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Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?
It's a pleasure to hear them talk, as a whole, as long as the accent isn't too thick. Anything they say is instantly slightly more interesting to listen to, just because of the accent. As a country and as a people, though, I don't think England is necessarily better than anyone else. Every country has things to be ashamed of.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

Irish women are much better in the sack than English women.

England looks like more of Wales to me.

They're not.

No.

/thread

1) Because the English are actually a race of emotionless extraterrestrial robots.

2) No, but they're close.

1) Because the English are actually a race of emotionless extraterrestrial robots.


No, those are the Swiss.

1) Because the English are actually a race of emotionless extraterrestrial robots.

2) No, but they're close.
:eek: I knew it! all those stories of Cybermen weren't just make-believe.

Why are the English so great?

We are the Chosen Ones.

Is England the best country ever?

Yes. Look at how much dictatorial arse we've kicked down the years, then how much of the world we've conquered at one point or another. now granted, we had some help with all of that, but the "British Empire" was ruled by English people, and all the members of Britain we're brought in by England (and if anyone wants to claim it's an equal partnership, why are there independence movements?)

No, those are the Swiss.
No, the Swiss are genetically altered Catholic super soldiers.

No, those are the Swiss.
:(
*sob*
what?


edit:
No, the Swiss are genetically altered Catholic super soldiers.
...is there some sort of conspiracy I missed? :D

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

Attitude

No not the best ever but close.

Regards,

JMayo

but the "British Empire" was ruled by English people
Yea, look at all those English monarchs over the course of the Empire.

What do you mean there aren't any?

Yea, look at all those English monarchs over the course of the Empire.

What do you mean there aren't any?

Did someone not have a point to make so he hid behind semantics I already acknowledged? Yes, you did.:rolleyes:

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak? -- Henry Higgins

Did someone not have a point to make so he hid behind semantics I already acknowledged? Yes, you did.:rolleyes:
It's a perfectly valid observation, you said that all the people who ruled the British Empire were English.

None of the Monarchs were; they were all brought in from abroad at various times. The Duke of Wellington was Irish etc, etc, etc.

It's a perfectly valid observation, you said that all the people who ruled the British Empire were English.

None of the Monarchs were; they were all brought in from abroad at various times. The Duke of Wellington was Irish etc, etc, etc.

They weren't absolute monarchs, though. But yes, you're probably right, I've misrepresented the balance of power there.

Still, England is the best country ever.

Why are the English so great?
i think its the sheer unlikliness of their greatness that makes them so great. there they are, in the backwater of europe, painting themselves blue, when WHAM they decide to take over the whole world. sure it took a millennium and a half to get that far, but by god they did it!. amazing

Is England the best country ever?
probably not EVER. that would go to china. but china has sucked for the past 200 years. so england, well ok, lets say "the united kingdom of <insert all that stuff here>" is pretty much the current leader.

probably not EVER. that would go to china. but china has sucked for the past 200 years. so england, well ok, lets say "the united kingdom of <insert all that stuff here>" is pretty much the current leader.

The thing with China is, they gave up on it in the 15th century. Poised to run the world, and then they just decided to go home, eat rice and fuck. They did a lot first, but they never really did a lot with it (at least, from a Eurocentric viewpoint)

How do you judge how good a country is, exactly?

How do you judge how good a country is, exactly?

By how similar it's name is to the word England

England has chavs,and therefore is hells outpost on earth.
Nuff said

England has chavs,and therefore is hells outpost on earth.
Nuff said

Ireland has knackers. Northern Ireland has spides. Scotland has neds.

Your point being?

The thing with China is, they gave up on it in the 15th century. Poised to run the world, and then they just decided to go home, eat rice and fuck. They did a lot first, but they never really did a lot with it (at least, from a Eurocentric viewpoint)
cant quibble with that.

however their first 3500 years were so good that i still think they win. after all, all of the things that china developed by the 15th century were developed by china. few of the things developed in the west up to now were developed by the english. they use it all well but most of the good stuff is "imported".

except for fine bone china which was developed by the englishman josiah spode. (i suppose there is much more but i have a great fondness for fine bone china)

Ireland has knackers. Northern Ireland has spides. Scotland has neds.

Your point being?
English chav population > Ireland and Scotland population

English chav population > Ireland and Scotland population

Possibly, but when expressed as a ratio, I would guess that the difference is as near as makes no odds.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

We gave the world everything.

