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A Protestant evangelical pressure group has warned that it will try to use the government's racial and religious hatred law to prosecute bookshops selling the Qur'an for inciting religious hatred.

Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second reading debate on the measure.

Its director, Stephen Green, said the organisation would consider taking out prosecutions against shops selling the Islamic holy book. He told the Guardian: "If the Qur'an is not hate speech, I don't know what is. We will report staff who sell it. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that unbelievers must be killed."
Firstly, WTF?
Secondly, not having read the Qur'an, I don't know whether there are any parts of it that could be targeted under the proposed racial and religious hatred law.
Thirdly, even if there are parts that perhaps could lead to justified protests about it, would the government be stupid enough to ban or restrict the sale of the Qur'an in public bookshops?

Actually, that group is protesting against the law. The threat against the Qur'an is intended to demonstrate the law's absurdity.

Even if the Qu'ran is a hateful book (which I highly doubt it is), I wouldn't want it banned because that is a violation of one's freedom of speech. I don't go around saying that we should ban Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries.

And at least the Qu'ran is well written...

:rolleyes: Well, now... this is just silly...

Please, people, read the first reply.

*must resist urge to post in religious thread*


edit: damn!!

How do you spell "idiots"?

*must resist urge to post in religious thread*


edit: damn!!
Well... it only took a few posts before we got to the spam. :p

Well... it only took a few posts before we got to the spam. :p
:eek: not spam... i've gotten in trouble for a religious-based thread of mine tonight, already, and i don't much fancy getting the mods involved again is why i'm not posting here (apparently)... and now i'm spamming too. know what? i think i'll just give posting here a break for tonight and come back when i'm more normal :p

I hope they succeed. Our government is spineless and does whatever the muslim groups tell them to do. So if the koran was banned then the muslim groups would withdraw their support for the laws and the government would to as they're told and repeal them.

:eek: not spam... i've gotten in trouble for a religious-based thread of mine tonight, already, and i don't much fancy getting the mods involved again is why i'm not posting here (apparently)... and now i'm spamming too. know what? i think i'll just give posting here a break for tonight and come back when i'm more normal :p
Normal sucks donkey balls. :D Why the hell would you want to be normal anyway? It's just so... conformist. And c'mon...surely it wasn't that bad.

i think i'll just give posting here a break for tonight and come back when i'm more normal :p

Put your nation on Vacation Mode then.:D

j/k

Normal sucks donkey balls.

I thought he just hung out in his office and gave Max and Original Cindy crap all day.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1589960,00.html#article_continue

Christian Voice, a fringe fundamentalist group which first came to public prominence this year when it campaigned against the BBC's broadcasting of Jerry Springer The Opera, was among the evangelical organisations taking part in a 1,000-strong demonstration against the bill outside parliament yesterday as the House of Lords held a second reading debate on the measure.

Its website proclaims its right to protect its own freedom of speech in attacking other religious groups: MPs "have no right to try to stifle our freedom to preach the gospel. It is not just Islam which is the problem. If a preacher is explaining the horrors of Hinduism ... a charge of stirring up religious hatred would be almost inevitable. Preaching against sin in general, or adultery or homosexuality in particular, may also land a preacher in court."

I don't know how much clearer it could be. They're saying they will try to get Islamic bookshops prosecuted if they (the Christians) can't preach hate against 'sin'.

They could just as easily use the contents of Leviticus to try to ban the Bible as hate literature if they are trying to get that law stricken down.

Edit: Grace is not only tactical, but also quicker with the Reply button.

Normal sucks donkey balls. :D Why the hell would you want to be normal anyway? It's just so... conformist. And c'mon...surely it wasn't that bad.
nah it wasn't, i was just hamming it up. melkor is very understanding when he wants to be :D
back to "normal" is what i meant. normal according to the doctors at the institue, that is;)

Put your nation on Vacation Mode then.:D

j/k
oh ha ha:rolleyes::p

You know what I hate? I hate it when people say something to the effect of:

"If they're going to illegalize hateful speech from Christians they should do the same for Muslims. I just think they should be consistant and fair whatever they choose to do."

How could any rational person who claims to support freedom hold such a nuetral position on the issue as a whole, saying that he/she only wants fairness? Freedom of speech is so vastly more important to me than fairness that I would rather have one suppressed group and one free group than two equally suppressed groups, even if I happened to belong to the suppressed group. I think that, if everyone took that kind of attitude concerning freedom of speech, we would have freedom and fairness, since no groups would be withheld from expressing their views.

