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Well titles says it all. Interesting article read on. Prom wasnt like this when I was younger.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/16/prom.canceled.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/16/prom.canceled.ap/index.html

Those Parents are being Idiots...

You can have a great Orgy...without renting a $20000 party-house...

You can do it at my house fro free :D

Well a few things with that:

- As I started reading, before I knew what the Principal's problem was, I thought to myself "Those kids have waaay to much money!"

- I'm against Teachers making Moral Judgements on their students.

- It kind of is the school's choice whether or not they host a prom, but they should have a very good explanation, given that it is something of a tradition.

The school should keep it cancelled and let the parents with the deep pocket books host it, that way they are responsible for any and all actions and not the school.

Well a few things with that:

- As I started reading, before I knew what the Principal's problem was, I thought to myself "Those kids have waaay to much money!"IMO the problem is not the Kids...

Its the Parents...

wow. I don't know what to think about all that. I got to go to prom for free because I helped with planning, I made my own prom dress, and I borrowed a friend's classic car to go in. $1000 for one night of fun?! I didn't even spend more than $100 on my wedding and most of that $100 was eaten up with the $60 license. I am now officially scared. I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old both daughters, I had been saving for thier college education, and things like that, looks like I need to start a prom fund.......

The school should keep it cancelled and let the parents with the deep pocket books host it, that way they are responsible for any and all actions and not the school.The school might still forbid any references to their name...

You cannot call it...or print invitations like this "you are invited to the Prom 2006 St-Very-Rich-Brats-School"

Hehe, I spent 30 bucks to get my hair coloured in an interesting combination of red and yellow...and another 40 on drinks for the afterparty.
I borrowed my dad's business suit, and we raced a friend's BMW through the night (before we'd had to drink).

I couldn't have been bothered to pay anymore. I didn't even go to get a photo taken. :D

Bit stupid, I think.

Kids will have sex. It's a fact.Why cancel the fun of everyone because of a loud group that is probably in the not majority.

At least all the geeky kids don't have to worry about finding a date.

Bally Heck what would nanny say , I will go and sort out Their Ball for them in proper way it should be set out Hire Hostess and let her do all of it

Its the Parents...
Yeah, that's always kind of implied.
Is it really that common in the States that parents buy their kids a car at some point?
Always seems to work like that in Hollywood...

Bit stupid, I think.

Kids will have sex. It's a fact.Why cancel the fun of everyone because of a loud group that is probably in the majority.

At least all the geeky kids don't have to worry about finding a date.This whole thing has nothing to do with sex...

This whole thing has nothing to do with sex...

Isn't the title of the article 'willing to sponsor a prom, but not an orgy'?

For me, orgy=sex.

or·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ôrj)
n. pl. or·gies
1. A revel involving unrestrained indulgence, especially sexual activity.
2. Uncontrolled or immoderate indulgence in an activity: an orgy of spending. See Synonyms at binge.
3. A secret rite in the cults of ancient Greek or Roman deities, typically involving frenzied singing, dancing, drinking, and sexual activity.
Well, there we have it.

Well a few things with that:

- As I started reading, before I knew what the Principal's problem was, I thought to myself "Those kids have waaay to much money!"

- I'm against Teachers making Moral Judgements on their students.

- It kind of is the school's choice whether or not they host a prom, but they should have a very good explanation, given that it is something of a tradition.


actually, it was a catholic school. they're supposed to make moral judgments.

Isn't the title of the article 'willing to sponsor a prom, but not an orgy'?

For me, orgy=sex.
did you read the Article?

High school Kids have loads of Sex -With all kinds of people- around the Weeks of the Prom (before ,after)...Some rich kids will even go to have sex with multiple (well equipped) partners on a Taxi in Aruba...some will even make it to CNN...

regardless of what the school thinks...
(disclaimer...my knoledge is mostly about US Hi-Schools)

But like I said...This is about something completely different...

Isn't the title of the article 'willing to sponsor a prom, but not an orgy'?

