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i am pretty intoxicated.....but i am curious why everyone in the world hates us...i never bothered you ever!

the war in iraq...bullshit...i am against it,but i did see a video on a/e and it was disgusting....little kids wirh rigor all ready set in..i was crying like a bitch...and how did i do that...i would never ever harm a child...but it seems if they do it...ok...we do it by accident we are horrible satans spawn?

i truly wish we all could get along better,but i dont see that happening,people hate us cause we are guilty of being american,europe does not want to give up it's lucrative deals they made b4 the war,but it always comes back to the americans suck and are evil....i am not evil..and i hate being put in a pot if...well you elected bushhole(the terrorists do this) so you are equally responsible(forget their own leaders)

iwant to dance threw flowers and be in love and my kids are happy,but i just dont see it happening now with all the hatred.

they (neo muslims)hate us and are way of life...and i would help any one i ever see....race or religion is a non issue to me...but to them i am a infadel....scary shit attitude if you ask me...but i would still be accomadating to anyone...why don't they ever...ever accomadate my beliefs...?

i wish i could wave my magic wand and end all hatred...but it seems they dont want too....so where does that leave me...honest question here...what am i suppose to think as a good guy that would never think to hurt you?


i am am beyond baffled and a bit drunk..lol....i know..chop my head off for getting drunk...sorry.:headbang:

It's because you get drunk and do stupid things.

so is this the intellegent drunk or just another random lush?

People need something to blame for their misfortunes. Sadly, America became the target, for them its David vs. Goliath.

If you want to know exactly why the rest of the world has such a problem with the American world view, read what Secret aj man wrote in the "Favourite German Chancellor"-Thread.

That kind of thing used to be enough to declare war in the elder days.

If you want to know exactly why the rest of the world has such a problem with the American world view, read what Secret aj man wrote in the "Favourite German Chancellor"-Thread.

That kind of thing used to be enough to declare war in the elder days.
What did he say? The search function still isn't working.

What did he say? The search function still isn't working.
Yeah, it's a bitch. They better get that fixed soon.

Here's the link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=449406), but the thread is on the first page anyway.

That kind of thing used to be enough to declare war in the elder days.

Really now. I mean the "hitler did okay for you hypocrits" was well out of order, but I hardly think it constitutes a casus belli. Diplomatic outrage and mobilizing the troops perhaps, but not a full blown war. After all, its not like he shot anyone's nephew. ;)

If you want to know exactly why the rest of the world has such a problem with the American world view, read what Secret aj man wrote in the "Favourite German Chancellor"-Thread.

That kind of thing used to be enough to declare war in the elder days.
We should throw him into the rehab centre.

BTW, if he's drunk, how did he manage to write a post 16 lines long (both threads)?

BTW, if he's drunk, how did he manage to write a post 16 lines long?
Have you ever been to a teenage binge houseparty? :D

People can sometimes write remarkably coherently (especially when they send SMS on a mobile phone...), yet make no sense at all.

We should throw him into the rehab centre.

BTW, if he's drunk, how did he manage to write a post 16 lines long (both threads)?
Well, the post isn't exactly Shakespear.

Have you ever been to a teenage binge houseparty? :D

People can sometimes write remarkably coherently (especially when they send SMS on a mobile phone...), yet make no sense at all.
Did I tell you the mum dance then all them we see it is! Mother fucker?

Translates to:

Oh my God I'm so drunk! Please pick me up, I just hit on a transvestite...

-snip-
Here's an appropriate emoticon:

:-Ü

You know, the funny thing about these posts is :

THE WORLD DOESN'T HATE AMERICA!!!

They love to criticise it, as it is always in the lamplight, they don't particularly love it as it seems to love itself quite enough, and they may look down upon it occasionally as it is always nice to look at the big guy and think "Yeah, right, but my toys are nicer". But it doesn't hate the place nor the people.
You keep saying that we shouldn't take Bush as an example for the whole of America. Well, would you stop taking Usama for the whole world???

I really understand this guy, because the whole world thinks : Every German is a Nazi...

I really understand this guy, because the whole world thinks : Every German is a Nazi...

Yeah, and everybody in New Zealand is a sheep-shagger, and all Irish are poor, spud-eating, drunken poets.... it's what is called a stereotype. Few people actually believe that, but most people will make jokes about it.

