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I knew that having a radical prostatectomy would change my life in ways I could only dimly percieve prior to the operation. What I didn't expect was that it would also be a type of "liberation."

For most of my life, since about the age of 11, I have been driven by testosterone and seminal pressure. It's incredible how much of our behavior as males ( I'll allow females to speak for themselves ) is motivated by the desire to mate. I've always known that the sex drive is the most powerful motivator for humans, but just stop and think about its impact: the clothes we choose, the cars we drive, the places we frequent, the use of body-care products, our speech patterns, our behavior patterns, even the food we eat, are all deeply influenced by this urge to merge.

Now, after having the seminal pressure part of this urge removed, I am beginning to see a definite upside to the entire affair. Don't misunderstand me, the mind is the primary sex organ and my mind still deeply appreciates attractive women, and with a bit of chemical assistance, I can still rise to the occassion ( to coin a phrase ).

But ( and this is a HUGE "but!"), I no longer feel compelled to do so! The decision to have sex is totally dependent now on my decision to do so for whatever reasons I choose. If I don't want to be bothered with "the chase" anymore, I have that option. If I don't want to go to great lengths ( not to mention great expense! ) to make myself attractive to women, I have that option. Finally I am free of "sexual compulsion!" I don't HAVE to have sex.

If I choose to love a particular woman, and she has no interest in sex, that has now become ok. If I choose to love a particular woman who greatly enjoys sex, that is still ok as well.

This is a really new and rather strange paradigm for me. It's going to be interesting getting use to it.

This is all in your head. Physically, there should be no difference to you sex drive, as you still have your balls, no? Or did you opt for a simultaneous castration?

This is all in your head. Physically, there should be no difference to you sex drive, as you still have your balls, no? Or did you opt for a simultaneous castration?
ROFLMAO! Nope, I did not opt for anything else to be removed. No, this is not "all in my head." Seminal pressure plays a very real part in the male sex drive. Since I no longer have any seminal vesicles, that pressure no longer exists. Ergo, the urge to merge is no longer the driving force it use to be.

Huh. I've never liked the idea of a woman-ruled society (since I find most women annoying and foolish), but if what you say is true then I am forced to change my mind. If males actually feel "compelled" in the way you describe then I am horrified at the thought that such creatures are leading the world.

Of course, my roommate says that he experiences nothing like the "compulsion" you are talking about, so it might just be that you personally felt things that not all males experience.

ROFLMAO! Nope, I did not opt for anything else to be removed. No, this is not "all in my head." Seminal pressure plays a very real part in the male sex drive. Since I no longer have any seminal vesicles, that pressure no longer exists. Ergo, the urge to merge is no longer the driving force it use to be.
I know EXACTLY how you feel! ( I'm Married :p )

I'll admit I think about sex quite frequently, but I must say I have never had this compulsion to mate that you talk about. It's fun and nice and all that, but it's certainly not the motivating factor in my life. Maybe this surgery was good for you in more ways than one.

ROFLMAO! Nope, I did not opt for anything else to be removed. No, this is not "all in my head." Seminal pressure plays a very real part in the male sex drive. Since I no longer have any seminal vesicles, that pressure no longer exists. Ergo, the urge to merge is no longer the driving force it use to be.

"Seminal pressure" (if such a thing exists as mentioned in this context - my physiology books do not mention it at all) is not what controls your libido. It's your hormones in conjunction with your brain and your mood. A lower libido is often connected to surgery, fatigue, psychiatric conditions (such as depression or anxiety), and pain - all things that you have experienced recently. This is more likely what you are experiencing, instead of something caused by a loss of "pressure in the plumbing."

Are you on some anti-depressant, by the way?

I've always found this kind of thing to be a 'mind over matter' thing. I can control my desire to do it. Easily.

I currently have no real urge to "do it". All in good time, and when I'm married (yup, I'm one of them... but for good reason - I want my wife to be the first to experience it from me. It'll be more special). I occasionally check to see that everything's still working, but beyond that...

I currently have no real urge to "do it". All in good time, and when I'm married (yup, I'm one of them... but for good reason - I want my wife to be the first to experience it from me. It'll be more special).

Poor woman. Your first will be your worst. Practice makes perfect in matters sexual as well, and why anybody would want to subject the person they love to their worst game is beyond me.

I guess it would leave more time for NS but still you need the exercise

yes that’s how the singer from RHCP keeps in shape! (and why I got a six pack......in my fridge :p )

Eut, if you start getting all "sensitive" on us, I'm notifying the Department of Homeland Security. :p

But Fass is right. It's probably the drugs.

Huh. I've never liked the idea of a woman-ruled society (since I find most women annoying and foolish), but if what you say is true then I am forced to change my mind. If males actually feel "compelled" in the way you describe then I am horrified at the thought that such creatures are leading the world.

