NationStates Jolt Archive

http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2005/50StatePOTUS1005SortedbyApproval.htm

The highlights

Bush is at 50 percent or above in only six states: Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Nebraska and Oklahoma.

Utah, at 61/36, is the only state above 60 percent.

In May, Bush was above 50 percent in 13 states. In September, it was down to 10 states.

25 states are now below 40 percent.

Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts are all under 30 percent. Bush is 29/70 in Rhode Island.

Overall, Bush is at 38/59, another new low.

Bing on '06!

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http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2005/50StatePOTUS1005SortedbyApproval.htm

The highlights

Bush is at 50 percent or above in only six states: Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Nebraska and Oklahoma.

Utah, at 61/36, is the only state above 60 percent.

In May, Bush was above 50 percent in 13 states. In September, it was down to 10 states.

25 states are now below 40 percent.

Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts are all under 30 percent. Bush is 29/70 in Rhode Island.

Overall, Bush is at 38/59, another new low.

Bing on '06!

Almost a shame he didn't have this lack of support in the election, although on reflection, he probably did:p

Where the fuck were all these people on November of 2004? Bush's bad approval rating does nothing now. It can't take him out of office.

fantastic,maybe that will get his white butt out of vacation and actually try to run this country or atleast put up a better effort in fooling us lol.Its ok we all know bush is a hand puppet.

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Bing on '06![/QUOTE]

What does '06 have to do w/ it? He's not up for re-election?

What does '06 have to do w/ it? He's not up for re-election?

He means it hasn't even gotten started yet. There's much, much more to come in '06.

What does '06 have to do w/ it? He's not up for re-election?

Are the elections in '06, i though they happened every 4 years?

So what? His approval rating is irrelevant now, he already got elected, its too late now.

they do happen every four years,i think what their trying to say is his disapproval percentage is going to increase in 06

they do happen every four years,i think what their trying to say is his disapproval percentage is going to increase in 06

Ok then, however, Bush has served his purpose, he has obtained a second term, it is likely a totally unconnected candiadte will run in '08.

Are the elections in '06, i though they happened every 4 years?The mid term elections are in '06. Many congressmen and senators are up for reelection.

he cant run in 08 lol a president can only be elected for 2 terms

Are the elections in '06, i though they happened every 4 years?

Yep! Bring it on! Yea! I want to see the Republicans kick the Democrats right in the ass by winning seats in Congress, the Senate, and state government races. Another Republican revolution is coming.

What I find most disturbingly hilarious is the fact that he's running a 44% dissaproval rating in Idaho. Where in the nation can you possibly find a more quintessentially Republican crowd; hell follow-the-leader crowd to call a spade a spade, and yet he still can't get the support of six in ten of them.

Yep! Bring it on! Yea! I want to see the Republicans kick the Democrats right in the ass by winning seats in Congress, the Senate, and state government races. Another Republican revolution is coming.
Wishfull thinking. Unless there are some shenanigans in the elections, of course. We all know that doesn't happen in the US of A.

the republicans are going to have a hard time now,tom delay,frisc,and karl rose bush's right hand man.the three knock out republicans are under investigation.and the hole thing about tom delay.ill be very surpised if the republicans even make it in the 06, let alone the 08.with all this choas in the republican party,i dont think we have to worry that much

Yep! Bring it on! Yea! I want to see the Republicans kick the Democrats right in the ass by winning seats in Congress, the Senate, and state government races. Another Republican revolution is coming.

Dude, you need to give me some of whatever it is you're on, cuz it must be really good to cause halucinations like that. When the dems win back the majorities the impeachment process will begin, and I can't wait to taste the sweet milk of your tears!

What I find most disturbingly hilarious is the fact that he's running a 44% dissaproval rating in Idaho. Where in the nation can you possibly find a more quintessentially Republican crowd; hell follow-the-leader crowd to call a spade a spade, and yet he still can't get the support of six in ten of them.
that is hilrious,i most definately agree.....but you cant blame idaho for not liking the man

Dude, you need to give me some of whatever it is you're on, cuz it must be really good to cause halucinations like that. When the dems win back the majorities the impeachment process will begin, and I can't wait to taste the sweet milk of your tears!
You’re both fucking ridiculous. A major shift in US politics due to an election? Not in this age.

You’re both fucking ridiculous. A major shift in US politics due to an election? Not in this age.I agree with you on that,but you dont know if that wont happen in this age.

Dude, you need to give me some of whatever it is you're on, cuz it must be really good to cause halucinations like that. When the dems win back the majorities the impeachment process will begin, and I can't wait to taste the sweet milk of your tears!

