NationStates Jolt Archive


Who Do You Want To be President?

One World Nation
22-10-2005, 17:39
Who do you think should be President in '08? And pick at least one person from each party.

Democrat- Hillary Clinton
Republican- John McCain
Other- Ralph Nader
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 17:40
Democrat, Howard Dean
Republican, John McCain
Other, Clint Eastwood
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 17:41
Drunk Commies
Billus
22-10-2005, 17:46
Democrat, Hillary Clinton
Republican, John McCain
Other, Christopher walken
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 17:46
Drunk Commies
Do you really want the next world war to happen in your lifetime?
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 17:46
Democrat, Hillary Clinton
Republican, John McCain
Other, Christopher walken
Good call on Christopher Walken.
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 17:47
Do you really want the next world war to happen in your lifetime?
Yes.
Sonaj
22-10-2005, 17:48
Do you really want the next world war to happen in your lifetime?
Why not? Makes it exciting! Well, not for me, I'll just starve and be called a traitor 'cause the only way we can avoid being slaughtered is being neutral and sell stuff to both sides. But still, fun!
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 17:48
Ron Paul, I want him....to be president that is.
Potaria
22-10-2005, 17:49
Nobody. The position places far too much power in the hands of an often incapable person.
Sonaj
22-10-2005, 17:50
Good call on Christopher Walken.
Yes, this world needs more cowbell! (http://homepage.mac.com/kellydean/Music/iMovieTheater34.html)

For president:

Republican: None
Democrat: Even fewer
Other: Ralph Nader or Göran Persson
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 17:51
Nobody. The position places far too much power in the hands of an often incapable person.
If he appoints a good cabinet he won't be incapable.
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 17:52
If he appoints a good cabinet he won't be incapable.
Yes, but if ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. Cronyism is still alive and doing moderatly well.
Ashmoria
22-10-2005, 17:53
bill richardson--current governor of new mexico

john mccain -- if it HAD to be a republican

i wouldnt want a 3rd party president.
Selgin
22-10-2005, 17:56
Republican: Bill Owens - Colorado governor, passed successful taxpayer bill of rights (TABOR)
Democrat: Bill Richardson - has reasonable economic views, strong on immigration (recently declared state of emergency on the border).
Soheran
22-10-2005, 17:57
Democratic Party: Anyone from the Progressive Caucus, McKinney, Conyers, and Lee being top choices.
Republican Party: Connie Morella.
Green: Endorse the Democrat.
Other: Pat Buchanan (to divide the social conservative vote), Michael Badnarik (to divide the economic conservative vote.)
Fass
22-10-2005, 17:58
The position as head of state is taken by Carl Gustaf Folke Hubertus Bernadotte for longer than '08, unfortunately. If things go as I hope they do, we'll abolish the position completely in a not too distant future. We'll see Victoria Ingrid Alice Désirée Bernadotte there before that, though.
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 17:59
Democrat; Al Sharpton
Republican: Jeb Bush
Other; Tony Blair.
:D
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 17:59
The position as head of state is taken by Carl Gustaf Folke Hubertus Bernadotte for longer than '08, unfortunately. If things go as I hope they do, we'll abolish the position completely in a not too distant future. We'll see Victoria Ingrid Alice Désirée Bernadotte there before that, though.
Why do people in Sweden have so many names?
Fass
22-10-2005, 18:01
Why do people in Sweden have so many names?

I only have two, most have three. That's not too uncommon, is it? The Royals are more equal than others, remember, so they have more names.
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 18:01
Republican:
Democrat: Bill Richardson - has reasonable economic views, strong on immigration (recently declared state of emergency on the border).

He only did that to get more Federal money.
Mount Arhat
22-10-2005, 18:02
Howard Dean is who I would want as president. The Republicans are immoral power hungry white christian party who want to remake the world in their image. Soo I would pretty much vote for anyone but a Republican.
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 18:06
I only have two, most have three. That's not too uncommon, is it? The Royals are more equal than others, remember, so they have more names.
Ok, I get it. Inbred monarchs get extra monikers.
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 18:06
Who do you think should be President in '08? And pick at least one person from each party.

