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The following are actual statements made by Conservatives I've known online.

"Bush is a Socialist."
"China and North Korea don't seem to have any problems with terrorism. Why don't we ask them for advice?"
"Wiccans aren't pagans; they're frauds and environmentalist lesbians."
"The mainstream media is all Liberally-biased. For example... ...C-SPAN..."
"Leftist - Someone who believes public opinions is superior to rights."
"30,000 troops is all we need. This would be bloodier for the Iraqi people...but we could achieve our strategic goals with far less troops in Iraq."
"I could rule the world (minus China, Russia, Germany, the UK, Canada, and Australia) with 15,000 properly trained armed men on each major continent."
"99.99% Of Geniuses Are Christians."
"All the money America spends on aids research, don't people know how to cure it?????? Yes, we do. It is called using a condom to protect against it. Eventually it would die off."
"We need a new system in which everything is centered around marriage."
"We can't blame Liberals 100% of the time."

And this is just a short list mostly over the past few minutes.

Questions, anyone?

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"The mainstream media is all Liberally-biased. For example... ...C-SPAN..."
At least they didn't cite Fox as an example of a liberal mouthpiece.

At least they didn't cite Fox as an example of a liberal mouthpiece.
Someone enumerated a list of "liberal" medias. And on the list, they cited C-SPAN, hahahahaha.

So, I had to ask: "What? They're Liberally-biased because shooting live footage of Republicans makes Conservatives look bad?"

At least they didn't cite Fox as an example of a liberal mouthpiece.
Well, if Fox were ever to take an unlikely editorial stance running contrary to Bush dogma, I'm sure the sense of betrayal would damn Fox for seven generations, at least.

Or until the next ad break, y'know, whichever comes first.

"All the money America spends on aids research, don't people know how to cure it?????? Yes, we do. It is called using a condom to protect against it. Eventually it would die off."



That doesn't sound like a conservative. At all.

"FDR was a fascist."
"Socialism is authoritarian."
"America was founded as a Christian country."
"There is freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion. That is because that would be discrimination against religion, which is against the 1st Amendment, <snip>..."

"FDR was a fascist."
"Socialism is authoritarian."
"America was founded as a Christian country."
"There is freedom of religion, but not freedom from religion. That is because that would be discrimination against religion, which is against the 1st Amendment, <snip>..."

Proper socialism is authoritarian. Thats how it works. It's called collective action.

Technecly, America was founded as Christian, but that was in the 1600's while the US was still colonies. Plus, they needed a strong institution to help the governments.

Is there an "Idiotic Quotes from Liberals" thread? Who'd want to look like a biased liberal sob anyway?

Guys. I have a new one to add to the list.

Technecly, America was founded as Christian, but that was in the 1600's while the US was still colonies.

To quote John Stuart Mill, "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are Conservative."

Proper socialism is authoritarian. Thats how it works. It's called collective action.

Proper capitalism is totalitarian. That's how it works. It's called selling your soul to your boss.

"canada will colapice in 5 years"

The following are actual statements made by Conservatives I've known online.


I've seen defenders of all idologies make all sorts of stupid comments over the years. Why focus in on consevratives?

Proper capitalism is totalitarian. That's how it works. It's called selling your soul to your boss.

I don't know if I would characterize pure capitalism as totalitarian. It's quite prepared to let people starve and be unemployed and suchlike.

The only rule is that everything must be geared towards the increase of capital. Which is why it is such a fantastic wealth generating method. Albeit it a very unfair and cruel one.

I am not sure about the soul selling either.

Chomsky was Great.

I don't know if I would characterize pure capitalism as totalitarian. It's quite prepared to let people starve and be unemployed and suchlike.

Meh, so does North Korea. Except maybe the unemployment bit.

The only rule is that everything must be geared towards the increase of capital. Which is why it is such a fantastic wealth generating method. Albeit it a very unfair and cruel one.

Glad you agree.

I am not sure about the soul selling either.

I am. Your employer has you by the balls. You pretty much have to fulfill their every request or you lose your job. At least in casual work which is all i'm familiar with at this stage.

The following are actual statements made by Conservatives I've known online.

"Bush is a Socialist."


