NationStates Jolt Archive

I know it goes against my Libertarian stance, but I'm sort of pissed off right now, so there.
*cough*oxymoronic*cough*
Here's a surefire way to defeat these stupid little 'tards: DONT BUY THEIR MUSIC!
But can I Godwin this thread already? :D

Their parents should be shot, thatd sort it out.

*cough*oxymoronic*cough*
Here's a surefire way to defeat these stupid little 'tards: DONT BUY THEIR MUSIC!
But can I Godwin this thread already? :D
How does one Godwin a thread about Nazis?

I swear Celtlund, I don't know why you try to make extremely marginal groups out to be bigger than they are. Without people like you, such groups would get a lot less press.

That is my whole point. Here we have an article released by the ABC news condeming these two girls for spreading hate. They should be condemed for that. No one should spread hate, but ABC doesn't condem minority hate groups for spreading hatred about other people.

By the way, it was ABC that ran this story and made this marginal group out to be a lot bigger than they are.

*cough*oxymoronic*cough*
Here's a surefire way to defeat these stupid little 'tards: DONT BUY THEIR MUSIC!
But can I Godwin this thread already? :D
This actually leads to an interesting point, can you Godwin a thread where the other side is Nazis? Is it pre-Godwined?
Or do Nazis have a reverse Godwin, where anyone who compares something to non-Nazis automatically loses.

Wait, are you talking about branding, or about literally building a platform on the back of a cow from which to erect and burn a cross.
If you are talking about the platform thing, then I definitely thing that you should do it, and then when the cow tips over, the grass catches fire, and your livelihood is ruined, you should go blame it on the Jew Media.

ROFLMAO :D

But it would not be OK to burn a cross on your cattle if you grazed them on public land. :eek:
Why not?

How does one Godwin a thread about Nazis?

What does it mean to Godwin a thread?

What does it mean to Godwin a thread?

Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law)

Do you not understand the point of this, or do you think it's okay to run around saying that all jews and blacks should be killed?

Point is if you are going to condem these girls for using their music to spread hatred, are you also going to condem others for doing the same thing? All should be condemed.

We're not the ones turning our 13 year old twin daughters into white power sex symbols.
I didn't see anything about sex-symbols, neither in the article, nor from what little I read in the forum. Where did you get that?

OT: Have you gotten your usernames?

Point is if you are going to condem these girls for using their music to spread hatred, are you also going to condem others for doing the same thing? All should be condemed.

Interestingly enough, it took you about a dozen posts to actually condemn these girls for spreading hate, but only one post for you to whine about unfair treatment of white people in the media.

I didn't see anything about sex-symbols, neither in the article, nor from what little I read in the forum. Where did you get that?
From the fact that they wanted to have sex with them.
Remember Boys and Girls, it is always the womans fault, always.

EDIT: The above post is a joke. A Joke. I don't hate women, I don't especially like men. Rape is a horrible thing, and rapists should be kicked in the balls.

Interestingly enough, it took you about a dozen posts to actually condemn these girls for spreading hate, but only one post for you to whine about unfair treatment of white people in the media.

Hey, I see you are from Beantown. I grew up in Belmont. Love Boston, but haven't been there in many years. :(

Hey, I see you are from Beantown. I grew up in Belmont. Love Boston, but haven't been there in many years. :(

I used to live in Brighton, but now I'm out by Framingham.

They're 13 year old nazis. *vomits*

it's ok, there is still time for them - kids that age don't know shit about anything. we'll have to do something about their parents though.

it's ok, there is still time for them - kids that age don't know shit about anything. we'll have to do something about their parents though.
Unless you can remove them, and apparently their toddler sibling, from their parents immediately, the two older girls might turn out tolerable. Removing the toddler is the only way to save her/him.

About their forums...

If you're wondering why you need mod approval to register, it's because of a TribalWar forum invasion two days ago. Here's the thread about that:

http://www.tribalwar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=403622

Cliffs:
-Tribalwar invaded the boards
-had over 316 users logged in and posting gay interracial porn all over the boards
-Admins on the nazi site are terrible and can't figure out how to ban for a while
-User name bans are insituted (which didn't stop anything)
-The boards are shut down and a message is displayed saying, "Ok all you losers from TribalWar.com, you can stop spamming now, but be sure to tell your administrator that payback is a bitch and you are responsible for whatever happens to your forums"
-Nazi boards re-open registration, pending admin approval on user names and posts
-TW is doing forum invasion #2 tonight

-snip-
So that's why the forum was going crazy 2 days ago

Their baby sister's name is Dresden....

Point is if you are going to condem these girls for using their music to spread hatred, are you also going to condem others for doing the same thing? All should be condemed.
I've yet to see anyone support hate music from either side. All you're attempting to do is justify their music.

Wow...the TribalWar people really went all out.

Wow...the TribalWar people really went all out.

Indeed

Wow...the TribalWar people really went all out.

Hahahaha, damn good stuff. I'd like to be a part of that invasion. :D

*snip*
That is fucking awesome.

Well I'm trying for the name 'Commie Swine'.

What's the betting I make at least 3 threads full of Hentai before I get banned?

Well I'm trying for the name 'Commie Swine'.

What's the betting I make at least 3 threads full of Hentai before I get banned?

Go for it, dude!

Go for it, dude!

Anyone wants to TG material then go for it.

I love doing this kind of thing.

Theirs also a british Band called Prussian Blue according to Mr. Wiki... it's also a toxic chemical formula... I learned that from Mr. Fe^4[Fe(CN)6]^3.

Tribalwar has always been notorius for doing whatever they damn well pleased. Their IRC channel was ridiculous.

Tribalwar has always been notorius for doing whatever they damn well pleased. Their IRC channel was ridiculous.

Got a link?

Got a link?
To what?

To what?
Tribalwar

Tribalwar
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search.pl?query=tribalwar

Theirs also a british Band called Prussian Blue according to Mr. Wiki... it's also a toxic chemical formula... I learned that from Mr. Fe^4[Fe(CN)6]^3.
I made that in the lab about six months ago. It isn't especially toxic unless you mix it with a strong acid, when the CN(-) gets released from its ligands with H3O(+). Then it's just Hydrocyanic Acid. I think the argument surrounding Prussian Blue was that people who claimed the holocaust never happened said the gas chambers should have been coated with Prussian Blue if Jewish people had actually been gassed with Zyklon-B.

I'd still boink them... now where'd I leave the handcuffs. ;)

I'd still boink them... now where'd I leave the handcuffs. ;)
13 YEARS OLD
NAZIS
TRAILER TRASH
FTL

I'd still boink them... now where'd I leave the handcuffs. ;)
*Weilds Stick of Wait Till After Puberty*
Keep *hits Haaregrad* your *hits Haaregrad* fucking *hits Haaregrad* paedofantasies *hits Haaregrad* to *hits Haaregrad* your *hits Haaregrad* self *hits Haaregrad* you *hits Haaregrad* filthy *hits Haaregrad* pervert!

Tribalwar has always been notorius for doing whatever they damn well pleased. Their IRC channel was ridiculous.
They goatse'd 300,000 people on CNN. Wiki "Tribalwar" if you want the story.

They goatse'd 300,000 people on CNN. Wiki "Tribalwar" if you want the story.
Tribalwar people have been doing crap like this since Tribes was big, aka back in the day. Their IRC room wasn't far below GameFAQs' Life, the Universe, and Everything forum.

tribalwar > *

Be sure to visit the Hall of Fame in our forums.

They goatse'd 300,000 people on CNN. Wiki "Tribalwar" if you want the story.

So that's who was responsible for the fucking goatse. I hated that site.

holy crap! why do two cuties spread white supremacy! that's definetly an article that you would scream HOLY SHIT! at
gosh, what happened to the innocence of children, despite they are teens

I'm going to spam it... Kryozerkia style!

I'm registering as WhiteRose (and for those of you who don't know, here's the 2 minute history lesson you never got....:
The White Rose (http://www.jlrweb.com/whiterose/)
Student group in Nazi Germany who resisted Hitler. They published anti-Nazi pamphlets...)

