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Joint problems?

DHomme
19-10-2005, 00:38
Here we are- a highly practical thread were potsmokers should be free to discuss their favourite types of weed, methods of preparation, activities to enjoy after the big smoke and so on.

Let's get this going

I like this skunk I had 2 weeks ago with bright orange bits in it, it made me hallucinate for the first time ever on weed alone.

Word of warning- watch out for the extra dark bits in hash, they are most likely burnt in plastic. My reccomendation is to ignore British hash altogether as it is piss poor. Try continental or American, much smoother and tastier as well.

I like blueberry blunt skins and I once rolled a joint with little bits of chocolate in. It smoked nice and tasted gorgeous. However I was violently sick afterwards, although I had had a little vodka earlier so it may have been the combination and not the chocolate spliff itself.

I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 01:16
yeah stay away from british hash - nasty stuff. moroccan is nice, but a safe bet is anything dutch :)

man i fucking love nederhash. its at least twice as strong as the green you can get (at normal prices without growing it yourself) in the UK, and its half the price, too! the weed you probably had would be Orange Buds i would guess (what with having lots of orange bits in lol)... tried it in amsterdam & thought it very nice indeed :)
ak-47 is my personal choice of any strain tho. smokes up well in a blunt (blueberry also my favourite flavour woot)


as for paraphernalia, i use this baby (http://www.weedcity.com/shop/uploads/images_products_large/306.jpg):P
DHomme
19-10-2005, 01:20
yeah stay away from british hash - nasty stuff. moroccan is nice, but a safe bet is anything dutch :)

man i fucking love nederhash. its at least twice as strong as the green you can get (at normal prices without growing it yourself) in the UK, and its half the price, too! the weed you probably had would be Orange Buds i would guess (what with having lots of orange bits in lol)... tried it in amsterdam & thought it very nice indeed :)
ak-47 is my personal choice of any strain tho. smokes up well in a blunt (blueberry also my favourite flavour woot)


as for paraphernalia, i use this baby (http://www.weedcity.com/shop/uploads/images_products_large/306.jpg):P

Nice Hookah mate! Ive got one with only one pipe coming off it though, but some bud mixed with strawberry baccy and i was away

AK-47? Can you describe it's qualities (colour, stickiness, how packed it is, etc)?

I somehow knew PM would post here first! :D
Sierra BTHP
19-10-2005, 01:22
I believe that the genetically engineered stuff grown in the US is the best.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 01:31
Nice Hookah mate! Ive got one with only one pipe coming off it though, but some bud mixed with strawberry baccy and i was away
cheers buddy - hookah's are well worth it! :)
and yeah strawberry's good, as is any kind of mixed fruit... and grape tastes like wine! to me anyway ;)
just don't ever go for apple cos it had us all wretching our guts out

AK-47? Can you describe it's qualities (colour, stickiness, how packed it is, etc)?
well i'd like to be able to, but i only smoked it in holland and we smoked so much that week a) all the weed started to look like every other sort of weed, and b) the week's pretty much a blur anyway :p
though if i do remember correctly: darker green than normal, tightly packed and damn potent with plenty of shiny, shiny crystals on teh budz ;) maybe white flakes but i might be confusing it with northern lights... either way, its highly recommended (as is a trip to amsterdam!)
we managed to post some back home... so that next week was a haze too :p

I somehow knew PM would post here first! :D
lol my reputation preceeds me - i'm honoured :D


though you know i haven't smoked since 'Dam. well, a couple of joints maybe, but i haven't 'smoked' :(
DHomme
19-10-2005, 01:33
well i'd like to be able to, but i only smoked it in holland and we smoked so much that week a) all the weed started to look like every other sort of weed, and b) the week's pretty much a blur anyway :p
though if i do remember correctly: darker green than normal, tightly packed and damn potent with plenty of shiny, shiny crystals on teh budz ;) maybe white flakes but i might be confusing it with northern lights... either way, its highly recommended (as is a trip to amsterdam!)
we managed to post some back home... so that next week was a haze too :p


That sounds pretty similar to white widow, ya basehead
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 01:36
I didn't know there was such a thing as 'British' Hash - what's it made from, coal shavings and lard?

*dodges flung bongwater*

The best hash is Charas from India, followed by Afghani Black, and Lebanese Blond.

Favourite variety: Indica.

Currently smoking: Friezeland.

Preferred methods of ingestion:

1) my trusty big ol' pipe.
2) my micro-bong filled with 50% water, 50% creme de menthe
3) joints painstakingly rolled so as to be indistinguishable from a factory-produced cigarette (with filter). Very effective for smoking in public places.

*stops, lights up*

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, kids.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 01:38
I didn't know there was such a thing as 'British' Hash - what's it made from, coal shavings and lard?

*dodges flung bongwater*

The best hash is Charas from India, followed by Afghani Black, and Lebanese Blond.

Favourite variety: Indica.

Currently smoking: Friezeland.

Preferred methods of ingestion:

1) my trusty big ol' pipe.
2) my micro-bong filled with 50% water, 50% creme de menthe
3) joints painstakingly rolled so as to be indistinguishable from a factory-produced cigarette (with filter). Very effective for smoking in public places.

*stops, lights up*

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, kids.

I think you're now officially one of my favourite forum people *passes online spliff*
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 01:42
Favourite variety: Sativa.

Currently smoking: Snow White.

Preferred methods of ingestion:

1) My bong, with rum instead of water.


Hooray for surveys! :D

(props to Dobbsworld)
Sierra BTHP
19-10-2005, 01:43
I didn't know there was such a thing as 'British' Hash - what's it made from, coal shavings and lard?

*dodges flung bongwater*

The best hash is Charas from India, followed by Afghani Black, and Lebanese Blond.

Favourite variety: Indica.

Currently smoking: Friezeland.

Preferred methods of ingestion:

1) my trusty big ol' pipe.
2) my micro-bong filled with 50% water, 50% creme de menthe
3) joints painstakingly rolled so as to be indistinguishable from a factory-produced cigarette (with filter). Very effective for smoking in public places.

*stops, lights up*

Smoke 'em if you got 'em, kids.


I used to like hash (when I was in Germany, it was cheap and easy to get). My favorite way to smoke it was to take a two liter plastic bottle, cut the bottom off, and immerse to the neck of the bottle in a bucket of water. Make a small tray of aluminum foil, put the hash on it, torch it with a lighter and pull the bottle up - drawing smoke into the bottle. Then deftly knock the aluminum off and put your mouth on the bottle opening. Ram the bottle down into the bucket - the smoke crams in there.