Fringe groups...There is a reason they are fringe.

Yeah. let's ban the Qu'aran, then let's bomb Mecca, that will surely show the Muslims who's boss.:rolleyes:

"Nowhere in the bible does it say to kill unbelievers?"

I would suggest that Mr. Green read Deuteronomy 13:6-9 and 13:12-16.

You all don’t get it do you? The group is protesting the limits on freedom of speech by saying that the Qur’an should be banned because it inspires hate. They don’t really want it banned. Shit.

You all don’t get it do you? The group is protesting the limits on freedom of speech by saying that the Qur’an should be banned because it inspires hate. They don’t really want it banned. Shit.
No, actually I got that. I just wanted to vent about something that really annoys me. I should have put in my post that it does not necessarily apply to the group mentioned in the opening post.

You all don’t get it do you? The group is protesting the limits on freedom of speech by saying that the Qur’an should be banned because it inspires hate. They don’t really want it banned. Shit.
Yes we got that on page one.

The Koran does qualify as incitement to hatred, as much as Mein Kampf, in fact more so. Mohammed may have been unclear and confused and self contradicting, but he was far more specific about who Moslems are supposed to kill and how they are supposed to kill them, than Hitler ever was.

It does not mean the book should be banned, everyone should read it. Especially the kind of hippie left wingers who think that “Jihad” means “A small sweet fluffy pastry served at children’s birthday parties” and so on.

The Bible also tells us to stone adulterous women, and in the KJV not to allow a witch to live, and how to deal with one's enemies. Should that also be banned?

The Bible also tells us to stone adulterous women, and in the KJV not to allow a witch to live, and how to deal with one's enemies. Should that also be banned?

Under the hate crime laws of the UK, yes.

Firstly, WTF?
Secondly, not having read the Qur'an, I don't know whether there are any parts of it that could be targeted under the proposed racial and religious hatred law.
Thirdly, even if there are parts that perhaps could lead to justified protests about it, would the government be stupid enough to ban or restrict the sale of the Qur'an in public bookshops?
Banning it would be dumb, if only because if Xtians were to actually read it they would find out that it is sillier and more convoluted than the Bible.

It's not the Qur'an that is dangerous, it's the Loons who try to interpret it (or any "holy" book) into a form of totalitarian government.

Banning it would be dumb, if only because if Xtians were to actually read it they would find out that it is sillier and more convoluted than the Bible.

What part?

Especially the kind of hippie left wingers who think that “Jihad” means “A small sweet fluffy pastry served at children’s birthday parties” and so on.

I'm willing to bet you don't know what it means either. I'm also willing to bet that I know what you think it means and I can tell you already that you're wrong.

Further, I'm willing to bet, based on every post you've made, that you're merely someone's puppet here to spread hatred for Muslims. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's against some rule somewhere.

What part?
All of it... since I don't believe either. (I am a deist and don't believe in "revelations" of any sort.) But that's beside the point. I was being snarky. :p

I was being snarky. :p

You? Never! ;)

The Bible also tells us to stone adulterous women, and in the KJV not to allow a witch to live, and how to deal with one's enemies. Should that also be banned?


According to the Christian Bible, you deal with your enemies by loving them and turning cheeks. As far as Judaism is concerned, read below.

Christians rejected some of these laws, most are simply out of date because the specific prerequisites regarding the laws, no longer exist. Stoning for example had to be done in a particular place after a Judgment had been made. Neither the judges, nor the place, exist any longer.

As far as not allowing a Witch to live, like most Jewish Laws, this only applies to that area within the Holy Land. If you are a witch, I suggest living someplace else and there are plenty of someplace elses to live. Of course wherever you live, you will have a problem with Moslems who do not recognize borders of any kind in terms of the enforcement of their laws. As far as Islam is concerned, it is their duty to enforce Sharia, as far as the four corners of the earth.

I'm willing to bet you don't know what it means either. I'm also willing to bet that I know what you think it means and I can tell you already that you're wrong.

Further, I'm willing to bet, based on every post you've made, that you're merely someone's puppet here to spread hatred for Muslims. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's against some rule somewhere.


So you wish to ban honest debate as well as the Christian Bible and the Jewish Torah? Why not follow your religion by smiting me above my neck and on all of my fingertips?

