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An extensive list of Republican Pedophiles.

Chomskyrion
12-10-2005, 19:24
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.



Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.


Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.


Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.


Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.



Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.



Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.



Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.



Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.



Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.



Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.



Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.


Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.


Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.



Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.


Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.


Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.


Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.



Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.


Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.


Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.


Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.


Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.



Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.



Republican party chairman and Christian Coalition leader, Louis Beres is under investigation for sexually molesting his children.



Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.



Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.


Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.



Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.


Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.



Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.



Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.




Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.




Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.



Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.


Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.


Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.



Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).



Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.



Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.


Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.



Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.



Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.



Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.



Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.


Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.



Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.


Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.


Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.



Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.



Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.


Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.



Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency
I guess the Catholic Church isn't the only "Christian" organization molesting children.

So think twice next time a Republican wants to kiss your baby.
The South Islands
12-10-2005, 19:27
I doubt the authenticity of this site.
Chomskyrion
12-10-2005, 19:29
I doubt the authenticity of this site.
You can't. On the website, all of their statements are sourced in the media. :D
Sarcodina
12-10-2005, 19:31
NOAM CHOMSKY IS A DOUCHEBAG!...no further comment, your honor.
Sierra BTHP
12-10-2005, 19:32
You can't. On the website, all of their statements are sourced in the media. :D

I doubt that pedophilia is a Republican-only phenomena.

Interestingly, most pedophiles in the US ARE Star Trek fans - die hard fans at that.

Last month, there was some discussion in the blogosphere about the alleged Star Trek-pedophile connection. According to an article in the L. A. Times (no longer available online), detectives in the Toronto sex crimes unit had noticed that “All but one of the [over 100] offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.”

So, what does this tell us about Star Trek fans? Jokes aside, most commentators have emphasized what it doesn’t tell us. Even if all pedophiles were Trek fans, we could not logically conclude that all Trek fans are pedophiles. Said the article’s original author, “It is important to note that they are not saying that every Star Trek fan is a pedophile -- just that it was a surprisingly common element among those they had arrested.”

But that’s needlessly all-or-nothing thinking. We can’t say anything with certainty about Trek fans’ sexual tendencies, but we can make judgments of probability. The question is this: Given that someone is a hard-core Trek fan, what is the probability that he is a pedophile?

We can address this question through an application of Bayes’ Rule. We also need some other statistics: the percentage of the whole population who are pedophiles, and the percentage of the non-pedophiles who are Trek fans. These are both rather difficult to estimate.

I couldn’t find an estimate of what fraction of the public is pedophile; no one wants to commit to a figure. But based on the number of men surveyed who say they were sexually abused in their youth (about 16%) and the average number of victims per sexual abuser (about 100 victims each, according to a website I can’t find anymore), we can guess that about 0.08% of people are sexual abusers of male children. Doing the same with numbers for female victims (27% of women sexually abused in youth, 20 victims per abuser), about 0.675% of people are sexual abusers of female children. Assuming the two groups don’t overlap, we can figure 0.755% of people is a sexual abuser of children. Allowing for some overlap, I’ll round down to 0.5%, or one person in 200. I will call these people “pedophiles.” [UPDATE: I realized later that I've assumed an impossible amount of overlap, so the pedophile-percentage should be larger. That would result in an even bigger estimate of the probability a Trek fan is a pedophile.] (Lots of assumptions are built into these calculations, so take them with a grain of salt.)

So what about the fraction of the non-pedophiles who are Trek fans? This one’s even more difficult to estimate. We can approximate it with the fraction of general public who are Trek fans (since pedophiles are so rare). As many as 50% of Americans claim to be Trek fans – but we’re not interested in just run-of-the-mill fans; we need the kind of fans who would have Trek paraphernalia in their homes for detectives to discover. I’m going to make a wild stab and say 1%. That’s probably too high. But assuming a large number here will give us a conservative estimate of the probability that a Trek fan is a pedophile.

Now for the calculations. Say we have a population of 100,000 people. Of those people, 99,500 are normal and 500 pedophiles. Since 1% of the normals are Trek fans, we have 995 normal Trek fans. Since 99% of pedophiles are Trek fans (according to the Toronto detectives), we have 495 pedophile Trek fans. So the fraction of all Trek fans who are pedophiles is 495 / [495 + 9950] = 0.332. That is, almost a third of hard-core Trek fans are pedophiles!

Now, just to be clear, there’s still a 67% chance your Trekker neighbor is perfectly normal (in the sense of not molesting kids). On the other hand, 33% is 66 times larger than the chance a non-Trekker is a pedophile. If it makes you feel any better, keep in mind that we’re only taking about hard-core Trekkers here.