On a serious note;
Democrat; I'd like to see a real moderate Democrat run, perhaps Richardson. I do not believe Hillary is a moderate.
Republican: I'd like to see Powell or Rice run, but I don't think the will.
Other: None.
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 18:06
Howard Dean is who I would want as president. The Republicans are immoral power hungry white christian party who want to remake the world in their image. Soo I would pretty much vote for anyone but a Republican.
What's wrong with being white?
One World Nation
22-10-2005, 18:07
Howard Dean is who I would want as president. The Republicans are immoral power hungry white christian party who want to remake the world in their image. Soo I would pretty much vote for anyone but a Republican.

True, but there are some good hearted moderate Republicans like Former Mayor Guliani and Senator John McCain who are trying to turn the tide of religious fanatics in their party.
Eichen
22-10-2005, 18:08
Rep: Ron Paul
Dem: Hahahahaha. Yeah, right.
Other: Michael Badnarik
Xenophobialand
22-10-2005, 18:08
Democrat: Anybody but someone out of the DLC.
Republican: McCain if I had too. I don't like many of his policies, but he's the last honest man in Washington left on either side of the aisle.

Top Vote: Ralph Nader. I am never again going to settle for a candidate on the basis that he's better than the Republican nod.
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 18:08
Howard Dean is who I would want as president. The Republicans are immoral power hungry white christian party who want to remake the world in their image. Soo I would pretty much vote for anyone but a Republican.

So, you admit to being a "yellow dog Democrat." Congradulations, not many people would admit that. My father was one. :(
The blessed Chris
22-10-2005, 18:12
Personally, I would like to see Michael Moore as President, to ensure he sees quite how irritaing it is having a socialist moron blaming him for all and sundrie of the world's problems.
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 18:17
Personally, I would like to see Michael Moore as President, to ensure he sees quite how irritaing it is having a socialist moron blaming him for all and sundrie of the world's problems.
Annie Coulter would have to be vice president.
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 18:17
Personally, I would like to see Michael Moore as President, to ensure he sees quite how irritaing it is having a socialist moron blaming him for all and sundrie of the world's problems.
Think of the expense of feeding him, replacing the seats on Air Force One with extra wide chairs, and scrapping Marine One because no helicopter has that much cargo capacity.
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 18:18
Annie Coulter would have to be vice president.
Think of the expense of fighting all those wars when she insults the leaders and citizens of every country on earth.
Fass
22-10-2005, 18:21
Ok, I get it. Inbred monarchs get extra monikers.

Those most inbred don't even know what their names are. Case in point: Queen Elizabeth II. Her last name is a genealogical enigma.
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 18:23
Think of the expense of fighting all those wars when she insults the leaders and citizens of every country on earth.
Nothing would happen. Mikey and Annie would be fighting all the time. There would be any time for either one to fuck-up anything. Then there would be the make-up sex, but that's a whole nother thread.
Drunk commies deleted
22-10-2005, 18:24
Nothing would happen. Mikey and Annie would be fighting all the time. There would be any time for either one to fuck-up anything. Then there would be the make-up sex, but that's a whole nother thread.
And 9 months after the make-up sex comes the birth of the antichrist.
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 18:27
And 9 months after the make-up sex comes the birth of the antichrist.
By then we will have had our Glorious Revolution, so no need to worry.
Khallayne
22-10-2005, 18:43
Michael Moore and Ann Coulter would tear each other apart... Then we would have to pick another President ALL OVER agian!
The South Islands
22-10-2005, 18:44
Michael Moore and Ann Coulter would tear each other apart... Then we would have to pick another President ALL OVER agian!

What if they had sex and concieved a child?

I wonder how that would work...:p
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 18:48
Annie Coulter would have to be vice president.

That would be one hell of a ticket. :D
Silifi
22-10-2005, 18:49
Democrat: Wesley Clark
Republican: John McCain
Other: Oprah Winfrey
Celtlund
22-10-2005, 18:54
What if they had sex and concieved a child?