There is no reason to believe the Hollywoodite definition of Jihad. It was an aggressive action under Mohammed, it was aggressive under his successors and it is aggressive now. Not necessarily a matter of war, Mohammed went in to some other alternatives. He like the Japanese saw all efforts to make the world Islam as a matter of conquest. You too are then engaging in your own jihad by spreading propaganda and accusing me of hate speech in an effort to mislead and disarm those in the west with soft hearts and soft heads, cajoling them in to slavery with stories of how wonderfully peaceful those Moslems are.

So you wish to ban honest debate as well as the Christian Bible and the Jewish Torah? Why not follow your religion by smiting me above my neck and on all of my fingertips?
It's people like you that make me want to drop Atheism and become Muslim.

All the propaganda and missionaries in the world couldn't make me believe, but I'd consider it just to spite people like you.

There is no reason to believe the Hollywoodite definition of Jihad. It was an aggressive action under Mohammed, it was aggressive under his successors and it is aggressive now. Not necessarily a matter of war, Mohammed went in to some other alternatives. He like the Japanese saw all efforts to make the world Islam as a matter of conquest. You too are then engaging in your own jihad by spreading propaganda and accusing me of hate speech in an effort to mislead and disarm those in the west with soft hearts and soft heads, cajoling them in to slavery with stories of how wonderfully peaceful those Moslems are.
International islamic conspiracies are just as dumb as international jewish conspiracies, and you are on a level with those who advocate the latter. :rolleyes:

So you wish to ban honest debate as well as the Christian Bible and the Jewish Torah?Your method of debating, however, more resembles an ad hominem attack than a constructive arguement:
You too are then engaging in your own jihad by spreading propaganda and accusing me of hate speech in an effort to mislead and disarm those in the west with soft hearts and soft heads, cajoling them in to slavery with stories of how wonderfully peaceful those Moslems are.

So you wish to ban honest debate as well as the Christian Bible and the Jewish Torah?

Honest debate is fine. You do not debate honestly. You make things up and spread lies. That is not honest debate.

Why not follow your religion by smiting me above my neck and on all of my fingertips?

Because you are not my enemy.

Because you are not my enemy.

Guess you haven't read the Koran then. Jews are your enemy.

Guess you haven't read the Koran then. Jews are your enemy.
Yes, because the Qu'ran doesn't say anything about the People of the Book not being enemies. Wait...

Guess you haven't read the Koran then. Jews are your enemy.

No ... Jews are not my enemy. All those who believe in God are my brothers and sisters, be they Jew, Christian, or Muslim. Maybe *you* have not read Qur'an.

Koran [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Wow, that sounds like you can't be friendly to a Jew or a Christian. Doesn't sound too nice to me. I'll look for some more.

Koran [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Wow, that sounds like you can't be friendly to a Jew or a Christian. Doesn't sound too nice to me. I'll look for some more.

That doesn't say they're my enemy, now does it. It doesn't say smite them or fly planes into their buildings or blow up their subways or kill their children, does it?

All it says is that when dealing with them, remember that they'll probably mistrust you out of hand (just as people like you prove every day) so be careful in your day to day dealings with them.

The Jews have a similar saying that my mother drilled into me from a very early age: Scratch a goy and you'll find an antisemite.

That doesn't say they're my enemy, now does it. It doesn't say smite them or fly planes into their buildings or blow up their subways or kill their children, does it?

All it says is that when dealing with them, remember that they'll probably mistrust you out of hand (just as people like you prove every day) so be careful in your day to day dealings with them.

The Jews have a similar saying that my mother drilled into me from a very early age: Scratch a goy and you'll find an antisemite.

I think it's pretty clear - you're not to be friendly to any Jew or Christian - and if you are, God is going to make life hard for you.

So, if you're not a friend, you either have to remain a stranger (which, if you live next door to hundreds of non-Islamic people is nearly impossible), or you have to become.... an enemy. Just to please God.

I think it's pretty clear - you're not to be friendly to any Jew or Christian - and if you are, God is going to make life hard for you.


No ... you are wrong. Maybe you should read the verses that surround it, plus the footnote commentary on it and pay attention to Muhammed's sermons on such things. You'll find your assessment of that one little sentence completely inaccurate.

Of course, you can't be bothered to do that. It's easier for you to mistrust, thus proving the verse true.

