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This Canadian dude has just been convicted for possesing comicbooks depicting sexual acts between adults and kids. He's clearly a sick fucker, but how does owning a series of disturbing drawings constitute a crime?

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2005/10/20/1270701-sun.html

Obviously you have never heard of child porn.

That's sick....but nobody is being taken advantage of or hurt by it, so no.

That's sick....but nobody is being taken advantage of or hurt by it, so no.

What he said.

Child porn is illegal primarily because making it involves exploitation of children.

This just involves exploitation of a cartoonist's hand. Different.

I think the real beef they had is that it was imported. Didn't want local childcartoonporn publishers to be threatened by free trade!

Obviously you have never heard of child porn.
I'd heard about it but I always assumed that it would involve children, not ink on paper.

Child porn is illegal primarily because making it involves exploitation of children.

This just involves exploitation of a cartoonist's hand. Different.

I think the real beef they had is that it was imported. Didn't want local childcartoonporn publishers to be threatened by free trade!

1: Yep.

2: Wow, this can sound really freaky and perverted if taken the wrong way. :p

3: LOL!

Well, it's not as though he'll be serving time in a correctional facility. It could have gone far worse for him. This certainly would seem to be a contentious issue, and I find myself wondering whether sampling his DNA and registering him as a sex offender for the next five years is entirely warranted. I think it's obvious that our laws in Canada reflect a pervasive, martial attitude regarding kiddy porn that has come to the fore in the last twenty years, for better or worse.

I'd heard about it but I always assumed that it would involve children, not ink on paper.

Never ass u me anything. :D

Obviously you have never heard of child porn.
Granted, but I believe even the United States Supreme Court ruled cartoon child porn is sick and perverted, but just cartoons.

Isn't that sort of thing pretty common in Japanese manga? I was under the impression that underage schoolgirls made a frequent appearence in those kinds of comic books over there.

Isn't that sort of thing pretty common in Japanese manga? I was under the impression that underage schoolgirls made a frequent appearence in those kinds of comic books over there.
i dont know much about japance cartoon porn but raping babies seems quite far over the line of good taste.

i couldnt tell from the article if this stuff is absolutely against the law in canada or if the prosecutor was being ambitious. the guy took a plea bargain so it never really was tested.

Granted, but I believe even the United States Supreme Court ruled cartoon child porn is sick and perverted, but just cartoons.
Cartoon child porn is sick and perverted.

Problem is there is not enough Justice in this world.

Cartoon child porn is sick and perverted.

Problem is there is not enough Justice in this world.
Alot of things are sick and perverted, but if they don't hurt anyone they shouldn't be illegal.

Sexually explicit comic books, even those containing child porn, are legally sold in both Japan and the United States.

Crown prosecutor Steven Bilodeau said it is the first such case in Canada he knows of and added that although so-called anime containing child porn is not very prevalent here, Canadians need to know it is illegal.

Bilodeau also said new laws, effective Nov. 1, provide for mandatory jail sentences for importing child porn.

Just another confirmation of my growing suspicion that Canada isn't really more liberal than the US, but is more statist.

Cartoon child porn is sick and perverted.

Problem is there is not enough Justice in this world.
Aw, cry more.

Maybe you'd rather have paedophiles wandering around, taking their fantasies out on real kids, instead of letting them release their "needs" through hentai (a media which harms no one except socially conservative egos) depicting sex with children.

This Canadian dude has just been convicted for possesing comicbooks depicting sexual acts between adults and kids. He's clearly a sick fucker, but how does owning a series of disturbing drawings constitute a crime?

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2005/10/20/1270701-sun.html

Bah. It's just Lolicon.

Bah. It's just Lolicon.
WTF is a Lolicon?

WTF is a Lolicon?

Hentai sub-genre that depicts sexual acts with prepubescent girls. (for the male equivalent see Shotacon.)

Theres a Wikipedia article on it....

Hentai sub-genre that depicts sexual acts with prepubescent girls. (for the male equivalent see Shotacon.)

Theres a Wikipedia article on it....
Weird.

Weird.

Not as weird as Guro.

Not as weird as Guro.
Ok, I've got to know. What's a Guro?

OK. I'm pretty libertarian on social issues, but child porn, even in cartoon form, is not something I could tolerate.

Shotacon and Lolitacon are both popular in manga...

Further, it's drawn art. It is done from the artist's imagination most likely and there is no proof that there was any form of sexual exploitation involved. The artist could've very well done research on the internet and found images to work from. There are plenty of Medieval and Renaissance paintings that depict the human form in its purest and knows the boundaries of "taste". The kind of conservatism that saw the clothing of models in paintings came in during the later art eras.

The earlier paintings do have children uncovered...

Ok, I've got to know. What's a Guro?

Mutiliation hentai. Like, people being chopped up and stuff while being raped. And once again, this is all drawn.

Mutiliation hentai. Like, people being chopped up and stuff while being raped. And once again, this is all drawn.
Well that I can understand. It's like S&M porn taken to an extreme that just isn't legal to do with real models.

Didn't Canada just (as in the last 10 years or so)legalize gay porn ?

Not comicbook, manga. They aren't the same thing, you know. Other than that, this is really old news, isn't it? I thought I heard about it before.

Not comicbook, manga. They aren't the same thing, you know. Other than that, this is really old news, isn't it? I thought I heard about it before.

Because thats what really matters isn't it?

Because thats what really matters isn't it?

I mean that manga and comics are not the same thing. To be brutally honest, though, I may not agree with his preferences, but simply possessing manga depicting pædophilia is dangerous in itself.

I'll tell you this much. If I ever meet someone who gets off on little kids, real OR drawn, I swear to god I'd [censored so I don't get banned] with a fucking baseball bat!