I wonder how that would work...:p

Talk about one screwed up kid. :eek: I guess politically the kid would be a far left wing socialist conservative right wing Nazi repubadem with a split personality. :D
Neo Kervoskia
22-10-2005, 19:01
Talk about one screwed up kid. :eek: I guess politically the kid would be a far left wing socialist conservative right wing Nazi repubadem with a split personality. :D
You mean a Falconist?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
22-10-2005, 19:18
Republican: Jesus (and not the original pacifistic Jesus, or the New Age, Black, Long Haired, Earth in the Balance Jesus, the (almost) old school perversion of religion for power Crusader Jesus) Watch out Universe, we gots the Jesus Magick, and our Bible-Mobile is going to roll out all over you heathens.
Democrat: There is obviously only one choice, James "Brown Envelope" Traficant (http://www.freetraficant.com/). Think about it:

He is already in jail for corruption (so there can be no arguments over him being bought by any group, just look in the court transcripts),
He has the hair (which can serve as a personal advisor, should you feel that one man isn't enough for the job),
And he once said: "I will grab a sword like Maximus Meridius Demidius and as a Gladiator I will stab people in the crotch." I'd say that statement sums up an opinion on Capitol Punishment, Gay Marriage, Registration of Weapons, Contraception, and Military Spending.

Other: Read my lips: James FUCKING Traficant.
Blu-tac
22-10-2005, 19:37
Democrat: Hillary Clinton
Republican: Bill Frist
Other(Decesed Party): Ronald Reagan.
One World Nation
22-10-2005, 19:42
Evil Bump!
Non-violent Adults
22-10-2005, 19:50
I'd prefer to not have a president, but if I can't have that:

Republican - Ron Paul
Democrat - {Ø}
Other - Michael Badnarik (Libertarian Party)
Non-violent Adults
22-10-2005, 19:53
Democratic Party: Anyone from the Progressive Caucus, McKinney, Conyers, and Lee being top choices.
Republican Party: Connie Morella.
Green: Endorse the Democrat.
Other: Pat Buchanan (to divide the social conservative vote), Michael Badnarik (to divide the economic conservative vote.)WHO DO YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT?
Non-violent Adults
22-10-2005, 19:57
That would be one hell of a ticket. :D
...the key word being HELL:eek:
The Helghan Empire
22-10-2005, 20:48
I will f**king shoot myself if Hilary Clinton becomes president.
Eichen
22-10-2005, 21:18
I'd prefer to not have a president, but if I can't have that:

Republican - Ron Paul
Democrat - {Ø}
Other - Michael Badnarik (Libertarian Party)
We have the same exact list. Why are you posting with this name BC with such a low post count (you're no noob)? I can't see you getting totally banned...
Spartiala
22-10-2005, 21:44
Democrat: John F Kennedy. Yes I know he's dead. That's the point.
Republican: Stockwell Day
Other: Melkor Unchained
Good Lifes
23-10-2005, 00:51
McCain
Powell
ROBERT Kerry (former Gov of Nebr., former senator, Congressional Medal of Honor winner)

Of course we found out in the last election, if you actually got shot at you are chicken defication. If you send others to get shot at, you are a war hero. American voters get the evil they deserve.
The Nazz
23-10-2005, 00:57
I will f**king shoot myself if Hilary Clinton becomes president.
Careful--someone (not me) might hold you to that.
Khallayne
23-10-2005, 01:57
Hillary for Prez!
Hillary for Prez!

Lets bring turn back the clock to a time in which there was a functioning economy, a working government, and the worst thing was lying about the Afternoon Intern "Activities".
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-10-2005, 02:04
Hillary for Prez!
Hillary for Prez!