:p What is this, "see who can make the most exaggerated claim" hour?

Okay then: I think the GOP will gain 218 seats in the Senate, and 415 seats in the House in '06, along with an additional 58 state Governorships.. then after Justice Scalia retires from the Supreme Court to become President in 2008, he'll appoint one of his kids to replace himself on the Court and host a weeinie roast, featuring real Vienna Beef franks, to celebrate the DNC's bankruptcy. :) Top that one!

:p What is this, "see who can make the most exaggerated claim" hour?

Okay then: I think the GOP will gain 218 seats in the Senate, and 415 seats in the House in '06, along with an additional 58 state Governorships.. then after Justice Scalia retires from the Supreme Court to become President in 2008, he'll appoint one of his kids to replace himself on the Court and host a weeinie roast, featuring real Vienna Beef franks, to celebrate the DNC's bankruptcy. :) Top that one! you prolly believe in the tooth fairy too.lol tell the easter bunny i said Wuz up :p Top that one!Word to your mother

Dude, you need to give me some of whatever it is you're on, cuz it must be really good to cause halucinations like that. When the dems win back the majorities the impeachment process will begin, and I can't wait to taste the sweet milk of your tears!

I'll bet you a cookie right now: 1. The Republicans pick up seats. 2. There will be no impeachment. Bet?

I'll bet you a cookie right now: 1. The Republicans pick up seats. 2. There will be no impeachment. Bet?
I'll bet against you on number one. I think we're going to see a net loss of seats for the Republicans.

I'll bet against you on number one. I think we're going to see a net loss of seats for the Republicans.I Agree

I'll bet you a cookie right now: 1. The Republicans pick up seats. 2. There will be no impeachment. Bet?

I can't wait to get a taste of that cookie! Good (and by that I mean bad) luck on that. ;)

I'll bet against you on number one. I think we're going to see a net loss of seats for the Republicans.

The Republicans are already starting to divorce themselves from Bush over Myers and immigration. They can come up with a platform to run on without the President, and I have no doubt they will.

The Democrats are to divided to come up with a united platform. They have no issues to run on.

People are starting to wake up to the above and will vote Republican. There will be a net gain in both the House and Senate for the Republicans. They will also capture some governorship, which will set the stage for a huge victory in 08.

I'll bet you a cookie right now: 1. The Republicans pick up seats. 2. There will be no impeachment. Bet?Cash or Credit?

I can't wait to get a taste of that cookie! Good (and by that I mean bad) luck on that. ;)

My favorite is choclate chip, but don't buy it now as I like them warm out of the oven. :D

Cash or Credit?

Cookies only.

The Republicans are already starting to divorce themselves from Bush over Myers and immigration. They can come up with a platform to run on without the President, and I have no doubt they will.

The Democrats are to divided to come up with a united platform. They have no issues to run on.

People are starting to wake up to the above and will vote Republican. There will be a net gain in both the House and Senate for the Republicans. They will also capture some governorship, which will set the stage for a huge victory in 08.
Democrats can run as anti-Bush. They can paint themselves as the "we told you so" party. They can say that giving the Republicans control of the congress as well as the white house was a mistake, the Republicans have made a mess, and the Democrats can clean it up. Alot of people will go for that.

Some will vote against Republicans to spite Bush, and you can bet the Black community is motivated. They usually don't turn out big for mid term elections IIRC, but I predict that this mid term will be an exception.

Why did it take the US 5 years what it took me a year and a half to figure out? Our politicians have been calling Bush a moron PUBLICALLY for years. :eek:

Why did it take the US 5 years what it took me a year and a half to figure out? Our politicians have been calling Bush a moron PUBLICALLY for years. :eek: hara haza and bonzi for you lol"bing bing" lets go to are polls johnny! and survey say's bush is a moron lol

Democrats can run as anti-Bush...snip...

An anti-Bush platform will not work for two reasons. First, everyone knows they are against Bush anyway. Secondly, everyone knows after the next election Bush moves into the "lame duck" category.

If the Democrats really want to win, they need to come up with a united platform. They need to emphasize issues such as immigration, tax reform, and Social Security.

Why did it take the US 5 years what it took me a year and a half to figure out? Our politicians have been calling Bush a moron PUBLICALLY for years. :eek:
It didn't take the entire US that ammount of time to realize it. Personally I've never voted for the guy.

Where the fuck were all these people on November of 2004? Bush's bad approval rating does nothing now. It can't take him out of office.

Well if things don't improve by 2006, Republican reps and senators can't use his coattail to help their elections.

It also works with many of his plans as he goes lame duck......