For me, orgy=sex.
anyone who has ever been to a prom knows Prom=sex. People get drunk and screw all night. Most people keep partying after the party is over, and some pople are dumb enough to show up drunk. The dance floor even looks like an old bacchanalian ritual. Masses of writhing bodies all smashed up against each other punded by the beat of deep subwoofers and huge speakers.

The dance floor even looks like an old bacchanalian ritual. Masses of writhing bodies all smashed up against each other punded by the beat of deep subwoofers and huge speakers.
Mmmmhh...
*snips back into reality*
Anyways, I'm against religious schools too, precisely for the reason that they teach kids some sort of morality. That's not their job, everyone needs to work that out for themselves.

Yeah, that's always kind of implied.
Is it really that common in the States that parents buy their kids a car at some point?
Always seems to work like that in Hollywood...

It's common in some places. For example, my high school had a lot of students from the wealthiest neighborhood of the city where I grew up. (I wasn't from that neighborhood; I was from a nearby middle-class neighborhood.) The rich kids clearly lived in a different world from the rest of us. Worse, many of them thought we all lived like they did, or that there was something wrong with us if we didn't. All through high school, I was asked questions like, "What kind of car are you getting for Christmas? What kind of car are you getting for your birthday? What kind of car are you getting for graduation?" These kids clearly didn't get it. I wasn't getting a car, period. I knew what I would be getting for graduation - the same thing my older sisters had gotten: luggage. (My dad's idea of a subtle hint. I had until the following August to be out of the house.)

I got my first car at the age of 22 - a beat-up, 19-year-old Mercury Comet. (With an 8-cylinder 402 engine - I could blow the doors off of any rich kid's BMW. :D) I paid $300 for it - it needed work, but it was a great deal. But none of my rich friends would have been caught dead in a $300 car. (Suckers!)

I've owned four vehicles in my life. One guy I knew had been through that many before he graduated - all of them expensive sports cars, all of them totalled in single-car accidents. His parents kept buying them, and he kept wrecking them.

So when I hear about rich kids being "deprived" of something - well, I just don't have much sympathy. A thousand bucks for prom? I had to save my money for college. (My father didn't pay for that either. Try explaining that to a financial aid advisor - they'll tell you that your parents are obligated to pay for your education, and kick you out of their office.)

:rolleyes:

:eek: and i thought it was bad enough kids at my school renting suites in the hilton :gundge:

I got my first car at the age of 22 - a beat-up, 19-year-old Mercury Comet. (With an 8-cylinder 402 engine - I could blow the doors off of any rich kid's BMW. :D) I paid $300 for it - it needed work, but it was a great deal. But none of my rich friends would have been caught dead in a $300 car. (Suckers!)
off topic sorta, but your first car sounds nicer than mine was, I had a 20 year old hatchback that I got for $70 and they threw in a parts car for $5 if I promised to take them both far far away.
I paid for it myself, and all the people at my highschool made fun of it, because it was like 6 different colors of rust/primer/paint-like substance and I had to climb in through the hatch because the doors were rusted shut and the hatch didn't latch so I had to hold it closed with a bungee cord, and I had to put a pez despenser head on top of the gearshift because the top of it broke off and was sharp. Oh yeah and did I mention that it didn't have air/heat/defrost? so when it was cold outside (below freezing) I had to drive with the hatch open and the windows down so I the windows wouldn't fog up (kinda sucked when it was snowing)

The car lasted me almost a year until the starter fell out at a stop light and the parts car didn't have a starter and to get a new one would have costed $200 and I couldn't justify investing that in the car........

anyway I don't want my kids to go through that so I made them a deal, whatever they save up for a car I will match, that means that if they get $2000 together then they are getting a $4000 car. I am spoiling them huh?

