



Additionally, they have territorial water:

Extension of Territorial Waters

On 1 October, 1987, Britain extended its territorial waters from 3 to 12 nautical miles. The previous day, Prince Roy declared the extension of Sealand's territorial waters to be a like 12 nautical miles, so that right of way from the open sea to Sealand would not be blocked by British claimed waters. No treaty has been signed between Britain and Sealand to divide up the overlapping areas, but a general policy of dividing the area between the two countries down the middle can be assumed. International law does not allow the claim of new land during the extension of sea rights, so Sealand's sovereignty was safely "grandfathered" in. Britain has no more right to Sealand's territory than Sealand has to the territory of the British coastline that falls within its claimed 12 nautical mile arc.

Some nations might have tried to use this as an excuse to try to claim all of the territory of the weaker and not well recognized nation regardless of international law, however, this has not been the case. Britain has made no attempt to take Sealand, and the British government still treats it as an independent State. Prince Roy continues to pay no British National Insurance during the time he resides on Sealand subsequent to a ruling by the British Department of Health and Social Security's solicitor's branch. Also, there was another fire arms incident in 1990 when a ship strayed too near Sealand and warning shots were again fired. The ship's crew made complaints to British authorities and a newspaper article ran detailing the incident. Yet despite Britain's severe prohibition of firearms, British authorities have never pursued the matter. This is a clear indication that Britain's Home Office still considers Sealand to be outside their zone of control.
Grampus
25-10-2005, 01:56
As for Sealand, it's now within British territorial waters (they've been extended since Sealand was founded), so technically you can't invade Sealand without invading Britain.

Not if one is already a British national (or indeed a national of any country within the EEC) - then one is allowed to be in those waters which surround Sealand.