Also, just because you're not someone's friend, doesn't mean you're their enemy. I'm not your friend, but I'm certainly not your enemy.

Koran [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

Wow, that sounds like you can't be friendly to a Jew or a Christian. Doesn't sound too nice to me. I'll look for some more.
you can't be serious? there are similar verses in the Bible talking about not being "yoked" together with unbeilievers
I didn't take it as offensive.

you can't be serious? there are similar verses in the Bible talking about not being "yoked" together with unbeilievers
I didn't take it as offensive.

The similar phrases in the Bible certainly explain the behavior of the radical Christians who have done strange and violent things in the past.

I'm pointing out that the people who committed violence and were Muslims were indeed Muslims. Keruvalia is trying to make out as if they weren't Muslims.

When you think about it, people in the "Christian Identity" movement, or people like David Koresh, or people like abortion clinic bombers are members of the Christian religion. And they are insipired (albeit in a twisted way) by Christian texts to do what they do.

Keruvalia seems to think that by saying, "those terrorists are not Moslems" he can absolve everything.

It doesn't work that way.

Keruvalia seems to think that by saying, "those terrorists are not Moslems" he can absolve everything.


No, it absolves nothing. What it does do, however, is make damn sure over a billion peaceful, innocent folks are not lumped in with murderous savages.

I believe you're a White person, correct? So, from now on, to avoid being a hypocrite, I fully expect you to apologize daily for black slavery and actively seek out a means of paying restitution to black people.

Go ahead ... I'll wait.

No, it absolves nothing. What it does do, however, is make damn sure over a billion peaceful, innocent folks are not lumped in with murderous savages.

I believe you're a White person, correct? So, from now on, to avoid being a hypocrite, I fully expect you to apologize daily for black slavery and actively seek out a means of paying restitution to black people.

Go ahead ... I'll wait.

It's hard to see what Koreans would apologize for...

It's hard to see what Koreans would apologize for...

Korean? Well ok ... if you're Korean, then you better start apologizing for all those forced abortions on pregnant repatriates from China.

Go ahead ... I'll wait.

Korean? Well ok ... if you're Korean, then you better start apologizing for all those forced abortions on pregnant repatriates from China.

Go ahead ... I'll wait.

I apologize. See? It isn't that hard, is it?

I apologize. See? It isn't that hard, is it?

Do you really mean that? I'll have to see it every day, three times a day before I can believe it. It's what you expect of me, after all.

Though I seriously doubt you would apologize for something you had no involvement in ... unless you did have involvement in that ....

Do you really mean that? I'll have to see it every day, three times a day before I can believe it. It's what you expect of me, after all.

Though I seriously doubt you would apologize for something you had no involvement in ... unless you did have involvement in that ....

Hey. It would at least be my responsibility to ask other Koreans about it, and if they knew about it, and if they knew anyone back in Korea who could do anything about it.

I've apologized for things I had no direct involvement in. If you remain silent, you silence is interpreted by those who do those acts as your assent - your silent approval. You may not wish to be giving your approval, but it is there.

When not one madrassa on the face of the planet is teaching that we should kill every Jew behind every tree - that's when all this will stop. And how would that come to pass? By every Muslim talking to one another and saying "this should stop". Teaching their children that it should stop.

The similar phrases in the Bible certainly explain the behavior of the radical Christians who have done strange and violent things in the past.

I'm pointing out that the people who committed violence and were Muslims were indeed Muslims. Keruvalia is trying to make out as if they weren't Muslims.

When you think about it, people in the "Christian Identity" movement, or people like David Koresh, or people like abortion clinic bombers are members of the Christian religion. And they are insipired (albeit in a twisted way) by Christian texts to do what they do.

Keruvalia seems to think that by saying, "those terrorists are not Moslems" he can absolve everything.

It doesn't work that way.

attacking his entire religion and his holy texts because of what some extremists do is wrong.

I know that you get annoyed when people attack Christianity because of what Pat Robertson says, or because of the crusades.

It isn't fair for you to do the same. You posted, I believe today that "most Christians don't see Pat Robertson as a Christian leader" and most Muslims I have talked to don't want anything to do with the terrorists either.

we are in very similar boats.

btw I am not close friends with non-believers and I don't see my self as extreme, just because they are not my close friends doesn't make them my enemies.

attacking his entire religion and his holy texts because of what some extremists do is wrong.

I know that you get annoyed when people attack Christianity because of what Pat Robertson says, or because of the crusades.