America - Given (although you didn't appreciate it!)
Australia - Given
Industrial Revolution - Given (and you lot stole it)
Gravity - Given (albiet by Newton)
First and Only Supersonic Airliner - Given
Time - Given (cos you all run off GMT really)
English Language - Given
Depth Charges - British Invention
Electric Motor - British Invention
Jet Engines - British Invention
Rubber Bands - British Invention
Shrapnel - British Invention
Toilet Paper - British Invention

You see, non of you foriegners appreciate what we have done for you. That's what makes us so great!

oh, and a foot note: the World Wide Web is credited to Tim Berners-Lee, and guess what? He is BRITISH! So your using a british invention now!

[stands up salutes, and wonders off to the pub]

...but the "British Empire" was ruled by Dutch and German people...

Fixed for accuracy. :p

:eek: I knew it! all those stories of Cybermen weren't just make-believe.

No, they weren't. Here, you see an Englishman (left) taking a stroll in Blackpool with his buddy from Switzerland.

http://www.drwhoexhibitions.co.uk/images/WORLDOFDRWHO/wodw-3.jpg

Fixed for accuracy. :p

:eek: I have been misquoted! To the modmobile!

Seriously, I was hoping I would end up arguing with the retards that infest this place. I wasn't planning on knowledgable people showing up.

Still, my point remains, England = best country ever. The leaders may have been foreign, but the rest of the people were english. (Good God, that nearly sounds socialist!:( )

(Good God, that nearly sounds socialist!:( )

Too bad you can't have an avatar here. I'd have to suggest this for you. :p

http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/i/ingsoc.gif

Too bad you can't have an avatar here. I'd have to suggest this for you. :p

http://fotw.vexillum.com/images/i/ingsoc.gif

ROTFLMAO!

I am honoured.

It's a perfectly valid observation, you said that all the people who ruled the British Empire were English.

None of the Monarchs were; they were all brought in from abroad at various times. The Duke of Wellington was Irish etc, etc, etc.

I think that if the original question had used BRITISH rather than ENGLISH then the question would have been more correct.

Remember that at the time all of Ireland was part of Britain so Wellington being Irish makes not a pennyworth of difference.

As to the Kings and Queens of this fair land, all trace their line of descent to true blue Englishmen - who were obviously a very fertile bunch:)

As to the Kings and Queens of this fair land, all trace their line of descent to true blue Englishmen - who were obviously a very fertile bunch:)


Displaying a pretty poor knowledge of your own history there...

Displaying a pretty poor knowledge of your own history there...

History?? Who needs that shit when your country is as great as ours?

We gave the world everything.

America - Given (although you didn't appreciate it!)
Australia - Given
Industrial Revolution - Given (and you lot stole it)
Gravity - Given (albiet by Newton)
First and Only Supersonic Airliner - Given
Time - Given (cos you all run off GMT really)
English Language - Given
Depth Charges - British Invention
Electric Motor - British Invention
Jet Engines - British Invention
Rubber Bands - British Invention
Shrapnel - British Invention
Toilet Paper - British Invention

You see, non of you foriegners appreciate what we have done for you. That's what makes us so great!

oh, and a foot note: the World Wide Web is credited to Tim Berners-Lee, and guess what? He is BRITISH! So your using a british invention now!

[stands up salutes, and wonders off to the pub]


You forgot the Hovercraft, pocket calculator, Telephone, LED watch, electric light, pneumatic tyre, Television, steam locomotive, vaccination, penicillin, Photography, submarine and of course the clockwork radio.

I'm sure there are more, but that is enough for now.

Why can't the English teach their children how to speak? -- Henry Higgins

A very good question. And more specifically, why can't they teach them how to spell? Why is it your average Englishman, American, Canadian, Australian, etc... is so much worse at spelling his own damn language than your average non-native English speaker - and has not the foggiest concept of grammar, to boot? (I have a few hypotheses on that, but I'm not going to hijack this silly little thread. ;) ).

(Oh, and btw, I'm allowed to be critical. I'm half-English. The joys of being of mixed breed. :D ).

As to the Kings and Queens of this fair land, all trace their line of descent to true blue Englishmen - who were obviously a very fertile bunch:)

The Norman Conquest was just something that happened to other people, obviously...

Displaying a pretty poor knowledge of your own history there...

But a good working knowledge of genealogy.

You forgot the Hovercraft, pocket calculator, Telephone, LED watch, electric light, pneumatic tyre, Television, steam locomotive, vaccination, penicillin, Photography, submarine and of course the clockwork radio.

I'm sure there are more, but that is enough for now.

Incidentally, you all omitted constitutional monarchy, and the first steam ship in the world.

RULE BRITTANIA!

VOTE NBIP!

RE-ESTABLISH THE EMPIRE!

Depends on what you believe is 'best country'.