Nowadays, however, I prefer a discreet titanium pipe that I cobbled together from parts I found from an old aerospace project. And I prefer locally grown buds (greenhouse stuff).
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 01:46
I think you're now officially one of my favourite forum people *passes online spliff*
Aww, shucks. If you was a Toronto boy I'd have you over to sample my Silver Haze harvest...

... big initial returns. I'm a little concerned with the rest of the ladies, though. I'm not seeing as many big juicy buds as I'd like.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 01:48
I didn't know there was such a thing as 'British' Hash - what's it made from, coal shavings and lard?
the scrapings of a greasy spoon, yeah. sometimes you're lucky enough to find a baked bean in your hash :p

nah british solid is crap cos the dealers always cut it with loads of shit - wood shavings, melted plastic, rat poison (:eek: ). it probably happens everywhere but in the uk they get away with murder - largely cos its only the kids who buy hash anyway (largely because of this... so which came first the chicken or the egg...?)


2) my micro-bong filled with 50% water, 50% creme de menthe
"creme de menthe"? i like the sound of that
Neo Kervoskia
19-10-2005, 01:50
I want some hash. :(
Cannot think of a name
19-10-2005, 01:52
We don't normally name the stuff up here in NorCal. In Santa Cruz if it sticks to the wall ya smoke it.

This is about as far south as you can get and still get quality bud. I love smoking out the odd tourist, like watching them smoke bud for the first time.

I'm a pretty big fan of this goo my housemate kicked down to me the other day. It's not quite hash, it's like THC paste. I forget what he called it but it's fuckin' fantastic.

Right now I'm blazing the last of it on an elevated deck where all I can see are redwoods, there is a gentle mist but I'm in short sleeves listening to radio dramas and smoking a nice Macanudo Maduro wrap cigar. My life has its moments.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 01:53
"creme de menthe"? i like the sound of that
Its so alcoholic and minty. My favourite shot is creme de menthe with tequila! yummy. Not good if 3 joints have been smoked before though
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 01:54
I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.
not really worth the cost imho.
if you do, you gotta bong it, and fast - and a fair amount, too.
also, don't bother with the leaf, get the enhanced extract or it won't do shit. costs more but if you want to get anything out of it then there you go

and i hear if you do trip, they can be pretty intense, so smoke it in a nice comfortable environment. that said when i had it i wasn't really aware of my environment after a short while, so i guess it probably doesn't matter too much (and i wasn't even tripping much either)


best bet: shrooms. tho they're now class A :headbang:
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 01:58
the scrapings of a greasy spoon, yeah. sometimes you're lucky enough to find a baked bean in your hash :p

nah british solid is crap cos the dealers always cut it with loads of shit - wood shavings, melted plastic, rat poison (:eek: ). it probably happens everywhere but in the uk they get away with murder - largely cos its only the kids who buy hash anyway (largely because of this... so which came first the chicken or the egg...?)



"creme de menthe"? i like the sound of that
Mmm, I like baked beans... but with my breakfast, not exploding in my hash pipe.

I can't decide if the quotes round creme de menthe mean you're unfamiliar with it or not. Just in case, it's mint licquer. Did I misunderstand?

And btw, 'solid' as a term for hash is a new one on me, but I like it. Works well. Is hash 'solid' as opposed to weed being 'leafy'?
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 02:00
This is about as far south as you can get and still get quality bud. I love smoking out the odd tourist, like watching them smoke bud for the first time.
i'm still gonna have to come over there and test this (though you'll probably pwn me :cool: )

Aww, shucks. If you was a Toronto boy I'd have you over to sample my Silver Haze harvest...
and you too, if you don't mind ;)
my hash-tour of the north american continent promises not to disappoint :P


Right now I'm blazing the last of it on an elevated deck where all I can see are redwoods, there is a gentle mist but I'm in short sleeves listening to radio dramas and smoking a nice Macanudo Maduro wrap cigar. My life has its moments.
you lucky bugger! :p

*wishes he was there*

I used to like hash (when I was in Germany, it was cheap and easy to get). My favorite way to smoke it was to take a two liter plastic bottle, cut the bottom off, and immerse to the neck of the bottle in a bucket of water. Make a small tray of aluminum foil, put the hash on it, torch it with a lighter and pull the bottle up - drawing smoke into the bottle. Then deftly knock the aluminum off and put your mouth on the bottle opening. Ram the bottle down into the bucket - the smoke crams in there.
you liked bucketing? :eek: :confused:
gimme the smoooooothe toke of a shisha any day, but to each his own i guess :)
DHomme
19-10-2005, 02:00
And btw, 'solid' as a term for hash is a new one on me, but I like it. Works well. Is hash 'solid' as opposed to weed being 'leafy'?
Oh god no! its bud or sticky! leaf isnt worth the baggie it comes in. I smoked an 1/8 of that stuff by myself and didnt even get redeye!
Aromatique
19-10-2005, 02:01
I know someone who, as a teenager, smoked some undetermined pot laced with who the hell knows what or just had an allergic reaction, went into seizure, and was grand mal epileptic forever afterwards. A few years later she died of a brain hemmorage from a concussion she received during a seizure. Left 2 kids orphaned.

Must be why they call it dope.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 02:02
I know someone who, as a teenager, smoked some undetermined pot laced with who the hell knows what or just had an allergic reaction, went into seizure, and was grand mal epileptic forever afterwards. A few years later she died of a brain hemmorage from a concussion she received during a seizure. Left 2 kids orphaned.

Must be why they call it dope.

Yes it was the weed. Not the crack it was laced with.
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 02:02
I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.

I assume you mean "sativa" ... :D

Anyway .... Sativas are the finest kind. Of course, this is a matter of preference.

Indicas just make me want to veg in front of the TV and drool on myself and do thinky brainy things.

Sativas have always made me want to get out, go dancing, meet a girl, be awake and in party mode. Lately, as I get older, Sativas make me want to clean my house and do laundry and get various chores done. Sativas perk me up like coffee plus.
Sierra BTHP
19-10-2005, 02:03
you liked bucketing? :eek: :confused:
gimme the smoooooothe toke of a shisha any day, but to each his own i guess :)
*wishes he was there*

Bucket and hash was the rule when I was younger. It would probably kick my ass now.

I have a very long, thin titatium pipe (not originally made as one) which I use to savor the leaf nowadays.