While these people have way too much money it was not the schools job to cancel prom because these kids parents were idiots about it.
It’s the schools job to make sure that it does not come TO the prom itself yes but it is not their call for the after party

If they hear information about underage drinking or other illegal activities … yes then its their job to report it to the proper authorities
I think it was a jackass move on the schools part to rune prom for everyone just because some have an after prom party

Yeah, that's always kind of implied.
Is it really that common in the States that parents buy their kids a car at some point?
Always seems to work like that in Hollywood...
The end of the article would seem to support your theory:
"We go to all the parks with our friends," Laine said just before hopping into his jet-black Infiniti and driving off to meet friends for an after-school snack.
Yep, bet he had to work hard all summer to save up to buy that old boiler. :rolleyes:

To me, that's being vastly irresponsible (the parents I mean). Dangerous to boot. How getting an infiniti for your 17yr old son teaching him anything about the value of money? As well as: is that really the sort of car a 17yr-old should be driving? Great way to ensure he doesn't live much past 20.

One thing I do think is a good idea was the parents renting the house (not the cost, the renting). There's always going to be an after-prom party, so why not organise it? That way, the parents can control who comes and goes and hopefully prevent anything too major from happening.

wow. I don't know what to think about all that. I got to go to prom for free because I helped with planning, I made my own prom dress, and I borrowed a friend's classic car to go in. $1000 for one night of fun?! I didn't even spend more than $100 on my wedding and most of that $100 was eaten up with the $60 license. I am now officially scared. I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old both daughters, I had been saving for thier college education, and things like that, looks like I need to start a prom fund.......
i highly recommend that you dont move to lon gisland in that case.

And here i was thinking that the £28 i spent on hiring a kilt for the Prefect's Dance (closest thing we had to a prom and it had nothing to with the school who activiely went out there way not to know anythign about it) was expensive...

As for Cars IIRC only 10 or so people out of my sixth year had thier own and only 2 of those were new (one was a clio and the other a VW passat) and that was at one of the msot afluent schools in Scotland....

for the equivalent of prom here i am spending 54£ and that is everything... transport is my feet, date is free :D, drink nad afterparty meh dont think there is one this year... :( dont need one to have fun though, still got the date...

Well a few things with that:

- As I started reading, before I knew what the Principal's problem was, I thought to myself "Those kids have waaay to much money!"

- I'm against Teachers making Moral Judgements on their students.

- It kind of is the school's choice whether or not they host a prom, but they should have a very good explanation, given that it is something of a tradition.
-1 Agreed
-2 Usually agreed, but it is a reliosly sponsered, private school, and really has the right to do that if they wish.
-3 Agreed

-1 Agreed
-2 Usually agreed, but it is a reliosly sponsered, private school, and really has the right to do that if they wish.
-3 Agreed
On 2 yeah … though I still think it was a jackass thing to do its not the entire student bodies fault that some of them decided to do an OUT of school event

Yeah, that's always kind of implied.
Is it really that common in the States that parents buy their kids a car at some point?
Always seems to work like that in Hollywood...
I got a Lotus Elise for my 16th birthday. It was about an inch and a half long. Yay for hot wheels. I know very few children who got their own car. Most kids I know bought their own, or drive a family vehicle, often designated as theirs, but when they move out, it doesn't move with them. It stays. So I guess that is sort of the same as getting one.

I got a Lotus Elise for my 16th birthday. It was about an inch and a half long. Yay for hot wheels. I know very few children who got their own car. Most kids I know bought their own, or drive a family vehicle, often designated as theirs, but when they move out, it doesn't move with them. It stays. So I guess that is sort of the same as getting one.
Yeah that’s how mine worked … got to use the blazer for a while … then I worked and got my own truck

My Prom was on a boat. And my Abi Ball was in a Yacht club...

Yeah that’s how mine worked … got to use the blazer for a while … then I worked and got my own truck
I got to drive our beater van for about a week (only because niether of my parents could stand it). Then it died. I have been carless since, except for the rare occasions where my dad didn't need a car. I moved out two years ago. And haven't had a car since. Working on getting one though. Saving. I found a jeep for $500, in almost perfect shape(enigne, he paint is thrashed)It (I love my grandpa). So hopefully I will be buying that (I need four wheel drive where I work in the summers, it is not an option, it is a way of life, otherwise I would go a lot cheeper).