You forgot the Hovercraft, pocket calculator, Telephone, LED watch, electric light, pneumatic tyre, Television, steam locomotive, vaccination, penicillin, Photography, submarine and of course the clockwork radio.

I'm sure there are more, but that is enough for now.

None of these really match up to domestication of wild animals, the invention of agriculture, written language, accountancy or the founding of the first cities, though do they? Score one for the people of the Tigris-Euphrates river basin.

Depends on what you believe is 'best country'.

Britain, duh!:D

None of these really match up to domestication of wild animals, the invention of agriculture, written language, accountancy or the founding of the first cities, though do they? Score one for the people of the Tigris-Euphrates river basin.

Democracy, philosophy, mathematics, civil rights, empire and drama. Score one for Western culture.

None of these really match up to domestication of wild animals, the invention of agriculture, written language, accountancy or the founding of the first cities, though do they? Score one for the people of the Tigris-Euphrates river basin.

Since when the fuck was that a country?

Democracy, philosophy, mathematics, civil rights, empire and drama. Score one for Western culture.

Since when the fuck was that a country?

Democracy, philosophy, mathematics, civil rights, empire and drama. Score one for Western culture.

Greek, Greek, Babylonian, uncertain as it is such vague term, Sumerian, Greek/Egyptian.

Looks like two and a half points to the Europeans, two and a half points to the non-Europeans.

Democracy, philosophy, mathematics, civil rights, empire and drama. Score one for Western culture.

Democracy: Greeks.
Philosophy: Greeks.
Mathematics: Once again, Greeks.
Civil Rights: Damn them Greeks.
Empire: Egyptians.
Drama: Greeks.

Greek, Greek, Babylonian, uncertain as it is such vague term, Sumerian, Greek/Egyptian.

Looks like two and a half points to the Europeans, two and a half points to the non-Europeans.

Since when the fuck were either of those countries?

Since when the fuck was that a country?


Circa 5000BC.

Mathematics: Once again, Greeks.


Arithmatic, yes. Proper mathematics has far stronger roots out India way, for their introduction of the zero. And yes, I know that "out India way" isn't a country, but I'm not proposing "out India way" is the best country.

Circa 5000BC.

You have some kind of source for "Tigris-Euphrates river basin" being the name of a country?

Right then, thanks for playing, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Most of the mathematics were developed in the Middle East, however, but the Greek did apply some of their own.

You have some kind of source for "Tigris-Euphrates river basin" being the name of a country?

Nope, that is why I used the term "the people of the Tigris-Euphrates river basin" - refering to a succession of states which bled into each other through time.

Right then, thanks for playing, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The name of the game I'm playing is 'topic drift': what game are you playing?



NOTE: lest I have missed some - I'm having to cut and paste the letters on the extreme left of my keyboard with CTRL-V here due to hardware failure.

The name of the game I'm playing is 'topic drift': what game are you playing?

"Flame Everyone On Shitty Pretexts"

Nope, that is why I used the term "the people of the Tigris-Euphrates river basin" - refering to succession of states which bled into each other through time.

Yay! I win!

English are great because We more or less invented the modern Age

England is Great cos beyound it city it has some great beauty

English are great because We more or less invented the modern Age

England is Great cos beyound it city it has some great beauty

Plus we have a world class education system; see the evidence for yourselves. :rolleyes:

Plus we have a world class education system; see the evidence for yourselves. :rolleyes:

But the ideal of education belongs to the Middle East.

But the ideal of education belongs to the Middle East.

Don't try perverting my insults with on topic points, please.

Don't try perverting my insults with on topic points, please.

Oh, we'll see. ;)

But the ideal of education belongs to the Middle East.
who, along with the chinese, we can thank for modern medicine as well


those who say 'britain is great because we invented this, that or the other' are being a tad narrow minded imo... apart from the generalities like "culture" or "philosophy" (which are a whole different issue), singular inventions always draw on previous discoveries and theories anyway, which may or may not have come from britian


English are great because We more or less invented the modern Age
ah yes the agricultural and industrial revolutions. also much thanks due to the Dutch...

...those who say 'britain is great because we invented this, that or the other' are being a tad narrow minded imo...

I'm not narrow minded, just like to point out that everything worth having is a british invention. Ergo, we're great!

Little Nipper Mousetrap - British
Crossword - British
Thermos - British
Viagra - British

How did civilisation work before the British got here? I mean, the Crossoword folks. THE CROSSWORD!:rolleyes:

I'm not narrow minded, just like to point out that everything worth having is a british invention. Ergo, we're great!