It isn't fair for you to do the same. You posted, I believe today that "most Christians don't see Pat Robertson as a Christian leader" and most Muslims I have talked to don't want anything to do with the terrorists either.

we are in very similar boats.

btw I am not close friends with non-believers and I don't see my self as extreme, just because they are not my close friends doesn't make them my enemies.


It's still necessary for me to say that Pat Robertson is an ass.

It's still necessary for me to say that Pat Robertson is an ass.
okay. but how about Ron Phelps? I have said many times that I don't believe he is a true Christian. he spreads hate in the name of God, but his actions are not in the least what I would consider Christian.

okay. but how about Ron Phelps? I have said many times that I don't believe he is a true Christian. he spreads hate in the name of God, but his actions are not in the least what I would consider Christian.

It's my job to tell Christian children that Ron Phelps is wrong. To teach them not to be like him. To explain that his message is wrong.

Ron Phelps certainly believes he's a Christian. And many people believe that he is a Christian.

It's my job to make sure that instead of saying, "sorry, he's not a Christian" that I make every effort to make sure that the Christians I do know and can influence don't do what Fred Phelps does.

Hey. It would at least be my responsibility to ask other Koreans about it, and if they knew about it, and if they knew anyone back in Korea who could do anything about it.

No I think it is your responsibility to rise up and get rid of Kim Jong Il.

Why don't you?

I'm guessing it's for the exact same reason why I don't go take out al-Zarqawi.

What I teach my children is inconsequential.

I'm an American. I have never in my life seen a terrorist face to face. I can't ask people "back home" about it because I already am "back home". Nobody at my mosque has ever seen or known a terrorist.

You ask the impossible, but will refuse to do it yourself.

What I teach my children is inconsequential.

That's the problem in a nutshell - showing the children by silent assent that it's ok for Muslims to act crazy.

That's the problem in a nutshell - showing the children by silent assent that it's ok for Muslims to act crazy.

No ... it is inconsequential. It serves no purpose or function. You, through your own words, have tried to show that *all* Muslims are loons who want to kill everyone.

I will not teach my children those lies anymore than I would teach my daughters to mistrust all Koreans because Kim Jong-Il ordered forced abortions on some women and that any Korean who didn't speak up about it and against it, even Korean Americans who've been in this country for 3-5 generations, must therefore be in agreement with it and, possibly, condone it.

No ... I will not teach my children mistrust and ignorance. Thanks all the same.

You, through your own words, have tried to show that *all* Muslims are loons who want to kill everyone.

I said nothing of the sort.

You could teach your children as I posted earlier, that Islam is a fine religion. There are just some of its radical members who are doing terrible things in its name. And that they should never do those things. Especially not in the name of Allah or Islam.

Its universal. It doesn’t matter if its Christianity, Islam, the USA, Iraq, or any other group of people, they are always represented in the public eye by the worst examples among them. It’s a sad but true fact of human nature.

That's the problem in a nutshell - showing the children by silent assent that it's ok for Muslims to act crazy.
I doubt that he is teaching that to his children.
I don't speak to my children about the many raving lunatics in the world who claim to be 'hating in the name of God' I teach them what the Bible says and let them decide what they think about it. Anyway it really isn't any of our business how he raises his children as it is not any of his business how I raise mine.
Kids are for the most part pretty intelligent, if you give them basic knowledge they can pretty much figure out the world by themselves, I provide my kids with what they need to know to make decisions, and let them have at it, telling kids how to think or what to think doesn't prepare them for anything but how to jump on the band wagon of whoever is telling them what to think.

It's people like you that make me want to drop Atheism and become Muslim.

All the propaganda and missionaries in the world couldn't make me believe, but I'd consider it just to spite people like you.


It would be a good survival strategy for you, just in case we lose. Of course, by converting to Islam you are joining their war and if you convert honestly, that would require you learn many skills, like bomb making and cutting the heads off of things.

International islamic conspiracies are just as dumb as international jewish conspiracies, and you are on a level with those who advocate the latter. :rolleyes:


The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion were a very poor hoax, a piece of fiction with a few names changed to become Jews, but only a layman’s understanding of Jewish Law. What is more, I have known two Rabbis to argue for thirty years about how long one should wait after eating dairy to eat meat, then the writers of this book claim that all Jewish leaders gathered to agree on the entire content of this book, in one night, while standing in a graveyard?

