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I've seen that a great number of threads are mainly threads for apologists.

Apologists for the excesses of Communism. Apologists for the excesses of Islam. Apologists for the excesses of Christianity. Apologists for the stupidity of the UN. Apologists for Bush. You name it, there's an apologist waiting in the wings.

So, I propose that we consolidate these threads into a single thread. This one.

That might get a little confusing.

The apologies sound so similar.

Here's an example.

Those people who did those bad things <massacre, genocide, etc> are not real <fill in the blank>.

I honestly think the authors of the European Common Agricultural Policy could not have forseen the implications for world grain prices.

Is that how you do it? :confused:

I honestly think the authors of the European Common Agricultural Policy could not have forseen the implications for world grain prices.

Is that how you do it? :confused:

Exactly.

I honestly think the average German citizen could not have foreseen the outcome of the recent elections, and therefore, should be held blameless for the current state of the German government.

The apologies sound so similar.

Here's an example.

Those people who did those bad things <massacre, genocide, etc> are not real <fill in the blank>.
I know. And most of them aren't true, either...

I've got an idea.

Whenever you hear an apology that takes the form:

"Those people who did <fill in horrible thing here> are not real <fill in name of group being defended here>."

we'll call it a Sierraism.

I've got an idea.

Whenever you hear an apology that takes the form:

"Those people who did <fill in horrible thing here> are not real <fill in name of group being defended here>."

we'll call it a Sierraism.
You display remarkable modesty in recommending the eponym, Mr. BTHP.

I've got an idea.

Whenever you hear an apology that takes the form:

"Those people who did <fill in horrible thing here> are not real <fill in name of group being defended here>."

we'll call it a Sierraism.

So... You want to be associated with neo-nazis, communists, terrorist sympathizers, and so on?

So... You want to be associated with neo-nazis, communists, terrorist sympathizers, and so on?

You'll notice that the list is much longer than you think.

Read the previous posts to get an idea.

Thus the "and so on".

And now you are just dodging the question. :D

I have no apologies to make..lol :D

Because we all know that this is a sound arguement -

Person/Group X, who was/said they were Y, did Z, therefore Z automatically follows Y.

And anyone who disagrees is an apologist. Gotcha.

I have no apologies to make..lol :D
LOL...Yeah. Right. :p

I have no apologies to make..lol :D

Here's an apology we might hear from Stephistan one day:

"When Chretien bombed the crap out of Serbia using Canadian Air Force planes and bombs without UN permission, he wasn't really a Canadian."

"When Chretien bombed the crap out of Serbia using Canadian Air Force planes and bombs without UN permission, he wasn't really a Canadian."
Of course he (and the bombers) wasn't (weren't) Canadian, he was American. And how do we know he was American at the time?
He did something naughty. Whenever a group acts like jerks, they automatically become American.
Nazism? American.
Christainity (which was born in the Mid East and Prospered greatest in Europe)? American.
Resource Consumption? American.
The Army of All Evil? American.

Of course he (and the bombers) wasn't (weren't) Canadian, he was American. And how do we know he was American at the time?
He did something naughty. Whenever a group acts like jerks, they automatically become American.
Nazism? American.
Christainity (which was born in the Mid East and Prospered greatest in Europe)? American.
Resource Consumption? American.
The Army of All Evil? American.
Czardas? American. (and so on)

Some of the bad stuff is French too. Don't forget conservativism and anyone who doesn't hate the US and its citizens personally. After all, god forbid something has to be proven American to be called American. Why mention the French? They're a group of people who apparently like to elect jerks.

the welsh?

the welsh?
Definitely American. Hell, the Welsh were Americans before there were Americans.
Sort of like they were the original non-American Americans.

Definitely American. Hell, the Welsh were Americans before there were Americans.

I guess that explains the drunkeness and womanizing and horse thievery in the Old West...

Here's an apology we might hear from Stephistan one day:

"When Chretien bombed the crap out of Serbia using Canadian Air Force planes and bombs without UN permission, he wasn't really a Canadian."

Chretien turned out to be an idiot. He was no Trudeau and he's also no Paul Martin, you'll get no argument from me about Chretien, the ONLY thing I liked about him was he had the balls to tell the Americans to go F*ck themselves when it came to Iraq. And he did love this country, but that was a long time ago.

Chretien turned out to be an idiot. He was no Trudeau and he's also no Paul Martin, you'll get no argument from me about Chretien, the ONLY thing I liked about him was he had the balls to tell the Americans to go F*ck themselves when it came to Iraq. And he did love this country, but that was a long time ago.

So you too can be an apologist!;)

So you too can be an apologist!;)

Nope, I have no apology to make.

I guess that explains the drunkeness and womanizing and horse thievery in the Old West...
and Jackass! damn that Johnny Knoxville!

Nope, I have no apology to make.
It's pointless to deny it now. We know the truth.... ;)

We know the truth.... ;)

The Truth Is Out There -- I Want To Believe! :D

The Truth Is Out There -- I Want To Believe! :D
See, that just proves my point. :rolleyes:

See, that just proves my point. :rolleyes:

Not a big X-Files fan I take it? heh :p

Not a big X-Files fan I take it? heh :p
You just like it because they filmed it in Canada.

The apologies sound so similar.

Here's an example.

Those people who did those bad things <massacre, genocide, etc> are not real <fill in the blank>.

Any poster called Safalra who commits a logical fallacy is not truly Safalra. That's me covered then.

This is a bitter, and ironic as so far as its starter is concerned, thread.

This is a bitter, and ironic as so far as its starter is concerned, thread.
Well, I like it bitter and ironic, Fass.

Well, I like it bitter and ironic, Fass.

See? Self-apologist! The worst kind. :p

Nope, I have no apology to make.
But you just wrote an apology! You made an apology for Chretien.

[note: different definitions of apology ;)]

See? Self-apologist! The worst kind. :p

Well, the last time Sweden did anything to apologize for, I think it was 1630 to 1634.

The apologies sound so similar.

Here's an example.

Those people who did those bad things <massacre, genocide, etc> are not real <fill in the blank>.
The worst type of apologism I can think of lately, at least, has been "well, we should not oppose the death penalty for homosexuals in Iran; it's part of their Muslim culture".

The absolute worst thing is that many of the apologists for this are my liberal brethren. In my opinion, our opposition to homophobia should know no national boundaries.

You just like it because they filmed it in Canada.

Does that mean that it's okay for Czardas not to like the X-Files because it isn't really American?

Cause that sounds kinda apologist to me! :D

Well, the last time Sweden did anything to apologize for, I think it was 1630 to 1634.

No, no, you forget that we inspired the German eugenics programme. Not to mention letting Hitler use our territory for troupe deployments. And then there's the sterilisation of the mentally disabled... Oh, we have tonnes of stuff that was evil and that people try to explain away.

The absolute worst thing is that many of the apologists for this are my liberal brethren. In my opinion, our opposition to homophobia should know no national boundaries.

Nor should our opposition to the death penalty regardless of excuse used for it.

No, no, you forget that we inspired the German eugenics programme. Not to mention letting Hitler use our territory for troupe deployments. And then there's the sterilisation of the mentally disabled... Oh, we have tonnes of stuff that was evil and that people try to explain away.
You bet you do, you gave the Nobel Peace prize to Yassar Arafat.

You bet you do, you gave the Nobel Peace prize to Yassar Arafat.

That was Norway - Norway hands out the peace prize. And he did deserve it that year - it was a very optimistic time. Perhaps you should review?