Lets bring turn back the clock to a time in which there was a functioning economy, a working government, and the worst thing was lying about the Afternoon Intern "Activities".
Damn straight, because if there is one thing I learned from my "polytikle curses" that I ordered off of the back of a swedish cereal box, it is that the sole defining feature of a president is their last name.
Sure, other things (like honesty, respectability, not being the Bitch Queen of the Undead) might factor in on the peripherals, but the last name is what seals it.
CthulhuFhtagn
23-10-2005, 02:06
Democrat - I don't care
Republican - I don't care
Other - Cthulhu
Undelia
23-10-2005, 02:14
Republican- Ron Paul
Democrat- Joe Lieberman
Other- Kinky Friedman:p
Sick Nightmares
23-10-2005, 02:21
I will f**king shoot myself if Hilary Clinton becomes president.
amen
CthulhuFhtagn
23-10-2005, 03:30
amen
I'll hold you to that.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-10-2005, 03:33
I'll hold you to that.
Then can you also start moving our newsies out of the country. Bush has been president for 5 years, and the promised mass exodus has yet to occur.
Vetalia
23-10-2005, 03:35
Democrat - I don't care
Republican - I don't care
Other - Cthulhu

Cthulhu/Yogsoggoth '08. That's a ticket for 21st century America!
Super-power
23-10-2005, 03:39
Democrat - Ben Nelson
Republican - Ron Paul
Libertarian - Michael Badnarik if his Congressional bid fails
Other- Kinky Friedman
YES! XD
CthulhuFhtagn
23-10-2005, 03:40
Then can you also start moving our newsies out of the country. Bush has been president for 5 years, and the promised mass exodus has yet to occur.
I hold them to that. I don't force them to do it, I just call them liars. Then I laugh at them. But since I've already done it, there's no point in doing it again.
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 03:41
Democrat: Howard Dean
Republican: John McCain
Independent: Christopher Walken

http://www.walken2008.com/index.html

(yeah, I know it's a joke ... but sweeeeet ... imagine the State of the Union addresses!)
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 03:42
Other- Kinky Friedman:p

HOORAY!! KINKY! KINKY! KINKY!

w00T!

(see sig)
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 03:44
Republican: Jesus

I'll give you that one. He does such a nice job on my lawn that I could not imagine him not being able to do the same for my country. Jesus Gonzales '08!!
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 03:44
Howard Dean is who I would want as president. The Republicans are immoral power hungry white christian party who want to remake the world in their image. Soo I would pretty much vote for anyone but a Republican.

Howard Dean wouldn't have a prayer to win it.

My Choices:

Republican: A moderate
Dem: A Moderate would be nice
Other: Don't know
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 03:45
Howard Dean wouldn't have a prayer to win it.

Well that's the point of the fantasy draft, isn't it? ;)

Republican: A moderate
Dem: A Moderate would be nice


You sure those actually exist, or have they gone the way of the Unicorn?
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 03:48
I will f**king shoot myself if Hilary Clinton becomes president.

If she becomes President, I don't see her lasting the full term. Two things will happen.

She'll get assassinated (not good) or impeached (again not good but preferable to the assassination)
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 03:49
Hillary for Prez!
Hillary for Prez!

Lets bring turn back the clock to a time in which there was a functioning economy, a working government, and the worst thing was lying about the Afternoon Intern "Activities".

The Economy is fuctioning so this is an incorrect statement already.
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 03:51
Well that's the point of the fantasy draft, isn't it? ;)

So true but I do like to stay realistic! LOL

You sure those actually exist, or have they gone the way of the Unicorn?

They are around. You just have to look for them.
The Helghan Empire
23-10-2005, 03:53
Careful--someone (not me) might hold you to that.
It's better than living in a country she will lead.
Or maybe if I don't feel like shootin' myself, then I will lead the anti-Hilary Clinton coalition. Too many people hater her and I don't blame them. If she becomes pres. our voice (against her) will be heard.
Vetalia
23-10-2005, 03:54
The Economy is fuctioning so this is an incorrect statement already.

Absolutely. Don't forget that those halcyon "Clinton days" masked hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud and corruption, cost us several hundred thousand jobs, ruined no fewer than three major Fortune 500 companies and cost trillions in stock market losses.


Don't even get started on the dot-com bubble...
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 03:54
It's better than living in a country she will lead.
Or maybe if I don't feel like shootin' myself, then I will lead the anti-Hilary Clinton coalition. Too many people hater her and I don't blame them. If she becomes pres. our voice (against her) will be heard.

I'll join the coalition. I don't want to think what she'll do to the military. *shudders*
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 04:58
They are around. You just have to look for them.


