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So some poor bastard donated sperm to a lesbian couple with the agreed upon stipulation that he would have no contact with the rugrat they spawned. Now the lesbians have broken up and one of them is suing the sperm donor for child support. That don't sound right to me.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1481012.htm

I'm sure they signed a contract.

But, as we all know by now, you don't want to be breaking ground in contract law. Nice way to lose your shirt.

no it doesnt seem right. i guess it teaches a harsh lesson on not making informal arrangements when it comes to donating sperm. leave it to the professionals

children have a right to support from their parents. he signed a paper saying he was the father. the rights remain with the children not with any agreement by the parents.

that sucks so much, i feel sorry for the donor, he should not be forced to pay the lesbian mums should both have to, they split but where the parents so they should have to pay, nowt to do with the biological father.

I am actually surprised that it happened in Zweeden first and not here. But I did warn someone about exactly this thing six months or so ago.

This whole thing doesnt sound right.

The lesbian couple shouldnt even have HAD a baby in the first place. Gay's shouldnt be allowed to raise children. I know if I were to be raised by two gays I would
-Grow up teased at my school
-Grow up feeling different and left out

and more

That's ridiculous. But I have to agree that this sort of thing should be done with the aid of lawyers at the very least, to avoid this sort of bullshit, and the man should have known better than to trust people in a situation where they can suck money out of you. You really need ironclad contracts for this stuff, although even the most heavily armoured and robust of contracts can be overruled if the one wanting the money bitches enough about how hard things are.

Logically, the other mother should be the one paying child support, not the guy who generously provided the biomatter necessary for the conception of the child.

It's a shame for the guy, but it was a stupid thing to do. I know that over here, unofficial sperm donations (eg. cracking off into a turkey baster) have child support attached to them, unlike with the official donations. Though why somebody would want to help a couple of lesbians have kids is beyond me. I wouldn't want a child that's biologically mine to be raised and have their minds poinsoned by their sort.

This whole thing doesnt sound right.

The lesbian couple shouldnt even have HAD a baby in the first place. Gay's shouldnt be allowed to raise children. I know if I were to be raised by two gays I would
-Grow up teased at my school
-Grow up feeling different and left out

and more
What's the matter? Afraid to be reared by a homosexual?

In some parts of the world gayness isn't seen as weird or wrong. Sweden's not as backward as the US, so the kids of gays probably don't suffer much more teasing than kids of straight folks.

This whole thing doesnt sound right.

The lesbian couple shouldnt even have HAD a baby in the first place. Gay's shouldnt be allowed to raise children. I know if I were to be raised by two gays I would
-Grow up teased at my school
-Grow up feeling different and left out

and more

I personally know two children who live in Maryland and their parents are two lesbians.

Now, the lesbians are not legally married. And the two children are adopted - each lesbian adopted a child - it's legal for single parents to do so.

They have essentially been living together as a married couple for the past 14 years.

Their children seem fine to me. They are not teased at school, or left out.

No one seems to have a problem with it.

Pretty soon, with an attitude like that, you're going to be teased, and left out.

What's the matter? Afraid to be reared by a homosexual?

LOL

This whole thing doesnt sound right.

The lesbian couple shouldnt even have HAD a baby in the first place. Gay's shouldnt be allowed to raise children. I know if I were to be raised by two gays I would
-Grow up teased at my school
-Grow up feeling different and left out

and more
No. Just.... no!

Come on, people. We all know trolls have voracious appetites, but feeding them just makes them dependant on your handouts. Don't feed the trolls, or they'll forget how to hunt in the wild for themselves.

Come on, people. We all know trolls have voracious appetites, but feeding them just makes them dependant on your handouts. Don't feed the trolls, or they'll forget how to hunt in the wild for themselves.

A voice of reason. Anyway, what seems to have happened here is that didn't have a proper agreement and he signed paternity papers, so the ruling was expected. Shitty thing for the lesbian to do, nevertheless.

no it doesnt seem right. i guess it teaches a harsh lesson on not making informal arrangements when it comes to donating sperm. leave it to the professionals

children have a right to support from their parents. he signed a paper saying he was the father. the rights remain with the children not with any agreement by the parents.
It's the informality that seems to have bitten him in the ass. I looked into sperm donation a couple of years ago (from the other side--I had a vasectomy many years ago and getting it from me is far costlier than from a bank), and the one thing that stood out to me was the number of ways the bank has to protect the donors from just such a thing happening to them.

That'll teach him to go making contracts without a lawyer.

That'll teach him to go making contracts without a lawyer.

Yeah, well a contract won't immunize you from child support in any case. Doubly so since the child never gets the chance to sign it.

This whole thing doesnt sound right.

The lesbian couple shouldnt even have HAD a baby in the first place. Gay's shouldnt be allowed to raise children. I know if I were to be raised by two gays I would
-Grow up teased at my school
-Grow up feeling different and left out

and more


Two family friends were raised by lesbians. They're 16 and 14 now, I think. One was adopted, the other was from a sperm donor. They're better adjusted socially than I am, and I was raised by heterosexuals. They were never teased, always very popular, and are both making top marks in school. Perhaps you would be the only one doing the teasing?

It's the informality that seems to have bitten him in the ass. I looked into sperm donation a couple of years ago (from the other side--I had a vasectomy many years ago and getting it from me is far costlier than from a bank), and the one thing that stood out to me was the number of ways the bank has to protect the donors from just such a thing happening to them.
if they went after men who made donations to a sperm bank it would destroy the whole business. men might enjoy finding out years later that their semen had been put to good use by meeting their biological offspring. but if they risked being involved in a dozen or so child support suits they would never donate.

Yeah, well a contract won't immunize you from child support in any case.

All too true. I have a very big problem with child support regulations to begin with. Although I am sure no one will even come close to my opinion, so I will just not even go there. The religious right on this forum wants to crucify me already.

That's just ridiculous,sperm donors shouldn't have to pay child support,they have almost no part in the birth of the child.in fact all they do is to to the sperm bank,have a wank,and leave.
Part of the deal when donating sperm should be you get exempted from any connection with any child that may be born using your sperm.with any luck this case will bring about that law.

In some parts of the world gayness isn't seen as weird or wrong. Sweden's not as backward as the US, so the kids of gays probably don't suffer much more teasing than kids of straight folks.
Unless their kids go to schools that have a bunch of muslim immigrants, in which case they're screwed.