Once that is done, I'm going to go get high and spread weed-induced idiocy.

These girls need to be ignored.

These girls need to be ignored.
No luck there, Hell, I don't even think that the sex thread made it this far and this fast.
20 Pages in less than 24 hours? Some people need to get lives.

Right just to start off on a few things. Though I do not agree with the girls point of view they have the right to express it in song. I wonder if these girls will ever be exposed to different points of view or if they will just be taught that they are all propaganda. Also the fact that on their forum we have people denying that the holocoust happened/that the stats on the number of deaths keeps changing(they believe its going down)/or the fact that the amount of polish killed is greater then the amount of jews killed. I mean the blatant disregard there and just labeling the other source as biased or ficticious is its just so bad that words fail me now.

From the article:

"Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message."

No kidding. Took 'em 3 pages to get around to that.. :rolleyes: Way to define, "success," ABC. No sales numbers.. nah, that'd give us an actual idea about how many people actually listen to that crap. My guess is they've sold a few hundred records, tops.

Also, what exactly is "their message?" Not one mention of any of their song lyrics in the entire article.. Let their filth speak for itself - give us the quotes. I'm no expert on journalism, but I've read enough to be unsatisfied with that article.

No luck there, Hell, I don't even think that the sex thread made it this far and this fast.
20 Pages in less than 24 hours? Some people need to get lives.

It's not that people don't have lives.. it's just the thread title. People think "huh? what could possibly be more evil than the Olsen twins?" :p

From the article:

"Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message."

No kidding. Took 'em 3 pages to get around to that.. :rolleyes: Way to define, "success," ABC. No sales numbers.. nah, that'd give us an actual idea about how many people actually listen to that crap. My guess is they've sold a few hundred records, tops.

Also, what exactly is "their message?" Not one mention of any of their song lyrics in the entire article.. Let their filth speak for itself - give us the quotes. I'm no expert on journalism, but I've read enough to be unsatisfied with that article.
I don't know about America, but around here media is not allowed to spread blatantly racist stuff. Too many people get upset because it looks like them making propaganda, even if everyone sees through it.

From the article:

"Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message."

No kidding. Took 'em 3 pages to get around to that.. :rolleyes: Way to define, "success," ABC. No sales numbers.. nah, that'd give us an actual idea about how many people actually listen to that crap. My guess is they've sold a few hundred records, tops.

Also, what exactly is "their message?" Not one mention of any of their song lyrics in the entire article.. Let their filth speak for itself - give us the quotes. I'm no expert on journalism, but I've read enough to be unsatisfied with that article.
"I will bleed for you" by the Nazi Twins insinuates something about whites being second class citizens and blacks taking all of our money and some other bullshit.

I don't know about America, but around here media is not allowed to spread blatantly racist stuff. Too many people get upset because it looks like them making propaganda, even if everyone sees through it.

You just can't incite a riot but other than that, you can publish whatever the hell you want. Its called Freedom of Speech.

I don't know about America, but around here media is not allowed to spread blatantly racist stuff. Too many people get upset because it looks like them making propaganda, even if everyone sees through it.

I think they could've pulled off givining some actual specifics without being denounced as pro-nazi.. the article looks like something a staff writer would hand to an underling after doing the interviews, and say "here, flesh this out a bit." It's a skeleton that could've been a real article. Instead, I have no clue how big the "movement" is that buys that kind of stuff, and I have no clue what kind of things those kids sing about that makes them so popular. A little information wouldn't kill us.. and I'm not gonna wade through a bunch of internet filth and google the lyrics.. they could've given us an idea.

I've yet to see anyone support hate music from either side. All you're attempting to do is justify their music.

Nope. I'm an equal opportunity condemner of hate music and hate speech.

"I will bleed for you" by the Nazi Twins insinuates something about whites being second class citizens and blacks taking all of our money and some other bullshit.
Such a shame they used it, because "I Will Bleed for You" could have been an interesting song title.
Now it will be forever branded by "them that do the hatin'."

From the article:

"Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message."

No kidding. Took 'em 3 pages to get around to that.. :rolleyes: Way to define, "success," ABC. No sales numbers.. nah, that'd give us an actual idea about how many people actually listen to that crap. My guess is they've sold a few hundred records, tops.

Also, what exactly is "their message?" Not one mention of any of their song lyrics in the entire article.. Let their filth speak for itself - give us the quotes. I'm no expert on journalism, but I've read enough to be unsatisfied with that article.

Hey, you know how liberal journalism is, they report half the story get it half right and call it the total truth.

big snip...and I'm not gonna wade through a bunch of internet filth and google the lyrics.. they could've given us an idea.

Please let us know where you find them.

Hey, you know how liberal journalism is, they report half the story get it half right and call it the total truth.

As long as they get their cheap shot in against homeshooling, the article has served its purpose, I guess. The government knows how to set your kids on the proper ideological path, remember.

That seemed to be the author's intent, although it could just be shoddy work. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on intent, but the work is poor either way.

How come it is called hate speech when these girls promote white culture but is OK when Louis Farrakhan does something similar to promote black culture?
Farrakhan should hang right next to these ****s in my book. Same with Robert KKK Byrd.

Please let us know where you find them.

Google hasn't turned up any lyrics pages for me.. maybe my search terms were off. There's always edonkey, or whatever filesharing program you have (I don't have one, or I woulda checked). However, kid singers fry my nerves, no matter what they're singing about, so I'll leave that to others..

As long as they get their cheap shot in against homeshooling, the article has served its purpose, I guess. The government knows how to set your kids on the proper ideological path, remember.

That seemed to be the author's intent, although it could just be shoddy work. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on intent, but the work is poor either way.
It is alot harder to indoctrinate children who have influence from other teachers and at home, as oppsoed to homeschool students who are only exposed to parental views.

I'd still boink them... now where'd I leave the handcuffs. ;)
I say boink em and then kill them.

I agree most parents shouldn't be homeschooling and are doing damage to their kids, but there are some exceptions. Some friends of ours homeschool their kids because their local schools suck. Their oldest son is 14 and just got a 1300 on the SATs. I know that isn't the best score, but consider the fact he is the age of most 8th graders. He should be able to get a 1400-1500 in a few years. He is a very smart person who wants to go to the USNA.

Oh come on, we all know that Chinese ones are better-looking. Always.
Not better looking always, just more exotic in bed. (I sadly don't know from experience yet)

Farrakhan should hang right next to these ****s in my book. Same with Robert KKK Byrd.

Byrd is going to run again and will get re-elected. How sad. :(

I agree most parents shouldn't be homeschooling and are doing damage to their kids, but there are some exceptions. Some friends of ours homeschool their kids because their local schools suck. Their oldest son is 14 and just got a 1300 on the SATs. I know that isn't the best score, but consider the fact he is the age of most 8th graders. He should be able to get a 1400-1500 in a few years. He is a very smart person who wants to go to the USNA.

Most people who home school do so because the public education system in this country is broken. Most home schooled kids do very well. These two girls are ont of the exceptions so don't say "most parents are doing damage to their kids." Most parents who home school are doing a great service to their kids. Most don't brain wash them. They educate them.

Most people who home school do so because the public education system in this country is broken. Most home schooled kids do very well. These two girls are ont of the exceptions so don't say "most parents are doing damage to their kids." Most parents who home school are doing a great service to their kids. Most don't brain wash them. They educate them.

That's usually true. Also, I recall quite a bit of racism in school among the kids I knew that wasn't "cured" by exposure to government education.. coming home to racist parents will do its work, whether you have teachers of all colors or not. The article mentions homeschooling and omits real facts because it wants an immediate association to be made, while in truth, those kids would probably absorb their parents' message anyway. It's not fair to the millions of homeschooled kids to keep the stereotype of zealot parents being their teachers, while in almost all cases, that's far from the case.

The public school system does its own share brainwashing and to think otherwise is ridiculous.