How do these kids spend this much on a date??? On prom??? The most I ever spent on a girl in a single shot was around $300, and that was for an engagment ring. I can't spend that amount on a car. Heck, I'm not even paying the amount in rent, food, and utilities for the entire semester as these kids are on a night of sex.

I got to drive our beater van for about a week (only because niether of my parents could stand it). Then it died. I have been carless since, except for the rare occasions where my dad didn't need a car. I moved out two years ago. And haven't had a car since. Working on getting one though. Saving. I found a jeep for $500, in almost perfect shape(enigne, he paint is thrashed)It (I love my grandpa). So hopefully I will be buying that (I need four wheel drive where I work in the summers, it is not an option, it is a way of life, otherwise I would go a lot cheeper).
Yeah I live on a farm … in Minnesota … four-wheel drive is a MUST if I want to have a semi normal life (such as go to school (not just college but needed it for highschool as well) not to mention hold jobs or just about anything else)

My Prom was on a boat. And my Abi Ball was in a Yacht club...
What a coincidence, the building that my prom was in caught fire during the prom. (At least, that is what I understand. I never attended, so I only have the scattered reports of survivors, becausse I was to busy hiding all the empty cans of kerosene I suddenly seemed to have).

Yeah I live on a farm … in Minnesota … four-wheel drive is a MUST if I want to have a semi normal life (such as go to school (not just college but needed it for highschool as well) not to mention hold jobs or just about anything else)
I live in a little town called Cedar City, in Utah. But I work/live summers on the Tushar ridge about 50 miles north of here, where we consider anything wide enough for a car a damn good road. Regardless of the fridge sized boulders, or foot deep ruts. I love my job. I get payed to camp/live, and play on a mountain. (I've been a backpacking guide, climbing/repelling instructor, and taught kids boffer swords).

What a coincidence, the building that my prom was in caught fire during the prom. (At least, that is what I understand. I never attended, so I only have the scattered reports of survivors, becausse I was to busy hiding all the empty cans of kerosene I suddenly seemed to have).I've actually been in a place that caught fire while people were dancing in it. Nederlands Congress Centrum in The Hague after an MUN conference. At first I thought the smoke machines had run out of the original fuel and now used something else, but then we got herded out. No one got hurt.
Turns out, some dumbass lost their wallet and lit a newspaper to find it on the wooden floor :rolleyes:

What a coincidence, the building that my prom was in caught fire during the prom. (At least, that is what I understand. I never attended, so I only have the scattered reports of survivors, becausse I was to busy hiding all the empty cans of kerosene I suddenly seemed to have).
Kerosene, eh?

Kerosene, eh?
Yeah, crazy isn't? One minute I'm just sitting around, minding my own business, and then suddenly its 50 minutes later, I'm out in the middle of the woods, and someone has stolen my matches and left me with all of these empty cases of kerosene.
Now I must go out and find the real arsonist!

I bought a suit that could be worn in to an interview or something for my leavers ball instead of renting a tux - was glad I did. People paid like £56 for one for one night, I paid £90 and will be useful after uni. But the actual event cost £25, which was a rip off - the food weren't great, although you got a lot of wine.

I got a Lotus Elise for my 16th birthday...
:eek: :eek: :eek:

...It was about an inch and a half long. Yay for hot wheels.
Phew...

But maybe I just need to say that since I got a job, and since I earn pretty good money (usually nights and weekends), I managed to get finance for a car, and I got myself a first generation WRX.
But my parents aren't contributing...

it is rather the flaunting of affluence, assuming exaggerated expenses, a pursuit of vanity for vanity's sake -- in a word, financial decadence
I agree. They should have given their money to the poor. All that alcohol will just make them sick.

wow. I don't know what to think about all that. I got to go to prom for free because I helped with planning, I made my own prom dress, and I borrowed a friend's classic car to go in. $1000 for one night of fun?! I didn't even spend more than $100 on my wedding and most of that $100 was eaten up with the $60 license. I am now officially scared. I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old both daughters, I had been saving for thier college education, and things like that, looks like I need to start a prom fund.......