Everybody hates America because they are the only world super power and they are led by a slightly evolved monkey, and i apologize that could hurt a monkeys feelings... it is because as the super power you stick your nose in everywhere and out of old debts and the fact that you are bloody huge you pull other countries like britain along with you, o and why i hate america at teh moment, 'FREEDOM FRIES' teh most BS piece of proaganda i have ever seen and yet it worked!

i am pretty intoxicated.....but i am curious why everyone in the world hates us...i never bothered you ever!

the war in iraq...bullshit...i am against it,but i did see a video on a/e and it was disgusting....little kids wirh rigor all ready set in..i was crying like a bitch...and how did i do that...i would never ever harm a child...but it seems if they do it...ok...we do it by accident we are horrible satans spawn?

i truly wish we all could get along better,but i dont see that happening,people hate us cause we are guilty of being american,europe does not want to give up it's lucrative deals they made b4 the war,but it always comes back to the americans suck and are evil....i am not evil..and i hate being put in a pot if...well you elected bushhole(the terrorists do this) so you are equally responsible(forget their own leaders)

iwant to dance threw flowers and be in love and my kids are happy,but i just dont see it happening now with all the hatred.

they (neo muslims)hate us and are way of life...and i would help any one i ever see....race or religion is a non issue to me...but to them i am a infadel....scary shit attitude if you ask me...but i would still be accomadating to anyone...why don't they ever...ever accomadate my beliefs...?

i wish i could wave my magic wand and end all hatred...but it seems they dont want too....so where does that leave me...honest question here...what am i suppose to think as a good guy that would never think to hurt you?


i am am beyond baffled and a bit drunk..lol....i know..chop my head off for getting drunk...sorry.:headbang:
First off, most of us europeans don't hate you. We hate many, many, many of the things your various governments have been doing and are doing around the world.
Some of us are especially pissed about the Iraq war, because not only did the US (principially) lie to us, wage a propaganda war against us and play us against eachother, you also somehow managed to make the issue so important for our elected leaders, that they (almost universally) went to war with you, against the wishes of 80-90% of their peoples. That's entirely unprecedented.

We know full well we aren't in the dangerzone, but why should we blindly & silently accept your global hegemony through US$ & wanton slaughter? I know this isn't what you mean to say, but sadly you are saying that as long as we aren't the target of your military, we should shut the fuck up.

Also, I assume you think freedom of speech is a good thing. Your administration runs the global economy, and your president is effectively president of Earth, not just America.
Neither your president or you Americans in general ever listen to what we say. Why should we not reel against your global oppression, violence & ignorance? People focus on you, because you're the ones who counts. Extremist religious groups means fuck-all in the big picture here. They carry about as much weight as a 3 year old with a water pistol. Just look at the death tolls in the conflicts you have with them. How many have you killed in captivity & how many have they? How many civillians have you killed & how many have they? How many soldiers have they killed & how many armed wankers have you killed? Look at the actual numbers. For the extremists this is a PR war. For the US it's a regular one about killing & plundering.

The Iraq war is only a tiny little entry on the long, long list of reasons for why most of us thinks we'd be better off if you guys left the planet. Not meaning you should exterminate yourselves, simply that if your superpower nation wasn't here, a lot of this shit wouldn't be happening.

And really, maybe that's the real reason your nation is so hard to stomack. You are a fucking superpower. We have everything in common with you, yet instead of behaving with a semblance of responsibility, you conduct politics of horror that would make the killerclowns from outer space pale with envy. Normally I'd make a more realistic comparison, but Americans have a habit of refusing to understand when others blame them for the atrocities the American governments commit in their name. Look below for a few of the things I'm referring to. And please understand that all of the below is still only a few of the reasons.

http://www.omnicenter.org/warpeacecollection/dictators.htm
http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa.html
http://www.isometry.com/usahate.html
http://www.vexen.co.uk/USA/hateamerica.html#Regimes

I have traveled a great deal and most people in the world do not hate us (although they do hate bush), it is just a small minority who truly hate us but those are the only ones our media shows because our government wants us to feel that everyone hates us so we will be more justifed in attacking them. The most discriminatory, close-minded people i have ever met are all americans. The media is extremely biased and olny tells us what we want to hear.

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Very well said.

First off, most of us europeans don't hate you. We hate many, many, many of the things your various governments have been doing and are doing around the world.
Some of us are especially pissed about the Iraq war, because not only did the US (principially) lie to us, wage a propaganda war against us and play us against eachother, you also somehow managed to make the issue so important for our elected leaders, that they (almost universally) went to war with you, against the wishes of 80-90% of their peoples. That's entirely unprecedented.