It has to be Romanian Gypsy, or it's not authentic!
Isn't this racist too? What's wrong with the Gypsies from other countries? :confused:

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Yep, white supremacist teenage girl pop stars. The endtimes are truly upon us.
Here is some dialogue from an interview (http://www.grapevine.is/?show=article&id=226&issue=)with the twins:

Would you consider yourselves white supremacist or separatist, and why?
Lamb: White Nationalist or Separatist since a supremacist means that we would want to rule other races and to be honest, we just don’t want them around.
Lynx: We do think our race is different than other races in a lot of positive ways and that we have invented more things and done more for civilization. We don’t want to harm other races but we don’t want to have to take care of them or be around them either.

Have you ever visited the country (or countries) of your heritage, and have you ever considered moving there one day?
Lamb: No, we haven’t. I would move to any country that would allow Whites to have their own living space. Or any country that would allow it to be politically correct to be a separatist.
Lynx: No, I haven’t been to any of the countries of my heritage. I might like to move to a European country like Iceland or Ireland or Germany but only if they haven’t ruined it by allowing too many immigrants from non-white countries like the US did.

If the border were closed, would this include the exclusion of white Europeans?
Lamb: No, I know a lot of people from Europe and they are here legally.
Lynx: No, because from what I have seen White Europeans benefit our country and our society.

Should immigrants already living in the US be deported, segregated or assimilated? Lamb: Give the nonwhites an area to stay if they were born here and if they haven’t done anything wrong. If they are here illegally or if they moved here then send them back.
Lynx: I think we should allow the races to separate that are here. If the government doesn’t make people live near each other they probably won’t want to and they won’t mix.

Sad to say the least.:(

Proof that racism is taught and not learnt... which means that: in order to eradicate racism, we must kill all racists... heh, though ironically, it would make us racists in a strange way...? :p

Sad to say the least.:(
It is no more daft then any other set of answers you would get if you started asking 13 year olds about geopolitics and treating them seriously.
People tend to develop simplistic views of the world when their young, its just a matter of development. They have recognized that something in the world isn't quite right, and then they seized on the easiest solution, because all the baddies can be recognized on sight.
Like I said, I had a Nazi phase, I grew out of it.

It is no more daft then any other set of answers you would get if you started asking 13 year olds about geopolitics and treating them seriously.
People tend to develop simplistic views of the world when their young, its just a matter of development. They have recognized that something in the world isn't quite right, and then they seized on the easiest solution, because all the baddies can be recognized on sight.
Like I said, I had a Nazi phase, I grew out of it.
You did, but they are being deliberately conditioned to be like that and chances are that because of the seclusion that comes from their home schooling (not to critisize; just an observation), they aren't being sufficiantly exposed to conflicting opinions and points of view to challange their warped ones.

Isn't this racist too? What's wrong with the Gypsies from other countries? :confused:

Dude, it's a joke. Read our back-and-forth replies.

It is no more daft then any other set of answers you would get if you started asking 13 year olds about geopolitics and treating them seriously.
People tend to develop simplistic views of the world when their young, its just a matter of development. They have recognized that something in the world isn't quite right, and then they seized on the easiest solution, because all the baddies can be recognized on sight.
Like I said, I had a Nazi phase, I grew out of it.
Their mom is teaching them this stuff. They are taught in home from what I have read so far.

You did, but they are being deliberately conditioned to be like that and chances are that because of the seclusion that comes from their home schooling (not to critisize; just an observation), they aren't being sufficiantly exposed to conflicting opinions and points of view to challange their warped ones.
When I was 13, I never was exposed to conflicting viewpoints. When my teacher said something that disagreed with my preconceived notions, I sniggered, and drew White Power crap instead of notes. When I went to lunch, I sat with my few fellows with whom I was in perfect agreement.
Kids will brainwash themselves if no one else puts forth the effort to do so. Anyways, I'll bet that one of them will undergo a rebellious phase and start dating a black guy just to piss off her mom by 17.

arghh, how in the hell did this thread get so many pages?

Yes, there exists racist in the united states of america &c. They are not, however, a majority, or even a significant minority: some of them have music.

If this continues I will start a thread about racist music the UK.

About their forums...

If you're wondering why you need mod approval to register, it's because of a TribalWar forum invasion two days ago. Here's the thread about that:


ROFLMAO!!!!

:D

arghh, how in the hell did this thread get so many pages?

Yes, there exists racist in the united states of america &c. They are not, however, a majority, or even a significant minority: some of them have music.

If this continues I will start a thread about racist music the UK.
I think a large part of it is the numerous subarguments that start up about home schooling or rap music or Godwin's Law, and those carry on. Then you add on the Jail bait factor, because you're all a bunch of perverts, and the fact that a thread with 300+ replies is bound to draw more attention, and more people who aren't going to read the whole thread and will simply throw in their two cents.
The fact is, this is a monster, and it cannot die!

*Weilds Stick of Wait Till After Puberty*
Keep *hits Haaregrad* your *hits Haaregrad* fucking *hits Haaregrad* paedofantasies *hits Haaregrad* to *hits Haaregrad* your *hits Haaregrad* self *hits Haaregrad* you *hits Haaregrad* filthy *hits Haaregrad* pervert!

No, it's funny.

Well, not really, but someone has to say it.

They're probably not very nice, which makes someone unboinkable.

Although I'd have to yell "Haha! I'm Jewish!" right before I leave.

No, it's funny.

Well, not really, but someone has to say it.

They're probably not very nice, which makes someone unboinkable.

Although I'd have to yell "Haha! I'm Jewish!" right before I leave.
That would just make then hate Jewish people more. You should say something about you being Aryan (even if it's not true).

Nope. I'm an equal opportunity condemner of hate music and hate speech.
Throughout this thread you have been just itching to pick a fight with one of these mythical "politically correct" liberals.

Throughout this thread you have been just itching to pick a fight with one of these mythical "politically correct" liberals.
Hey, I found some here (http://pubphilosopher.blogs.com/pub_philosopher/images/suicide_2.gif)! XD

Dude, the only way a 13-year-old girl's opinion can become more trivial is if she sets it to music. Why does anybody care about these twits?

And With the Name Prussian blue i though they would be singing about Bulcher , jena , Fredrick the Great etc

I have one very important question: why is every other culture allowed and even encouraged to preserve their culture except the whites? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

I have one very important question: why is every other culture allowed and even encouraged to preserve their culture except the whites? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

White culture isn't under any serious attack that I'm aware of. It does, however, have a history of attacking other cultures.

White culture isn't under any serious attack that I'm aware of. It does, however, have a history of attacking other cultures.

That is why I said preserve, not export their culture. Personally, I don't see a couple of teeny-bopper pop-singers as much of a threat or world altering force even if they sing about aryanism.

White culture isn't under any serious attack that I'm aware of. It does, however, have a history of attacking other cultures.
White culture? Which one of them?

It always puzzles me how people use words like "white culture" as if the Russians, the Swedes and the French were all cultural twins. Or "black culture", as if the Zulu culture was identical to that of Madagascar and the African Americans. Kind of funny how the racists and the "new abolitionists" engage in identical logical fallacies whenever race is concerned.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Yep, white supremacist teenage girl pop stars. The endtimes are truly upon us.
Oh my gawd! Is it legal to spread such hate messages in the US? I know, they're 13, but their family should be blamed for teaching them that white supremacist crap. But before blaming their family, blame homeschooling.

Oh my gawd! Is it legal to spread such hate messages in the US? I know, they're 13, but their family should be blamed for teaching them that white supremacist crap. But before blaming their family, blame homeschooling.
As if public schooling is any better - nobody likes to be indoctrinated by the state, after all...

I have one very important question: why is every other culture allowed and even encouraged to preserve their culture except the whites? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Wait, there's a "white culture?" I wasn't aware that there was a "culture" surrounding relatively low concentrations of dermal melanin.