Just because I'm Republican doesn't mean I'm completely stupid.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 02:03
I can't decide if the quotes round creme de menthe mean you're unfamiliar with it or not. Just in case, it's mint licquer. Did I misunderstand?
nah you got it right. never heard of the stuff - sounds good though :)

And btw, 'solid' as a term for hash is a new one on me, but I like it. Works well. Is hash 'solid' as opposed to weed being 'leafy'?
lol... no :p
i could give a (quite probably limited) list of british slangs for weed/hash, but i'm sure most of them would be the same so its not really worth the effort...
...besides i'm trying to go to sleep here and this thread is keeping me awake :p
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:04
I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.
I'm growing a Salvia Divinorum plant in my livingroom. I've had it for three years now, and it's made up it's mind it wants to be a vine-y sort of plant. I haven't used any yet. I have a friend who has experimented rather a lot with Lady Salvia however, and he'd heartily recommend you prepare a place to immediately lie down after you smoke it (I'm assuming you're planning to smoke an enhanced, commercial variety) and very importantly - that you have someone on hand to act as a control in case you happen to get up or move around while experiencing the trip.

Better safe than fallen down a staircase.
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:07
best bet: shrooms. tho they're now class A :headbang:
I'm sitting on an ounce while I make up my mind whether I could reasonably secure enough cow shit to make cultivating the spores worth my while...

...but I'll probably just gnosh on 'em some upcoming weekend. Along with some Silver Haze brownies.
Cannot think of a name
19-10-2005, 02:07
i'm still gonna have to come over there and test this (though you'll probably pwn me :cool: )
I'm sure you can hang. If you ever make it out...


you lucky bugger! :p:D


you liked bucketing? :eek: :confused:

See, that name makes waaaaayyyyyyyy more sense. We call it a Gravity Bong, which makes no damn sense. But, on special occasions it's just the thing.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 02:08
Just because I'm Republican doesn't mean I'm completely stupid.
heh not at all... its just i've never 'bucketed' before, though i hear reports from friends its harsh at fuck (though gets you good & high, fast)

and he'd heartily recommend you prepare a place to immediately lie down after you smoke it
amen.
Cannot think of a name
19-10-2005, 02:09
I'm sitting on an ounce while I make up my mind whether I could reasonably secure enough cow shit to make cultivating the spores worth my while...

...but I'll probably just gnosh on 'em some upcoming weekend. Along with some Silver Haze brownies.
Take a dose and go see MirrorMask. Unless you're a depresed 12 year old girl, that's your best bet-but totally worth it.
DrunkenDove
19-10-2005, 02:10
I assume you mean "sativa" ... :D


Salvia. Also known as diviners sage. When you smoke it you trip. I have personally found it to be unpleasant, but theres no accounting for taste is there?
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:11
I assume you mean "sativa" ... :D

Anyway .... Sativas are the finest kind. Of course, this is a matter of preference.

Indicas just make me want to veg in front of the TV and drool on myself and do thinky brainy things.

Sativas have always made me want to get out, go dancing, meet a girl, be awake and in party mode. Lately, as I get older, Sativas make me want to clean my house and do laundry and get various chores done. Sativas perk me up like coffee plus.
No I think he's talking about those little packets of enhanced Salvia Divinorum you can legally buy in headshops these days...

...and I'm all about the thinky brainy things. I find it's the sativa that turns me into a pliant slug. But the indica lets me do all the things you listed above and more.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 02:12
heh not at all... its just i've never 'bucketed' before, though i hear reports from friends its harsh at fuck (though gets you good & high, fast)


Ack! Shotty bong mate. no more for me after four of them
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 02:12
See, that name makes waaaaayyyyyyyy more sense. We call it a Gravity Bong, which makes no damn sense. But, on special occasions it's just the thing.
oh i dunno, gravity bong for us is quite a different beast (and is specific parapenalia bought in the shops - not all this bottle & water crapola). as you say, just the thing for the right occasion - can see a decent sized spliff wasted in seconds :cool:


and just out of curiosity to dobbsworld, do you guys in canada smoke european or american style (with or without baccy in spliffs)?:confused:
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 02:14
Salvia. Also known as diviners sage. When you smoke it you trip. I have personally found it to be unpleasant, but theres no accounting for taste is there?

Oooooh .... that stuffs .... well ok then.

Incidently, if I want that, I eat shrooms.

I must have misunderstood something ... but that's to be expected ... I'm a pothead.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 02:14
How do people here roll, without a roach and use roach clips? without a roach, thin at both ends then slot one in? or roll the spliff with it inserted?
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:15
heh not at all... its just i've never 'bucketed' before, though i hear reports from friends its harsh at fuck (though gets you good & high, fast)


amen.
Funny, it's only on NS I've heard it called 'bucketing'. We used to call it a 'gravity bong'. Does anybody remember 'bottletokes', or 'BT's as they were also known?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not waxing poetic over BTs - I always thought they didn't suck so much as blow. Terrible way to ingest drugs.
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 02:16
...and I'm all about the thinky brainy things. I find it's the sativa that turns me into a pliant slug. But the indica lets me do all the things you listed above and more.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Nod ... amazing how various things react in the various brains. Any chemical will have a strange reaction when introduced into the unpredictable human brain.

I guess that's why they have all those disclaimers on pill avertisements ... you know ... may cause swelling, death, contract with Satan, trouble sleeping, sudden bloody stool ... etc etc
Cannot think of a name
19-10-2005, 02:17
Funny, it's only on NS I've heard it called 'bucketing'. We used to call it a 'gravity bong'. Does anybody remember 'bottletokes', or 'BT's as they were also known?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not waxing poetic over BTs - I always thought they didn't suck so much as blow. Terrible way to ingest drugs.
That's not the deal where you poke a hole in the bottom of a bottle and us the draining water to drag the load? I hated that the only time I tried it.
Keruvalia
19-10-2005, 02:19
How do people here roll

If I roll, I use one of those cigarette rollers and make myself a nice fatty. Of course, I grow my own, so I can afford to make those things.

Oh .... standard disclaimer: SHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Though it is one of the nice thing about owning land in Texas .... you can grow ... your growth season is pretty much year 'round ... and those special "crop heat" sensors we have here can only be used if there's a warrant.
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:20
and just out of curiosity to dobbsworld, do you guys in canada smoke european or american style (with or without baccy in spliffs)?:confused:
People smoke it both ways over here, though the ones mixing the tobacco in usually claim they do it to make their dope last longer, not for the taste.

I'm a tobacco smoker, and I never mix tobacco with good dope. Ruins the taste. When you're someplace like Montreal, where it's hash, hash everywhere - there's a tendency to mix. But if I'm in the room, there's a damn good chance I'll have some weed with me, and I'll insist the only mixing will be with a bit of the green.

So which is which? American is with the tobacco?
DrunkenDove
19-10-2005, 02:20
That's not the deal where you poke a hole in the bottom of a bottle and us the draining water to drag the load? I hated that the only time I tried it.