I have to agree with you, but you are forgetting that Bush's approval ratinga are at an all time low.
This means that the majority of Americans dont approve of the war either.
No world leader in his right mind would be willing to say that global terror isnt a major concern to any nation these days.
Take a look at the U.K.
Those buses didnt blow themselves up.
Im not defending Bush make-believe war against an ideal, but he isnt completely off-based.
He simply chooses to secure oil for future use, instead of truly fighting such terrorist bands.

We know full well we aren't in the dangerzone, but why should we blindly & silently accept your global hegemony through US$ & wanton slaughter? I know this isn't what you mean to say, but sadly you are saying that as long as we aren't the target of your military, we should shut the fuck up.

Ask London how they feel about being in the "dangerzone".

More to the point, anyone who implies "as long as you aint the target....", is a douchebag, and you should ignore them out of general principle.
The american military is the most powerful one on earth, and like any weapon, fallen into the hands of an asshole.....bad things happen.

Also, I assume you think freedom of speech is a good thing.

To quote Pratchett, "It is the thing, and the whole of the thing."


Your administration runs the global economy, and your president is effectively president of Earth, not just America.

Sweet Jesus, I hope not.

Neither your president or you Americans in general ever listen to what we say.

First off, our President doesnt listen to anyone that isnt running a major corporation. That applies to most of us American citizens as well.
Also, to say that American General Forum posters dont listen to "you",( "you", Im assuming to be U.Kers? Europeans?)
...is silly.




Why should we not reel against your global oppression, violence & ignorance?

Maybe its time you did?

Im not exscusing any morally wrong policies made by any American Adminstration, but amybe if other nations with the capability to do so, took a more active role in securing nations who cannot secure themselves, maybe you wouldnt be always screaming at us, when we dont do it exactly as you would like us to.

The Iraq war is only a tiny little entry on the long, long list of reasons for why most of us thinks we'd be better off if you guys left the planet. Not meaning you should exterminate yourselves, simply that if your superpower nation wasn't here, a lot of this shit wouldn't be happening.

Thats certainly true, but a better question might be, what kind iof shit would be happening?

Do you think North Korea would be mass producing nuclear weapons, if the U.S had not done so much negotiating, and simple bribery?

Iran?

If not for Americas direct involvement, Kuwait would still be in the hands of Saddam Hussein.

Who may have already targeted Isreal with a nuclear weapon, if the US had not made such efforts to keep such weapons out of the hands of rogue nations who may well use one?

And really, maybe that's the real reason your nation is so hard to stomack. You are a fucking superpower. We have everything in common with you, yet instead of behaving with a semblance of responsibility, you conduct politics of horror that would make the killerclowns from outer space pale with envy. Normally I'd make a more realistic comparison, but Americans have a habit of refusing to understand when others blame them for the atrocities the American governments commit in their name. Look below for a few of the things I'm referring to. And please understand that all of the below is still only a few of the reasons.

Again, especially with the current administration, please do not confuse our governments policies with that of its citizens.
Bush is making his own decisions, even against his own party, and there isnt anything we can do, unless we catch him directly breaking a law.
To imply that the general populace is as equally guilty as those in power, is absolutely wrong.

Keep in mind that is possible that Bush didnt even win either election legally, so, how can you expect us to share responsibility with that kind of rule-breaking?

He doesnt listen to us, you, or much of anyone.

Ask London how they feel about being in the "dangerzone".

You would be amazed at the results... most of them don't feel in any more danger than they did before....


Sweet Jesus, I hope not.

They are. Unfortunately...



If not for Americas direct involvement, Kuwait would still be in the hands of Saddam Hussein.

If it wasn't for America's direct and indirect involvement, he wouldn't have occupied it in the first place...

Well, the post isn't exactly Shakespear.
Shakespeare isnt Shakespeare

You would be amazed at the results... most of them don't feel in any more danger than they did before....

I find that hard to believe, actually.
While many people had simlar reactions in america after 9/11, most of us went about our lives as per usual.
While Im sure the same is true for the UK, I cant help but think that many are also wondering when it will happen again.



They are. Unfortunately...

Anyone who thinks that America, and its President are "the world's president", or actually in effect the leaders of the world, are resigning thier own patriotism, and soveriegnity.

Your country is strong, healthy, and older and wiser than ours.
Let no one speak for you.....but you.




If it wasn't for America's direct and indirect involvement, he wouldn't have occupied it in the first place...

