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Jack Thompson and the Gaming industry

UpwardThrust
18-10-2005, 18:46
The first part of this post is about his latest bullshit antics

Backround
Jack Thompson is an atourny that is actively attempting to censor and prosecute gaming companies such as rockstar for their product (specifically blaming deaths on games and attempting compensation for it)

Now while I don’t agree with that part our problem (gamers) is his whole attitude of over the top exaggeration of everything


Now his latest antics

He went on dateline and vowed to donate 10k dollars to charity if anyone designed a game where you killed game company executives and their families

No big surprise someone did

And also no big surprise this idiot rescinded his offer calling the offer “satire”
So penny arcade steps up the plate and DONATES the money FOR Jack Thompson to charity

Guess what he does

Files a lawsuit … and writes a letter to their local PD claming harassment and attempting to get the people at penny arcade fired

Jackass … reneges on his deal and has the balls to sue someone for DONATING TO CHAIRITY
Now I don’t think I can properly convey the idiocy of the situation
Here is some info on it to better help understand

http://penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-17 (penny arcade with all sorts of info)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/110152.html about his letter to the police
Some of his idiotic emails http://www.vgcats.com/jack.php
Dakini
18-10-2005, 18:50
That has to be the stupidest thing ever.
UpwardThrust
18-10-2005, 19:09
That has to be the stupidest thing ever.
I agree …I know I am not good at conveying my incredulity but still
Economic Associates
18-10-2005, 19:15
You know this isn't the way a lawyer should act. Someone should disbar him.
Cspalla
18-10-2005, 19:17
The single greatest piece of evidence video games do not cause violence: Jack Thompson is still alive.
Galloism
18-10-2005, 19:22
Those e-mails were fucking hilarious.

http://www.technoplus.com/images/crying_baby.gif
Super American VX Man
18-10-2005, 19:41
The single greatest piece of evidence video games do not cause violence: Jack Thompson is still alive.


Haha! So true...
Uber Awesome
18-10-2005, 19:45
The single greatest piece of evidence video games do not cause violence: Jack Thompson is still alive.

Agreed. Besides, as for video games inspiring violence:

"That was a good game of Quake III. Now, should I play more Quake, or go commit a violent crime and end up being buttraped in jail... yeah, I think I'll commit the crime"
- a figment of socially conservative imagination
The Soviet Americas
18-10-2005, 19:56
You know this isn't the way a lawyer should act. Someone should disbar him.
Call the Florida Bar Assocation and tell them that!

The Florida Bar
651 E. Jefferson Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-2300
(850) 561-5600
Economic Associates
18-10-2005, 20:36
Call the Florida Bar Assocation and tell them that!

The Florida Bar
651 E. Jefferson Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-2300
(850) 561-5600

lol I should give them a call.
Teh_pantless_hero
18-10-2005, 20:58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=450043
Zexaland
19-10-2005, 02:44
The first part of this post is about his latest bullshit antics

Backround
Jack Thompson is an atourny that is actively attempting to censor and prosecute gaming companies such as rockstar for their product (specifically blaming deaths on games and attempting compensation for it)

Now while I don’t agree with that part our problem (gamers) is his whole attitude of over the top exaggeration of everything


Now his latest antics

He went on dateline and vowed to donate 10k dollars to charity if anyone designed a game where you killed game company executives and their families

No big surprise someone did

And also no big surprise this idiot rescinded his offer calling the offer “satire”
So penny arcade steps up the plate and DONATES the money FOR Jack Thompson to charity

Guess what he does

Files a lawsuit … and writes a letter to their local PD claming harassment and attempting to get the people at penny arcade fired

Jackass … reneges on his deal and has the balls to sue someone for DONATING TO CHAIRITY
Now I don’t think I can properly convey the idiocy of the situation
Here is some info on it to better help understand

http://penny-arcade.com/news.php?date=2005-10-17 (penny arcade with all sorts of info)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/gamepolitics/110152.html about his letter to the police
Some of his idiotic emails http://www.vgcats.com/jack.php