We call it a waterfall around here. Best saved for the end of an evening, due to it's prospenity for knocking everyone out.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 02:25
or roll the spliff with it inserted?
that one



So which is which? American is with the tobacco?
other way round.

right thats it - no more for tired little me... beddy byes time. laters all :)
Neo Kervoskia
19-10-2005, 02:26
Pure Metal, be a pal and buy some pot for ol' Neo Kervoskia?
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 02:48
That's not the deal where you poke a hole in the bottom of a bottle and us the draining water to drag the load? I hated that the only time I tried it.
Nahh. It's like this: (and I can't believe I'm telling you this)

1) Take 750 mL glass pop bottle. (Now becoming more and more a thing of the past, this marks me for age... oh well. The 750 mL pop bottles were the optimal size, you can use other types of glass bottles but I can't guarantee your results, k?)

2) place glass bottle in plastic shopping bag, neck-out.

3) drop marble, small ball bearing, pebble or other small, dense object into bottle.

4) flick wrist while holding bottle horizontally (open neck facing you). This step may need to be repeated a bit, you'll know it's worked when you hear the small dense object break through the side of the glass bottle. There's a certain random element, as you're never quite sure how large or small a hole you'll create, but in my experience the hole will usually be at or near the bottom of the bottle.

5) rinse bottle. Dispose of bag and bits of broken glass.

6) Now there's two ways of doing a bottle toke:

One - you use the lit end of a cigarette.
Two - you use a clean unused souldering iron specifically set aside to be used for smoking drugs.

What you do is take a tiny piece of hash, press it against a flat hard surface, and then flatten it like a rolling pin on dough. You peel off the thin splotch of hash, and then

7) place it carefully on the lit end of a cigarette (best held filter end between the index and ring fingers, right up against the knuckle - so the lit end is sticking out above the open palm of your hand), and insert the cigarette, hash and all into the hole on the side of your bottle-toker. Remember to place your thumb over the open top of the pop bottle. Alternatively, use the pre-heated souldering iron to 'pick up' the peeled-off splotch of hash from whatever surface it's lying on, and in much the same way as the cigarette, place the smouldering hash inside the bottle-toker, always remembering to keep it covered.

8) Observe the smoke carefully. Once the heavier hash smoke abates, you'll see (or try to see) the thinner tobacco smoke, and you'll know it's time to (in order):

One - stand up if you weren't already.

Two - quickly remove the cigarette or souldering iron.

Three - steel yourself and give a great big exhalation of breath.

Four - take your hand off the hole at the bottom of the bottle and suck back the contents of the bottle in one go, and

Five - hold it in.

Best results if you have something refreshing on hand to get the disgusting taste out of your mouth. For use only in situations where drugs are next near to impossible to procure, or when and where economization of drug resources is crucial.

I do not recommend this as a regular means of ingesting drugs, btw. This is just how we used to do it when we were young and poor and mostly bereft of dope.
Myrmidonisia
19-10-2005, 03:07
Did I wander into the wrong place. My first thought was about arthritis. I guess you know your old and in the way when ...
Cannot think of a name
19-10-2005, 03:18
Nahh. It's like this: (and I can't believe I'm telling you this)

-snip-
Sweet crap that's complicated. I'm sooo glad that there are like eight head shops down the street...
Hiberniae
19-10-2005, 03:28
Alright, I don't smoke weed, never have...never will. No real reason beyond smoking just isn't my thing. I like my alcohol just fine. But I have a lot of stoner friends of all degrees. I know the lingual and the devices they used. And seeing as I haven't seen it mentioned I'll let you all in on something that makes the weed you smoke almost odorless. You have to find these cigarrettes called "Eclipses". It has a metal ring in it that you have to remove to get the tobacco out. After that you replace the ring and heat it up. It works like a vaporizer. I am not sure exactly on all the details for this but if you didn't know it existed before this should give you enough info to search more shit on it online.
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 03:29
Sweet crap that's complicated. I'm sooo glad that there are like eight head shops down the street...
The afore-snipped recipe was a product of a time in Canada when "novelty tobacco products", i.e. pipes and bongs, were prohibited by Federal law. A shitty Federal law cranked out by a shitty Federal government, the Mulroney Tory government of ages past.

You think we'd've wasted our time whacking marbles inside of pop bottles if we could've had a hookah instead?
Thekalu
19-10-2005, 03:29
most of the time for weed me and my friends go in together and buy like an ounce of hydro or KB and sell most and smoke a little as for smoking utensils I have a little one hitter and a homemade pipe made from a piece of metal tube and pop can (it rips surprisingly good)

p.s.: anyone bitching about my stuff can piss off because I try to get the best stuff I can
Greater Valia
19-10-2005, 03:31
Yeah I've been having some problems with my knee.....

*reads thread*

Oooooh... THAT kind of Joint!

Here we are- a highly practical thread were potsmokers should be free to discuss their favourite types of weed, methods of preparation, activities to enjoy after the big smoke and so on.

Let's get this going

I like this skunk I had 2 weeks ago with bright orange bits in it, it made me hallucinate for the first time ever on weed alone.

Word of warning- watch out for the extra dark bits in hash, they are most likely burnt in plastic. My reccomendation is to ignore British hash altogether as it is piss poor. Try continental or American, much smoother and tastier as well.

I like blueberry blunt skins and I once rolled a joint with little bits of chocolate in. It smoked nice and tasted gorgeous. However I was violently sick afterwards, although I had had a little vodka earlier so it may have been the combination and not the chocolate spliff itself.

I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.

Weed is for pussys. >_< You want a good trip try some Acid or Opium. (or for that recreational high, laughing gas is pretty nice.)
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 03:32
most of the time for weed me and my friends go in together and buy like an ounce of hydro or KB and sell most and smoke a little as for smoking utensils I have a little one hitter and a homemade pipe made from a piece of metal tube and pop can (it rips surprisingly good)

p.s.: anyone bitching about my stuff can piss off because I try to get the best stuff I can
Well, I'd avoid aluminum, but that's just me - me & my habit of avoiding aluminum when possible. Bad stuff, gives you Alzheimer's.

Should I piss off, then?
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 03:37
Yeah I've been having some problems with my knee.....

*reads thread*

Oooooh... THAT kind of Joint!



Weed is for pussys. >_< You want a good trip try some Acid or Opium. (or for that recreational high, laughing gas is pretty nice.)
I'd recommend against the opium - unless you dig a monkey on your back. Acid is cheap and synthetic. Better psilocybin. Think organic, man. Organic. Nitrous oxide is pretty nice if you can secure the stuff they use at the dentist's office. You don't want to suck back on cans of whipped cream though, do you? And for God's sakes don't go inhaling that shit they use in racing cars. That'll kill you, man.
Greater Valia
19-10-2005, 03:41
I'd recommend against the opium - unless you dig a monkey on your back.