No, who ever said that is delusional.


"China and North Korea don't seem to have any problems with terrorism. Why don't we ask them for advice?"


China has problems with terrorism, particularly in the Western Provinces. As for North Korea, no comment.


"Wiccans aren't pagans; they're frauds and environmentalist lesbians."


Some are undoubtedly environmentalist lesbians (not a bad thing ;) ) and every religion has its frauds. But it is stupid to generalize.


"The mainstream media is all Liberally-biased. For example... ...C-SPAN..."


No comment needed.


"Leftist - Someone who believes public opinions is superior to rights."


Last I heard it was the conservatives screaming about "activist courts" and playing the populist card.


"30,000 troops is all we need. This would be bloodier for the Iraqi people...but we could achieve our strategic goals with far less troops in Iraq."


No comment needed.


"I could rule the world (minus China, Russia, Germany, the UK, Canada, and Australia) with 15,000 properly trained armed men on each major continent."

I hope that was a joke.


"99.99% Of Geniuses Are Christians."

No, quite the opposite.


"All the money America spends on aids research, don't people know how to cure it?????? Yes, we do. It is called using a condom to protect against it. Eventually it would die off."

There is truth in that if enough resources where put into sexual education, the empowering of women, and the distributions of resources AIDS would either die out or evolve into something less deadly. AIDS research has not however been a waste.


"We need a new system in which everything is centered around marriage."


Pundits on tv say that all the time.


"We can't blame Liberals 100% of the time."

Thats right, they can't.

To quote John Stuart Mill, "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are Conservative."

To quote John Stuart Mill (concerning people who are pacifists and anti-war):

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."

Sounds like he's a conservative to me. Probably a neocon.

So, I had to ask: "What? They're Liberally-biased because shooting live footage of Republicans makes Conservatives look bad?"
Don't you get it? The liberal media on C-SPAN is deluding you into thinking that conservatives are saying those things are on the floor of both Houses of Congress! What they're really doing is using Soviet communist technology to emulate Congressmens' voices to make it sound like they're being retarded capitalists.

Great thread, give yourselves a pat on the back with your free hand.

Great thread, give yourselves a pat on the back with your free hand.
Cookie.

Don't you get it? The liberal media on C-SPAN is deluding you into thinking that conservatives are saying those things are on the floor of both Houses of Congress! What they're really doing is using Soviet communist technology to emulate Congressmens' voices to make it sound like they're being retarded capitalists.

Umm. Yeah. Yeah, I know how you feel. I wanted to be a rock & roll singer or a spaceman when I grew up. But then I became yet another victim of the American Injustice System and the Corporations, so had to seek greener pastures elsewhere. Such are life's little disappointments when you are young. But on the bright side, I really enjoyed my "get out of jail" job. I got to travel a lot, meet new people, and shoot them in the face. Then I became on old fart and had to set all that aside, so now I'm looking at the rock & roll thing again.

"We can't blame Liberals 100% of the time."
That's brilliant!

I hope this is one in a series. While conservatives are stereotyped as ignorant retards by the liberals(because politics makes one side call the other evil and mentally challenged), liberals include:
communists(because can't be a con-commie)
Islamo-terrorists(webster basicly proved this)
tree huggers
anarchists
fascists
and anyone else who isn't as traditional.
We need a series. We also need less bias. Christianity doesn't make one ignorant of science. If it did, then Kepler(who proved that the planets go around the sun in ovals instead of circles. He also accurately found the distance between the 6 known planets.) was mentally challenged.

If all conservatives are stupid, then all liberals are anti-american commies because both are incorrect stereotypes, hippies.

Well, if you want stupid conservative quotes, why not go right to the top? Bushisms (http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/)

Some samples:
"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war."

"We're spending money on clean coal technology. Do you realize we've got 250 million years of coal?"

"But Iraq has—have got people there that are willing to kill, and they're hard-nosed killers. And we will work with the Iraqis to secure their future."

"In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible—whatever that means."

"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table."

"I always jest to people, the Oval Office is the kind of place where people stand outside, they're getting ready to come in and tell me what for, and they walk in and get overwhelmed by the atmosphere. And they say 'man, you're looking pretty.' "

I could go on, but why?