Of course, my roommate says that he experiences nothing like the "compulsion" you are talking about, so it might just be that you personally felt things that not all males experience.
You mean kinda like you personally feel things that not all females experience? Obviously, not everyone is going to feel everything in the same way, but at least one other male on here has posted that he knows exactly how I feel about this.

As I indicated in the original post, seminal pressure is one of the driving forces behind male sexuality. Prolonged abstainance for the average male will cause mood changes, an increase in habits like smoking, and eventually rather serious health problems ( Google "prostatitis" ). This does not indicate to me that seminal pressure is of little consequence. May I suggest that your roomate is either getting all he needs all the time, or has a much lower sex drive than the average male? :)

I'll admit I think about sex quite frequently, but I must say I have never had this compulsion to mate that you talk about. It's fun and nice and all that, but it's certainly not the motivating factor in my life. Maybe this surgery was good for you in more ways than one.
Hmm. So let me get this straight ... none of the things you do on a regular basis are at all intended to catch the notice of a female?

If I don't want to be bothered with "the chase" anymore, I have that option. If I don't want to go to great lengths ( not to mention great expense! ) to make myself attractive to women, I have that option. Finally I am free of "sexual compulsion!" I don't HAVE to have sex.

Welcome to being me. I sure have a sex drive, but also a strong sense of pride. I thought that you did as well.

"Seminal pressure" (if such a thing exists as mentioned in this context - my physiology books do not mention it at all) is not what controls your libido. It's your hormones in conjunction with your brain and your mood. A lower libido is often connected to surgery, fatigue, psychiatric conditions (such as depression or anxiety), and pain - all things that you have experienced recently. This is more likely what you are experiencing, instead of something caused by a loss of "pressure in the plumbing."

Are you on some anti-depressant, by the way?
Heh! No, I'm not on any sort of drugs at all, although I have percoset in case the pain should increase. :p

I indicated that seminal pressure ( caused by an accumulation of semen in the seminal vesicles ) is ONE OF the sources of sexual urges, not the only one and perhaps not even the most important one.

I found this while trying to research this issue online: "Fans of abstinence had better be sitting down. "Saving yourself" before the big game, the big business deal, the big hoedown or the big bakeoff may indeed confer some moral benefit. But corporeally it does absolutely zip. There's no evidence it sharpens your competitive edge. The best that modern science can say for sexual abstinence is that it's harmless when practiced in moderation. Having regular and enthusiastic sex, by contrast, confers a host of measurable physiological advantages, be you male or female. "

I also found this, which was highly interesting to me, for obvious reasons: "Some urologists believe they see a relationship between infrequency of ejaculation and cancer of the prostate. The causal argument goes like this: To produce seminal fluid, the prostate and the seminal vesicles take such substances from the blood as zinc, citric acid and potassium, then concentrate them up to 600 times. Any carcinogens present in the blood likewise would be concentrated. Rather than have concentrated carcinogens hanging around causing trouble, it's better to evict them. Regular old sex could do the job. But if the flushing of the prostate were your only objective, masturbation might be a better way to go, especially for the non-monogamous male."

I knew that having a radical prostatectomy would change my life in ways I could only dimly percieve prior to the operation. What I didn't expect was that it would also be a type of "liberation." snip...

Old age will do the same thing. :D We start thinking with the big head instead or the little head. :eek:

See what you young pups have to look forward to?
:D

Welcome to being me. I sure have a sex drive, but also a strong sense of pride. I thought that you did as well.
Um ... you have somehow concluded that I don't? :confused:

Eut, if you start getting all "sensitive" on us, I'm notifying the Department of Homeland Security. :p

But Fass is right. It's probably the drugs.
LOL! Um ... I think you're reading more into what I wrote than was originally intended! :p

Um ... you have somehow concluded that I don't? :confused:
Yes. If I don't want to do something like put myself to trouble or spend money in the expectation of having sex later, then I don't do it. Sometimes sex just is not worth the trouble.

I have to say that I have never experienced this “urge to merge.” That would require that I stop being an asshole, something I’m not willing to do.

Hm. Perhaps all men should have their prostates removed.

Hm. Perhaps all men should have their prostates removed.

Hm. Perhaps all women should be deprived of the right to vote! ;)

No offence, but what you seem to be saying is that even after 60+ years, it still took surgery for you to discover how to separate your brain from your balls?



Is it just me or do you seem to be a slow learner in this regard as most of us pass through the end of puberty a bit earlier... by a few decades or so....

Yes. If I don't want to do something like put myself to trouble or spend money in the expectation of having sex later, then I don't do it. Sometimes sex just is not worth the trouble.
And I have disagreed with this postition how??? :confused:

Damn you! You've achieved through surgery what I hope to achieve through my mind! Eh, puberty is such a difficult time for us asexuals...I need to constantly monitor myself, because as you said, many of the things we do are to attract mates, even unconsciously. Why do I act a lot nicer around girls, why am I far more willing to help them than men?

