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The claim that Marijuana causes cancer Overblown!

Sick Nightmares
20-10-2005, 10:36
SOURCE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20051019/hl_hsn/nolinkbetweenpotsmokingcancer)


Recent studies done by DR. ROBERT J . MELAMEDE (http://www.uccs.edu/~biology/faculty/melamede.htm) suggests that while Marijuana certainly isn't the healthiest of things, it isn't the green monster that the U.S. government would have you believe.

Cells in the lungs and respiratory passages are lined with nicotine receptors but these cells don't appear to have THC receptors. This may explain why smoking marijuana has so far not been linked with lung cancer, a major cause of death from cigarette smoking.


Research has also shown that marijuana kills cancer cells and reduces tumor growth. This is, in part, because marijuana reduces the formation of blood vessels that nourish tumors.
You all better watch out, they will be banning Aspirin next, due to its evil ability to stop headaches!
Amestria
20-10-2005, 11:04
Big surprise, the present government exaggerates to sell its ideological agenda.

As far as I am concerned Marijuana is, cancer wise, no worse then tobaco products. If is proven to be less unhealthy that just makes an even greater case for some sort of legalization.
Fass
20-10-2005, 11:09
I wasn't aware a case for some grander carcinogenicity of marijuana was being made.
Pure Metal
20-10-2005, 11:18
I wasn't aware a case for some grander carcinogenicity of marijuana was being made.
"they" have been saying for some time now that there are as many as six times the number of carcinogens in cannabis compared to tobacco - or that the carcinogens present were six times more potent or something like that anyway.
but then conversely, another "they" were saying that marijuana smoke actually has anti-carcinogens in it that reduces that risk down to almost nothing - i guess this new info supports that idea. w00t :)

they did a test, i seem to remember, comparing the number of smoking patients that got cancer over a period of time. the ones at lowest risk, obviously, were the ones who didn't smoke at all. next least in risk were the just-cannabis smokers, then the cannabis-and-tobacco smokers (not just in the same joint, but they smoke both Js and fags), and lastly, most at risk of actually developing a cancer, the tobacco-only smokers. wish i still had a source for that :(
AnarchyeL
20-10-2005, 11:20
I wasn't aware a case for some grander carcinogenicity of marijuana was being made.

The usual claim is that marijuana smoke contains about five times as much tar as cigarette smoke, and is therefore that much more likely to cause cancer.

This was never of significant concern to anyone who actually smokes pot, however, because we know that the average cigarette smoker probably takes at least twenty times the total hits as a pothead.

(That is, cigarette smokers are constantly lighting up, while even relatively heavy pot smokers only take a few hits a few times a day. Most of us smoke far less often than that.)

Nevertheless, it is interesting (and heartening) to know that new research might dispel the idea all together.
Fass
20-10-2005, 11:23
Heh, you guys are preaching to the choir. While I don't use it all that much myself (as in hardly ever, except maybe when sex requires relaxation I need "help" to attain), I'm not opposed at all.
Sick Nightmares
20-10-2005, 11:50
I wasn't aware a case for some grander carcinogenicity of marijuana was being made.
Oh yeah. It makes you violent, and causes you to eat babies too!
SOURCE (http://familydoctor.org/485.xml)

Like tobacco, marijuana contains many chemicals that can hurt the lungs and cause cancer. One marijuana cigarette can cause more damage to the lungs than many tobacco cigarettes because marijuana has more tar in it and is usually smoked without filters.
BackwoodsSquatches
20-10-2005, 11:57
"The leaves and berries of the marijuana plant, are a dangerous narcotic."
-Reefer Madness.