Nazis believed this story however and so do many Moslems, the Palestinian Authority even had this on their website. They took it off the English Website recently I believe, but left it on the Arabic one.

Moslems do not need a Conspiracy. They have the Koran. Just as Christians have their bible, telling them to love and forgive, just as we have our books telling us to rebuild Israel, Moslems have their book, telling them to Smite Infidels until they are all dead or Moslems.

That doesn't say they're my enemy, now does it. It doesn't say smite them or fly planes into their buildings or blow up their subways or kill their children, does it?

All it says is that when dealing with them, remember that they'll probably mistrust you out of hand (just as people like you prove every day) so be careful in your day to day dealings with them.

The Jews have a similar saying that my mother drilled into me from a very early age: Scratch a goy and you'll find an antisemite.


I prefer not to scratch Goyim thank you very much.

I had an uncle, he was blond, blue eyed; he was in the Ghetto and on his way out to a camp, a Nazi Officer saw him and asked him if he was Jewish and he said yes. They asked him if he was Jewish on both sides of the family and he said yes. They asked him if he would renounce his heritage and become a Nazi and be spared and he refused. He survived in the camps, he came to America after the war and became a law professor.

Haber converted to Christianity in the hopes that the Nazis would spare him. They didn’t. He was forced to leave, tried to go to Israel after Britain would not take him and had a heart attack along the way.

The Koran does say to Smite us, unless we do what you did, throw off our morals and our people and join the Islamic Reich. The Koran does not say anything about blowing us up or flying aircraft in to buildings, after all, Mohammed could never have known about those things, because he was not a prophet.

We should know, we tested him, we rejected him and he killed us for it.

the problem is that muslims pay full respect to jews and christians, while jews and some christians don't, i find that just silly... and i have no idea why that is, im a muslim, and i can beat up someone who says anything against Christianity or judaism(to be honest, not judaism, co i never met any jew, but i would be upset), for the simple fact that my religion , Islam, is based on these religions, yet if islam is mocked off, (which is like daily on the forums, i find some small group of christians defending it, and ofcourse muslims, if they happen to see the thread.
i wonder why is that???

I prefer not to scratch Goyim thank you very much.

I had an uncle, he was blond, blue eyed; he was in the Ghetto and on his way out to a camp, a Nazi Officer saw him and asked him if he was Jewish and he said yes. They asked him if he was Jewish on both sides of the family and he said yes. They asked him if he would renounce his heritage and become a Nazi and be spared and he refused. He survived in the camps, he came to America after the war and became a law professor.

Haber converted to Christianity in the hopes that the Nazis would spare him. They didn’t. He was forced to leave, tried to go to Israel after Britain would not take him and had a heart attack along the way.


We should know, we tested him, we rejected him and he killed us for it.

i doubt the whole idea of the holocust, the whole jewsih population today is 14 million, and it is said that 6 million died in the holocust, which means there were more then 6 million jews living in germany, poland etc..., so how did the jewish population didnt increase???, i mean who said there are 6 million jews died in the holocust??? just wondering really...
and if you dont believ that Mohamed is a prophet then taught luck, you have your religion and i have mine(islam) islam wont fall if you dont adopt to islam. so instead of trying to spread hatered among the world against Muslims, why not try to work with arabs and muslims for peace, since the first Peace treaty in the world was signed by Arabs and the first peace treaty in the 5th century was signed by Arabs and the lasr peace treaty in the regio was also signed by Arabs...

Firstly, WTF?
Secondly, not having read the Qur'an, I don't know whether there are any parts of it that could be targeted under the proposed racial and religious hatred law.
Thirdly, even if there are parts that perhaps could lead to justified protests about it, would the government be stupid enough to ban or restrict the sale of the Qur'an in public bookshops?

Ye well, didn't they ban winnie the pooh and piglet because it insulted muslims? makes sense they should have something of theirs banned too.

that's just the absurdity of the law....

but if they did ban the koran, then they would try to ban every other religious book... its just so pointless.

Ye well, didn't they ban winnie the pooh and piglet because it insulted muslims? makes sense they should have something of theirs banned too.


I knew it!! Christians worship Piglet!!!

I knew it!! Christians worship Piglet!!!

>_>
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No we don't!
>_>
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WHO TOLD YOU?!?!

:p

WHO TOLD YOU?!?!


Erhm...Jesus?