My calculations are highly sensitive to the assumptions, particularly the percent of the general public who are pedophiles. If you’d like to redo the calculations using your own assumptions, here’s the formula:

ac / [ac + (1 - a)b]

where a = fraction of general public who are pedophiles; b = fraction of the non-pedophile public who are Trek fans; and c = fraction of pedophiles who are Trek fans. My calculations assumed a = 0.005, b = 0.01, and c = 0.99.

I welcome corrections to my calculations, since I’d rather not be suspicious of my Trek-loving friends.
The South Islands
12-10-2005, 19:32
You're right. I missed that.

Nevermind then.
Knootian East Indies
12-10-2005, 19:46
Sierra BTHP... that is hilarious.

Anyway, I'm as liberal as they get and I think posting these kinds of lists is stupid, partisan stuff really. Frankly, it is a bit disgusting that a democrat would have to resort to this sort of mudslinging. If you're going to attack Republicans, go after - say- their [appalling] policies instead?
Sierra BTHP
12-10-2005, 19:51
Sierra BTHP... that is hilarious.

Anyway, I'm as liberal as they get and I think posting these kinds of lists is stupid, partisan stuff really. Frankly, it is a bit disgusting that a democrat would have to resort to this sort of mudslinging. If you're going to attack Republicans, go after - say- their [appalling] policies instead?

It's been a pet peeve of mine - I've often thought that if Kerry and Bush had faced Blair at the Presidential Debates, Blair (even if you don't like him) would have wiped the floor with them. He's that much more intelligent and well-spoken than either candidate.

The fact that both Kerry and Bush were such ill-spoken boobs makes me wonder why people don't just stick to cornering our politicians on issues.

Neither Kerry, nor Bush, could answer questions well - questions for which they were supposedly prepared.

The mudslinging isn't really necessary. You don't even have to wait for them to commit some other crime - you can raise the issues that are at hand.
Chomskyrion
12-10-2005, 19:58
DID I OFFICIALLY KILL THE STEREOTYPE ABOUT CATHOLIC PEDOPHILES?
Sierra BTHP
12-10-2005, 19:59
DID I OFFICIALLY KILL THE STEREOTYPE ABOUT CATHOLIC PEDOPHILES?

No, and Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-10-2005, 20:00
DID I OFFICIALLY KILL THE STEREOTYPE ABOUT CATHOLIC PEDOPHILES?
I'm wondering about the stereotype that people who use big text are compensating for something. Hmm . . . .

EDIT: Damn, looks like Sierra got a better one liner in, and did it before me.
Letila
12-10-2005, 20:05
The pædotrekker thing was a hoax, I heard, but one that fooled a number of psychologists.

I suppose by now, news of Republican hypocrisy doesn't seem to shock me anymore, though.
Ravenshrike
12-10-2005, 20:10
I doubt that pedophilia is a Republican-only phenomena.

Interestingly, most pedophiles in the US ARE Star Trek fans - die hard fans at that.

Last month, there was some discussion in the blogosphere about the alleged Star Trek-pedophile connection. According to an article in the L. A. Times (no longer available online), detectives in the Toronto sex crimes unit had noticed that “All but one of the [over 100] offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.”

So, what does this tell us about Star Trek fans?
It could just mean that most pedophiles who get caught are Star trek fans. Meanwhile, most pedophiles who don't get caught are not star trek fans. Of course, Trekkies are just a bit odd, so it might not be that after all.
Knootian East Indies
12-10-2005, 20:11
a) Big font size bad, hmmk?
b) Chomsky would not resort to this sort of thing.

Re: Sierra BTHP
Blair has Question Time weekly, so I have no doubt about it that you are right. All hail question time ;)
Ravenshrike
12-10-2005, 20:11
I doubt that pedophilia is a Republican-only phenomena.

Interestingly, most pedophiles in the US ARE Star Trek fans - die hard fans at that.

Last month, there was some discussion in the blogosphere about the alleged Star Trek-pedophile connection. According to an article in the L. A. Times (no longer available online), detectives in the Toronto sex crimes unit had noticed that “All but one of the [over 100] offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.”

So, what does this tell us about Star Trek fans?
It could just mean that most pedophiles who get caught are Star trek fans. Meanwhile, most pedophiles who don't get caught are not star trek fans. Of course, Trekkies are just a bit odd, so it might not be that after all.



As for the thread starter, I suppose if the republicans were getting their asses handed to them in the voting booths like the dems have been lately, that a list like the above could be found about democrats.
The South Islands
12-10-2005, 20:12
The pædotrekker thing was a hoax, I heard, but one that fooled a number of psychologists.

