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Israel/Palestine

Drzhen
19-10-2005, 01:23
I'm curious, who thinks both sides will grow up and start acting mature enough to cease the continuous fighting?
Syniks
19-10-2005, 03:24
I'm curious, who thinks both sides will grow up and start acting mature enough to cease the continuous fighting?
The minute the Palestinians stop shooting, it's over. How many "ceasefires" have there been? How many were broken by the Palis? Figure it out.

When Terrorists stop killing Civillians, no one will have any reason to kill terrorists. It's that simple.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
19-10-2005, 03:27
When Terrorists stop killing Civillians, no one will have any reason to kill terrorists. It's that simple.
But then they wouldn't be Terrorists anymore. I find it dispicable that you would oppress an individual with your dogmatic moral straight jackets that prohibit stupid things like "Stoning a Woman to Death" or "Chopping of People's Heads."
You are the terrorist, you and every other jerk who wants to force Terrorists into the closet and oppress them just because they are acting out who they are.
The South Islands
19-10-2005, 03:27
The minute the Palestinians stop shooting, it's over. How many "ceasefires" have there been? How many were broken by the Palis? Figure it out.

When Terrorists stop killing Civillians, no one will have any reason to kill terrorists. It's that simple.

And when will THAT happen?
Syniks
19-10-2005, 03:40
And when will THAT happen?
Likely never. But that's not the fault of the Israelis / Terror-targets is it?
Syniks
19-10-2005, 03:46
But then they wouldn't be Terrorists anymore. I find it dispicable that you would oppress an individual with your dogmatic moral straight jackets that prohibit stupid things like "Stoning a Woman to Death" or "Chopping of People's Heads."
You are the terrorist, you and every other jerk who wants to force Terrorists into the closet and oppress them just because they are acting out who they are.Sob! You are so right! How could I be so blind? Terrorists should be a protected Minority! Will you forgive me if I let someone sneak through our porous border with a old Russian 10kt Nuke and level the Kennedy Compound? Please?

Afirmitive Action for Splodydopes! Politics with a BANG!
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
19-10-2005, 03:48
Sob! You are so right! How could I be so blind? Terrorists should be a protected Minority! Will you forgive me if I let someone sneak through our porous border with a old Russian 10kt Nuke and level the Kennedy Compound? Please?

Afirmitive Action for Splodydopes! Politics with a BANG!
Make sure that the terrorist is also a disabled, black lesbian, and we have a deal.
Teh DeaDiTeS
19-10-2005, 12:26
who thinks both sides will grow up and start acting mature enough...

Yeah if only those cheeky buggers would just be friends. Decades of violence, dead family members, repression and propaganda - recognised as the foolish and childish games they were; forgiven and forgotten.

I clicked 'comet'.
Cabra West
19-10-2005, 12:50
It won't stop any time soon... there are too many people willing to fight, actively looking for a fight, on both sides.

Israelis demanding revenge because they lost friends or family, orthodox Jews preaching that the whole land belongs to the Jews and that the Palestinians ought to be forced to leave or be killed, just like the Thora says.
Palestinians who witnessed the destruction of their homes, their towns and mosques, who lost friends and family, who believe that they have a right to live in a state without repression...
The Holy Womble
19-10-2005, 12:53
I'm curious, who thinks both sides will grow up and start acting mature enough to cease the continuous fighting?
And I am curious, who else finds the phrasing of this question immature, ignorant, pretentious and patronizing?
Leonstein
19-10-2005, 12:59
And I am curious, who else finds the phrasing of this question immature, ignorant, pretentious and patronizing?
You'd have to admit that to someone who has no real stake in the issue, and who may also lack the interest to really get into it, this whole bombing each other business can seem mighty pointless.
The Holy Womble
19-10-2005, 13:19
You'd have to admit that to someone who has no real stake in the issue, and who may also lack the interest to really get into it, this whole bombing each other business can seem mighty pointless.
Someone who "lacks the interest to really get into it" cannot pass any legitimate judgement on the people who are involved.
Olantia
19-10-2005, 13:26
Someone who "lacks the interest to really get into it" cannot pass any legitimate judgement on the people who are involved.
The OP says that he's curious, and he isn't intended to judge anyone, I think.
Jello Biafra
19-10-2005, 13:38
I clicked that it will eventually stop. Whether this means that it will stop when one side wipes the other out or not, I can't say.
Syniks
19-10-2005, 14:55
And I am curious, who else finds the phrasing of this question immature, ignorant, pretentious and patronizing?
I find it totally on par with someone from the Holy Order of Saint Pancake. :rolleyes:
Valosia
19-10-2005, 15:47
Well, unless the Jews plan on dying off anytime soon, the hostilities will continue. I mean, they're surrounded by people with idealogies that say they need to be killed.

Israel easily could go nuts on these countries it's surrounded by, yet for the most part they've shown much more restraint than the other side. If they Palestinians want their land back they need to stop blowing up nightclubs and schoolbuses so the world would have more sympathy towards them.
Biotopia
19-10-2005, 15:58
peace is always possible however there are cultural elements and political ones on BOTH sides that only exist to continue fighting a war that can only be resolved in peace or total destruction. Right-wing Jews and Right-wing Palestinians are no better then one antoehr and for most of the people i believe they want peace. Any peace will be the removal of these factions from having an active and legitimate role in both societies.
Drunk commies deleted
19-10-2005, 16:02
Well, unless the Jews plan on dying off anytime soon, the hostilities will continue. I mean, they're surrounded by people with idealogies that say they need to be killed.

Israel easily could go nuts on these countries it's surrounded by, yet for the most part they've shown much more restraint than the other side. If they Palestinians want their land back they need to stop blowing up nightclubs and schoolbuses so the world would have more sympathy towards them.
I totally agree, but much of the world has sympathy for them already. They're the "poor opressed victims" regardless of the fact that their poverty and opression only happen because they spend their time and energy trying to kill their neighbors and that they're more often than not the victimizers, not victims.
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 17:18
April 19th, 2007 is going to be a very exciting day concerning this topic .... just you wait and see.
Lewrockwellia
19-10-2005, 17:22
I'm curious, who thinks both sides will grow up and start acting mature enough to cease the continuous fighting?

The day they stop fighting will be the day Hell freezes over.
Drunk commies deleted
19-10-2005, 17:28
April 19th, 2007 is going to be a very exciting day concerning this topic .... just you wait and see.
What's going to happen. I searched the internet and only found this.

General Board of Pension and Health Benefits Board of Directors Meeting Thursday, April 19, 2007 - Saturday, April 21, 2007 Fort Worth, TX Barbara Boigegrain

which came from the United Methodist Church website.
Ravenshrike
19-10-2005, 17:31
Will you forgive me if I let someone sneak through our porous border with a old Russian 10kt Nuke and level the Kennedy Compound? Please?

The Baldwin complex would be a better target, as long as Adam Baldwin wasn't there.
Teh DeaDiTeS
20-10-2005, 07:07
I totally agree, but much of the world has sympathy for them already. They're the "poor opressed victims" regardless of the fact that their poverty and opression only happen because they spend their time and energy trying to kill their neighbors and that they're more often than not the victimizers, not victims.

*Sigh* the only thing this thread has done is show how detached people are from the realities of the issue. It has gone way beyong victims and opression: this is decades of killing, segregation, misinformation and extremism.

I agree with The Holy Wombel:

"And I am curious, who else finds the phrasing of this question immature, ignorant, pretentious and patronizing?"

Aye.