:rolleyes: I knew I sensed a disturbance in the force...
Zexaland
19-10-2005, 03:06
And here's Jack's STAGGERINGLY profound thoughts on Islam:rolleyes: :

"The Bible doesn't promote killing innocent people. Grand Theft Auto does. Islam does. Islam promotes the killing of innocent people. The Quran requires the infidel, whether Jew or Christian, to be killed. … That's a core essence of the religion. … Muhammad was a pirate who killed infidels and who advocated the killing of infidels. Not a nice guy. Osama bin Laden is in keeping with his fine tradition."

Ummmm...nope...wrong...My sources say Muhammad was against the killing of Jews and Christians (unfortunately, some Muslims tend to forget that, e.g. Osama) and I doubt he was ever a "prirate" who "killed infidels" (Islam states you can inslave infidels, but not kill them or stop them from practising their own religion, another fact some Muslims tend to forget). While Islam, like all belief systems, certainly has its problems and odd bits (The Crusades, 9/11, etc.), it also has its loving and benevolent side. Thompson seems to be a fan of throwing ahellva alotta stones in a glass house...:rolleyes:
DrunkenDove
19-10-2005, 04:02
The oddest thing is that he actually replies to the e-mail he's getting. If I was at war with the entire gaming community I'd just have a standard e-mail reply like "I don't care about your opinions"
Also he seems to threaten every single website that lampoons him. How does he find all this shit? If there were multiple webpages devoted to killing me I wouldn't have a clue. The internet is a big place. But he find every single one and threatens them. Odd.
Katganistan
19-10-2005, 04:08
Hmmmmmm, have we not witnessed on the internet attention whores who plant posts showing that others are out to get them?
New Sans
19-10-2005, 04:13
Hmmmmmm, have we not witnessed on the internet attention whores who plant posts showing that others are out to get them?

You mean Jack Thompson posts here? :eek:
Ravenshrike
19-10-2005, 04:41
Jack Thompson is to the video-gaming industry what Fred Phleps is to anything he doesn't like; that is to say, a completely fucking irrational lunatic.
LazyHippies
19-10-2005, 04:58
My problem with this whole story is that none of it comes from reputable sources. What we have here is a link to a blog found on a game enthusiast website, a link to somebody's live journal entry (another personal blog), and a link to another game site with posts alleging to be emails from Jack Thompson. Let's just say Im underwhelmed. The old addage "if it's on the internet then it must be true" is meant as a joke you know. Does anyone have links to credible reports on this story?
Teh_pantless_hero
19-10-2005, 05:09
My problem with this whole story is that none of it comes from reputable sources. What we have here is a link to a blog found on a game enthusiast website, a link to somebody's live journal entry (another personal blog), and a link to another game site with posts alleging to be emails from Jack Thompson. Let's just say Im underwhelmed. The old addage "if it's on the internet then it must be true" is meant as a joke you know. Does anyone have links to credible reports on this story?
The myriad of websites isn't enough? These people have no reason to fabricate this crap, hell VGCats had their email stuff up before making Jack Thompson look like the lunatic ass he is was fashionable.
Bolol
19-10-2005, 05:34
I'd pay real money to play a game where you get to kill Jack Thompson.

Are you listening Rockstar? Capcom, I'm looking in your direction!
LazyHippies
19-10-2005, 05:41
The myriad of websites isn't enough? These people have no reason to fabricate this crap, hell VGCats had their email stuff up before making Jack Thompson look like the lunatic ass he is was fashionable.

The people who posted these things are game enthusiasts. Jack Thompson is fighting against the game industry. So, of course they have no reason to make stuff up :rolleyes:
Teh_pantless_hero
19-10-2005, 06:14
The people who posted these things are game enthusiasts. Jack Thompson is fighting against the game industry. So, of course they have no reason to make stuff up :rolleyes:
Well, I am currently about to start a thread where I email Jack Thompson, and keep everyone informed of the happenings.