Or.... you could teach your children your frugal values, and could help them make THEIR prom dresses, and help them to avoid after-prom parties that could end up with them being pressured to make decisions, or make impaired decisions, that could have far-reaching conseqences.

...being pressured to make decisions, or make impaired decisions, that could have far-reaching conseqences.
Hey, as long as there's enough condoms around (and I think schools should have a big bowl next to the buffet full of them), at least the physical consequences should be minimal.

Yeah, that's always kind of implied.
Is it really that common in the States that parents buy their kids a car at some point?
Always seems to work like that in Hollywood...

LOL, not my parents, that's for sure -- not that we wanted for food, clothes, fun stuff and vacations, but big ticket items were our responsibility to earn for ourselves.

And pointing out that other parents did it was met with the classic, "We're not other parents."

Or.... you could teach your children your frugal values, and could help them make THEIR prom dresses, and help them to avoid after-prom parties that could end up with them being pressured to make decisions, or make impaired decisions, that could have far-reaching conseqences.
I was mostly kidding. I had to buy everything when I was growing up, if I wanted a toy, I bought it, if I wanted a birthday party, I had to pay for it, I had my first job at 6 years old, I worked 80 hours a week while I went to highschool.
My kids already have chores (for which they don't get paid) and work extra for thier allowance. (at 2 and 4 mind you) I am saving money for thier future, but I will not pay for things like prom. I am offering matching funds on thier first car, and I will pay thier college tuition but any extras (off campus apartment, food ect.) is thier responsibility. My parents were just evil, I don't want to go to that extreme but I do want to teach my kids that if you want something, you should work for it.:)

I don't feel sorry for a bunch of spoiled brats.

I bought a tux shirt for my prom (actually, at my school it was technically the Senior Ball, not the prom, but same thing), and rented the rest (I probably should have just bought the whole thing, as I now need to buy a tux). I didn't rent the tie or cumberbund, though. Those I borrowed from my grandfather.

My ladyfriend and I did not rent a limo or anything silly like that. Her parents drove us. Very uncool, but inexpensive.

Afterwards we did not go to some party and get drunk and have sex. We went to her house and cuddled.

As for getting a car for one's sixteenth birthday... that's a good one... ha ha. I got some CD's, and copies of the keys to the family car. And it remained the family car, too, as in it was basically communal property.

I did not get a car upon graduation from high school, either. I got a new computer. That was it.

My first car will probably be either some shitty 20 year old piece of junk that I'll buy with a couple paychecks, or my parents will get a new car and give me the old one.

So, as you can see, I really don't have much sympathy for these kids or their rich-bitch parents. They can afford to put on the prom without the school's sponsorship.

I went to that school, graduated in 2001. My brother is there now as a freshman and I can tell you some things.

First off, during the prom at mine some kids went up to the wedding and caused some problems and got into a fight or something.

Secondly, the problem are the rich, prissy assholes who go there that are doing all of this and not the rest of them. I definitely am not in that class.

Thirdly, it's pretty messed up that they can't have a prom and I can agree with the principle but I don't think everyone should have to suffer because of a few assholes.

-1 Agreed
-2 Usually agreed, but it is a reliosly sponsered, private school, and really has the right to do that if they wish.
-3 Agreed

As far as #2. Yes they are privately funded by tuition only, no state funding at all. They can do as they please however they please. When I went they allowed protestants in. Now you have to be baptized because enrollments were that far up that they had to limit it. And rightfully so, they can do what they want.

wow. I don't know what to think about all that. I got to go to prom for free because I helped with planning, I made my own prom dress, and I borrowed a friend's classic car to go in. $1000 for one night of fun?! I didn't even spend more than $100 on my wedding and most of that $100 was eaten up with the $60 license. I am now officially scared. I have a 2 year old and a 4 year old both daughters, I had been saving for thier college education, and things like that, looks like I need to start a prom fund.......
No you don't. Just put your foot down. Who's the parent and who's the child, and why spend a fortune of money you worked for on something as frivilous and innane as a damned prom party, for God's sake? :headbang:

I didn't go to my prom. As I recall, I spent the night tripping out with my friends, none of whom went to my school. As it turned out, it was all for the best - there were undercover cops also in attendence - and I found out, later on, from some of my fellow students, in the aftermath, that the big plan had apparently been to blame any drugs or alcohol found about the place on yours truly.