If by that, you mean "we put him in power", then I suppose that answer is correct.
However, to my knowledge, nobody gave him the green light to be a douchebag.

But, a rose by any other name.......

http://www.isometry.com/usahate.htmlI found this link to be very good reading. Nicely direct and to the point in answering the original poster's question.

I find that hard to believe, actually.
While many people had simlar reactions in america after 9/11, most of us went about our lives as per usual.
While Im sure the same is true for the UK, I cant help but think that many are also wondering when it will happen again.


One of the differenced between 9/11 and the London bombings is that Londoners, as opposed to New Yorkers, are more or less used to bomb attacks. Those busses weren't the first to blow up, and I'll bet they won't be the last. In essence, it makes little difference WHO detonates the bomb, be that the IRA od Al-Quaeda. It is a sad event every time it happens, but it is something they arranged themselves with decades ago.
So did Germans, Irish, Spanish, French and Italians, by the way. They all have lived with terrorists and bombs for quite some time now.



Anyone who thinks that America, and its President are "the world's president", or actually in effect the leaders of the world, are resigning thier own patriotism, and soveriegnity.

Your country is strong, healthy, and older and wiser than ours.
Let no one speak for you.....but you.

It's not so much a question what we think, it's a question of reality. Economy is power on this planet, and US economy has penetrated everywhere except maybe Cuba and North Korea.



If by that, you mean "we put him in power", then I suppose that answer is correct.
However, to my knowledge, nobody gave him the green light to be a douchebag.

But, a rose by any other name.......

Well, you put him in power and you backed him when he was going against Iran, all those 8 years. When he was destitute after that war, he must have naturally assumed that the US would back him in an invasion of Kuwait.
It doesn't excuse a single one of his actions, but it does explain them in a way...

First off, most of us europeans don't hate you. We hate many, many, many of the things your various governments have been doing and are doing around the world.
Some of us are especially pissed about the Iraq war, because not only did the US (principially) lie to us, wage a propaganda war against us and play us against eachother, you also somehow managed to make the issue so important for our elected leaders, that they (almost universally) went to war with you, against the wishes of 80-90% of their peoples. That's entirely unprecedented.
I have to agree with you, but you are forgetting that Bush's approval ratinga are at an all time low.
This means that the majority of Americans dont approve of the war either.
No world leader in his right mind would be willing to say that global terror isnt a major concern to any nation these days.
Take a look at the U.K.
Those buses didnt blow themselves up.
Im not defending Bush make-believe war against an ideal, but he isnt completely off-based.
He simply chooses to secure oil for future use, instead of truly fighting such terrorist bands.
I'm not forgetting it. You, on the other hand, seem to think I hold you personally responsible, though I clearly stated that I don't. And I don't. I know that a large minority or small majority of Americans never wanted to be part of all the shit your various governments have done, and that the rest generally have no opinion because they don't know what's been going on.

Truely no world leader in his right mind would portray religious terror realisticly. To do so would be to outright contradict almost every major player in geopolitics, and thus would be massively harmful to their own nation.

However, no sane/honest person would claim that invading some random nation would lessen terrorist activity.
We know full well we aren't in the dangerzone, but why should we blindly & silently accept your global hegemony through US$ & wanton slaughter? I know this isn't what you mean to say, but sadly you are saying that as long as we aren't the target of your military, we should shut the fuck up.
Ask London how they feel about being in the "dangerzone".

More to the point, anyone who implies "as long as you aint the target....", is a douchebag, and you should ignore them out of general principle.
The american military is the most powerful one on earth, and like any weapon, fallen into the hands of an asshole.....bad things happen.
I was speaking in relation to the OP. By dangerzone I obviously meant we europeans aren't directly threatened by America.
Your administration runs the global economy, and your president is effectively president of Earth, not just America.

Sweet Jesus, I hope not.
Hope's got nothing to do with it. Do you think we voluntarily subsidise America? No. We do it because if your economy starts to tumble down, ours does to. As such, your president is the president of planet Earth. And unfortunately, as you seem to have observed as well, he doesn't listen to anyone but his own personal financial interests. If Jesus has anything to do with the current situation, kindly tell him I'll be ripping him limb from limb & sodomising his daddy with his remains in the afterlife.

Neither your president or you Americans in general ever listen to what we say.