The reality program Jack Thompson Goes Wild is copyright Teh_pantless_hero.
Zexaland
19-10-2005, 06:54
Well, I am currently about to start a thread where I email Jack Thompson, and keep everyone informed of the happenings.

The reality program Jack Thompson Goes Wild is copyright Teh_pantless_hero.

I'd tune in to it.:)
Teh_pantless_hero
19-10-2005, 07:23
I'd tune in to it.:)
And I just realized, I need a working Jack Thompson email address.
Sakkra
19-10-2005, 07:24
This man is a senile loon with an over-inflated sense of self-importance. The only thing is, you can't ignore him because there are other senile loons out there in power who listen to him.

There's a WikiPedia entry on him (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29). I couldn't read through it in its entirety due to falling on the floor in convulsive laughing fits. I'm sincerely amazed that a raving town loony can carry so much clout in this country. I won't call for his head, but i will cite that a group he has stated he works with have decided to distance themself from him (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=12259). Further discrediting of him may yield positive results.
Pennterra
19-10-2005, 07:26
Wikipedia's article on Thompson. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29) (Edit: Agh, beaten to it) It mentions the incident mentioned by the OP. I'm aware that it has the 'neutrality' tag; however, if you look, you'll find that no one has raised any objections to the factuality of the content, only the tone of it. What bugs me about that is that, presumably, everything there is fact, noting 18 references. The facts happen to make Thompson look bad, so claims are made that it's been falsified. American politics, everyone.

In addition, the OP posted a link to Penny Arcade, the website of the two people donating $10,000 to charity according to Thompson's e-mail promise (which, apparently, used to be on Thompson's website (http://stopkill.com/index.html); I'm looking at it now, and it doesn't say a whole lot of anything- you think he'd have pages upon pages of studies showing the harmful effects of games, based on his claims). Why would two people who have started their own charity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child%27s_Play_%28charity%29) lie about donating money, especially when that would make the very cause they support look very, very bad?

Oh, right, sorry. It's all a big anti-Thompson gamer conspiracy. Riiiight...
Gauthier
19-10-2005, 09:00
All this because Pong sodomized him.
LazyHippies
19-10-2005, 09:41
Wikipedia's article on Thompson. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_%28attorney%29) (Edit: Agh, beaten to it) It mentions the incident mentioned by the OP. I'm aware that it has the 'neutrality' tag; however, if you look, you'll find that no one has raised any objections to the factuality of the content, only the tone of it. What bugs me about that is that, presumably, everything there is fact, noting 18 references. The facts happen to make Thompson look bad, so claims are made that it's been falsified. American politics, everyone.

In addition, the OP posted a link to Penny Arcade, the website of the two people donating $10,000 to charity according to Thompson's e-mail promise (which, apparently, used to be on Thompson's website (http://stopkill.com/index.html); I'm looking at it now, and it doesn't say a whole lot of anything- you think he'd have pages upon pages of studies showing the harmful effects of games, based on his claims). Why would two people who have started their own charity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child%27s_Play_%28charity%29) lie about donating money, especially when that would make the very cause they support look very, very bad?

Oh, right, sorry. It's all a big anti-Thompson gamer conspiracy. Riiiight...

Wikipedia is the least reliable of all sources. Wikipedia is written by people with absolutely no credentials who write whatever they want without any editorial review. The only thing that passes for editorial review on wikipedia is what other people who also have no credentials say about the topic and the arguments that ensue. In this case of this article even that most rudimentary and nearly useless form of review shows that the article's neutrality is in question. Besides, none of the links on the wikipedia article point to anything regarding these latest allegations. So, I still have yet to see any reputable articles on the topic. So far what we have is, two personal blogs and one gaming site making some claims and some folks repeating them on wikipedia (assuming its not the same guys who wrote the blogs). It doesnt become true just because more people repeat what they read on some blogs. Until I see something from a credible source I will assume this is fiction as should anyone else who values hearing something from a credible source rather than simply accepting whatever people post on blogs as undeniable fact.
Zexaland
19-10-2005, 12:40
All this because Pong sodomized him.

