NationStates Jolt Archive

Is it me or are the people in the Particracy Forums right pillocks who think they know everything and do not even want to consider other peoples' opinions are even sensibly debate them?

Being on that forum, made me think that this forum how great this forum this was and is and how much better the company is on here

Pretty much everyone in that whole game is like that. It's a depressing reminder of why I hate party politics.

I would have to admit there are some open minds in these forums. This is why I continue to post on here. I think its a good lot of people in general.

I would have to admit there are some open minds in these forums. This is why I continue to post on here. I think its a good lot of people in general.
Although you have to admit it's fun to flame those whose minds are sealed shut once in a while..

I towned down my rant a fair bit, but yea, I only been posting on the forums for 2 days and I am already fed up of the attitudes in that forum.

The game is alright though, well the nation/region I am in is alright..

The game is alright though, well the nation/region I am in is alright..

Nah. It's flawed massively. The libertarian parties in my region abolished all social welfare, yet they are still managing to get 60-80% of the vote.

"Sure, you can take away my public hospitals and education...and cut my minimum wage. I'll vote for you anyway!"

Yeah, right.

Nah. It's flawed massively. The libertarian parties in my region abolished all social welfare, yet they are still managing to get 60-80% of the vote.

"Sure, you can take away my public hospitals and education...and cut my minimum wage. I'll vote for you anyway!"

Yeah, right.

Fuckers. Just make your own region!

The other big flaw with the Particracy game, is the fact that a party cannot REMAIN popular by being good to the citizenry. You can push legislation to get you public awareness, and you can gain votes based on it... but once you HAVE your national constitution buttoned down to your utopian model, you can't reintroduce the SAME measures again - the way a real-life party does (see GW Bush for an example) - so you are running the handicap of being able to ONLY vote with or against other people to 'define' your political identity.

That's the mechanism problem... the REALISM problem is that, if everyone really WERE happy, they wouldn't vote the power out.... but, in my particular region, once we had something of a liberal/libertarian haven, it was a short-time before Fascist parties began to gain dominanc, by the simple process of proposing Bills against EVERYTHING, basically.

Fuckers. Just make your own region!

You can't.

And I agree Grave_n_idle. The only way the libertarian stranglehold was beat is by someone proposing a bunch of anti gay bills, etc. His party gained 40% of the vote as a result.

Nah. It's flawed massively. The libertarian parties in my region abolished all social welfare, yet they are still managing to get 60-80% of the vote.

"Sure, you can take away my public hospitals and education...and cut my minimum wage. I'll vote for you anyway!"

Yeah, right.

I would.

I would.

That's because you're not poor and dependent on those services. The chances 80% of the population would vote libertarian? Not likely.

That's because you're not poor and dependent on those services. The chances 80% of the population would vote libertarian? Not likely.

But 80% of the population isn't "poor".

That's because you're not poor and dependent on those services. The chances 80% of the population would vote libertarian? Not likely.
Depends on who has the propaganda machine. But in a real state it is not likely.

You can't.

And I agree Grave_n_idle. The only way the libertarian stranglehold was beat is by someone proposing a bunch of anti gay bills, etc. His party gained 40% of the vote as a result.

Ehh. Asses, all of them.

But 80% of the population isn't "poor".

80% of the population will certainly be affected by the complete privatisation of hospitals and education, as well as the elimination of any pension system, and a total abolition of the minimum wage. Can you really dispute that? It'll have an adverse affect on people and ideology aside, you know it. You might think it's a good thing, but it will cause hardship and 80% of the people will not support it. Plain and simple.

Fuckers. Just make your own region!
You cant and whats more it is Devoid of fun.

The other big flaw, is that it is almost impossible to have voter share, AND be 'moderate'. If you aren't pushing a 'pure', even 'extreme' agenda (one way or another), you might as well just get used to mid-table obscurity, and political lack of leverage.

80% of the population will certainly be affected by the complete privatisation of hospitals and education, as well as the elimination of any pension system, and a total abolition of the minimum wage. Can you really dispute that? It'll have an adverse affect on people and ideology aside, you know it. You might think it's a good thing, but it will cause hardship and 80% of the people will not support it. Plain and simple.

Well I think it would be a good thing, but of course it would never pass with the majority. You know why? People are selfish and are always expecting a government handout. So as long as the mob rules under the guise of "Democracy" there will never be a system like that.

The other big flaw, is that it is almost impossible to have voter share, AND be 'moderate'. If you aren't pushing a 'pure', even 'extreme' agenda (one way or another), you might as well just get used to mid-table obscurity, and political lack of leverage.

Yeah, it's like Weimar Germany.

Well I think it would be a good thing, but of course it would never pass with the majority. You know why? People are selfish and are always expecting a government handout. So as long as the mob rules under the guise of "Democracy" there will never be a system like that.

And i'm quite convinced that a purely "libertarian" society would be the most selfish and unreasonable hell on earth possible. OK, maybe not. A socially conservative anarchic market would be the worst. But lets end this here.

And i'm quite convinced that a purely "libertarian" society would be the most selfish and unreasonable hell on earth possible. OK, maybe not. A socially conservative anarchic market would be the worst. But lets end this here.

Fair enough. ;) I would have liked to continue though....

Fair enough. ;) I would have liked to continue though....

Perhaps another time. I'm off to bed. :p