First off, our President doesnt listen to anyone that isnt running a major corporation. That applies to most of us American citizens as well.
Also, to say that American General Forum posters dont listen to "you",( "you", Im assuming to be U.Kers? Europeans?)
...is silly.
I know a few posters on these forums do listen to other peoples opinions. They do, however, not amount to anything near Americans in general. And I'm painfully aware your leaders doesn't give a shit about your opinions either. It's exasperating, right? By "we" I meant the peoples of europe in general & our elected leaders.
Why should we not reel against your global oppression, violence & ignorance?
Maybe its time you did?

Im not exscusing any morally wrong policies made by any American Adminstration, but amybe if other nations with the capability to do so, took a more active role in securing nations who cannot secure themselves, maybe you wouldnt be always screaming at us, when we dont do it exactly as you would like us to.Remember Hans Blix? HEard any good French jokes recently? What about the "If you're not with us, you're against us"? or the new progressive europe vs. the old insane crapholes?

... As some of the American posters on these forums have noted, quite a few of us europeans are very vocal about a great number of things. The general response however, is "You're jealous" or "You are insane & hate everyone"... Who can argue with shit like that?

Taking an active role in protecting other nations from US economic & military invasions is another kettle of fish entirely. We don't have a lot of options. It's almost like Amnisty weilds more power in these matters than we do. Again, it's largely to do with how ignorant your public is kept about a great number of things, how much weight the US can throw around in the UN, and how completely dependent our nations are on your economy. The sad truth is that no european country can stand up to the US without commiting slow suicide. And since America largely practices group punishment against us, most european countries will try to stop eachother from going against American interests.

If you think any of us have any real influence on your governments policies, think again. The whole UK thing is mostly a stunt to stifle EU. Thank monkey boy from me for that...
The Iraq war is only a tiny little entry on the long, long list of reasons for why most of us thinks we'd be better off if you guys left the planet. Not meaning you should exterminate yourselves, simply that if your superpower nation wasn't here, a lot of this shit wouldn't be happening.
Thats certainly true, but a better question might be, what kind iof shit would be happening?

Do you think North Korea would be mass producing nuclear weapons, if the U.S had not done so much negotiating, and simple bribery?

Iran?

If not for Americas direct involvement, Kuwait would still be in the hands of Saddam Hussein.

Who may have already targeted Isreal with a nuclear weapon, if the US had not made such efforts to keep such weapons out of the hands of rogue nations who may well use one?
Just for the record, these are all situations created BY the US. They are hardly relevant examples, since you're the direct (though perhaps not singular) cause of the current situations.

That said, it's utterly futile to debate this, as it will never be anything but guesswork. I know I opened the door, but let's just close it, shall we? It's not terribly relevant for anything other than to illustrate what a lot of people can't help but wonder about.
And really, maybe that's the real reason your nation is so hard to stomack. You are a fucking superpower. We have everything in common with you, yet instead of behaving with a semblance of responsibility, you conduct politics of horror that would make the killerclowns from outer space pale with envy. Normally I'd make a more realistic comparison, but Americans have a habit of refusing to understand when others blame them for the atrocities the American governments commit in their name. Look below for a few of the things I'm referring to. And please understand that all of the below is still only a few of the reasons.
Again, especially with the current administration, please do not confuse our governments policies with that of its citizens.
Bush is making his own decisions, even against his own party, and there isnt anything we can do, unless we catch him directly breaking a law.
To imply that the general populace is as equally guilty as those in power, is absolutely wrong.

Keep in mind that is possible that Bush didnt even win either election legally, so, how can you expect us to share responsibility with that kind of rule-breaking?

He doesnt listen to us, you, or much of anyone.
The only thing I blame Americans at large for, is sticking your fingers in your ears & going "nananananah" whenever anyone criticises your government. You'd be one of the far too few execptions that prove the rule.

I largely blame your media for teaching you that's a proper response to criticism however, and I in no way hold your population responsible for your governments actions. While people living in dictatorships may be unable to rise up for practical reasons, you guys are unable because you're largely not told a thing about what's been going on.

It's hard to remain somewhat calm about these things, and I'll freely admit that my frustration may impact how I word my posts. And I do often joke about insane psycho Americans... But honestly, I don't mean it. It's just frustration. And it's the same for most other people in these parts. We don't actually hold you personally responsible for your government. We recognise that though you strictly speaking did elect them, you did it out of ignorance & misinformation. Very few of us doubt that the average American have nothing but the best intentions towards his or her fellow humans.

Also, keep in mind that I'm in no way trying to glorify the european countries. But fortunately we aren't superpowers & can't do whatever we damn well please. If we could, I'm not at all sure we'd be any better than America.