Little Nipper Mousetrap - British
Crossword - British
Thermos - British
Viagra - British

How did civilisation work before the British got here? I mean, the Crossoword folks. THE CROSSWORD!:rolleyes:
yeah but we didn't invent sudoku;) ;)

yeah but we didn't invent sudoku;) ;)

Not sure. I seem to remember similar puzzles when I was a child.

Not sure. I seem to remember similar puzzles when I was a child.

And are you still a child now?

And are you still a child now?

At heart - sometimes :)

In reality I'm the wrong side of 50.

Did find this by the way http://www.google.com/answers/threadview?id=508523

Why are the English so great?
Well, they decided to call their place "Great Britain", I guess that makes all English people "Great Britons" or something...

Is England the best country ever?
Yes, along with every other country. All countries are equally "good", although some are more successful than others.
Britain has at times been successful, but then, so have many other nations.

TV and penicillan were invented by Scots.

Yorkshire pudding and roast beef. The best stuff in the world.

TV and penicillan were invented by Scots.

Yeah, well, um..., the English own Scotland! :D And Ireland and wales come to that.:D

Oh, and Holography, a great English invnetion.

See, We are so great!

Yeah, well, um..., the English own Scotland! :D And Ireland and wales come to that.:D

No, The English and the Scottish came together to form Great Britain.

Oh, and Holography, a great English invnetion.

See, We are so great!

Yes, forgot that one.

Yeah, well, um..., the English own Scotland! :D And Ireland and wales come to that.:D


...exsqueeze me? :mad:


Of course you meant 'owned'... past tense.....

Thats alright then... because they pwned you :p

Well, they decided to call their place "Great Britain", I guess that makes all English people "Great Britons" or something...


Yes, along with every other country. All countries are equally "good", although some are more successful than others.
Britain has at times been successful, but then, so have many other nations.

Well aren't we politically correct. What on earth has Booga Booga land, or any other African country omitting Egypt, to attain the level of a "great" nation? We may attribute the potential AID's epidemic to African nations, my thanks, a succession of irrelevant charity concerts, and half a century of unabated civil conflicts.

But a good working knowledge of genealogy.

So William and Mary were English? And what about the Hanovers? Gonna tell me Queen Victoria didn't like her bratwurst?

So William and Mary were English? And what about the Hanovers? Gonna tell me Queen Victoria didn't like her bratwurst?

We haven't a truly English monarch since 1065, when Edward the Confessor reigned, so the argument is essentially moot.

painting themselves blue,

Not to be pedantic or anything, but that was the celts. The English are descendents of the anglo-saxons.

So William and Mary were English? And what about the Hanovers? Gonna tell me Queen Victoria didn't like her bratwurst?

Well William and Mary were both Stuarts and therefore had a valid claim to the throne.

As for Victoria, do you claim she was not British to the core?

Not to be pedantic or anything, but that was the celts. The English are descendents of the anglo-saxons.

You mean that everything we saw in Braveheart isn't true?!?!?!? :rolleyes: ;)

OK, England. Pretty cool, obviously. However, there are a few cons:

The royals are basically german.
The government sucks big time.
Chav culture.

You mean that everything we saw in Braveheart isn't true?!?!?!? :rolleyes: ;)

The blue-painted people in Braveheart were the scots. The English were the evil villains.

The blue-painted people in Braveheart were the scots. The English were the evil villains.

Excuse me, we were trying to civilize the savage northerner:p

Excuse me, we were trying to civilize the savage northerner:p

I'm just saying how the English were portrayed. If you look at the left of my post, you'll see that I am English myself.

The blue-painted people in Braveheart were the scots. The English were the evil villains.

Did English kings really defenestrate homosexuals in those days?

I'm just saying how the English were portrayed. If you look at the left of my post, you'll see that I am English myself.

Evidently the irony wasn't actually slapping you with a wet towel.

BTW, if anyone wants a mental picture of Sierra BTHP to think about and hate, just picture Longshanks as portrayed in the movie (I especially liked the part where he threw that guy out the window in mid-sentence).

The blue-painted people in Braveheart were the scots. The English were the evil villains.

Both were ironically enough, Irish Defence Force extras.... :p

Evidently the irony wasn't actually slapping you with a wet towel.

You were being ironic by making it sound like you were trying to defend yourself against a comment I didn't make? Yeah, great irony there....

NOTE: lest I have missed some - I'm having to cut and paste the letters on the extreme left of my keyboard with CTRL-V here due to hardware failure.

Dedication's what you need. To be a record breaker

:)

Did English kings really defenestrate homosexuals in those days?