:p

My favorite idiotic commie quote is:
"No one has the intention of building a wall."
-Walther Ulbricht, Sec. Gen. of the SED, shortly before the Wall was built.

I hope this is one in a series. While conservatives are stereotyped as ignorant retards by the liberals(because politics makes one side call the other evil and mentally challenged), liberals include:
communists(because can't be a con-commie)
Islamo-terrorists(webster basicly proved this)
tree huggers
anarchists
fascists
and anyone else who isn't as traditional.
We need a series. We also need less bias. Christianity doesn't make one ignorant of science. If it did, then Kepler(who proved that the planets go around the sun in ovals instead of circles. He also accurately found the distance between the 6 known planets.) was mentally challenged.

If all conservatives are stupid, then all liberals are anti-american commies because both are incorrect stereotypes, hippies.

Well said.

I'd just like to point one kinda interresting thing... Beeing stupid is of course a bad thing. Beeing ignorant of sciense, that also. Ignorant retard? Of course.

However, beeing anarchist is not, by definition, a "bad thing", nothing like beeing ignorant retard atleast... Or beeing communist? Why not? OR beeing tree hugger? What the hell is wrong with hugging trees? Now, I knew I had a point with this but I just forgot it... Anyways, I find this rather interresting.

Stereotypes of liberal and conservative are oddly different.

"We need a new system in which everything is centered around marriage."


Neat! Marriage is a cornerstone of Muslim life. Guess these conservatives should consider converting.

Technecly, America was founded as Christian, but that was in the 1600's while the US was still colonies. Plus, they needed a strong institution to help the governments.

Is there an "Idiotic Quotes from Liberals" thread? Who'd want to look like a biased liberal sob anyway?

OK, here's some stupid things I've heard liberals say.

Conservatives, for the most part have good intentions, they just need more information.
I don't think Bush is really stupid.
FOX is too conservative. I get my news from NPR instead.
Pat Robertson is crazy, but his charity does good work.

To quote John Stuart Mill, "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are Conservative."
The Puritan colonies were founded in the 1600’s…

The Puritan colonies were founded in the 1600’s…

So were the Southern colonies, which were founded upon the notion that there was a quick buck to be made out of gold, killing Indians, and eventually, making tobacco. The South didn't get religion until about 90 years after Jamestown.

For that matter, so was Rhode Island, the dumping ground for all the religious rejects that could not or would not fit in anywhere else in the Puritan colonies.

For that matter, so was Maryland, composed primarily out of Catholics who were fleeing persecution in England.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there were a variety of reasons to come to the New World, very few of them to do with the notion of making some global superpower with aspirations of being the shining city on a hill. As such, it makes a pretty poor argument to say that because the Puritans were so freakishly spiritual that they exiled themselves twice from their Puritan cousins back in England, that we must be a Christian nation now. It makes an even worse argument when you realize that there were a lot more non-Puritans than there were Puritans.

So were the Southern colonies, which were founded upon the notion that there was a quick buck to be made out of gold, killing Indians, and eventually, making tobacco. The South didn't get religion until about 90 years after Jamestown.

For that matter, so was Rhode Island, the dumping ground for all the religious rejects that could not or would not fit in anywhere else in the Puritan colonies.

For that matter, so was Maryland, composed primarily out of Catholics who were fleeing persecution in England.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there were a variety of reasons to come to the New World, very few of them to do with the notion of making some global superpower with aspirations of being the shining city on a hill. As such, it makes a pretty poor argument to say that because the Puritans were so freakishly spiritual that they exiled themselves twice from their Puritan cousins back in England, that we must be a Christian nation now. It makes an even worse argument when you realize that there were a lot more non-Puritans than there were Puritans.

Also the areas inhabited by former puritans also tend to be the most secular in the country.

I would like to take this oppurtunity to suggest the book "Albion's Seed" by David Hackett Fishcher. It covers the four great British migrations to the colonies and how they have determined regional grammer, language, building design, form of law, view of authority, basic ideas of "freedom", and even modern politics and ways of governence.

A very good read and a must for anyone interested in the colionial history of America.