Why did it take the US 5 years what it took me a year and a half to figure out? Our politicians have been calling Bush a moron PUBLICALLY for years. :eek:

If you are refering to the Democratic politicians like Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, Sharpton, etc. you are correct.

An anti-Bush platform will not work for two reasons. First, everyone knows they are against Bush anyway. Secondly, everyone knows after the next election Bush moves into the "lame duck" category.

If the Democrats really want to win, they need to come up with a united platform. They need to emphasize issues such as immigration, tax reform, and Social Security.
Tax reform? Social Security? Bush's screwed the pooch on both. The Dems can come out and say that they'll put taxes back to where they were before the Bush tax cuts, and that they'll leave Social Security alone and average Joe Sixpack will gladly go along with it.

It's funny though how people aren't saying the democrats are any good, but just how bad the republicans are. It's a shame they can't get support from actually being a decent party as opposed to not being as bad as the opposition, but that's politics for you.

It's funny though how people aren't saying the democrats are any good, but just how bad the republicans are. It's a shame they can't get support from actually being a decent party as opposed to not being as bad as the opposition, but that's politics for you.
Personally I think they're OK. Not great, because they're still owned by big business and paid for by those hefty campaign contributions.

An anti-Bush platform will not work for two reasons. First, everyone knows they are against Bush anyway. Secondly, everyone knows after the next election Bush moves into the "lame duck" category.

If the Democrats really want to win, they need to come up with a united platform. They need to emphasize issues such as immigration, tax reform, and Social Security.we do need to emphasize on immigration,tax reform and social security.you must deal with pressing economical and social issue's in a equilable manner,so the GOP can find no faults.

I'll bet against you on number one. I think we're going to see a net loss of seats for the Republicans.


You're probably right, but somehow I doubt the Dems will get a majority in either House. The Senate, maybe though doubtful. The House, no way. It's very hard to unseat an incumbent, much less a lot of them. But the GOP can forget having fillibuster-proof majorities.

It's funny though how people aren't saying the democrats are any good, but just how bad the republicans are. It's a shame they can't get support from actually being a decent party as opposed to not being as bad as the opposition, but that's politics for you.


Especially American politics.

Tax reform? Social Security? Bush's screwed the pooch on both.

Yea he did. He missed the chance for real SS reform. He may miss the boat for real tax reform. He defiantly missed the boat on the last legislation on highways. He should have done the veto trick but I guess he agrees Anchorage needs a million dollar bus stop. :(

The Dems can come out and say that they'll put taxes back to where they were before the Bush tax cuts, and that they'll leave Social Security alone and average Joe Sixpack will gladly go along with it.

People don't want the taxes back where they were. Even the lowest income people don't want to see their tax cut taken away from them. With what is happening to company pension programs Joe is becoming more interested in Social Security and wondering if it will be there for s/him or if s/he is going to have to work all of their life.

Although I am a Republican, I don't agree with Bush on all the issues. I will admit he has made a mistake on some issues but I sincerely believe the Republicans can win seats in 06 if they divorce themselves from Bush and get busy on the issues the people are concerned with.

Where the fuck were all these people on November of 2004? Bush's bad approval rating does nothing now. It can't take him out of office.
What do you know? Someone else realized the fallacy of these popularity polls. These polls are absolutely meaningless if they don't focus on likely voters. Even being registered doesn't matter if you aren't going to vote.

Like I've said before, the last popularity poll on Bush that mattered was taken in November, 2004.

Celtlund i have a question for you. a hypotheical question,if a good democrat pops up that you agree with,would you either vote for him or go with the republican ticket

Celtlund i have a question for you. a hypotheical question,if a good democrat pops up that you agree with,would you either vote for him or go with the republican ticket

Vote for him or her. I may be a Republican but I firmly believe in voting for the best candidate. I have voted for independent candidates for President and worked on the campaign for an independent who was running for Governor of Oklahoma.

So what? His approval rating is irrelevant now, he already got elected, its too late now.
But hopfully that will have a plesent backlash on the rest of the republican party at a local and state level

But hopfully that will have a plesent backlash on the rest of the republican party at a local and state level
Unlikely. The Democratic party has such a dearth of ideas, they will not be able to stop the decline that they've been in since 1994.

Cookies only.
You guys are wimps. You should bet something substantial, like signatures.

Like some posters with balls (in case you're asking, no-I'm not one of them) bet thier sigs in the election. If you guys had some...



(and again, no-I'm not one of them...you're all old enough to know now that it's only the true pansies that question the guts of others...)