Ctrl-Alt-Del (http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-08-08)rocks!:D :D :D
Teh_pantless_hero
19-10-2005, 13:36
Wikipedia is the least reliable of all sources. Wikipedia is written by people with absolutely no credentials who write whatever they want without any editorial review. The only thing that passes for editorial review on wikipedia is what other people who also have no credentials say about the topic and the arguments that ensue. In this case of this article even that most rudimentary and nearly useless form of review shows that the article's neutrality is in question. Besides, none of the links on the wikipedia article point to anything regarding these latest allegations. So, I still have yet to see any reputable articles on the topic. So far what we have is, two personal blogs and one gaming site making some claims and some folks repeating them on wikipedia (assuming its not the same guys who wrote the blogs). It doesnt become true just because more people repeat what they read on some blogs. Until I see something from a credible source I will assume this is fiction as should anyone else who values hearing something from a credible source rather than simply accepting whatever people post on blogs as undeniable fact.

I was going to link to some of the more damning NewsMax articles from Jack Thompson, but guess what? They have all been removed from the archive while the rest sit there happy and more than probably edited to hell. The title of one of the scurged ones is "IS Reno's Parkinson medication affecting her jdugment on Elian?"

You can always go to Thompson's homepage.

http://www.stopkill.com/


These people will not stop. They mentally molest minors for money, which is the root of all sorts of evil.
I'm sorry, what?
That statement is mentally molesting me.

The best gem that proves the point is Thompson calling upcoming Rockstar game Bully a "Columbine simulator," which I beleive was a school shooting, not a beat-em-up.

The American Psychological Association issued its blockbuster findings in August 2005 proving that violent video games lead to violence by teens.
Lie. Latest findings promote "No strong link."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/24/tech/gamecore/main676446.shtml
Kids took guns to school for 200 years in this country without turning them on one another.
Does anyone else laugh when imagining children carrying black-powder muskets to school slung over their backs?

Time to employ the Wayyy-back machine (whicvh sadly only has updates in 2004).
http://web.archive.org/web/20040924054218/http://stopkill.com/
Jack Thompson predicted, in an interview by Matt Lauer on NBC's Today show three weeks before the Beltway Snipers were apprehended, that one of the snipers "might very well be a video gamer as young as 15 trained on a game switched to sniper-mode or God-mode."
What the hell is sniper-mode?

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883
There is no reason at all for even a video game website that hates Thompson to make up that entire letter and proposal.
The Charr
19-10-2005, 14:01
Interestingly enough, of all the people in the world, Thompson is the only person I've ever heard describe violence and sex in video games as 'highly arousing'. I'm sure there's something to that...
Zexaland
19-10-2005, 14:07
I was going to link to some of the more damning NewsMax articles from Jack Thompson, but guess what? They have all been removed from the archive while the rest sit there happy and more than probably edited to hell. The title of one of the scurged ones is "IS Reno's Parkinson medication affecting her jdugment on Elian?"

You can always go to Thompson's homepage.

http://www.stopkill.com/


I'm sorry, what?
That statement is mentally molesting me.

The best gem that proves the point is Thompson calling upcoming Rockstar game Bully a "Columbine simulator," which I beleive was a school shooting, not a beat-em-up.


Lie. Latest findings promote "No strong link."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/24/tech/gamecore/main676446.shtml

Does anyone else laugh when imagining children carrying black-powder muskets to school slung over their backs?

Time to employ the Wayyy-back machine (whicvh sadly only has updates in 2004).
http://web.archive.org/web/20040924054218/http://stopkill.com/

What the hell is sniper-mode?

http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883
There is no reason at all for even a video game website that hates Thompson to make up that entire letter and proposal.

Ouch! Thompson is OWNED!!!