Eh, I only partake of it maybe 4 or 5 times a year at the most.

Acid is cheap and synthetic. Better psilocybin. Think organic, man. Organic.

Eh, I've done peyote before. That count?

Nitrous oxide is pretty nice if you can secure the stuff they use at the dentist's office. You don't want to suck back on cans of whipped cream though, do you? And for God's sakes don't go inhaling that shit they use in racing cars. That'll kill you, man.

I have a friend who works at a dentist office near here that can get some about once a month. Which is good....
Pepe Dominguez
19-10-2005, 03:43
Benzodiazepines never get any respect.. :(

You're all missing out.. fistful of benzos obliterate the world. :)
Mods can be so cruel
19-10-2005, 03:47
Here we are- a highly practical thread were potsmokers should be free to discuss their favourite types of weed, methods of preparation, activities to enjoy after the big smoke and so on.

Let's get this going

I like this skunk I had 2 weeks ago with bright orange bits in it, it made me hallucinate for the first time ever on weed alone.

Word of warning- watch out for the extra dark bits in hash, they are most likely burnt in plastic. My reccomendation is to ignore British hash altogether as it is piss poor. Try continental or American, much smoother and tastier as well.

I like blueberry blunt skins and I once rolled a joint with little bits of chocolate in. It smoked nice and tasted gorgeous. However I was violently sick afterwards, although I had had a little vodka earlier so it may have been the combination and not the chocolate spliff itself.

I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.



Salvia tastes like shit, so use a bong that you won't ever use again. It'll ruin the taste of your good bong, the smell stays forever. Oh, and proletariat of the world unite!
Thekalu
19-10-2005, 03:48
Well, I'd avoid aluminum, but that's just me - me & my habit of avoiding aluminum when possible. Bad stuff, gives you Alzheimer's.

Should I piss off, then?


normally I use the one hitter,I only use the homemade one for "emergencies"
but I didn't know that aluminum gave you alzheimers do you have a source I could see because if that's true I'll throw out that pop can pipe
Dobbsworld
19-10-2005, 04:15
normally I use the one hitter,I only use the homemade one for "emergencies"
but I didn't know that aluminum gave you alzheimers do you have a source I could see because if that's true I'll throw out that pop can pipe
Well, top of the list on a google for 'aluminum alzheimers' produced this link (http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/alzheimers.htm) in the number one position. I'm not a rabid anti-aluminum lobbyist, I don't come armed with links. It's just something I've heard every other year for ten or twenty years. So I stay clear, generally.

The official blurb is that the effect of elevated aluminum levels is undetermined. But before you dismiss it and go back to your pop-can, I did notice this statement halfway down: "Aluminum beverage cans are usually coated with a polymer to minimize such leaching".

Eeeew. Smoking polymers. Blecch.

:D
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
19-10-2005, 04:57
Eh, I've done peyote before. That count?

Oooo...peyote...I haven't done that since I was on the rez...freaky stuff.

You have different names for things that are similar to what I've done here...examples:

For me, a gravity bong is made out of a 3-liter bottle of soda. You cut the bottom of the bottle off, so that the neck will just barely be out of the water of you fill your sink to the top, and submerge the bottle. You then put a bowl in the twist-off cap. (make a small hole, use gum to seal the hole, you know the drill) Light your bowl, and pull the bottle out of the water slowly. The suction will draw the smoke into the bottle. When it is almost out of the water, untwist the cap, put your lips over the bottle neck; suck in while pushing the bottle into the water- instant shotgun.

Another one I've done down here is called a milkshake. Get a narrow glass tube (or straw if you have to). Attach a joint onto one side. Once it is lit, you put your mouth OVER the joint, and blow. The smoke will travel down the tube. If you do it properly, into a frosted glass, the smoke will settle at the bottom of the glass. Once the glass is full (it takes practice, and you have to do it slowly), hand the mug to whoever gets the milkshake. Tilt it up like you're drinking it, and breathe in instead of drinking. It looks like you're drinking the smoke.
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 11:59
Think organic, man. Organic.
yay for shrooooooooooooooooomies :fluffle:

tho i have tended to freak out on em tho (being depressed & taking em is probably not advisable) :(

Pure Metal, be a pal and buy some pot for ol' Neo Kervoskia?
sure no problem... whats the zip code for west dakota then? :p




and all this talk of waterfalls, bucketing, shotties, GBs, whatever that (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9812883&postcount=44)is (sounds like burning knives to me).... who needs em when you got your own uber hookah water pipe, eh? :P




edit:Oooo...peyote...I haven't done that since I was on the rez...freaky stuff.

i had the opportunity to do peyote once, but my mate (whose cactus it was - he grew em) decided to go to the pub instead. damn him!
DHomme
19-10-2005, 15:07
Salvia tastes like shit, so use a bong that you won't ever use again. It'll ruin the taste of your good bong, the smell stays forever. Oh, and proletariat of the world unite!

Iwas told to bong it through apple juice as it tastes so nasty normally.

Yay! Another pot-smoking communist! There seem to be a lot of us funnily enough....
Melkor Unchained
19-10-2005, 16:01
I own seven marijuana smoking devices. All of them are named:


Oscar - The 2 foot high dark orange and brown water bong with a swirl pattern around the chamber that turns into streaks as it climbs up the stem of the bong. This bong is nice and heavy; I could probably knock someone out with it fairly easily. All my pieces are built to last.

Blue - Blue is a beast. Blue is one of the sturdiest pieces I think I've ever seen: you could drive nails with this son of a bitch--even though he's glass. Blue is my second oldest pice and has seen its share of abuse. It's been dropped on hardwood dozens of times; it's rolled down a flight of hardwood stairs and was recently dropped on asphalt from about three or four feet up. Still intact.

Grond, Hammer of the Underworld - Grond is my bubbler. Grond has broken two dinner plates as a result of falling on them, and has, like Blue, earned the title of complete badass. Grons is my oldest pice; purchased in Greenwich Villag New York City in winter of 2004. I got a $10 discount for it because I was with a middle eastern girl at the time, whos country of origin was suitably close to the shopkeepers'.

Smoky - Smoky is a steamroller, and is my newest piece, purchased this summer at a local festival. Not much to say about Smoky really other than he will fuck you up. Grond and Smoky are probably my two most 'intense' devices.