Oh yeah, definately. It's the only reason why we have windows in England ;)

You mean that everything we saw in Braveheart isn't true?!?!?!? :rolleyes: ;)

Ah, but that's just the American (read "ex-english") Hollywood version. We really weren't that horrible. Just trying to show the Scots how great we are.

Oh, and while we are on hollywood... we are so great that we got the Enigma machine, not the Americans.

C'mon, we won two world wars. That's got to add to the greatness of my great nation! ;)

C'mon, we won two world wars once the US arrived to bail us out.


Fixed for accuracy. :p

Ah, but the Americans, as I pointed out, are only ex-english. Ergo, ex-great.;)

Fixed for accuracy. :p

Cluich, I don't know how you manage to live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. You probably have to have bottled air shipped in, don't you?

England may have won two world wars this is true. But it don't stop there, were the only country to have fought every other country on the planet at some point, we didn't always win but at least we had a go!

Come on England!

England may have won two world wars this is true. But it don't stop there, were the only country to have fought every other country on the planet at some point, we didn't always win but at least we had a go!

Come on England!

So, I guess as soon as they couldn't beat other nations at cricket, they decided to give up on the whole Empire thing...

So, I guess as soon as they couldn't beat other nations at cricket, they decided to give up on the whole Empire thing...

Although we are greater at everything in the world, we need to let others feel a little good, so we let them win.

Because we're conciencious towards others, we're great!

Oh also,
Periodic Table - English. We invented the elements of the universe, the building blocks of life. See how can you deny it?

So, I guess as soon as they couldn't beat other nations at cricket, they decided to give up on the whole Empire thing...

Ashes to ashes...we all fall down! :p

Cluich, I don't know how you manage to live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. You probably have to have bottled air shipped in, don't you?

Nah, the air's not that bad, as long as you're not standing directly in front of Menino when he speaks. ;)

Well aren't we politically correct. What on earth has Booga Booga land, or any other African country omitting Egypt, to attain the level of a "great" nation? We may attribute the potential AID's epidemic to African nations, my thanks, a succession of irrelevant charity concerts, and half a century of unabated civil conflicts.
That doesn't make one country better than another.
a) Mali, Zululand and about a dozen other great empires existed there before colonisation.
b) AIDS came from an African monkey I believe, but it might as well have come from a British Horse for that matter.
c) The Africans didn't ask for the charity concerts. In fact I believe Geldof is a Brit, is he not?
d) Those conflicts can be argued to be the direct result of European imperialism. That being said, I'm less than impressed with the African leadership over the past 50 years - not that that makes their countries less "good".

c) The Africans didn't ask for the charity concerts. In fact I believe Geldof is a Brit, is he not?


Irish.

Irish.
Zing!

Zing!
You did that on purpose didn't you!!:D :D :D
Touche!

So, I guess as soon as they couldn't beat other nations at cricket, they decided to give up on the whole Empire thing...

we just won the ashes... your thick you are :P

Oh, just before i forget,

Theory of Evolution - Darwin - English. See, we even invented LIFE!
DNA - Francis Crick - English , Invented more Life!

English are great. How can you not see the TRUTH! Foolish foreigners, bow at our great feet!

we just won the ashes... your thick you are :P

I bet that English players don't win half as often as players from other former British colonies (or current Commonwealth members).

The English? It's not that they're so great, it's just that they seem great when compared to the Belgians.

And no, England isn't really the best country ever. It's just that it's not nearly as awful as any number of other countries at the moment.

The English? It's not that they're so great, it's just that they seem great when compared to the Belgians.



Stinking, fat Belgian bastards! :D

That doesn't make one country better than another.
a) Mali, Zululand and about a dozen other great empires existed there before colonisation.
b) AIDS came from an African monkey I believe, but it might as well have come from a British Horse for that matter.
c) The Africans didn't ask for the charity concerts. In fact I believe Geldof is a Brit, is he not?
d) Those conflicts can be argued to be the direct result of European imperialism. That being said, I'm less than impressed with the African leadership over the past 50 years - not that that makes their countries less "good".

a). And yet what on earth have they contributed to the culture of the world in comparison to the exertions of Britain. Shakespeare, no comparison. Wordsworth, no comparable poet. Churchill, Wellington, Nelson, no recorded equivalents.

b). So to conclude, yes, we may apportion culpability for AIDs to Booga Booga land.

c). And yet they willingly accept and frivolously expend our aid, and thwen deplore our capitalist economies that facilitate their aid.

d). Because evidently the absence of a negligable number of eurasian colonisers engenders international conflicts?

And yet what on earth have they contributed to the culture of the world in comparison to the exertions of Britain. Shakespeare, no comparison. Wordsworth, no comparable poet. Churchill, Wellington, Nelson, no recorded equivalents.
This just screams ignorance. Go, get a history book and read up. Africa had the unfortunate problem that gunpowder wasn't introduced there - the rest, as they say, is history.