As if public schooling is any better - nobody likes to be indoctrinated by the state, after all...
Have you actually BEEN to a public school? "The State" can't even be bothered to buy us text books, let alone "indoctrinate" us into anything. :P

Have you actually BEEN to a public school? "The State" can't even be bothered to buy us text books, let alone "indoctrinate" us into anything. :P
Ah yes, best damn school in the state and we're stuck using 10 year old chem texts that look as if they've been flushed down the toilet one time too many.

Ah yes, best damn school in the state and we're stuck using 10 year old chem texts that look as if they've been flushed down the toilet one time too many.
I hear all these people talking about how public schools are "indoctrinating" kids into one political agenda or another, but our American History textbooks stopped halfway through Andrew Jackson's administration. Do the homeschoolers think "the State" is going to brainwash our youth to oppose the National Bank or something? Hell, even the whole "Creationism versus Evolution" debate is pointless, since half our schools use biology books printed around the time Darwin was born.

As if public schooling is any better - nobody likes to be indoctrinated by the state, after all...
As if public schooling teaches racist values...

You know that every state or country stands for a series of values. I think it's very important that a country uses education to indoctrinate the population into these fundamental values.

As if public schooling teaches racist values...

You know that every state or country stands for a series of values. I think it's very important that a country uses education to indoctrinate the population into these fundamental values.
I strongly disagree. Public school shouldn't be "indoctrinating" kids to be racist or anti-racist. Public schools should simply teach the facts.

The fact is that there is no scientific basis for racism, in terms of innate human biology, but culturally-founded racism has been a part of human behavior for pretty much all of recorded history. The fact is that fanatically racist behavior is counterproductive in the majority of social and professional settings in our country today, but there have been many great leaders and successful individuals who were vehemently racist. The fact is that racism has been associated with some really horrid behavior across history, but so have religion and capitalism (which we are all supposed to love). The fact is that many racist activities are against the law, and therefore one can face prosecution for certain racist activities, but there have been many laws throughout our history which we now believe to have been unjust.

The fact is that racism is a set of personal OPINIONS, just like religion, or liberalism/conservativism, or preference of ice cream flavor. Public school should not be wasting its time telling kids what opinions to have on subjective matters. Schools should present facts, and should teach students to evaluate those facts and reach their own conclusions. Personally, I think the facts are convincing enough, which is why racists and religious fundamentalists fight so hard to keep their kids from learning the facts.

Of course kids should not be permitted to act on racist opinions in any way that is disruptive in class, just as they should not be allowed to disrupt class with disagreements over taste in music, but that's where the direct "diciplining" should end. Creating young citizens who parrot back anti-racist talking points is as useless as brainwashing 13 year old girls to talk about "white pride." You have to EDUCATE the little buggers to the point where they will consciously make good choices for themselves.

American schools are churning out students who are barely literate. We give diplomas to students who have a 16th century view of the origins of the Earth. We give passing grades to 18 year olds who cannot add fractions. To suggest that we should waste the already-pitiful resources of our education system on "moral" indoctrination is inexcusable.

Throughout this thread you have been just itching to pick a fight with one of these mythical "politically correct" liberals.

Not a fight sir, I'm to old for that. :D However a good, open, honest discussion about the hypocrisy of the leftist media in the US.

White culture isn't under any serious attack that I'm aware of. It does, however, have a history of attacking other cultures.

ROFLAMO :D White culture isn't under any serious attack? You are kidding, right?

Not a fight sir, I'm to old for that. :D However a good, open, honest discussion about the hypocrisy of the leftist media in the US.
Oh yeah, that leftist media which (so I hear) is afraid to criticise your government too vehemently. (Remember when Ireland's Carole Coleman raised hell last year?)

I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe that your media goes around praising the virtues of Nation of Islam.

White culture isn't under any serious attack? You are kidding, right?
You're not a far-right wing ideologue? You are kidding, right?

But before blaming their family, blame homeschooling.
Not at all. The majority of home schooled people are quite normal. I say blame the family, entirely.

ROFLAMO :D White culture isn't under any serious attack? You are kidding, right?
Hon, there ISN'T any "white culture." I come from one of the whitest states in the Union, and if there was a "white culture" we probably would have heard about it. Now, there's Irish culture, Scandanavian culture, French culture, "colonial culture," Southern culture, Yankee culture, Eurotrash culture...and the list goes on.

Honestly, whenever you say "white culture" the first thing that springs into my mind is Goth culture, since they're the only ones who actually have WHITE faces.

Hon, there ISN'T any "white culture." I come from one of the whitest states in the Union, and if there was a "white culture" we probably would have heard about it. Now, there's Irish culture, Scandanavian culture, French culture, "colonial culture," Southern culture, Yankee culture, Eurotrash culture...and the list goes on.

Honestly, whenever you say "white culture" the first thing that springs into my mind is Goth culture, since they're the only ones who actually have WHITE faces.
Would that apply to a Black Goth?:p

Would that apply to a Black Goth?:p
Hey, enough pancake makeup can make ANYBODY white.

Hey, enough pancake makeup can make ANYBODY white.
Gotcha. So people who, like these two girls in the article, advocate supremacy of the people with white faces should be referred to as Pancake Nationalists?

ROFLAMO :D White culture isn't under any serious attack? You are kidding, right?
There is a white culture? There everf was a white culture?

There is a white culture? There everf was a white culture?

We aren't allowed to have a culture, because it would be OMGZ RACIST!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven

Live giant thread monster. LIIIIIIVE! Go out and crush the other threads with your inanity and pointlessness. Draw them in with the jailbait and trap them with your multi-pronged debate about nothing! MWAHAHAHA!

We aren't allowed to have a culture, because it would be OMGZ RACIST!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven
White isn't a race.

White isn't a race.
Tell that to the damn affirmative action people and the fucking feds.

We aren't allowed to have a culture, because it would be OMGZ RACIST!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneeleven
Well, since these girls and their crew are trying to create a white culture without being ass-whipped by the police; it sounds like white people are allowed to have a culture.

White people have no unified culture in America because they are a majority. There are many European cultures but no unified white culture like there is among American blacks. Minorities tend to stick together even if it means articifically ironing out differences. You can see this anywhere in the world.

White isn't a race.

Your right. We are called Caucasion :D

Tell that to the damn affirmative action people and the fucking feds.
And the KKK and neo-nazis.

Your right. We are called Caucasion :D
Which still isn't a single race.

I'm sorry, but there is no "Caucasian" culture because there is no "Caucasian" race (well maybe in the Caucas somewhere but not here).

Tell that to the damn affirmative action people and the fucking feds.

Here here!

Which still isn't a single race.

I'm sorry, but there is no "Caucasian" culture because there is no "Caucasian" race (well maybe in the Caucas somewhere but not here).

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.

And the KKK and neo-nazis.
Yep them to. Really, there aren’t any “races” at least the way they are defined today. There are certain sub-cultures that are more prevalent among those of certain ancestry, but almost every “black” person has significant amounts of “white” DNA and vice versa.

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.


Hispanic/Latino too!

Hispanic/Latino too!

Yep them too.

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.
Entirely different topic.

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.
That doesn't make it true though.

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.
Just imagine how confusing it is for my friend Sabrina, a girl with European ancestry who was born and raised in Southern Africa (around the Kalahari Desert)...she's more "African-American" than most black people in America, but she's got light skin, so what is she supposed to check off?

Also, the forms I've seen list "White" rather than "Caucasian" and "African-American" rather than "Black." Which, in my opinion, is stupid because most black-skinned Americans have never so much as visited a single country in Africa. They're not "African" Americans, they're Americans who happen to have dark skin. It's like how I'm just an American with white skin, not a "Hungarian-American."

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.
I mark them all. God bless self-identification.

Entirely different topic.

Nice back up. I just proved that Caucasian is a race and this is what you come back with.

Thanks for playing.

I'm sorry, but there is no "Caucasian" culture because there is no "Caucasian" race (well maybe in the Caucas somewhere but not here).
There does exist a white/Caucasian race. But race is defined by anthropological features like skin color or skull shape, and culture is not based on skin color or skull shape. "White culture" or "Black culture", or "gay culture" for that matter makes no more sense than "blonde culture", "fat culture" or "long crooked nose culture".