Warren - Named after the late great Warren Zevon, Warren is a small, 4-5 inch long [as opposed to Blue's 6-7] bowl that's also about as thick as they get. Warren, having a smaller bowlpiece, is my preferred apparatus when smoking good weed--anything better than tendies or beasters goes into Warren.

The Green Meanie - Acrylic bong. Fallback piece. Hasn't been used since I got Gorgeous George.

Gorgeous George - Also one of my older pieces, Gorgeous George is my short glass bong [being that Oscar is two feet high]. Gorgeous George needs a new stem right now, so he's out of rotation. I really ought to fix that...

When I have the money, I'll generally buy a half ounce to an ounce every two weeks, depending on my finances; although lately I've been settling into the habit of smoking mainly on the weekends, as its easier to manage [not to mention finance that way, and it keeps me largely sober while I'm working through the week [nevermind that I work weekneds too...]. Since going to Amsterdam in December, I've been less interested in middle-of-the-road weed and have stuck primarily to kindbud for most of this year on account. Unfortunately, the weed I have right now isn't chronic; my guess is it's brick weed from the Tennessee Valley; right around this time of year that's what most of our mid-grade pot is in this state, since it all comes north from the farms in TN. It's not bad, but winter's crop will be better because that will all be homegrown shit. I love winter weed.
DHomme
19-10-2005, 17:22
You sound like you've got a fat set of bongs there but do you only use them? do you ever use joints, blunts, pipes, etc?

edit: Tonight Im doing salvia. Would it be possible to make a simple bong out of a plastic bottle, pipe and some blu tac?
Pure Metal
19-10-2005, 17:49
heh melkor's awesome list reminds me we call our hookah Shelly :)
she's a dirty ho (well she's a hooka isn't she? ;)) and she can take a bit of verbal abuse (ho is fine), but take it too far and she'll give a whitey you won't forget :p
seriously its true - i've seen a guy who's been smoking all his life (parents smoke too, see) get a nasty case of the spins and whitied out right infront of us because he went one too far dirty-talking shelly :D


edit: Tonight Im doing salvia. Would it be possible to make a simple bong out of a plastic bottle, pipe and some blu tac?
with a lighter, yes. burn hole high up in plastic bottle roughly where your thumb sits when holding said bottle, and another, smaller, hole round the other side, lower down (say, 5 cm from bottom). insert pipe (or i find the plastic outer-casing of a biro does well) into the lower hole and make air-tight with blutac. place joint in biro, fasten with more blutac, light, cover thumbhole completely, and you're away! i find those slightly square-ish HP sauce bottles work wonderfully for this (just the right shape/size)
however for salvia you're going to need some kind of a gauss to burn it on - a joint won't do. actually, it might *strokes beard*
have to see what the consensus is on that one :confused:


if you do need a gauss, you can reverse the bong technology round quite effectively (though i wouldn't advise doing this with a 'used' bong cos it'll taste nasty). get tinfoil, fold a piece so its 4 layers thick (i find works best for coals in hookah at least), poke holes in it with a pin and affix snugly (perhaps with more blutac) to the top of the bottle. take the biro/pipe out of the water, then cover thumbhole as usual and toke through the biro/pipe hole (this is why it shouldn't be a used bong!) while lighting the salvia up top. perhaps a two-man operation though and certainly not as good as a real bong (for a start this is more of a flute cos there's no water involved, but at least you can smoke it faster than a spliff). only real problem is plastic tends to... melt...

lemme know if it works!
Thekalu
19-10-2005, 20:11
Well, top of the list on a google for 'aluminum alzheimers' produced this link (http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/alzheimers.htm) in the number one position. I'm not a rabid anti-aluminum lobbyist, I don't come armed with links. It's just something I've heard every other year for ten or twenty years. So I stay clear, generally.

The official blurb is that the effect of elevated aluminum levels is undetermined. But before you dismiss it and go back to your pop-can, I did notice this statement halfway down: "Aluminum beverage cans are usually coated with a polymer to minimize such leaching".

Eeeew. Smoking polymers. Blecch.

:D

then to the trash with that pipe:D
The South Islands
19-10-2005, 20:16
My problem with Joints is that I have no Joints. :(

SEND ME WEED!
Ravea
19-10-2005, 21:26
I have a bubble pipe.

It shoots bubbles!

*Blub*
DHomme
20-10-2005, 15:04
Tried salvia....

interesting. I didnt hallucinate much which was a bit of a shame. Might be tempted to try shrooms some time.

Did see a big green wall that kept flashing orange and the shadows on my tent kept pulsing. I felt really mellow though and couldnt stop this really deep laugh I was doing though.

Would I do it again? Sure why not
Would I pay £7.50 to do it again? Probably not
Drunk commies deleted
20-10-2005, 15:10
Here we are- a highly practical thread were potsmokers should be free to discuss their favourite types of weed, methods of preparation, activities to enjoy after the big smoke and so on.

Let's get this going

I like this skunk I had 2 weeks ago with bright orange bits in it, it made me hallucinate for the first time ever on weed alone.

Word of warning- watch out for the extra dark bits in hash, they are most likely burnt in plastic. My reccomendation is to ignore British hash altogether as it is piss poor. Try continental or American, much smoother and tastier as well.

I like blueberry blunt skins and I once rolled a joint with little bits of chocolate in. It smoked nice and tasted gorgeous. However I was violently sick afterwards, although I had had a little vodka earlier so it may have been the combination and not the chocolate spliff itself.

I inted to do salvia next week. Any advice? past stories? bad trips? etc.. etc. etc.
Salvia is a bad trip machine. I tried it a few times. Once with just smoked leaves, no effect, quite harsh. A couple times with an extract I made from the leaves. Very intense delerium. No real visuals. Suicidal thoughts and a stupid urge to drive my car on such a mind-warping drug. Luckily my friends stopped me from trying to drive. I won't touch that stuff anymore.
Dobbsworld
20-10-2005, 21:04
My friend who's been experimenting with Salvia for several years has reported a number of really interesting, quite vivid experiences - but he's unwilling to write them off as 'hallucinations'.

In no particular order, he has:

- met the Lady Salvia and spoken with her
- toured the outskirts of a vast gleaming future-esque city
- joined in with (dozens? hundreds?) of 'people' taking rides on bizarre slide-like devices
- been told repeatedly by the 'people' he meets that it's "really important" that he enjoy this "place" while it lasts... there's some sort of notion that this other place is in danger of becoming impossible to access.

Basically, he thinks this other "place" is quite possibly as real as this continuum - that the salvia is the key to unlocking the door to another, parallel continuum. I'm planning my own first forays in this realm for late this coming winter or early next spring.