And yet they willingly accept and frivolously expend our aid, and thwen deplore our capitalist economies that facilitate their aid.
Give me an example. You seem not to be particularly informed about African politcs in recent years.

Because evidently the absence of a negligable number of eurasian colonisers engenders international conflicts?
Again, read up on the way modern African nations were formed, doomed to failure. Imagine the Soviets conquering Europe, exploiting it and then making France and Britain into one nation.
It's a recipe for conflict.

a). And yet what on earth have they contributed to the culture of the world in comparison to the exertions of Britain. Shakespeare, no comparison. Wordsworth, no comparable poet. Churchill, Wellington, Nelson, no recorded equivalents.

Yikes. Erm, I can't answer you on the literature front, but: Napoleon, Octavian, Alexander, Rommell, Charlemagne, Tokugawa, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun... want more?

b). So to conclude, yes, we may apportion culpability for AIDs to Booga Booga land.

So to conclude, nobody in Africa fucking decided "oh I know, we'll create a worldwide plague which will devastate us worse than anyone else." Grow up. Your ignorance of how to write "AIDS" is not encouraging; nor is your blatantly racist name "Booga Booga land".

c). And yet they willingly accept and frivolously expend our aid, and thwen deplore our capitalist economies that facilitate their aid.

Ignorant/corrupt/evil leaders do not make a population of millions unworthy of aid. They mean that the method of distributing it has to be thought about.

d). Because evidently the absence of a negligable number of eurasian colonisers engenders international conflicts?

*shrug* I think the analogy about Europe still stands, but I have a better one. What with the Troubles over Northern Ireland, imagine what it'd be like if a Soviet invasion had made Britain and Ireland one country! There'd be civil war, and the invaders would want it that way, because while they're fighting each other they're not fighting your administration.

Again, read up on the way modern African nations were formed, doomed to failure. Imagine the Soviets conquering Europe, exploiting it and then making France and Britain into one nation.
It's a recipe for conflict.

Yeah, because france and england have never shared a crown, or common culture. :rolleyes:

Yeah, because france and england have never shared a crown, or common culture. :rolleyes:

Aheh... aheheh... aheh. If you think the French and the British could live together in peace and harmony then you don't understand the French and the British. No offence. It'd be like joining the USA and Mexico. It'd be like joining China and Japan. It'd be like merging Israel into the surrounding Arab nations. It wouldn't be pretty.

Aheh... aheheh... aheh. If you think the French and the British could live together in peace and harmony then you don't understand the French and the British. No offence. It'd be like joining the USA and Mexico. It'd be like joining China and Japan. It'd be like merging Israel into the surrounding Arab nations. It wouldn't be pretty.
That's bullcrap and you know it. The idea that Britain and France still have some great kind of rivalry is non-existant except in the minds of right wing xenophobes such as yourself, and is exasperated by reactionary media who deal in little more than sensationalism with barely a passing glance to fact, truth or logic.

Aheh... aheheh... aheh. If you think the French and the British could live together in peace and harmony then you don't understand the French and the British. No offence. It'd be like joining the USA and Mexico. It'd be like joining China and Japan. It'd be like merging Israel into the surrounding Arab nations. It wouldn't be pretty.

Well, except for that Angevin period, you are probably right. Oh, and the proposed unification of territory in 1940 (but that was more due to the exigencies of war).

The point is, historically there is as much in common with france and england, as there is with wales or scotland. Moreover english culture shares a surprising amount of common heritage with france. It would be quite different from merging isreal with the arab nations, or china and japan.

Funnily enough, large parts of the US were once mexican. There was also talk of absorbing cuba at one point too.

That's bullcrap and you know it...
Go the EU then!!!!

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?
Because they had the British Empire.
No New Zealand is the best Country ever.

That's bullcrap and you know it. The idea that Britain and France still have some great kind of rivalry is non-existant except in the minds of right wing xenophobes such as yourself, and is exasperated by reactionary media who deal in little more than sensationalism with barely a passing glance to fact, truth or logic.

Talking as someone who is forced to travel through france quite often I can tell you that the rivalry is still ingrained and, if anything, growing. This is largely down to the gradual decline of French power around the world while the UK's continues to grow.