Oh well, I had a good time watching the Moon sing songs for me, anyway.

Stupid proms.

Hell I know I didn't spend near $1,000 on prom. I split the limo 3-ways (3 guys w/ 3 dates), my tux wasn't expensive $150 maybe, and the bus to Six Flags the next day was cheap too. I prob spent under $600 for my prom and let's just say that was a lot of money for me and my parents to spend. $10k for a down payment on a house means that these kids will never respect anything in their entire lives. Rich people from Long Island. See I grew up in Elmont, on the border of Queens, no where near rich, just above shit. These people grow up in places that I wouldn't even be allowed because I'm not white enough or I'm not rich enough. And they ruined it for my brother who is a freshman now. Assholes!

Hell I know I didn't spend near $1,000 on prom. I split the limo 3-ways (3 guys w/ 3 dates), my tux wasn't expensive $150 maybe, and the bus to Six Flags the next day was cheap too. I prob spent under $600 for my prom and let's just say that was a lot of money for me and my parents to spend. $10k for a down payment on a house means that these kids will never respect anything in their entire lives. Rich people from Long Island. See I grew up in Elmont, on the border of Queens, no where near rich, just above shit. These people grow up in places that I wouldn't even be allowed because I'm not white enough or I'm not rich enough. And they ruined it for my brother who is a freshman now. Assholes!
Well, screw it. Drop 250 micrograms of LSD, pack a thermos full of coffee and licquer, and go for an all-night stroll in a corn field instead. With friends, of course. And a horizontal mambo partner.

It'll make for a more happenin' evening. Plus you can spend all that cash on something more fulfilling, later on.

Hell I know I didn't spend near $1,000 on prom. I split the limo 3-ways (3 guys w/ 3 dates), my tux wasn't expensive $150 maybe, and the bus to Six Flags the next day was cheap too. I prob spent under $600 for my prom and let's just say that was a lot of money for me and my parents to spend. $10k for a down payment on a house means that these kids will never respect anything in their entire lives. Rich people from Long Island. See I grew up in Elmont, on the border of Queens, no where near rich, just above shit. These people grow up in places that I wouldn't even be allowed because I'm not white enough or I'm not rich enough. And they ruined it for my brother who is a freshman now. Assholes!
6K is still a whole lot. I spent around 1k, and that was having to rent a stupid tux on short notice. Since then the most I have ever spent on a date is around 60 dollars, and that was for my girlfriend of almost two years at the time. Symphony and a fancy restuarant. Not counting that maybe 20-30, tops. (It helps that I own my own tux these days. It helps alot. I own two, and have made money back on both of them. One tails, one no tails, purchased for different music groups I'm in.)

6K is still a whole lot. I spent around 1k, and that was having to rent a stupid tux on short notice. Since then the most I have ever spent on a date is around 60 dollars, and that was for my girlfriend of almost two years at the time. Symphony and a fancy restuarant. Not counting that maybe 20-30, tops. (It helps that I own my own tux these days. It helps alot. I own two, and have made money back on both of them. One tails, one no tails, purchased for different music groups I'm in.)

6k? 600 dude.

I was mostly kidding. I had to buy everything when I was growing up, if I wanted a toy, I bought it, if I wanted a birthday party, I had to pay for it, I had my first job at 6 years old, I worked 80 hours a week while I went to highschool.
I don't think people should have to work while being educated. 80 hours also sounds implausible. At least where I live, 40 hours a week is considered full-time work. If you spent 35 hours a week in high school and 80 hours working, that would only leave 53 hours for everything else. How much sleep did you get? It could not have been more than 5 hours per night.