One mustn't rush into these things higgledy-piggledy I always say.
Pure Metal
21-10-2005, 22:20
Would I pay £7.50 to do it again? Probably not
heh you got off light - at download festival last year we had to pay 35 quid for a fucking gram:mad:

my experience with it was also quite disappointing: it was nighttime, and all i can remember is the bulb, hanging from the top pole of our tent, swinging reaally slowly, it being the only thing in the world, and somehow being able to see 'inside' the bulb. but i was also pissed as a newt so that might have something to do with it lol
times before that (not smoking extract) i got nothing at all. have resolved not to bother with it - just go for shrooms.

that said a friend of mine (who also grew the stuff) has told me about some pretty cool experiences he's had with it (kinda similar to the effects of woodrow seeds it would seem), so i guess it affects different people very differently.
DHomme
22-10-2005, 12:09
Basically, he thinks this other "place" is quite possibly as real as this continuum - that the salvia is the key to unlocking the door to another, parallel continuum.

Hmmmm.... perhaps an elaborate conspiracy theory is required in this situation?
Eutrusca
22-10-2005, 12:19
"Joint problems?"

Not really, although my knees tend to pop when I stand up after sitting for more than an hour or so. ;)
Harlesburg
22-10-2005, 12:26
I injured my Shoulder playing Cricket last season.
I was a bit enthusiastic throwing the ball in from the boundry and when i released the ball i heard this crack i didnt think that was too good but i didnt actually feel any pain until i tried to raise my arm above my head after the game.
The thing just kept clicking and the first time i did it this searing pain went straight through my arm.
So i didnt raise it much for a while though when playing Cricket i obviously had to use it.
Magical Purple Cows
22-10-2005, 14:01
When it's a cold day and I'm running, my hips will pop. Usually after my body heats up my hips go back to being normal. Also, when I'm playing the violin, my knuckles on my left hand sometimes freeze up. Oh, and we musnt forket the knuckle that I can pop without doing anything...
DHomme
22-10-2005, 15:25
Yes well done, you have now realised that the title was a play on words. You have all earned a ten bag.
The Tribes Of Longton
22-10-2005, 15:42
Yes well done, you have now realised that the title was a play on words. You have all earned a ten bag.
Thank fuck for that - I've been having some trouble getting decent skunk since I moved to uneh. In fact, I had to get some chavalicious skunk the other night because no-one else has any. It was a twenty bag of complete shit, but not in a good way. :(
Dobbsworld
22-10-2005, 15:58
My Silver Haze harvest continues unabated.
DHomme
27-10-2005, 19:50
I havent heard anyone suggest what their favourite activities to do are after getting stoned?

I really enjoy (if ive had a little alcohol which tends to speed me up if ive mixed) chatting politics with some little conservative 14 year olds really fast and just watch them get more and more scared as i get louder and angrier until i break into a clenched fist salute and shout "Viva la revolution"

I also just enjoy watching south park/family guy :D
THE LOST PLANET
27-10-2005, 20:16
Jeez.. I was horrified reading through this thread to learn that some of you actually still put alcohol in your bongs.

Where have I gone wrong... I've posted this information on this forum a couple of times before..are you all too stoned to comprehend?

Listen up children, time to catch a clue. Alcohol will disolve some of the canibinols out of the smoke. Translated for those of you with George Bush size IQ's, it won't get you as high.

Also lose the ice and chilled water. It has the same effect. Luke warm water removes more carcinogens and leaves more canibinols than cold water.

I know... goes against conventional wisdom, everybody does it, yada yada....

Trust me people... I know what I'm talking about.
DHomme
27-10-2005, 20:29
Jeez.. I was horrified reading through this thread to learn that some of you actually still put alcohol in your bongs.

Where have I gone wrong... I've posted this information on this forum a couple of times before..are you all too stoned to comprehend?

Listen up children, time to catch a clue. Alcohol will disolve some of the canibinols out of the smoke. Translated for those of you with George Bush size IQ's, it won't get you as high.

Also lose the ice and chilled water. It has the same effect. Luke warm water removes more carcinogens and leaves more canibinols than cold water.

I know... goes against conventional wisdom, everybody does it, yada yada....

Trust me people... I know what I'm talking about.

*Bows down to the weed knowledge*

Ill stick with apple juice. Tasty as.
Ommbababamow
27-10-2005, 20:34
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DrunkenDove
27-10-2005, 22:16
I've been thinking about growing my own recently. Anyone got any advice or tips?
Hiberniae
27-10-2005, 22:28
I've been thinking about growing my own recently. Anyone got any advice or tips?
http://www.growing-marijuana-seeds.com/growing-marijuana.html
DHomme
28-10-2005, 00:56
I bought a bong while I was down in Camden! Haggled it from 15 pounds to 10! Cant wait to test it out

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/3600/bong3tr.jpg

I also found an unopened packet of apricot baccy which ill use with the bong and some good skunk! should be good
Melkor Unchained
28-10-2005, 00:59
I've been thinking about growing my own recently. Anyone got any advice or tips?
Inside our outside?

Interesting that this thread got bumped back up again when it did, as I just finished smoking a strawberry blunt.

Good times.
DrunkenDove
28-10-2005, 01:01
Inside our outside?

Interesting that this thread got bumped back up again when it did, as I just finished smoking a strawberry blunt.

Good times.

Inside.
Melkor Unchained
28-10-2005, 01:02
If you have anything other than a 300 watt High Pressure Sodium light assembly, throw it out and go buy the HPS. How much are you trying to grow? Are you doing dirt or hydro?
DrunkenDove
28-10-2005, 01:08
If you have anything other than a 300 watt High Pressure Sodium light assembly, throw it out and go buy the HPS. How much are you trying to grow? Are you doing dirt or hydro?

Around ten ounces. Hydro, most lightly using the sea of green technique.
Melkor Unchained
28-10-2005, 01:33
Around ten ounces. Hydro, most lightly using the sea of green technique.
Unofrtunately my knowledge is more centered around growing smaller crops in dirt, which is sort of funny because that's the esaxct opposite of what you seem to be doing. A web search would probably be more productive for you if you want to go for the sea of green, as the only real practical advice I can offer is to keep your crop staggered so you're harvesting constantly [if you can]. Also, if you can afford to, you should buy a bigass aquarium and stick it within eyeshot of the door [be sure to maintain it properly too] in case the fuzz starts worrying about your electricty usage, which happens frequently. Your energy bill will spike drastically after you start giving your plants full light, and remember that while they might not be able to outright search your house because the think you're growing, a sudden spike in your energy bill may be taken as evidence. It won't be enough to issue a warrant but the cops will feel pretty stupid once they see that pimp-ass aquarium [or other energy intensive device].
Pure Metal
28-10-2005, 01:42
I havent heard anyone suggest what their favourite activities to do are after getting stoned?