No offence, but what you seem to be saying is that even after 60+ years, it still took surgery for you to discover how to separate your brain from your balls?

Is it just me or do you seem to be a slow learner in this regard as most of us pass through the end of puberty a bit earlier... by a few decades or so....
ROFLMAO! Sigh. I suppose it's just my fate to be misinterpreted and misunderstood. :headbang:

Damn you! You've achieved through surgery what I hope to achieve through my mind! Eh, puberty is such a difficult time for us asexuals...I need to constantly monitor myself, because as you said, many of the things we do are to attract mates, even unconsciously. Why do I act a lot nicer around girls, why am I far more willing to help them than men?
Why are you so much brighter than Sdaeriji? :D

Whaddup, Eut! I guess I missed your return thread.

I gather that you won't be sending me your pr0n collection. :(

Did they give you your prostate in a jar to keep above your mantle?

Did they give you your prostate in a jar to keep above your mantle?
Don't be daft, you don't preserve prostates in a jar!
You stuff them and mount them on the wall beside your severed hand collection. You put stolen fetuses in a jar, fool!

Don't be daft, you don't preserve prostates in a jar!
You stuff them and mount them on the wall beside your severed hand collection. You put stolen fetuses in a jar, fool!

Nah-uh!

I keep my stolen foetuses in my fridge, next to the lunchmeat.

F00lz!

Nah-uh!

I keep my stolen foetuses in my fridge, next to the lunchmeat.
But then they might get freezer burn when you take them out to show them off. I mean, what is the point of hunting the most dangerous game if you don't intend to show off the results?
F00lz!
I would request that you kindly avoid speaking to the other voices in my head, and only refer to this one in the future. They are very shy (Well except for Mr KILL KILL MURDER DEATH, but he is just a jerk so everyone ignore him) and sometimes run away when people start talking about them.
Then all I have left is Mr KILL KILL MURDER DEATH, and those are very dark times indeed. (Mainly because, unlike the other voices, whenever I try and play cards with him he starts cheating).

Hm. Perhaps all men should have their prostates removed.
It's currently estimated that over 40% of all men will indeed have their prostates removed at some point or other, most of them after the age of 55.

Hey, good to hear your operation went well, Eut. It looks like those surgeons get to avoid a savage beating for now. And I don't have to spend thousands of dollars flying over there to beat them to bloody pulps with my old VCR. Also, I don't have to go through the ordeal of hiding the VCR somewhere the security people at the airport won't find it. So it's good all around, really.

And if you've gotten something positive out of the operation (aside from the obvious), then that's great too.

Whaddup, Eut! I guess I missed your return thread.

I gather that you won't be sending me your pr0n collection. :(

Did they give you your prostate in a jar to keep above your mantle?
Yes, I will be sending you my pr0n collection. I don't want it anymore. :)

I tried to get them to let me have the damned thing bronzed, but they said they needed to conduct a post-mortem on it ... something about "for the betterment of MANkind!" :D

Yes, I will be sending you my pr0n collection. I don't want it anymore. :)

I tried to get them to let me have the damned thing bronzed, but they said they needed to conduct a post-mortem on it ... something about "for the betterment of MANkind!" :D

Stupid mankind...

Hey, good to hear your operation went well, Eut. It looks like those surgeons get to avoid a savage beating for now. And I don't have to spend thousands of dollars flying over there to beat them to bloody pulps with my old VCR. Also, I don't have to go through the ordeal of hiding the VCR somewhere the security people at the airport won't find it. So it's good all around, really.

And if you've gotten something positive out of the operation (aside from the obvious), then that's great too.
Thanks, Reva. Apparently everything went well, but now we just wait and see if the PSA level goes back up. If it does, then perhaps chemo or radiological treatments, or a combination of both, to kill off whatever the surgeon may have missed.

Stupid mankind...
:D

Why are you so much brighter than Sdaeriji? :D
Sdaerji just needs to be more cognizant of his own weaknesses...I'm sure if he looks at a lot of things he does in his life, he'll notice how "the balls" influence a lot of what he does...;)

Congratulations.

Congratulations.
Thank'ye kindly. We'll see what happens.

Hm. Perhaps all women should be deprived of the right to vote! ;)<shrug> That's rather sexist, but doesn't affect me, so if you're going to make the trade off, then fine with me. :)

It's currently estimated that over 40% of all men will indeed have their prostates removed at some point or other, most of them after the age of 55.Yeah, it's the after age 55 thing, though. Humans would be so much more productive without a sex drive, but once most people hit 55, they've been in puberty more than half their lives, thus missing out on a lot of potential productivity. (Yes I know removing the prostate didn't remove all of your sex drive, just most of it.)

Sdaerji just needs to be more cognizant of his own weaknesses...I'm sure if he looks at a lot of things he does in his life, he'll notice how "the balls" influence a lot of what he does...;)

Men with balls using them are responsible for your freedom to say even stupid things.