Wicca grew out of paganism, but wiccans are no more pagans than catholics are jews. BTW, these are the two religious groups I hate most. (The religion itself not the people who practice it.) Both have allowed politics to shape them into something far different than they were meant to be. The jews are cool, though. They've really kept things running well.

Then I became on old fart and had to set all that aside, so now I'm looking at the rock & roll thing again.

You're never too old to rock and roll.

So were the Southern colonies, which were founded upon the notion that there was a quick buck to be made out of gold, killing Indians, and eventually, making tobacco. The South didn't get religion until about 90 years after Jamestown.

For that matter, so was Rhode Island, the dumping ground for all the religious rejects that could not or would not fit in anywhere else in the Puritan colonies.

For that matter, so was Maryland, composed primarily out of Catholics who were fleeing persecution in England.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there were a variety of reasons to come to the New World, very few of them to do with the notion of making some global superpower with aspirations of being the shining city on a hill. As such, it makes a pretty poor argument to say that because the Puritans were so freakishly spiritual that they exiled themselves twice from their Puritan cousins back in England, that we must be a Christian nation now. It makes an even worse argument when you realize that there were a lot more non-Puritans than there were Puritans.
I’m well aware of that, but Chomskyrion was clearly criticizing the use of that time period, now if he posted what you did, I wouldn’t have had to be an ass about it.

I've heard some pretty stupid things from just about all sides on every issue. It's sad that people resort to name calling and focus on the remarks made by the stupidist on the other side while ignoring those made by the most intelligent. I see this a lot. If you can't address the best arguments made by the other side you just address the stupidist ones and then claim intellectual superioirity.

I've heard some pretty stupid things from just about all sides on every issue. It's sad that people resort to name calling and focus on the remarks made by the stupidist on the other side while ignoring those made by the most intelligent. I see this a lot. If you can't address the best arguments made by the other side you just address the stupidist ones and then claim intellectual superioirity.

Here Here!

Wicca grew out of paganism, but wiccans are no more pagans than catholics are jews.
Wicca doesn't even have all that much to do with paganism, to be honet. Gerald Gardner invented it from scratch because he was into femdom and found the order of the Golden Dawn under Crowley's management far too male for his tastes. The few pagan riffs in there were just shoehorned in to make it look less thelemic.

Proper capitalism is totalitarian. That's how it works. It's called selling your soul to your boss.
Damn right. I'm sick of flushing my pride down the toilet for cash that I need.

You're never too old to rock and roll.
I don't know--Mick Jagger is looking pretty pathetic these days.

I don't know--Mick Jagger is looking pretty pathetic these days.
That's probably because of alcohol, not age.

To quote John Stuart Mill (concerning people who are pacifists and anti-war):

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse."

Sounds like he's a conservative to me. Probably a neocon.
Why is someone who opposes pacifism, necessarily conservative?

Well, if you want stupid conservative quotes, why not go right to the top? Bushisms (http://slate.msn.com/id/76886/)

He does not count, because Bush is a socialist. ;)

My, my, Chomksyrion, you're really raising the bar. My respect for you is -58%, which is, oddly enough, slightly higher than last time. (It was -58.01)

Proper socialism is authoritarian. Thats how it works. It's called collective action.

Hardly. Proper socialism is against all social classes, probably including government if you ask me.

Wicca doesn't even have all that much to do with paganism, to be honet. Gerald Gardner invented it from scratch because he was into femdom and found the order of the Golden Dawn under Crowley's management far too male for his tastes. The few pagan riffs in there were just shoehorned in to make it look less thelemic.

He was?

Why is someone who opposes pacifism, necessarily conservative?

just is. for example, see noted arch-conservative ward churchill and his work "pacifism as pathology".

That's probably because of alcohol, not age.
I'm convinced he's a zombie fueled by the drug cocktail that replaced his bloodstream many years ago.

just is. for example, see noted arch-conservative ward churchill and his work "pacifism as pathology".
Ward Churchill, wasn't he part of the British Union of Fascists? Yes, he was far to the right. :rolleyes:

Ward Churchill, wasn't he part of the British Union of Fascists? Yes, he was far to the right. :rolleyes:

ward churchill (http://www.colorado.edu/EthnicStudies/faculty/w_churchill.html)