Typical right-wing bullshit. Don't act like your in a family, don't help your kin; it's too "communist". Society has really gone to hell when parents no longer provide for their children.

I was mostly kidding. I had to buy everything when I was growing up, if I wanted a toy, I bought it, if I wanted a birthday party, I had to pay for it, I had my first job at 6 years old, I worked 80 hours a week while I went to highschool.

Okay I am calling it.

BULLSHIT

I don't think people should have to work while being educated. 80 hours also sounds implausible. At least where I live, 40 hours a week is considered full-time work. If you spent 35 hours a week in high school and 80 hours working, that would only leave 53 hours for everything else. How much sleep did you get? It could not have been more than 5 hours per night.

Typical right-wing bullshit. Don't act like your in a family, don't help your kin; it's too "communist". Society has really gone to hell when parents no longer provide for their children.
Well, if s/he had teleportation powers, sleeping pills, 1.5 hours homework a week night, with 2.5 on a weekend night, and used those food pills the Jetsons had (so s/he spent less than half an hour eating each week) then s/he could haev had 8 hours for waste elimination, hygeine and sleeping each day.
On the other hand, if s/he didn't understand sarcasm in the least bit, then the s/he might have taken their life story seriously, gotten offended, and whined about right-wingers.

I probably spent about 150 - 200 dollars on Prom. But that included the ticket to the prom itself and the school sposored after prom party. The thing that cost me the most was probably the ticket to the prom, it was $95!! Then the rest was the ticket to the after prom, and my dress, shoes, hair, makeup, etc.

Well, screw it. Drop 250 micrograms of LSD, pack a thermos full of coffee and licquer, and go for an all-night stroll in a corn field instead. With friends, of course. And a horizontal mambo partner.

It'll make for a more happenin' evening. Plus you can spend all that cash on something more fulfilling, later on.


Thats what my girlfriend and I did, my friend gave us each a hit of Acid, then we split a quarter ounce; Better than the prom from what I heard, with way more colors...

Thats what my girlfriend and I did, my friend gave us each a hit of Acid, then we split a quarter ounce; Better than the prom from what I heard, with way more colors...

MMm enjoys not having a hole in his brain.

I don't have a hole in my brain, but my liver hates me...

I go to a Jewish high school, and we don't have a prom - never have. Main reason is that boys and girls aren't even supposed to touch each other. Secondary reason is that the school probably couldn't afford it.

I go to a Jewish high school, and we don't have a prom - never have. Main reason is that boys and girls aren't even supposed to touch each other. Secondary reason is that the school probably couldn't afford it.

LOL

Good, now they skip the lame ass dance and go straight to the fuckin' party. I was at my prom for about fifteen minutes, and during ten of those I was outside burning one with some buddies. Without a doubt a night to remember forever.

Hail Satan, adversary of abstinence!

Well titles says it all. Interesting article read on. Prom wasnt like this when I was younger.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/16/prom.canceled.ap/index.html

Where having a ridiculous amount of money will get ya!

I don't think people should have to work while being educated. 80 hours also sounds implausible. At least where I live, 40 hours a week is considered full-time work. If you spent 35 hours a week in high school and 80 hours working, that would only leave 53 hours for everything else. How much sleep did you get? It could not have been more than 5 hours per night.

Typical right-wing bullshit. Don't act like your in a family, don't help your kin; it's too "communist". Society has really gone to hell when parents no longer provide for their children.
most of the time I didn't show up for highschool at all, I would find out when there was a test or a big assignment and show up then. Attendence was only 10% of my grade as long as I did my work and passed my tests I could still make a 90% and sometimes I did extra credit. I had a deal with the school to excuse most of my absences. I didn't sleep much at all because I was doing meth, pretty much I stayed up for 3 or 4 days and then would take a day off and sleep for 15 hours. It was not healthy at all. I didn't do much else than work and school work. I had to work though, I told the principal that I had a choice pay the bills or go to english lit. He agreed that I should probably pay my bills and so he made accomodations for me.

as far as the first job when I was 6, basically my Grandpa owned an auction house, he told me one week that I could run a snack bar, he bought me sodas and snacks and gave me $20 to make change with, at the end of the night he said that I could keep whatever I made but needed to be back the next thursday with everything I needed to run the snack bar. I bought the stuff and kept out enough to make change and ran it by myself from 6 until I was 15 and could get a real job. It was a great learning experience, although I probably won't throw my kids in the deep end like that.;)

Okay I am calling it.