I suppose by now, news of Republican hypocrisy doesn't seem to shock me anymore, though.

I suppose anybody from the left would be incapible of sexually abusing a child?
Knootian East Indies
12-10-2005, 20:15
I suppose anybody from the left would be incapible of sexually abusing a child?

(And that is coming from the man who sexually abused my fiancee! ;) )

Maybe we can NOT make this a partisan issue? Pedophile witchhunts are stupid. Really, really stupid. shouting "pedophile" is about the equivalent of shouting "nazi" in any discussion. It makes any sort of exchange of ideas completely impossible. ;)
The South Islands
12-10-2005, 20:20
(And that is coming from the man who sexually abused my fiancee! ;) )

Maybe we can NOT make this a partisan issue? Pedophile witchhunts are stupid. Really, really stupid. shouting "pedophile" is about the equivalent of shouting "nazi" in any discussion. It makes any sort of exchange of ideas completely impossible. ;)

But the initial poster DID make it a partisan issue!

To me , it seems like he is making the point that only these republicans could possibly do something this terrible.
Knootian East Indies
12-10-2005, 20:23
Then I suggest we just read what the initial poster has written, dismiss it as hackery and leave him be.

Mind you, he did not actually make the point that non-Republicans are clean, but I agree that it is fairly stupid. Anyway, uhm, I guess I should stop posting in this thread to stop giving it more unwarranted attention. Oh well.
Sarcodina
14-10-2005, 06:08
As crazy American religious fundamentalist card carrying Republican, I enjoy this thread. two posts...

//No, and Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics.//
//I'm wondering about the stereotype that people who use big text are compensating for something. Hmm . . . .//

Noam Chomsky is someone who just takes advantage young minds and corrupts into thinking that Marx Espresso (cool new Marxism that has nothing to with the gulags) is so cool. He is a jackhole, a holocaust denier, and an absolute arse. To bad MIT people have no idea about political thought... I mean if I was teaching linguistics there, I'd go crazy too.
Leonstein
14-10-2005, 06:25
An extensive list of Republican Pedophiles

Oooh, that's really low.
Rotovia-
14-10-2005, 06:31
I doubt that pedophilia is a Republican-only phenomena.Neither is a Cahtolic-only phenomena.
LazyHippies
14-10-2005, 06:39
This is a meaningless list. The number of activists for independent parties in the US is tiny. Therefore, if you were to take a look at convicted pedophiles who were politically active, you would expect to find that close to half of them are republican and close to half of them are democrat. This is not at all interesting, it is expected.
Mods can be so cruel
14-10-2005, 07:02
Sierra BTHP... that is hilarious.

Anyway, I'm as liberal as they get and I think posting these kinds of lists is stupid, partisan stuff really. Frankly, it is a bit disgusting that a democrat would have to resort to this sort of mudslinging. If you're going to attack Republicans, go after - say- their [appalling] policies instead?



Because Republicans think Bush is still doing a good job. Some of them anyways. Or they're saying "well, it'd be a million times worse with a democratic president!"

Um...Clinton's low is 39% Bush's is 26%. That should be enough to silence any blustering, shouldn't it?
Gartref
14-10-2005, 07:49
As a Republican studying for the priesthood, who is also the president of the Phoenix-Metro-Area William Shatner Fan Club, I find this thread offensive. As does my lover, Scooter.
The Plutonian Empire
14-10-2005, 10:45
I doubt that pedophilia is a Republican-only phenomena.

Interestingly, most pedophiles in the US ARE Star Trek fans - die hard fans at that.

Last month, there was some discussion in the blogosphere about the alleged Star Trek-pedophile connection. According to an article in the L. A. Times (no longer available online), detectives in the Toronto sex crimes unit had noticed that “All but one of the [over 100] offenders they have arrested in the last four years was a hard-core Trekkie.”

So, what does this tell us about Star Trek fans? Jokes aside, most commentators have emphasized what it doesn’t tell us. Even if all pedophiles were Trek fans, we could not logically conclude that all Trek fans are pedophiles. Said the article’s original author, “It is important to note that they are not saying that every Star Trek fan is a pedophile -- just that it was a surprisingly common element among those they had arrested.”

But that’s needlessly all-or-nothing thinking. We can’t say anything with certainty about Trek fans’ sexual tendencies, but we can make judgments of probability. The question is this: Given that someone is a hard-core Trek fan, what is the probability that he is a pedophile?