Also, the forms I've seen list "White" rather than "Caucasian" and "African-American" rather than "Black." Which, in my opinion, is stupid because most black-skinned Americans have never so much as visited a single country in Africa. They're not "African" Americans, they're Americans who happen to have dark skin. It's like how I'm just an American with white skin, not a "Hungarian-American."
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There does exist a white/Caucasian race. But race is defined by anthropological features, and culture is not based on skin color. "White culture" or "Black culture", or "gay culture" for that matter makes no more sense than "blonde culture", "fat culture" or "long crooked nose culture".
Exactly! White people in America don't belong to some unified collective. Hell, class-based "cultures" are more significant forces than racial cultures in this country.

Nice back up. I just proved that Caucasian is a race and this is what you come back with.

Thanks for playing.
We are not talking about races for the purposes of proving they are races, we are talking about the "white culture," which can't exist because there is no white race.

I wasn't playing Monopoly, I was playing Battleship.

We are not talking about races for the purposes of proving they are races, we are talking about the "white culture," which can't exist because there is no white race.

I wasn't playing Monopoly, I was playing Battleship.

And you just lost your battleship since you just contradicted yourself. We have already proven that there is a white race however the white race is broken down by geographical cultures.

They may be coockoo-coockoo bananas, but I bet they're a good lay.
I bet you you're wrong on that score.

And you just lost your battleship since you just contradicted yourself. We have already proven that there is a white race however the white race is broken down by geographical cultures.
What's this "we" stuff, paleface? If you want to prove there's a "white race," or a "black race" for that matter, you best be ready for some heavy research. Current molecular biology and genetics research has concluded that the racial delineations recognized by the average joe are completely artificial, and are unrelated to the significant underlying genetic and physiological traits. Now, it's true that our common culture currently breaks things down "racially," but that doesn't mean the culture is RIGHT...it's more of a hold-over from our more ignorant days.

And you just lost your battleship since you just contradicted yourself. We have already proven that there is a white race however the white race is broken down by geographical cultures.
Which is what we are talking about, now go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

Which is what we are talking about, now go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

But you made the assertion that there was no white race so you just lost your carrier now.

But you made the assertion that there was no white race so you just lost your carrier now.
There is no "white" race. There is the Irish race, the German race, the Russian race, etc, but there is no white race.

I think I have discovered the problem with NS, more people have looked at this thread in about 24 hours then have looked at any 2 of the stickied rules threads combined in the past ever how long those posts have been here.

I think I have discovered the problem with NS, more people have looked at this thread in about 24 hours then have looked at any 2 of the stickied rules threads combined in the past ever how long those posts have been here.

Nope, not a problem. Thankfully, we seem to be troll-free over here today. Yayness.

Anyway, aren't these two girls (and their nutty parents) kind of strange?

There is no "white" race. There is the Irish race, the German race, the Russian race, etc, but there is no white race.

Is there a black race, an asian race, an hispanic race?

How come it is called hate speech when these girls promote white culture but is OK when Louis Farrakhan does something similar to promote black culture?

Because african americans arent known
for genocide or other evil shit.

Is there a black race, an asian race, an hispanic race?
In America there is a black race, because they arn't African or Carribbean.

Is there a black race, an asian race, an hispanic race?

Hispanics are actually mixed between MesoAmerican and Spanish European.

Because african americans arent known
for genocide or other evil shit.

RWANDA :headbang:

RWANDA :headbang:

Congo too not to mention Adi Imin!

Congo too!

Yea the whole great lakes area in Africa is screwed up.

Is there a black race, an asian race, an hispanic race?
Nope, at least not in any "objective" sense.

There are, however, Hispanic, Asian, and African subcultures in America. Most of them are only called "Hispanic culture" or "Asian culture" by outsiders, since the people who belong to those subcultures use much more precise terms. For instance, try telling a Puerto Rican from my neighborhood that he's a part of the same "Hispanic culture" or "Hispanic race" as a Mexican, and you're in for a serious smack upside the head. "Asian culture" is a term hated by most actual Asian imigrants I know, because they rigidly subdivide themselves by things like national origin; the Chinese hate being confused with the Japanese who hate being confused with the Vietnamese, and so forth.

The concept of races is artificial, and is not founded on any meaningful biological distinctions..."race" might once have been more relavent because it reflected genuine cultural divisions, but in a country like modern America these divisions no longer apply in the same way. A person with white skin who lives in a slum will find themselves much more a part of "black culture" than a dark-skinned person growing up in Beverly Hills. Socioeconomic status seems to be the most significant cultural divider in America, and it tends to over-rule "racial" divisions. The problem is that our socioeconomic boundaries happen to follow racist lines (for a variety of historical reasons), so this gives the false impression that it is RACE which is the deciding factor.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Yep, white supremacist teenage girl pop stars. The endtimes are truly upon us.

Oh dear, how many times will the backup dancers don KKK uniforms?:p

Oh dear, how many times will the backup dancers don KKK uniforms?:p

just wait till they start makin films like the olsens,they'll go back in time to save hitler.*shudder*

just wait till they start makin films like the olsens,they'll go back in time to save hitler.*shudder*
Mary Kate and Ashley Himmler present:
How The Darkies Almost Ruined Our Summer Vacation!

The worst part is with names like Lynx and Lamb their movies will sell really well since people will think they are pornos.

just wait till they start makin films like the olsens,they'll go back in time to save hitler.*shudder*

Nice, "Escapades in Berlin", I can see it already.

Mary Kate and Ashley Himmler present:
How The Darkies Almost Ruined Our Summer Vacation!
rofl.i give them 5 years before they get swastikas tatooed on their arses and turn into paris and nicole(ie they go to parties all the time and thats it)

rofl.i give them 5 years before they get swastikas tatooed on their arses and turn into paris and nicole(ie they go to parties all the time and thats it)

Give it another 15-20 and they'll run as republican candidates for the presidency......:D

Give it another 15-20 and they'll run as republican candidates for the presidency......:D

I'll vote for the other candidate if they do.

I'll vote for the other candidate if they do.

you and the rest of non-nazi america
Should be a close election
:p

Give it another 15-20 and they'll run as republican candidates for the presidency......:D
Exactly! Let the Republicans think people want this, then when election time comes, the Dems sweep up and the Republicans come out looking like assholes. :p

Evil wheew ... I am curious as to the quality of education they are getting from that dipshit mother

I would not be too amazed if it was rather sub standard ...
(and this a prime example of why their should be strict testing as to what qualifies as an education )

Exactly! Let the Republicans think people want this, then when election time comes, the Dems sweep up and the Republicans come out looking like assholes. :p

Because they look the epitome of effective government at present...:rolleyes:

Evil wheew ... I am curious as to the quality of education they are getting from that dipshit mother

I would not be too amazed if it was rather sub standard ...
(and this a prime example of why their should be strict testing as to what qualifies as an education )
Then we'd have to question the merits of an education received at a (private/public) religious school. After all, they are being indoctrined in some form (much like the girls are)...

Then we'd have to question the merits of an education received at a (private/public) religious school. After all, they are being indoctrined in some form (much like the girls are)...
Absolutely but I have a feeling this goes beyond the standard variation about the mean

Have you actually BEEN to a public school? "The State" can't even be bothered to buy us text books, let alone "indoctrinate" us into anything. :P
Oh, I attend public school alright (NJ).
My gripe is that unless you're taking an Honors/AP-level course, they're pretty much indoctrinating you to an extent...
I could only take A-level World History my frosh year of HS (prerequisite to AP US History), and the teacher pretty much indoctrinated us over the writing of the US Constitution and the US Civil War.

I did some research that confirmed my teacher's BS, and then my AP teacher later tore the rest of my notions about those two events to shreds.

Oh, I attend public school alright (NJ).
My gripe is that unless you're taking an Honors/AP-level course, they're pretty much indoctrinating you to an extent...
I could only take A-level World History my frosh year of HS (prerequisite to AP US History), and the teacher pretty much indoctrinated us over the writing of the US Constitution and the US Civil War.