Yeah, because france and england have never shared a crown, or common culture. :rolleyes:

Ah, but England had a French king reigning at some point in history, the name escapes me, but Tony Robinson told me so! He was removed from the throne by the pope if my memory serves me. (probably didn't want the greatness of england diluted)

Oh, and Micheal Faraday- Englash, invented Electricity, See we invented the modren world (several times according to this thread)

Were so great. <Stands up, sings 'rule britannia', disappears off to the pub. Again>

Aheh... aheheh... aheh. If you think the French and the British could live together in peace and harmony then you don't understand the French and the British. No offence. It'd be like joining the USA and Mexico. It'd be like joining China and Japan. It'd be like merging Israel into the surrounding Arab nations. It wouldn't be pretty.
yeah because of people like you and all the other daily mail readers :rolleyes:

...while the UK's continues to grow.
such dreams of grandeur.... just accept the fact that britain sucks just as much as any other country, and maybe we can move on and work together more closely in the EU, finally

Why are the English so great?
Because they're English.

Is England the best country ever?
Yes, because the English live there.

Because they're English.


Yes, because the English live there.

that is so true

Talking as someone who is forced to travel through france quite often I can tell you that the rivalry is still ingrained and, if anything, growing. This is largely down to the gradual decline of French power around the world while the UK's continues to grow.

And nothing to do with the fact that a lot of English people act like complete arrogant arseholes when they are over there?

(And nothing to with the fact that Paris is mainly populated complete arrogant arseholes as well (in the the interest of objectivity ;)?)

And nothing to do with the fact that a lot of English people act like complete arrogant arseholes when they are over there?

I think you are referring to the germans :)

(And nothing to with the fact that Paris is mainly populated complete arrogant arseholes as well (in the the interest of objectivity ;)?)

Oh? I've always found Paris to be better than most in Northern France.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

The English are not great at all. Even Luxembourg is more great than England. The political system is a waste of ressources (monarchy, ewwww), they are confusing the hell out of other states by having 4 teams in FIFA. Shakespeare was English and his works are today used for torture of students worldwide. The Language is more difficult than Turkish and they have loads of crazy laws.

No!

Yikes. Erm, I can't answer you on the literature front, but: Napoleon, Octavian, Alexander, Rommell, Charlemagne, Tokugawa, Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun... want more?



So to conclude, nobody in Africa fucking decided "oh I know, we'll create a worldwide plague which will devastate us worse than anyone else." Grow up. Your ignorance of how to write "AIDS" is not encouraging; nor is your blatantly racist name "Booga Booga land".



Ignorant/corrupt/evil leaders do not make a population of millions unworthy of aid. They mean that the method of distributing it has to be thought about.



*shrug* I think the analogy about Europe still stands, but I have a better one. What with the Troubles over Northern Ireland, imagine what it'd be like if a Soviet invasion had made Britain and Ireland one country! There'd be civil war, and the invaders would want it that way, because while they're fighting each other they're not fighting your administration.

Oh do piss off, really, I implore you to do so. I utilised the precedent illustrated by British generals in the context of the issue, since they are more pertinent than any of the aforemention voiced by you.

I believe I failed to imply that Africa that Africa willingly profligated AIDS, it merely contrived to do so by virtue of the considerable incompetance and utter reliance upon the west that permeates the entire accused continent south of Egypt. I am, moroever, incapable of speaking for all, however I am justified in the belief that our aid merely furthers the incompetance of Africa, and serves to confirm the theory that imperialism is the optimal method of utilising Africa, and it glorifies those nations capable of doing so.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?
This is some serious business.

I think you are referring to the germans :)

Well maybe the English ones are more noticable for me. But I don't really recall many blatant Germans being in France when I was there.


Oh? I've always found Paris to be better than most in Northern France.

Well truth be told, I have never been to Paris. Just basing that on people I know who have. I try and avoid big cities when I can.

Though for the most part I have those in Northern France to be very nice and helpful. Though I have only really been to Brittany, and have only passed through other parts.

Well maybe the English ones are more noticable for me. But I don't really recall many blatant Germans being in France when I was there.

They are not very welcome and I think they know it.

Well truth be told, I have never been to Paris. Just basing that on people I know who have. I try and avoid big cities when I can.

There are three must visit capital cities in europe. London, Paric and Rome. There used to be four, but Bonn is not longer a capital city.

Though for the most part I have those in Northern France to be very nice and helpful. Though I have only really been to Brittany, and have only passed through other parts.

Its strange, but to sum up France I would say the north is nice -except for the people whereas the south is nice because of the people. The far south, in the foothills of the Pyrenees, is one of my favourite places - only beaten by the Lake Bled area of Slovenia.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?

Because they hate dentistry, and save lots of money by not going.

Why are the English so great?