We can address this question through an application of Bayes’ Rule. We also need some other statistics: the percentage of the whole population who are pedophiles, and the percentage of the non-pedophiles who are Trek fans. These are both rather difficult to estimate.

I couldn’t find an estimate of what fraction of the public is pedophile; no one wants to commit to a figure. But based on the number of men surveyed who say they were sexually abused in their youth (about 16%) and the average number of victims per sexual abuser (about 100 victims each, according to a website I can’t find anymore), we can guess that about 0.08% of people are sexual abusers of male children. Doing the same with numbers for female victims (27% of women sexually abused in youth, 20 victims per abuser), about 0.675% of people are sexual abusers of female children. Assuming the two groups don’t overlap, we can figure 0.755% of people is a sexual abuser of children. Allowing for some overlap, I’ll round down to 0.5%, or one person in 200. I will call these people “pedophiles.” [UPDATE: I realized later that I've assumed an impossible amount of overlap, so the pedophile-percentage should be larger. That would result in an even bigger estimate of the probability a Trek fan is a pedophile.] (Lots of assumptions are built into these calculations, so take them with a grain of salt.)

So what about the fraction of the non-pedophiles who are Trek fans? This one’s even more difficult to estimate. We can approximate it with the fraction of general public who are Trek fans (since pedophiles are so rare). As many as 50% of Americans claim to be Trek fans – but we’re not interested in just run-of-the-mill fans; we need the kind of fans who would have Trek paraphernalia in their homes for detectives to discover. I’m going to make a wild stab and say 1%. That’s probably too high. But assuming a large number here will give us a conservative estimate of the probability that a Trek fan is a pedophile.

Now for the calculations. Say we have a population of 100,000 people. Of those people, 99,500 are normal and 500 pedophiles. Since 1% of the normals are Trek fans, we have 995 normal Trek fans. Since 99% of pedophiles are Trek fans (according to the Toronto detectives), we have 495 pedophile Trek fans. So the fraction of all Trek fans who are pedophiles is 495 / [495 + 9950] = 0.332. That is, almost a third of hard-core Trek fans are pedophiles!

Now, just to be clear, there’s still a 67% chance your Trekker neighbor is perfectly normal (in the sense of not molesting kids). On the other hand, 33% is 66 times larger than the chance a non-Trekker is a pedophile. If it makes you feel any better, keep in mind that we’re only taking about hard-core Trekkers here.

My calculations are highly sensitive to the assumptions, particularly the percent of the general public who are pedophiles. If you’d like to redo the calculations using your own assumptions, here’s the formula:

ac / [ac + (1 - a)b]

where a = fraction of general public who are pedophiles; b = fraction of the non-pedophile public who are Trek fans; and c = fraction of pedophiles who are Trek fans. My calculations assumed a = 0.005, b = 0.01, and c = 0.99.

I welcome corrections to my calculations, since I’d rather not be suspicious of my Trek-loving friends.
In my opinion, the reason some trekkies become pedo's is probably because they (the ones who become pedo's) are of the stereotype that Trekkies can't get laid because they're nerdy or something like that, so the look to the younger generation. Yikes.

I could be wrong though, hopefully.
Sierra BTHP
14-10-2005, 12:09
As crazy American religious fundamentalist card carrying Republican, I enjoy this thread. two posts...

//No, and Chomsky should have stuck to linguistics.//
//I'm wondering about the stereotype that people who use big text are compensating for something. Hmm . . . .//

Noam Chomsky is someone who just takes advantage young minds and corrupts into thinking that Marx Espresso (cool new Marxism that has nothing to with the gulags) is so cool. He is a jackhole, a holocaust denier, and an absolute arse. To bad MIT people have no idea about political thought... I mean if I was teaching linguistics there, I'd go crazy too.

It's too easy to beat on Chomsky. But you're tempting me to join in.
Jello Biafra
14-10-2005, 12:16
It's too easy to beat on Chomsky. But you're tempting me to join in.Why would you beat on the most competent political theorist in America today?
Sierra BTHP
14-10-2005, 12:18
Why would you beat on the most competent political theorist in America today?

Don't make me laugh.
Jello Biafra
14-10-2005, 12:24
Don't make me laugh.
Lol. I'd ask you to explain further, but don't want to hijack the thread.
But since the opinion that Chomsky was incompetent was out there, I had to put the opinion that he's intelligent out there, as well.
Harlesburg
14-10-2005, 12:59
Chomsky wanks.:rolleyes:
Jello Biafra
14-10-2005, 13:00
Chomsky wanks.:rolleyes:
"99% of people masturbate. The other 1% are liars." - Joyce Lynn Elders