I did some research that confirmed my teacher's BS, and then my AP teacher later tore the rest of my notions about those two events to shreds.
Huh. I've never had an experience like that. My classes were pretty much focused on teaching us historical facts, and there's enough of those to fill the meager class time we were alotted.

Huh. I've never had an experience like that. My classes were pretty much focused on teaching us historical facts, and there's enough of those to fill the meager class time we were alotted.
I felt as if my first History teacher only taught us the "good" facts about those two events. Because in sophomore year my AP Hist. teacher went into the whole controversy over the Constitution (basically how shocked people were that it was so radically different from the Articles), and all of Lincoln's, I guess you could call them, screw-ups.

I felt as if my first History teacher only taught us the "good" facts about those two events. Because in sophomore year my AP Hist. teacher went into the whole controversy over the Constitution (basically how shocked people were that it was so radically different from the Articles), and all of Lincoln's, I guess you could call them, screw-ups.
Wow, sounds much more interesting (debate-wise) than my school. Closest we came was when some parents bitched about the fact that our freshman history class covered the Trail of Tears.

Wow, sounds much more interesting (debate-wise) than my school. Closest we came was when some parents bitched about the fact that our freshman history class covered the Trail of Tears.

That really should be discussed more. In fact, we should talk more about slavery in our classrooms too. We don't :(

But of course, according to our resident Republicans here, its all good because they also appose gay marriage because it 'shakes the very foundations on which our anglo saxon Christian nation was found upon! can I hear a praise the lord?!"

Racists, homophobes, Misogynists, anti-semites and so on are all at the bottom of societies barrell - one rung below poor white trash.

I felt as if my first History teacher only taught us the "good" facts about those two events. Because in sophomore year my AP Hist. teacher went into the whole controversy over the Constitution (basically how shocked people were that it was so radically different from the Articles), and all of Lincoln's, I guess you could call them, screw-ups.

Dear lord; when I was studying history, the meer mention of New Zealand history was enough to make people in the class violently ill - its as boring as bat shit and normally avoided at all costs; you see, NZ'ders are not a nation of navel glaises, and for most people, learning about ones own history is shit boring - hence, we avoid that nasty topic.

As for what we studied - Elizabeth, James I, Charles I and II, and the English Civil War/Revolution with the different Cromwellian governmental models.

Back to the original topic, what happened with the people who decided to toy with the residents of that forum?

RWANDA :headbang:
Congo too not to mention Adi Imin!
Neither of which were committed by black Americans.:rolleyes:

Neither of which were committed by black Americans.:rolleyes:

My bad I misread the original post.

Back to the original topic, what happened with the people who decided to toy with the residents of that forum?
Waiting for a response! :D I have a whole week of freedom, so I intend to abuse it. Just watch... I'll make my splash. Teehee...

a big black jewish communist cock.
Black and Jewish???:confused:

Nice back up. I just proved that Caucasian is a race and this is what you come back with.

Thanks for playing.
Around here your "proof" would just have shown that the government is racist.

There is no "white" race. There is the Irish race, the German race, the Russian race, etc, but there is no white race.
If there were, then the white race could be defined as the union of all those races. However, race is genetic and not cultural. If there is a russian race, then a person with Russian grandparents, but who is born and brought up in America and monolingual english speaker would be an American and not a Russian.

Back to the original topic, what happened with the people who decided to toy with the residents of that forum?
Like Kryozerkia, I am awaiting a response. I hope that they do not google-search my name (Posi [because my memory isn't good enought o remember two names]). Images like this (http://www.marxists.org/catala/enciclopedia/people/p/posi.gif) may not help in getting approval.

Still no confirmation for me either; I suppose they are a bit suspicious of anyone with "PwnsYou" in the name.

Then take alook on some of your government forms.

Race:

Black, Caucasion, Asian, Indian, Mixed.

Indian is a race:confused:

These twins should never come to India what with us having caucasoids, mongoloids, negroids and australoids in varying mixtures and nobody "pure".

Black and Jewish???:confused:

Ethiopian jews.

There are even "yellow" jews. The Mizo jewish community in Indian north-east state of Mizoram has been accepted as a jewish community and some are even migrating to Israel.

Jews come in all colors.

Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine. German != Prussian. I wonder if they understand that. But I supposed the name is fitting. Prussian blue is a dye that is closely related to cyanide.
"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race." Is she afraid of becoming a mulatto because black people can vote? How cute.
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. This is why I view homeschooling with suspicion. It allows people like these to raise the next generation of hate without any obstacles.
In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand." I'm confused. How does having a swastika as a cattle brand have anything to do with freedom of speech?
Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up." Ah, the man of peace. I think Hitler referred to him as something different when Hess tried to get back on his good side by landing in Britain to work together with someone whom he was convinced was a Nazi sympathizer to convince the King to make peace. "Idiot" and "traitor" come to mind... :p

Yes, nothing better than genetically deprived twins...guess it was an assisted fertility :p

And their german heritage is rooted in their german sheepdog, or what?

Oh, goodness. Their new sister has an even worse name than they do: Dresden...
My oldest, Lynx and Lamb, are now 12 and very aware of the special responsibility they will someday bear in being White women. I also expect that they will help to guide their new baby sister Dresden as she grows and explores the world.

Yes, nothing better than genetically deprived twins...guess it was an assisted fertility :p

And their german heritage is rooted in their german sheepdog, or what?German heritage? She seems to think that "our culture" (white American culture) is just as Irish or Scottish as it is German, as though those were the same thing...:rolleyes:

Well, if you back far enough with any race, you'll theoretically get back to the same group of guys ... won't you?

Well, if you back far enough with any race, you'll theoretically get back to the same group of guys ... won't you?Depends on whom you ask. Some white supremacists are christians and believe that God created the world in six days and there was no evolution. That, to them, means that the "black man" and "white man" are completely separate races or even species, since, in that case, there was no evolution of different skin colors from one "race".
Go figure...:rolleyes:

Black and Jewish???:confused:

Perfectly plausable; there are Ethiopian Jews.

Why are the pretty ones always insane?

German heritage? She seems to think that "our culture" (white American culture) is just as Irish or Scottish as it is German, as though those were the same thing...:rolleyes:

Yep, keep it simple for the morons...:rolleyes:

Guess these two can´t count to twelve without opening their blouses :p

Oh, goodness. Their new sister has an even worse name than they do: Dresden...
The only way these names could be worse is if their mom was a movie star. Damn crazy neo-nazis.

Oh, goodness. Their new sister has an even worse name than they do: Dresden...

Could have been worse...think of Bautzen...or Castrop-Rauxel :p

we're proud of being white...
fair enough...
... and want to keep being white
uhhh..... :rolleyes:

stupid stupid stupid stupid

fair enough...

uhhh..... :rolleyes:

stupid stupid stupid stupid

There's no accounting for bad taste.

There's no accounting for bad taste.
just to clarify - are you refering to their bad taste or mine?

just to clarify - are you refering to their bad taste or mine?
Theirs.

Theirs.
Gotcha - sorry for asking, just checking as sometimes things come across badly on the forums.

we're proud of being white...

fair enough...
... and want to keep being white
uhhh..... :rolleyes:

stupid stupid stupid stupid
What? You haven't heard of the SBPWSASDWPB?
(Sneaky Black People Who Sneak Around Sneakily Dying White People Black)

arghh, how in the hell did this thread get so many pages?

Yes, there exists racist in the united states of america &c. They are not, however, a majority, or even a significant minority: some of them have music.

If this continues I will start a thread about racist music the UK.
Dude, this thread's not so much about racism in the USA as it is about making fun of racists.

Throw 'em in the grinder.

I know it goes against my Libertarian stance, but I'm sort of pissed off right now, so there.

Lol, with a -10.00 for Economics, how the hell are you Libertarian? :confused:

I have one very important question: why is every other culture allowed and even encouraged to preserve their culture except the whites? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Nobody's trying to say white folks can't have their culture. We're just making fun of a couple of teen pop singers who take their culture way too seriously.

