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Letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi
October 11, 2005

ODNI News Release No. 2-05

Today the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a letter between two senior al Qa'ida leaders, Ayman al-Zawahiri and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, that was obtained during counterterrorism operations in Iraq. This lengthy document provides a comprehensive view of al Qa'ida's strategy in Iraq and globally.

The letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi is dated July 9, 2005. The contents were released only after assurances that no ongoing intelligence or military operations would be affected by making this document public.

The document has not been edited in any way and is released in its entirety in both the Arabic and English translated forms. The United States Government has the highest confidence in the letter's authenticity.

http://www.dni.gov/release_letter_101105.html

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You...yes you... Trust The Bush Gov...Just Do it !!! (signed OceanDrive2 :D )

1. If the letter is real, you wouldn't believe it anyway, Ocean.
2. If the letter is fake, then it implies that the heads of al-Q are OK with the idea of killing Shias, which you said they would not be OK with.
3. If the letter is fake, it also implies that the heads of al-Q are also OK with slitting people's throats on TV - people who are mere civilians.

I can't believe they expect us to believe that the most dangerous terrorists on Earth write letters to each other on paper, and send them by courier, when you can download PGP for free. :rolleyes:

I've heard of a guy who 4096 or 8192 encrypted the contents of his HDD, just for the sake of it. There was even a webmail service based in Ireland (anyone got the link?) which used an encryption method so convoluted, the ISP itself cannot tell what was sent, from whom, to where.

That's the way to do it.

1. Even if the letter is real, Ocean would never believe it.
2. If the letter is fake, then it is true that al-Q is OK with killing Shias as a matter of policy, despite Ocean's claims to the contrary.
3. If the letter is fake, then it is true that al-Q is OK with slitting the throats of civilian women on TV as a matter of policy, despite Ocean's claims to the contrary.

Letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi

Oh, btw Ocean... I scooped this yesterday. But you knew that since you ignored the substance of my thread and posted random garbage.

Nice to see you still trying to push an agenda while pretending you actually found out somthing original. :rolleyes:

1. Even if the letter is real, Ocean would never believe it.
2. If the letter is fake, then it is true that al-Q is OK with killing Shias as a matter of policy, despite Ocean's claims to the contrary.
3. If the letter is fake, then it is true that al-Q is OK with slitting the throats of civilian women on TV as a matter of policy, despite Ocean's claims to the contrary.
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"I can evaluate the situation perfectly fine from out here. We're in the hallway and we're alive. Bravo One walked into that room, and now he's about 50 different kinds of fucked up. That's the situation."

haha...the name is not Bravo1...its Ocean2 :D :D :p :D

I can't believe they expect us to believe that the most dangerous terrorists on Earth write letters to each other on paper, and send them by courier, when you can download PGP for free. :rolleyes:

I've heard of a guy who 4096 or 8192 encrypted the contents of his HDD, just for the sake of it. There was even a webmail service based in Ireland (anyone got the link?) which used an encryption method so convoluted, the ISP itself cannot tell what was sent, from whom, to where.

That's the way to do it.

While most of them probably do communicate that way, I am doubtful that Zawahiri and Bin Laden do. Notice that they haven't even made a recent video - it's just my opinion, but I think they have a distrust of electronic gadgets.

When you consider that using a satellite phone tells people where you are, it's not a good idea to just hook up anywhere.

Besides, there's not a T-Mobile hot spot in their cave. Nice laptop, but no way to get on the Internet. And the cave isn't supposed to have cable or DSL for years.

Encryption is not all it's cracked up to be (LOL). One can garner information just from the fact that a message is sent (your location, for instance), and an increase in message traffic can also be informative.

Oh, btw Ocean... I scooped this yesterday. But you knew that since you ignored the substance of my thread and posted random garbage.

Nice to see you still trying to push an agenda while pretending you actually found out somthing original. :rolleyes:use the Quote function to prove I posted garbage...

Maybe that way you can make look bad...(in your dreams)
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use the Quote function to prove I posted garbage...

Maybe that way you can make look bad...
;)
Irrelevancy intended to attempt to discredit the document:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792402&postcount=5

Irrevelancy:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792423&postcount=10
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792546&postcount=23
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792584&postcount=26

Willful misreading/misquoting:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792785&postcount=35

Irrelevancy intended to attempt to discredit the document:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9792943&postcount=44

Irrelevancy intended to attempt to discount a serious thread:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9794187&postcount=71


So, you post seven times on a thread about the al Zawahiri letter, yet never argue anything substantiative... then make your own thread on the same topic, and still fail to say anything substantiative.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418845 seems to apply... :rolleyes:

Irrelevancy intended to attempt to discredit the document...This amuses me...

The Intelligence agencies need my help to discredit them?

They are doing that by themselves...They don't need any help with that...

..and they are doing that very well... :D

This amuses me...

The Intelligence agencies need my help to discredit them?

They are doing that by themselves...They don't need any help with that...

..and they are doing that very well... :D

Ocean you're forgetting something.

Let's say the document is fake. Let's say an intelligence agency faked it.

Now, they know that someone will deny it.

Someone has.

It means that they deny the letter AND its content.

Which, by default, shows the world what they want.

The letter says to lay off killing the Shias - so they must want the opposite.

The letter says not to be so brutal in the kiling - so they must want the opposite.

reading your links...Looks like...You still dodging that question...
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...but the document itself does not seem to be the fabrication of a US agency wanting us to look good...have you ever seen a fake letter from AlQuaeda?
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Ocean you're forgetting something.
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The letter says to lay off killing the Shias - so they must want the opposite.

The letter says not to be so brutal in the kiling - so they must want the opposite.I ll tell you what....

You read you post again...Think about it...read it again...sleep over it...

And come back Monday.

...and if you still see it the same way...we shall dicuss it

This amuses me...

The Intelligence agencies need my help to discredit them?

They are doing that by themselves...They don't need any help with that...

..and they are doing that very well... :D
This wasn't gotten by the intelligence agency. It was picked up by a bunch of grunts, so unless the CIA has enlisted a bunch of them or some other crackpot theory the intel agencies aren't involved.

Somehow i doubt anyone who posts here has seen a letter from Al Qaeda,real,fake or any other adjective.
Actually, in my original thread yesterday, I posted links to the PDF of both the Arabic and English versions. And yes, I read it.
I ll tell you what....

You read you post again...Think about it...read it again...sleep over it...

And come back Monday.

...and if you still see it the same way...we shall dicuss itAfter you have learned how to type a gramatically correct and cogent sentance? :rolleyes:

Either the Letter is True or the Denial is True. Take your pick. Both show al-Qeada in Iraq to be lawless thugs.

I don't see the pint of this thread.. the government has made a claim, and no one has provided any counter-evidence to that claim.. Al-Qaeda denies they wrote it, but they'd deny it anyway, given its embarassing content, real or not.

Since the topic has already been well-covered, this doesn't seem much more than a front to express distrust of the "Bush Government." The article says nothing new.

Actually, in my original thread yesterday, I posted links to the PDF of both the Arabic and English versions. The question is:

Have you ever seen a Fake AlQaeda letter?

After you have learned how to type a gramatically correct and cogent sentance? :rolleyes:
I love when stuff like this happens. Especially when it's followed by that dumbass eyeroll smiley.