BULLSHIT
nope all true. see previous post

Maybe the school should sponsor an orgy.

It'd be cheaper. No expensive tuxes or dresses. No limos. They just have to spring for some cots. Maybe they can even use the mats from wrestling. Best part is: The kids would be too tired to do anything else afterward. :D

Everybody wins! :D

"Because that's what you DO at a party: You get too high. You drink too much. You stay too fuckin' long! That's why they call it a PARTY!!!!" -Sam Kinison.

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nope all true. see previous post

I don't believe 80 hours a week while in HS. Sorry but I just don't believe it. And that little thing between 6 and 15 is as much of a job as shoveling snow or mowing the lawn.

So I maintain my bullshit clause.

I don't believe 80 hours a week while in HS. Sorry but I just don't believe it. And that little thing between 6 and 15 is as much of a job as shoveling snow or mowing the lawn.

So I maintain my bullshit clause.
I don't care if you believe it or not, it is true.

As far as my job running a snack bar, it was way more than shoveling snow or mowing the lawn. I had to deal with inventory, I had a bank account, I had to get my food handling license when I was 10, I had to make sure how much to pay myself so that I still had enough to stock the snack bar, I had to figure out what sold and what didn't so that I didn't waste my money, and I had to keep books for my tax returns. I doubt that anyone who 'mows lawns' has to worry about any of that.

but like I said, I don't care if you believe it. I do not lie, I did have a hard life and I don't need any validation from anyone, knowing that I worked hard and lived through it is quite enough for me.

I don't care if you believe it or not, it is true.

As far as my job running a snack bar, it was way more than shoveling snow or mowing the lawn. I had to deal with inventory, I had a bank account, I had to get my food handling license when I was 10, I had to make sure how much to pay myself so that I still had enough to stock the snack bar, I had to figure out what sold and what didn't so that I didn't waste my money, and I had to keep books for my tax returns. I doubt that anyone who 'mows lawns' has to worry about any of that.

but like I said, I don't care if you believe it. I do not lie, I did have a hard life and I don't need any validation from anyone, knowing that I worked hard and lived through it is quite enough for me.

No problem.

most of the time I didn't show up for highschool at all, I would find out when there was a test or a big assignment and show up then. Attendence was only 10% of my grade as long as I did my work and passed my tests I could still make a 90% and sometimes I did extra credit. I had a deal with the school to excuse most of my absences. I didn't sleep much at all because I was doing meth, pretty much I stayed up for 3 or 4 days and then would take a day off and sleep for 15 hours. It was not healthy at all. I didn't do much else than work and school work. I had to work though, I told the principal that I had a choice pay the bills or go to english lit. He agreed that I should probably pay my bills and so he made accomodations for me.
Oh my god. Why should anyone who lives in a developed country live like this? Surely you don't advocate such a lifestyle?

Oh my god. Why should anyone who lives in a developed country live like this? Surely you don't advocate such a lifestyle?
I don't at all advocate that lifestyle. In hindsight I wouldn't have had to work at all if I would have followed my parents rules and not gotten kicked out, and after the fact I wouldn't have had to work so much if I hadn't been doing so many drugs.

I do want my kids to understand that they aren't "entitled" to anything, in fact I don't just "give" them money, they have to work for it, but as long as they are in school they can count on me for all basics (food, clothes, shelter, medical care, ect.) I couldn't see kicking my kids out at 16 for any reason at all but, I can't see things from my parent's point of veiw either so that may be why I still don't understand.