The only way these names could be worse is if their mom was a movie star. Damn crazy neo-nazis.
Could have been worse...think of Bautzen...or Castrop-Rauxel :p
I'm pretty sure it all has to do with the symbolic value Dresden has to Neo-Nazi scum. The bombing of it and all...

Oh my gawd! Is it legal to spread such hate messages in the US? I know, they're 13, but their family should be blamed for teaching them that white supremacist crap. But before blaming their family, blame homeschooling.
Totally legal. We have actual freedom of speech. I could, if I wanted to, stand on a street corner and scream about how French people are an unclean, cowardly abomination. BTW, that's just an example. I don't really feel that way about the French. Well, sort of.

Nobody's trying to say white folks can't have their culture. We're just making fun of a couple of teen pop singers who take their culture way too seriously.Their culture? The mom is making sure they go to anything white. Basically, she's being white multicultural, visiting Irish dancing, Highland games, and Oktoberfests. She doesn't seem to have much of a culture of her own, she's just borrowing.

Totally legal. We have actual freedom of speech. I could, if I wanted to, stand on a street corner and scream about how French people are an unclean, cowardly abomination. BTW, that's just an example. I don't really feel that way about the French. Well, sort of.

I think that Europeans are vaguely uncomfortable with the idea that you can do that here.

Lol, with a -10.00 for Economics, how the hell are you Libertarian? :confused:

Originally the term "libertarian" was synonymous with the socialist movement, particularly in the 19th century (and to my knowledge, remains so in Europe). In recent years, it has been stolen from us by liberals like yourself (classic liberals). Many of us still call ourselves "libertarian" unless confusion is going to result.

RWANDA :headbang:
African Americans:headbang:

Congo too not to mention Adi Imin!
see previous post

Oh dear, how many times will the backup dancers don KKK uniforms?:p
Only to tear them off and dance around in sexy outfits.

I think that Europeans are vaguely uncomfortable with the idea that you can do that here.
It's not that. It's just that when you do do that here and everyone wants to hit you for it, which they will if you're spouting racist garbage like that, the Government comes and takes you away before we can, which probably works out better for everyone involved.

You're being arrested to prevent you from being killed. Fair enough? =P

That really should be discussed more. In fact, we should talk more about slavery in our classrooms too. We don't :(
A good friend of mine is a black guy in his 50's. He grew up down south and was never taught about slavery in school. He told me that he didn't find out about it until he came north in his late teens.

Back to the original topic, what happened with the people who decided to toy with the residents of that forum?
They never approved me. I think it had to do with the username I chose.

They never approved me. I think it had to do with the username I chose.
I chose a pretty neutral name and still didn't get in...I mean come on how could naming myself after a fucking volcano point me out at all.

Oh, goodness. Their new sister has an even worse name than they do: Dresden...
Would it be ironic if she caught fire or just funny?

They never approved me. I think it had to do with the username I chose.

What did you choose?

Perfectly plausable; there are Ethiopian Jews.
And Sammy Davis Jr.

What did you choose?
blackstixwhitechix

They haven't approved either of my names yet either.

I heard they have to mod-approve every post so the mods are all busy with that. The irony of the nazi forum going Nazi is not lost on anyone I hope...

They haven't approved either of my names yet either.

I heard they have to mod-approve every post so the mods are all busy with that. The irony of the nazi forum going Nazi is not lost on anyone I hope...
Well they obviously couldn't let anything like...umm history, facts or logic getting into the forum now could they?

Well they obviously couldn't let anything like...umm history, facts or logic getting into the forum now could they?

Facts???

History???

What that?!

Would it be ironic if she caught fire or just funny?If she just caught fire? Ironic. Now if a Brit or Ami dropped a firecracker on her head and she caught fire, then it would be an ironic repetition of history :p (except that Kurt Vonnegut Jr. would need to be hiding under her skirt or something...)

Originally the term "libertarian" was synonymous with the socialist movement, particularly in the 19th century (and to my knowledge, remains so in Europe). In recent years, it has been stolen from us by liberals like yourself (classic liberals). Many of us still call ourselves "libertarian" unless confusion is going to result.
Nope. 'Libertarian socialism' is not related to vanilla 'libertarianism'. Libertarian is in one case an adjective and in the other a noun. And the movements evolved independently on different continents.

Facts???

History???

What that?!

And when it comes to logic...well it's probably best rednecks don't learn how to use that...here's a good example from college humor.

http://www.collegehumor.com/jokes/1603236/

blackstixwhitechix
That's funny, but neutral...considering that they use 'black' as an insult I would not think so.

There is a place with racist hate so intense it would boggle your mind, where whites, blacks, hispanics, amerinds, all sit at differant tables in the chow hall, to the point of standing to eat if none of thier race tables are open. Tattoos procliaming "Brown Pride", "White Pride", "Mau Mau", "Warrior Society", "Border Brothers", are flaunted, challeneges to the others, badges of identity for some. House two members of differant races together, and one will be dead or beaten down by morning. Think Farrakhan's Nation of Islam is extreme? Check out Aztlan, the hispanic superstate that extremists want to carve out of Arizona, New Mexico, lower Caifornia, Nevada, and Colorado, plus the upper half of Mexico, where being white would mean not allowed to vote, hold job, procreate, etc. I have read thier racist hatred right where it lives, right where all this stupifying brew bubbles and spews - prison. These two little girls don't have a clue what racism is, untill they see a black inmate shanked 150 times, simply because he was the first black to come within range of the wanna be Arayan Brotherhood. Or a hispanic inmate beaten down, because he talked to a black inmate. Not only is racism almost institutionalized, the inmates will see to it, that if you even LOOK like you're NOT a racist, you will be beaten, as a warning. Hate is ugly, racial hate is uglier. I despise many people for what they have done - I can't understand hating a man because of the color of his skin.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Yep, white supremacist teenage girl pop stars. The endtimes are truly upon us.

Well...I think you just gave me another great argument against home schooling...

Nope. 'Libertarian socialism' is not related to vanilla 'libertarianism'. Libertarian is in one case an adjective and in the other a noun. And the movements evolved independently on different continents.

Sorry. I maintain that libertarianism was used synonymously with the socialist movement in the 19th century. Back then, "libertarians" (as you know them) certainly existed, but they were part of the liberal-democratic movement. Many of we socialists still do call ourselves libertarians, particularly outside the USA.

Well...I think you just gave me another great argument against home schooling...
Lol I said the same thing a few pages ago

Sorry, but socialists cannot be libertarians. Libertarians favor the most minimal government possible. Socialism is not minimal government.

Lol I said the same thing a few pages agoHah, the homeschooling isn't even the scary part. I find the swastika brand mark a bit overblown...

Sorry, but socialists cannot be libertarians. Libertarians favor the most minimal government possible. Socialism is not minimal government.

No, that's only the definition that was attached to a name in the mid 20th century. Libertarians want maximum liberty, correct? Well it is simply our viewpoint that maximum liberty comes from ending capitalism.

(and I favour minimal government "bottom up" socialism. So there.)

No, that's only the definition that was attached to a name in the mid 20th century. Libertarians want maximum liberty, correct? Well it is simply our viewpoint that maximum liberty comes from ending capitalism.

(and I favour minimal government "bottom up" socialism. So there.)

I don't see how having an economy controlled by the government is liberty. Libertarians favor social and economic freedoms.

Wow.

I'm far from a supporter of nazism or genocide, and I don't agree with their ideas- but I'm amazed at the amount of absolute hatred and threats of violence directed towards two little girls who have been taught unpopular fringe ideas by their parents. Does it make you feel big to spam them with porn? "Take that, little girls with unpopular ideas!!!!" I'm gonna buy their album just to piss off all of you politically correct robots.

I don't see how having an economy controlled by the government is liberty. Libertarians favor social and economic freedoms.

Because we view liberty as impossible when a portion of the population is illiterate, starving, and dying from easily preventable diseases. We view this as the antithesis of freedom.