I really enjoy (if ive had a little alcohol which tends to speed me up if ive mixed) chatting politics with some little conservative 14 year olds really fast and just watch them get more and more scared as i get louder and angrier until i break into a clenched fist salute and shout "Viva la revolution"

I also just enjoy watching south park/family guy :D
fuck yeah family guy it is! i tend to just veg out and eat plenty of tasty, tasty snacks after getting monged. can attempt to play some form of videogame but i usually suck too much and can't pay enough attention. also, talking bollocks is always good ;)


tho for the best post-stoned experience get yourself some E - you'll be stoned, but really awake, and have loads of energy for doing stuff... its sweet :D
playing smash bros melee is fucking awesome on those two together. get in some booze too and you're in for a good night :p



damnit i gotta take a weekend trip back to uni and get mashed again :(
Cannot think of a name
28-10-2005, 05:24
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/errmPLANTSyesLEGALPLANTS/5er6weeks/c565baac.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/errmPLANTSyesLEGALPLANTS/5er6weeks/6a0c2519.jpg
Quality.
Undelia
28-10-2005, 05:27
I like hash browns…
DrunkenDove
28-10-2005, 05:29
I like hash browns…

Who doesn't?
Kreitzmoorland
28-10-2005, 06:13
Who doesn't?Did anyone else think this thread was about arthritis and joint inflamation?
I had this image of all the old geezers on NS moaning, and thus, avoided it.

Boy was I wrong.
Ommbababamow
28-10-2005, 06:31
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/errmPLANTSyesLEGALPLANTS/plants001.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/errmPLANTSyesLEGALPLANTS/4weeks/214d9fa1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y79/Goomg/errmPLANTSyesLEGALPLANTS/5er6weeks/fea802c1.jpg
Krisconsin
28-10-2005, 17:21
Did anyone else think this thread was about arthritis and joint inflamation?
I had this image of all the old geezers on NS moaning, and thus, avoided it.

Boy was I wrong.

lol
Dobbsworld
28-10-2005, 17:22
Well, weed does work pretty well for those minor aches and pains, come to think of it...
DHomme
28-10-2005, 17:23
Did anyone else think this thread was about arthritis and joint inflamation?


I'm pretty sure a little weed can help clear that up as well.

I love this thread
Sierra BTHP
28-10-2005, 17:24
Well, weed does work pretty well for those minor aches and pains, come to think of it...

I find it is better than Valium or Xanax when you come home pissed off at the end of the day. Gets rid of road rage, office frustrations, etc.
Dobbsworld
28-10-2005, 17:39
Okay, I got this from a friend - no link that I could discern, but interesting nonetheless...

Study turns pot wisdom on head

Calgary — Forget the stereotype about dopey potheads. It seems marijuana could be good for your brain.

While other studies have shown that periodic use of marijuana can cause memory loss and impair learning and a host of other health problems down the road, new research suggests the drug could have some benefits when administered regularly in a highly potent form.

Most "drugs of abuse" such as alcohol, heroin, cocaine and nicotine suppress growth of new brain cells. However, researchers found that cannabinoids promoted generation of new neurons in rats' hippocampuses.

Hippocampuses are the part of the brain responsible for learning and memory, and the study held true for either plant-derived or the synthetic version of cannabinoids.

"This is quite a surprise," said Xia Zhang, an associate professor with the Neuropsychiatry Research Unit at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon.

"Chronic use of marijuana may actually improve learning memory when the new neurons in the hippocampus can mature in two or three months," he added.

The research by Dr. Zhang and a team of international researchers is to be published in the November issue of the Journal of Clinical Investigation, but their findings are on-line now.

The scientists also noticed that cannabinoids curbed depression and anxiety, which Dr. Zhang says, suggests a correlation between neurogenesis and mood swings. (Or, it at least partly explains the feelings of relaxation and euphoria of a pot-induced high.)

Other scientists have suggested that depression is triggered when too few new brain cells are created in the hippocampus. One researcher of neuropharmacology said he was "puzzled" by the findings.

As enthusiastic as Dr. Zhang is about the potential health benefits, he warns against running out for a toke in a bid to beef up brain power or calm nerves.

The team injected laboratory rats with a synthetic substance called HU-210, which is similar, but 100 times as potent as THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), the compound responsible for giving marijuana users a high.

They found that the rats treated regularly with a high dose of HU-210 -- twice a day for 10 days -- showed growth of neurons in the hippocampus. The researchers don't know if pot, which isn't as pure as the lab-produced version, would have the same effect.

"There's a big gap between rats and humans," Dr. Zhang points out.

But there is a lot of interest -- and controversy -- around the use of cannabinoids to improve human health.

Cannabinoids, such as marijuana and hashish, have been used to address pain, nausea, vomiting, seizures caused by epilepsy, ischemic stroke, cerebral trauma, tumours, multiple sclerosis and a host of other maladies.

There are herbal cannabinoids, which come from the cannabis plant, and the bodies of humans and animals produce endogenous cannabinoids. The substance can also be designed in the lab.

Cannabinoids can trigger the body's two cannabinoid receptors, which control the activity of various cells in the body.

One receptor, known as CB1, is found primarily in the brain. The other receptor, CB2, was thought to be found only in the immune system.

However, in a separate study to be published today in the journal Science, a group of international researchers have located the CB2 receptor in the brain stems of rats, mice and ferrets.

The brain stem is responsible for basic body function such as breathing and the gastrointestinal tract. If stimulated in a certain way, CB2 could be harnessed to eliminate the nausea and vomiting associated with post-operative analgesics or cancer and AIDS treatments, according to the researchers.

"Ultimately, new therapies could be developed as a result of these findings," said Keith Sharkey, a gastrointestinal neuroscientist at the University of Calgary, lead author of the study.

(Scientists are trying to find ways to block CB1 as a way to decrease food cravings and limit dependence on tobacco.)

When asked whether his findings explain why some swear by pot as a way to avoid the queasy feeling of a hangover, Dr. Sharkey paused and replied: "It does not explain the effects of smoked or inhaled or ingested substances."
DHomme
29-10-2005, 01:04
I just a had an impact to myself. :) i lurrrvve impacts
DHomme
19-11-2005, 03:15
Got completely fucked off 6 spliffs tonight. Three of which were in a car hotboxing the fuck out of it. I had some proper nice bud which had loads of THC and made me really lazy yet mentally active at the same time.

I decided to bust out this thread for such an occasion- hope it's not gravedigging