You show me marijuana berry, and I'll show you a dangerous narcotic.

and then, Im making a pie.
Gartref
20-10-2005, 12:00
"Marajuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, LSD is the bomb. So don't you try to equate liquor to marajuana, Mister, not with me. You may be able to sell that jazz to another pothead, but not to somebody who holds some sick kid's head while he vomits and wretches on a curbstone at 4:00 in the morning. And when his legs get enough starch into them so he can stand up and empty his pockets, you can bet he'll have a stick or two of marajuana. And you can double your money he'll turn up a sugar cube or a cap or two. So don't you con me with your mind expansion slop. I deal with kids every day. I try to clean up the mess that people like you make out of 'em. I'm the expert here, you're not."

Joe Friday - Dragnet. :p
Sick Nightmares
20-10-2005, 12:07
"Marajuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, LSD is the bomb. So don't you try to equate liquor to marajuana, Mister, not with me. You may be able to sell that jazz to another pothead, but not to somebody who holds some sick kid's head while he vomits and wretches on a curbstone at 4:00 in the morning. And when his legs get enough starch into them so he can stand up and empty his pockets, you can bet he'll have a stick or two of marajuana. And you can double your money he'll turn up a sugar cube or a cap or two. So don't you con me with your mind expansion slop. I deal with kids every day. I try to clean up the mess that people like you make out of 'em. I'm the expert here, you're not."

Joe Friday - Dragnet. :p
Man, I didn't know Joe Friday was such a buzzkill!:eek:
Amestria
20-10-2005, 12:30
"Marajuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, LSD is the bomb. So don't you try to equate liquor to marajuana, Mister, not with me. You may be able to sell that jazz to another pothead, but not to somebody who holds some sick kid's head while he vomits and wretches on a curbstone at 4:00 in the morning. And when his legs get enough starch into them so he can stand up and empty his pockets, you can bet he'll have a stick or two of marajuana. And you can double your money he'll turn up a sugar cube or a cap or two. So don't you con me with your mind expansion slop. I deal with kids every day. I try to clean up the mess that people like you make out of 'em. I'm the expert here, you're not."

Joe Friday - Dragnet. :p

Notice that those things being illegal do not seem to stop there use.
Teh_pantless_hero
20-10-2005, 14:39
Does anyone else think "marmalade" when they read his name?
Fass
20-10-2005, 15:30
Does anyone else think "marmalade" when they read his name?

Now I do.
Kryozerkia
20-10-2005, 15:46
Ah, it's nice to see that the research as again come oput in favour of the little green plant.
Laenis
20-10-2005, 15:53
I really cannot see any rational reason for the prohibition of cannabis but not tobacco, alchohol, and even fatty foods. Even if you have some massive hatred of 'filthy hippies' that smoke pot, surely people can see the benefits to the economy of legalising and taxing it?
Kryozerkia
20-10-2005, 16:03
I really cannot see any rational reason for the prohibition of cannabis but not tobacco, alchohol, and even fatty foods. Even if you have some massive hatred of 'filthy hippies' that smoke pot, surely people can see the benefits to the economy of legalising and taxing it?
No... don't you get it? :rolleyes: I would've thought the... *insert big scary documentary suspense sound byte* War on Drugs! *says in a creepy voice* would've been good reason not to...

After all...it was all about not lettin' those damned Mexican migrant workers have their little happy hour. OF course, that didn't work because then other people started using it and so, they had to twist the truth, even though at the time scientists said it was one of the few durgs they ought not outlaw. Yes, this was back in the 30s...

There is a movie...Grass that explains this well.

... oh and I'm a dirty flithy hippie! Damnit, pass me the J... ah...that's the shit. :D
Anthil
20-10-2005, 20:37
Marihuana is actually used as a cancer TREATMENT.
Try googling "Marihuana cancer treatment" for an overview.
Ifreann
20-10-2005, 20:47
Oh yes the big bad government really is using propagande to stop everyone from smoking weed.This (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/support/marijuana) site is clearly reverse psychology
Kryozerkia
20-10-2005, 21:17
Oh yes the big bad government really is using propagande to stop everyone from smoking weed.This (http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/support/marijuana) site is clearly reverse psychology
o_O;; Marijuana causes or helps to cause Anorexia in such patience...but... what about those insatiable cravings that we get while high...