You expect too much out of a lazy, lazy country. :D
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 05:08
You expect too much out of a lazy, lazy country. :D

HAHA! I know. I can dream can I? Isn't that why the thread is called who do YOU want to be president? I would like a moderate and I don't care what party its from. Provided they don't hack the US Military or intel budgets :D
The Chinese Republics
23-10-2005, 05:31
I wish my country is a lazy lazy country.

Feed me people :D
Celtlund
23-10-2005, 05:36
For all the Hillary lovers out there, here is a place to get some hats and shirts.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/191133
:D
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 05:38
For all the Hillary lovers out there, here is a place to get some hats and shirts.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/191133
:D

Now that is really funny. I can go to bed now! LOL
The Chinese Republics
23-10-2005, 05:41
For all the Hillary lovers out there, here is a place to get some hats and shirts.
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/191133
:DClinton the commie, uh that doesn't make sense. The US Democrat aren't lefties but they're right-of-centre.
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 05:44
Clinton the commie, uh that doesn't make sense. The US Democrat aren't lefties but they're right-of-centre.

To most Americans, the liberal wing of the democratic party are commies :D

Why do you think they can't win a major election anymore? :D
Krakatao
23-10-2005, 05:44
Clinton the commie, uh that doesn't make sense. The US Democrat aren't lefties but they're right-of-centre.
It's called 'baiting' (on that site).
Celtlund
23-10-2005, 05:47
Clinton the commie, uh that doesn't make sense. The US Democrat aren't lefties but they're right-of-centre.

Obviously you do not live in the US.
Keruvalia
23-10-2005, 06:06
HAHA! I know. I can dream can I?

NO! The only dream you're allowed to have is of a Bush dynasty. Any other dream forfeits your right to vote.

Ok ok ok ... I'm being extremist .... or am I?

Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnn.

Anyway ... moderates would be great. I, a pinko-tree-hugging-liberal-leftist-bleeding-heart Independant, could actually be happy with an actual, honest to God, moderate.
Liverbreath
23-10-2005, 06:42
Clinton the commie, uh that doesn't make sense. The US Democrat aren't lefties but they're right-of-centre.

Actually Hillary Clinton's association with CPUSA dates all the way back to 1965, much of which is a matter of public record and continued well into her co presidency when she established her illegal "closed door health care task force", for the purpose of nationalizing heath care. Of course the strongest linkage to her Leninist background is her employment and tutorage by Robert Treuhaft, a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and Harvard-trained lawyer for the party.
You are correct in that US Democrats are not leftists for the most part. Unfortunately, a portion of their elected representatives are, and this is the direct cause of the unfolding demise of the democratic party.
Forumwalker
23-10-2005, 08:21
Democrats: Howard Dean, Bill Richardson
Republicans: John McCain
Independants: Christopher Walken, Ralph Nader
One World Nation
23-10-2005, 14:28
snip

I can't believe that you bought into this worthless Republican Smear-Myth that was created to destroy the Clinton's whom the GOP HATED and refused to work with to do ANYTHING that might help the American People.

You know what?

I think we SHOULD Nationalize Healthcare, Canada has nationalized Healthcare and they don't HALF as much as we do on our healthcare insurance and bills and they have better QUALITY care too so maybe, just MAYBE the Communists were on to something (at least with Healthcare).
Bottle
23-10-2005, 14:35
Democrat: Howard Dean, I guess. I don't agree with him on a bunch of stuff, but at least he's interesting to watch. Reid is worth looking at, too, though I don't think they'll run him.

If the Dems run Hillary I will vote Republican even if the GOP reanimates Nixon's corpse and runs him. Well, but I guess that's a no-brainer, because Zombie Nixon would probably be pretty badass.


Republican: None. Any politician with a shred of dignity should bail on that party entirely. Conservative politicians need to wake the hell up and realize that the GOP is spitting on conservative values at every opportunity. "Republican" now means nothing beyond "I hate abortion, stem cells, uppity women, gays, brown people, and the poor." That's not conservative values, that's a bunch of rich white dudes throwing a tantrum.


Independent: Henry Rollins. Who better to run The Corporate States Of America than a dude with a barcode tattooed on the back of his neck?
Barvinia
23-10-2005, 15:11
Who should be Presdint?