And don't deny it. This WILL happen under a libertarian state (and is probably an example why one will never come about). It's fine to support an anarchical market, but it is folly to believe that there will not be any consequences. In such a system, not everyone will own a business - this is impossible - and there will be an underclass that suffers due to a lack of public services and minimum wage.

Similarly, most of us also believe that being ordered about by your employer is no different to being ordered about by your government.

Wow.

I'm far from a supporter of nazism or genocide, and I don't agree with their ideas- but I'm amazed at the amount of absolute hatred and threats of violence directed towards two little girls who have been taught unpopular fringe ideas by their parents. Does it make you feel big to spam them with porn? "Take that, little girls with unpopular ideas!!!!" I'm gonna buy their album just to piss off all of you politically correct robots."Unpopular ideas" not to mention stealing the name from heritage they don't really have a claim to... yeah, go buy that album. Show us that it's more important to side with "unpopular ideas".

Wow.

I'm far from a supporter of nazism or genocide, and I don't agree with their ideas- but I'm amazed at the amount of absolute hatred and threats of violence directed towards two little girls who have been taught unpopular fringe ideas by their parents. Does it make you feel big to spam them with porn? "Take that, little girls with unpopular ideas!!!!" I'm gonna buy their album just to piss off all of you politically correct robots.
Who are you calling politically correct? I support their right to say what they want, and I believe in my right to make fun of them. Also to fantasize about them in a few years wearing extremely tight SS type uniforms with very short, black skirts and plunging necklines.

Wow.

I'm far from a supporter of nazism or genocide, and I don't agree with their ideas- but I'm amazed at the amount of absolute hatred and threats of violence directed towards two little girls who have been taught unpopular fringe ideas by their parents. Does it make you feel big to spam them with porn? "Take that, little girls with unpopular ideas!!!!" I'm gonna buy their album just to piss off all of you politically correct robots.

Yea because stickin it to the man is all the rage now :rolleyes:. I agree with the statement that people shouldn't have been bashing the forum as much as it was and the girls do have the right to sing whatever type of song they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. But they have to be aware that they are representing a fringe group whos opinions and views create a knee jerk reaction from others. When I saw people in their forum denying that the holocaust happened my jaw hit the floor. There are people there who still espouse the idea that intellegence is based on genetics and that black people are less intellegent because of this. I mean I would like to go up to these people and beat some sense into them and I guess the forum war was a way people thought they could do so.

Because we view liberty as impossible when a portion of the population is illiterate, starving, and dying from easily preventable diseases. We view this as the antithesis of freedom.

And don't deny it. This WILL happen under a libertarian state (and is probably an example why one will never come about). It's fine to support an anarchical market, but it is folly to believe that there will not be any consequences. In such a system, not everyone will own a business - this is impossible - and there will be an underclass that suffers due to a lack of public services and minimum wage.

Similarly, most of us also believe that being ordered about by your employer is no different to being ordered about by your government.

The thing is though, employers don't have to be listened to. You can always quit, and find a different job. Government has to be listened to. Refusal to comply can get you in jail. Employers, on the other hand, can't imprison you. I personally believe though, that the solution to illiteracy, poverty, starvation, etc. is private charity. I believe everyone has a moral obligation- but not a legal one- to help those less fortunate than themselves.

The thing is though, employers don't have to be listened to. You can always quit, and find a different job. Government has to be listened to. Refusal to comply can get you in jail.

Ha! That's difficult enough to do in a society with unemployment benefits. Don't you guys want to get rid of those? In an anarchical market, refusal to comply with an employer might have you starve to death.

Employers, on the other hand, can't imprison you. I personally believe though, that the solution to illiteracy, poverty, starvation, etc. is private charity. I believe everyone has a moral obligation- but not a legal one- to help those less fortunate than themselves.

Won't work. In a society that rewards selfishness, those who end up with the power to do good won't be the types that are willing to tackle the massive flaws that will result from the system. What benefit is it to them? They could buy a new villa, or something.

Who are you calling politically correct? I support their right to say what they want, and I believe in my right to make fun of them. Also to fantasize about them in a few years wearing extremely tight SS type uniforms with very short, black skirts and plunging necklines.

Heh, with jackboots and a riding crop...

Heh, with jackboots and a riding crop...
You knows it.

You knows it.

Bet they'll be hot when they get older. And probably not as stupid. Usually, teenagers find a way to rebel against their parents' teaching.

Bet they'll be hot when they get older. And probably not as stupid. Usually, teenagers find a way to rebel against their parents' teaching.
Lets hope so

Ha! That's difficult enough to do in a society with unemployment benefits. Don't you guys want to get rid of those? In an anarchical market, refusal to comply with an employer might have you starve to death.



Won't work. In a society that rewards selfishness, those who end up with the power to do good won't be the types that are willing to tackle the massive flaws that will result from the system. What benefit is it to them? They could buy a new villa, or something.

Blah, you win. I don't agree, but you win.

*waves white flag*

Bet they'll be hot when they get older. And probably not as stupid. Usually, teenagers find a way to rebel against their parents' teaching.
Yeah, but it sucks for some of us who had decent parents. However it does make for an interesting misspent youth.

Blah, you win. I don't agree, but you win.

*waves white flag*

Wow. There's a first for everything on this forum. :D

A good friend of mine is a black guy in his 50's. He grew up down south and was never taught about slavery in school. He told me that he didn't find out about it until he came north in his late teens.

That is sad. I do as much studying about it as I can since it is an integral part of our history.

Well...I think you just gave me another great argument against home schooling...

Are you saying that all home schoolers are racist? As a home schooled student, I find that insulting.

Who are you calling politically correct? I support their right to say what they want, and I believe in my right to make fun of them. Also to fantasize about them in a few years wearing extremely tight SS type uniforms with very short, black skirts and plunging necklines.See, DCD, you're just not able to put yourself in the Nazi's shoes. Women have no place anywhere but the home, hearth, or hospital in the classical Nazi's world. The girls probably won't wear uniforms, but the mom's already got them dressed in nice, unrevealing Prussian dresses (the Nazis cracked down on the fledgeling German porn industry too, in their misguided prudery). :D

Are you saying that all home schoolers are racist? As a home schooled student, I find that insulting.No, just that it's an arguement against homeschooling.

See, DCD, you're just not able to put yourself in the Nazi's shoes. Women have no place anywhere but the home, hearth, or hospital in the classical Nazi's world. The girls probably won't wear uniforms, but the mom's already got them dressed in nice, unrevealing Prussian dresses (the Nazis cracked down on the fledgeling German porn industry too, in their misguided prudery). :D
As if I didn't have enough reasons to hate Nazis, now I learn that they set the German porn industry back several years. Only recently have their watersports and scatplay videos recovered.

Hopefully, they grow up to look like this. If they do, then Drunk Commies and I will give them an attitude adjustment they'll never forget... and the next morning...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/dursbagelheimen/sbt_gnv_czs.jpg

You know it's kind of funny in a sick sort of way about these two Nazi chicks. I checked out some of their song lyrics and they're pretty evil in that way. But then again I hate all of humanity so who am I to say (yes I loathe Nazi's). I wonder what their songs actually sound like (if they are good singers or not). I bet MTV won't play them :).

No, just that it's an arguement against homeschooling.

Homeschooling is far more effective than public schools. Most (I repeat, most, not all) people who graduate from public schoolers are as dumb as corpses.

You know it's kind of funny in a sick sort of way about these two Nazi chicks. I checked out some of their song lyrics and they're pretty evil in that way. But then again I hate all of humanity so who am I to say (yes I loathe Nazi's). I wonder what their songs actually sound like (if they are good singers or not). I bet MTV won't play them :).
Then again MTV might. Remember they didn't play any music by black artists until Michael Jackson's Billy Jean video was released. And he's not even black anymore.

Hopefully, they grow up to look like this. If they do, then Drunk Commies and I will give them an attitude adjustment they'll never forget... and the next morning...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/dursbagelheimen/sbt_gnv_czs.jpg
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God Damn! Yeah, I think we could work with that.