Is England the best country ever?


because apparantely great has been redefined to- hooliganistic sporting tendencies while being generally a nuiance on the rest of the world, having no natural resources so helping themselves to neighbouring countires

2. you're having a laugh right?

because apparantely great has been redefined to- hooliganistic sporting tendencies while being generally a nuiance on the rest of the world, having no natural resources so helping themselves to neighbouring countires

2. you're having a laugh right?

Of course, all 67 million of us sport Burberry hats and adidas attire at the weekends, and yet on Monday morning, in Bananaman-esque fashion, resume our lives as normal. We also all drink Stella, eat ridiculously severe curry to confirm our masculinity, and cavort around the centre of towns lashed every evening. Indeed, and yet we, the British are prejudice and extoll stereotypes as the norm.

The English are not great at all. Even Luxembourg is more great than England. The political system is a waste of ressources (monarchy, ewwww), they are confusing the hell out of other states by having 4 teams in FIFA. Shakespeare was English and his works are today used for torture of students worldwide. The Language is more difficult than Turkish and they have loads of crazy laws.

No!


thats because someone stupid people confuse england with the united kingdom

englands the one that brings least to it but gains the most

Of course, all 67 million of us sport Burberry hats and adidas attire at the weekends, and yet on Monday morning, in Bananaman-esque fashion, resume our lives as normal. We also all drink Stella, eat ridiculously severe curry to confirm our masculinity, and cavort around the centre of towns lashed every evening. Indeed, and yet we, the British are prejudice and extoll stereotypes as the norm.


not 67 million leave the welsch, northern irish and us scots out we wont be tarred with the same brush as you lot

because apparantely great has been redefined to- hooliganistic sporting tendencies while being generally a nuiance on the rest of the world, having no natural resources so helping themselves to neighbouring countires

2. you're having a laugh right?


North sea oil and the 200-300 years supply of coal we dont mine cos its easier to import? oh, and peat.

North sea oil and the 200-300 years supply of coal we dont mine cos its easier to import? oh, and peat.


and wales gold supply dwindled as it is

thats because someone stupid people confuse england with the united kingdom

englands the one that brings least to it but gains the most

your not scottish/welsh/irish by any chance are you? because your last line was laughably wrong.

not 67 million leave the welsch, northern irish and us scots out we wont be tarred with the same brush as you lot

Excuse me my dear fellow! The old firm game, post match violence? Is that simply a quaint scottish custom?

England contrived to survey a quarter of the world as its domain, yes, England, since we fought for the most part,whilst Scotland has achieved what precisely?

Excuse me my dear fellow! The old firm game, post match violence? Is that simply a quaint scottish custom?

England contrived to survey a quarter of the world as its domain, yes, England, since we fought for the most part,whilst Scotland has achieved what precisely?

granted ill give you the old firm, but however which country is internationally reknowned in the footballing world for hooligan fans?

your not scottish/welsh/irish by any chance are you? because your last line was laughably wrong.


german actually, and its not

England contrived to survey a quarter of the world as its domain, yes, England, since we fought for the most part,whilst Scotland has achieved what precisely?

The steam engine and capitalism.

Put those two together and you have the industrial revolution.

granted ill give you the old firm, but however which country is internationally reknowned in the footballing world for hooligan fans?

Switzerland has recently taken the title.

granted ill give you the old firm, but however which country is internationally reknowned in the footballing world for hooligan fans?

Hmm, savagely pissed Scots at every world cup. Oh, no, sorry, my mistake, every world cup you actually qualify for:D

It is a stereotype though, and to be honest, English fans are tame and timid in comparison to the Boixos Nois of Barca, the Ultra Sur of Real Madrid, or either Roma or Lazio's hooligan elements. It is simply a stereotype propogated by those infernally convinced of the perfidy of the English.

german actually, and its not


How does england contribute the least? it takes more taxes (which are spent on way over budget scottish parliaments) subsidises universities in scotland.

England gives more, and gets less in return within the UK.

The steam engine and capitalism.

Put those two together and you have the industrial revolution.

Prove it. The philosophy may well have been of Scottish provenance, yet the theory was implemented by the English.

Personally, I fail to see any reason for Anglo-Scottish or Welsh antipathy, and sincerely hope we can resolve all grievances with the Irish. A united Britain would be formidable, more so in a united EU.

England gives more, and gets less in return within the UK.

How did all the wealth come to be centralised in England in the first place?

Hint: rent.

Prove it.

Prove what?

That Watt invented the steam engine?
That Smith wrote The Wealth Of Nations?
That the industrial revolution depended upon mechanised power and a new perspective on class and wealth?

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nscl.asp?ID=7363 there somwhere, cant be bothered to find the exact document, i have to be up early tomorrow, night all.