ME! The only sane, logical and just choice.


Vote for Robert Sager of the Peace and Justice Party in 2008!
Compadria
23-10-2005, 15:13
Democrat: Russ Feingold (one of only 4 true liberals in the Senate).
Republican: Tom Coburn (so no-one and I truly mean no-one, will ever vote Republican ever again).
Other: David Cobb (decent chap, agree with most of his views, like to see someone else have a go at the presidency).
Arnburg
23-10-2005, 15:47
Who should be Presdint?


ME! The only sane, logical and just choice.


Vote for Robert Sager of the Peace and Justice Party in 2008!


Absolutely! That's who I voted for in the last election. And I will be voting for him again in 2008. A truely compasionate and genuine human being. Without a doubt, one of the greatest candidates in world history ever to run for office.
Compadria
23-10-2005, 17:32
*Bump*
MostlyFreeTrade
23-10-2005, 18:06
Democrat - Barack Obama
Republican - John McCain
Other - John Stewart (yes, I know, this is impossible - but it would sure be fun)
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 18:09
Democrat - Barack Obama
Republican - John McCain
Other - John Stewart (yes, I know, this is impossible - but it would sure be fun)

How old is Barack Obama? I know he's at least 30 since he's in the US Senate.
Neo Kervoskia
23-10-2005, 18:13
What happened to good ol' family values?
I vote for the Prophet Muhammed pbuh.
Celtlund
23-10-2005, 18:23
Republican: Tom Coburn (so no-one and I truly mean no-one, will ever vote Republican ever again).

Why don't you like Dr. Coburn? Have you ever met him? Have you ever read his book?
Compadria
23-10-2005, 18:48
The good doctor Coburn is not particularly high on my list of "politicians I like", for many, many reasons. I'll give some of them here:

1). The HIV prevention act of 1997, a nasty little 'rider' piece of legislation attached to a bill on Social Security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_Prevention_Act_of_1997

Nasty, intrusive and utterly against patient and civil privacy and confidentiality.

2). He claims to be pro-life, yet admitted that he had performed two abortions "because of the obligations of the Hypocratic Oath" (the women in question had heart disease). Fine, you might think, except the good Dr. Coburn opposes rape victims being permitted to have an abortion, a view he justifies by stating that his grandmother was once raped by a sheriff :confused: (How exactly does that work in his favour?).

3). He has admitted that he sterilised several women without written consent when he was a medical practitioner.

4). The "There's no hard evidence to support Global Warming" (really, what's happening to all those ice sheets then?)

5). "The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power ... That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That's a gay agenda."

:confused: :eek:

He also claimed lesbianism was so rampant, that in some schools "they only let one girl go to the bathroom at a time".

???

6). During Judge John Robert's confirmation hearings, he asked Judge Roberts to comment on the contentious statement. "The opposite of being dead is alive".

7). He condemmed NBC for airing a film containing (his words) "irresponsible sexual behaviour, that NBC had taken television to "an all-time low, with full-frontal nudity, violence and profanity" and that the broadcast would outrage parents and decent minded people everywhere.

The film was Schindlers List.

Oh and finally, my personal favourite:

8). "If I wanted to buy a bazooka to use...., to do something, I ought to be able to do that."

Now to be honest, I view a person holding such views as either:

a). A nasty piece of work.

or

b). Bats**t insane.

I'm inclined towards both to be honest.
Celtlund
23-10-2005, 19:02
The good doctor Coburn is not particularly high on my list of "politicians I like", for many, many reasons. I'll give some of them here:

BIG Snip

You obviously do not know Dr. Coburn very well; you have taken some things out of context, and listened to the distortions of his opponents on others. You really should get to know him better. Try reading his book for a starter.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000685KPG/qid=1130090453/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3695838-8314436?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-10-2005, 19:02
1). The HIV prevention act of 1997, a nasty little 'rider' piece of legislation attached to a bill on Social Security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_Prevention_Act_of_1997

