The (Un)ideal States
Zatarack
14-10-2005, 02:40
This state shall be known as living hell.
Spending priority: Law enforcment
Rights: Plato was right, rights lead to anarchy
Government Regulation of Breathing
no regulation of corporations, no protection of the worker
Government burns 2/3 of all crops not for government use
All builings, streets, cars, etc. must be grey
What am I missing?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-10-2005, 02:49
This state shall be known as living hell.
Spending priority: Law enforcment
How dare a government take the need to defend its citizens from each other seriously. Obviously all money should go into buying cookies and ponies for everyone.
Remember Boys and Girls: Law Enforcement!=Facism
Rights: Plato was right, rights lead to anarchy
Government Regulation of Breathing
no regulation of corporations, no protection of the worker
I see a little contradiction of the argument,
Can't be true, Can't be true,
Do you see the flaw too?
A government wouldn't be liturgious against the people and let corporations run rampant. The only exception being if the corporations were the government, but then that is merely government empowered exploitation, and would have non-government corporations ground into the dust to prevent competition.
Zatarack
14-10-2005, 02:52
How dare a government take the need to defend its citizens from each other seriously. Obviously all money should go into buying cookies and ponies for everyone.
Remember Boys and Girls: Law Enforcement!=Facism
I see a little contradiction of the argument,
Can't be true, Can't be true,
Do you see the flaw too?
A government wouldn't be liturgious against the people and let corporations run rampant. The only exception being if the corporations were the government, but then that is merely government empowered exploitation, and would have non-government corporations ground into the dust to prevent competition.
What if the government hates the people?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-10-2005, 02:57
What if the government hates the people?
If you just hated people then your chief expenditure would be the Department (or Ministry if you are a crazy foriegner) of Genocide.
Law Enforcement implies that they care about the people, as they are trying to keep them from getting raped by their fellows.
Further, Corporations are run and manned by people too. As such, a government that felt the need to exterminate its citizens would also exterminate corporations and any other group that might start gathering independent power. Also, if the government just wanted power, then they would nationalize industry so that they controled the means of production.
The South Islands
14-10-2005, 03:10
Pie is good. I like pie. Spend more money on pie.
Vegas-Rex
14-10-2005, 03:28
If you just hated people then your chief expenditure would be the Department (or Ministry if you are a crazy foriegner) of Genocide.
Law Enforcement implies that they care about the people, as they are trying to keep them from getting raped by their fellows.
Further, Corporations are run and manned by people too. As such, a government that felt the need to exterminate its citizens would also exterminate corporations and any other group that might start gathering independent power. Also, if the government just wanted power, then they would nationalize industry so that they controled the means of production.
They can hate people without wanting to kill them: life makes pain last longer.
The Law Enforcement is presumably there to enforce the breathing regulations, not to protect people.
As for the corporations, if the government can hate people without hating itself it can do the same to corporations. It doesn't have to hate everybody, just most people.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-10-2005, 03:33
They can hate people without wanting to kill them: life makes pain last longer.
The Law Enforcement is presumably there to enforce the breathing regulations, not to protect people.
Point. Still, wouldn't beaucracy be a better big expenditure then? After all, put enough men with access to government power, power point presentations, and business suits together in a room and you can cause a hell of a lot of misery.
As for the corporations, if the government can hate people without hating itself it can do the same to corporations. It doesn't have to hate everybody, just most people.
Yes, but Zatarack said that the government hates "the people" which I would assume means that all people not in the government. So if corporations are left to run free either: the people running the government also run the corporations (which makes the corporations an extension of the government) or the government doesn't hate the people, just a few of the people.