Okay, this needs to be said, people: Before you second-guess Buish's intelligence and start basing his opinions on how badly he does his speeches, consider this possibility: Perhaps George Bush, jr. has untreated dyslexia, hmm? Think about it. In almost every one of his speeches, he's had trouble in them. Why? Because he didn't practice them and it's hard for him to read what he's supposed to say. Perhaps the reason he's not doing such a grand job with being president is because he's not comepletely sure what he's doing because he can't read up to our own standards.

Now, I'm not proffessional, nor do I know too many dyslexics, but I can tell that he has some sort of reading problem, that's evident. If someone in the US government has a shred of common sense, tehy'll eventually realize and advise them to help the President out. George could be a lot better, in my opinion, if we paid attention to how much trouble he's having and how much frustration he's having and did something about it. Something that a lot ofpeople have to realize is the fact he's a human, too, with civil liberties. You should all think about this possibility before judging him on anything again.

But hopfully that will have a plesent backlash on the rest of the republican party at a local and state level

Not unless the Democrats actually start offering something as an alternative. All they're doing is stonewalling everything that doesn't agree with their ideology while offering nothing in return. Clinton won on ideas and vision, not the half-ass partisanship we saw in 2004.

If they don't, the only thing that will happen is more voters will simply stop voting.

Not unless the Democrats actually start offering something as an alternative. All they're doing is stonewalling everything that doesn't agree with their ideology while offering nothing in return. Clinton won on ideas and vision, not the half-ass partisanship we saw in 2004.

If they don't, the only thing that will happen is more voters will simply stop voting.
I am hoping for a mass turn to libertarianism :p

http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2005/50StatePOTUS1005SortedbyApproval.htm

The highlights

Bush is at 50 percent or above in only six states: Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Nebraska and Oklahoma.

Utah, at 61/36, is the only state above 60 percent.

In May, Bush was above 50 percent in 13 states. In September, it was down to 10 states.

25 states are now below 40 percent.

Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts are all under 30 percent. Bush is 29/70 in Rhode Island.

Overall, Bush is at 38/59, another new low.

Bing on '06!


So, you're saying that Bush should have done what Clinton did - before making any policy decision, take a poll to find out which way the wind blows?

After all, for a lame duck President, popularity is everything...

So, you're saying that Bush should have done what Clinton did - before making any policy decision, take a poll to find out which way the wind blows?

After all, for a lame duck President, popularity is everything...
There has to be some happy medum between caving to public opinion and being an idiodic jackass who does not listen to the people he represents

There has to be some happy medum between caving to public opinion and being an idiodic jackass who does not listen to the people he represents

Well, old Bill was popular because that's exactly what he did - take a poll before doing anything.

You would think that Bush would at least listen to the neocons, but he isn't even doing that.

Well, old Bill was popular because that's exactly what he did - take a poll before doing anything.

You would think that Bush would at least listen to the neocons, but he isn't even doing that.
Yeah ... While I like neither of there style personaly I would error on the side of representing my constituants before ignoring everyone

At least for most things ... I can understand sometimes the decision just HAS to be made though

The mid term elections are in '06. Many congressmen and senators are up for reelection.

Specifically, the entire House, and 1/3 (more or less) of the Senate.

Congressional districts are so radically gerrymandered these days that few of them are truly competitive, howver. Most of them are "safe" seats for one party or the other. The Senate has a few competitive races, but not many. So it's going to take a minor miracle for that to happen.

However, such minor miracles have happened before. Anyone else remember 1994? This time, Howard Dean could play the role of Newt Gingrich - he's crazy enough, and ideologically driven enough.

:p

An anti-Bush platform will not work for two reasons. First, everyone knows they are against Bush anyway. Secondly, everyone knows after the next election Bush moves into the "lame duck" category.

If the Democrats really want to win, they need to come up with a united platform. They need to emphasize issues such as immigration, tax reform, and Social Security.


That would be very easy "We are against everything the Republicans voted for." Instant 40 seats in the Senate and a hundred in the House. I mean, the only way to reform Social Security is to pay into it as much as we're supposed to. Dems would tax the rich again, and immigration is a non-issue. We'll bring up our own issues, like Healthcare and increased Education Spending!

Vote for him or her. I may be a Republican but I firmly believe in voting for the best candidate. I have voted for independent candidates for President and worked on the campaign for an independent who was running for Governor of Oklahoma.


Yeah, the Constitution party.

I really don't think it matters if his popularity is slipping. He's already got a lock on the Conservative Christian: a group of people that are used to being told what to do, how to think, and not ask questions because they believe better times are ahead if they simply do what they are told. They may not be going in the right direction, but they're all going in the same direction, which gives them an advantage over everyone else.