Nasty, intrusive and utterly against patient and civil privacy and confidentiality.
I see nothing wrong with it (Okay, so the rape one is too much, and the funeral home one is...weird), but, yes, I think that if my adoptive child, marital partner, or doctor had HIV, I might like to know, thank you very much)
2). He claims to be pro-life, yet admitted that he had performed two abortions "because of the obligations of the Hypocratic Oath" (the women in question had heart disease). Fine, you might think, except the good Dr. Coburn opposes rape victims being permitted to have an abortion, a view he justifies by stating that his grandmother was once raped by a sheriff :confused: (How exactly does that work in his favour?).
I believe that it is supposed to show consistency. If I say that all people with brown hair should be shot, and then shoot my brown haired brother, I may be insane, but I am consistent and nonhypocritical.
3). He has admitted that he sterilised several women without written consent when he was a medical practitioner.
Okay, I think I can see the craziness now.
4). The "There's no hard evidence to support Global Warming" (really, what's happening to all those ice sheets then?)
On the one hand, if he was refering to human involvement, I think he is right. If he is denying that anything is happening, though, I think I see more craziness.
5). "The gay community has infiltrated the very centers of power in every area across this country, and they wield extreme power ... That agenda is the greatest threat to our freedom that we face today. Why do you think we see the rationalization for abortion and multiple sexual partners? That's a gay agenda."
This is true, I read it on the Interweb. Gays have developed a quarantine program to make all heterosexuals get stuck in one huge soap operaesque mega Polygymy relationship. Then they'll unleash AIDS v2.1 on that relationship and kill all of the heterosexuals, but also the bisexuals who were lying and secretly slipping into the heterosexual orgies.
Now you've read it on the Interweb, so you know that it is true too.
:confused: :eek:

He also claimed lesbianism was so rampant, that in some schools "they only let one girl go to the bathroom at a time".
Oh those slutty 4th graders, will they ever learn?
Actually, I think that some schools have done this out of paranoia because of cheating and drug dealing, or something.
6). During Judge John Robert's confirmation hearings, he asked Judge Roberts to comment on the contentious statement. "The opposite of being dead is alive".
Hmm... I know, the answer is "A Duck Wearing a Hat!"
7). He condemmed NBC for airing a film containing (his words) "irresponsible sexual behaviour, that NBC had taken television to "an all-time low, with full-frontal nudity, violence and profanity" and that the broadcast would outrage parents and decent minded people everywhere.

The film was Schindlers List.
Oh I know exactly what he was talking about, all those slutty corpses. Horrible, horrible smut. (<---Note, this is Sarcasm. I have never beaten off to Schindler's List, never in my life!)
Now to be honest, I view a person holding such views as either:
Some of it isn't so bad, the man has a certain amount of reason and consistency couched in his nuttiness.
I think I like him, He can edge out Jesus as the GOP opposition for James Traficant.
Swimmingpool
23-10-2005, 19:04
Nobody. The position places far too much power in the hands of an often incapable person.
I vote Potaria.
Potaria
23-10-2005, 19:11
I vote Potaria.

*hands you some special brownies*

On that note, if I actually did somehow become President/Prime Minister, I'd completely reform the government and resign. That position holds far too much power in this day and age... It's very dangerous.
One World Nation
23-10-2005, 19:16
I would (upon gaining the presidency) declare myself God-Emperor of America, have the Supreme Court and the Senate executed, declare martial law, and invade Canada, make all Canadian's slaves in my new Imperium of the World...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 19:19
I would (upon gaining the presidency) declare myself God-Emperor of America, have the Supreme Court and the Senate executed, declare martial law, and invade Canada, make all Canadian's slaves in my new Imperium of the World...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:sniper:

Your a dead man if you did that
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
23-10-2005, 19:19
I would (upon gaining the presidency) declare myself God-Emperor of America, have the Supreme Court and the Senate executed, declare martial law, and invade Canada, make all Canadian's slaves in my new Imperium of the World...

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Hmm, I think I could support that, under three conditions:
1) You Force the conquered Canada to change its name to America's Hat, and you force them to rewrite all of their histroy so that the name America's hat is used to refer to them from 1900 on.
2) You completely destroy Portugal, completely. Kill all the people, and sink it beneath the ocean. They've had it coming for so long.
3) You make James Traficant your lieutenant.
Swimmingpool
23-10-2005, 19:19
You obviously do not know Dr. Coburn very well; you have taken some things out of context, and listened to the distortions of his opponents on others. You really should get to know him better. Try reading his book for a starter.
Some of them are really nutty. It's hard to imagine them in a reasonable context. Especially #5. I bet you voted for him, didn't you?
Potaria
23-10-2005, 19:20
:sniper:

Your a dead man if you did that

Exactly, because I would declare Martian Law and beat him senseless with a wooden bat.
Potaria
23-10-2005, 19:22
Some of them are really nutty. It's hard to imagine them in a reasonable context. Especially #5. I bet you voted for him, didn't you?

He's probably just going to beat around the bush and never really answer your question. Afterall, this is the guy who lashed out against black people being "racist towards whites" in the thread about the neo-nazi pop singer twins. And this was loooong before he said anything bad about them, the topic of discussion.
Corneliu
23-10-2005, 19:22
Exactly, because I would declare Martian Law and beat him senseless with a wooden bat.

You want help? Can I be your torturer? :D
Swimmingpool
23-10-2005, 19:31
Afterall, this is the guy who lashed out against black people being "racist towards whites" in the thread about the neo-nazi pop singer twins. And this was loooong before he said anything bad about them, the topic of discussion.
Yeah, Celtlund really is the worst case of a right-wing extremist masquerading as a moderate that I have ever seen here.

To most Americans, the liberal wing of the democratic party are commies :D

Why do you think they can't win a major election anymore? :D
Then most Americans are stupid. Just like all of the people who think that Republicans are Nazis (a similarly foolish comparison), who I am glad to say are not in a majority anywhere.

Obviously you do not live in the US.
Thank God for that.


You are correct in that US Democrats are not leftists for the most part. Unfortunately, a portion of their elected representatives are, and this is the direct cause of the unfolding demise of the democratic party.
So I see McCarthyism still rules from beyond the grave in America.

To all self-proclaimed Republicans: if you think that party is for small government, then you are a fool.
Commander-Salamander
23-10-2005, 20:43
nevermind all of that, jimi hendrix should be president. i dont see anything stoping him.
MostlyFreeTrade
23-10-2005, 23:40
How old is Barack Obama? I know he's at least 30 since he's in the US Senate.

He's either 42 or 43, I believe he's 43. He won't run until 2012 at least though, he would get slammed like Edwards (who was, by the way, in his 50s) for being 'inexperienced'. Too bad...
Neon Plaid
24-10-2005, 02:44
Democrat- Joe Biden
Republican- John McCain, I guess, if I had to pick one
Other- Jello Biafra (gotta love anyone who came in 4th place out of 10 candidates in a mayoral election running on a satirical platform, and who's slogan was "There's always room for Jello")
Greill
24-10-2005, 02:50
Republican- George Allen
Democrat- Joe Lieberman
Other- Michael Badnarik
Lotus Puppy
24-10-2005, 03:20
Democrat- Gov. Bill Richardson
Republican- Newt Gingrich
Independent/other- Tom Galisano
Lotus Puppy
24-10-2005, 03:24
I've seen a lot of Christopher Walken on here. Is this some sort of joke, or are there really whispers about him? If he ever does become president, I hope he doesn't spend his spare time as Max Zorin.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
24-10-2005, 03:46
Exactly, because I would declare Martian Law and beat him senseless with a wooden bat.

Um...never heard of martian law. What are the rules of law that the little green men wish to share with us?


Republican- John McCain
Democrat- Joe Lieberman
Libertarian- Carla Howel
Americai
24-10-2005, 08:52
Other: Ralph Nader
Republican: John McCain
Democrat: Anthony Zinny
Potaria
24-10-2005, 08:54
Um...never heard of martian law. What are the rules of law that the little green men wish to share with us?

It's an inside joke, man. Do a search for Harry Goz.
Harlesburg
24-10-2005, 08:59
Jack Johnson or John Jackson their ideologies are so difficult to choose between.
One World Nation
24-10-2005, 22:37
Think Sealab 2021 in order to understand "Martian Law"...;)