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Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.

At times like this I wish I could use my image of Oliver from Bloom County strangling Opus and yelling "NO!"

Considering it's a poll of Alabama residents I'm actually relieved and encouraged that only about a third of them thought it was god's punishment.

How much you want to bet that of that one-third, none of them figure that it was God's wrath upon them personally, but on all those other dirty fucking sinners?

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Guys, I think I'm losing my faith in humanity. I've tried very hard to hold onto it through the failure of Communism, the election and reelection of George Bush, the recent study suggesting 1/5 Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth, and Pat Robertson... but I'm not sure how much I can take.

I mean honestly, everytime I set the bar for humanity a little lower looking for that happy compromise between faith in humanity and a realistic view, we blow my mind and go lower.

Wrath of God, you say? Katrina was NOT a natural phenomenon created by air currents and sea temperatures in the atlantic, but the WRATH OF GOD? Ughhhhh..... the ignorance... the ignorance... overwhelming... cannot stand...

***TRANSMISSION LOST***

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Guys, I think I'm losing my faith in humanity. I've tried very hard to hold onto it through the failure of Communism, the election and reelection of George Bush, the recent study suggesting 1/5 Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth, and Pat Robertson... but I'm not sure how much I can take.

I mean honestly, everytime I set the bar for humanity a little lower looking for that happy compromise between faith in humanity and a realistic view, we blow my mind and go lower.

Wrath of God, you say? Katrina was NOT a natural phenomenon created by air currents and sea temperatures in the atlantic, but the WRATH OF GOD? Ughhhhh..... the ignorance... the ignorance... overwhelming... cannot stand...

***TRANSMISSION LOST***

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Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.

While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html


and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/


Now, to use your 'enlightened' syntax;

"while I don't have a problem with blacks in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These blacks in particular should be ashamed of themselves."

Gee, not so enlightened after all, are you. I've outed your bigotry.

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Wrath of God, you say? Katrina was NOT a natural phenomenon created by air currents and sea temperatures in the atlantic, but the WRATH OF GOD? Ughhhhh..... the ignorance... the ignorance... overwhelming... cannot stand...

***TRANSMISSION LOST***

Of course it was created by air currents and sea temperatures. But who makes the wind blow and the who dictates the temperature of the ocean? That's right, our one true lord here on earth as He is in heaven, Jesus Christ.



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That third is going to be ammo for the anti-Christian aka anti-majority(they're also anti-straight, anti-white[anti-mexican in mexico], anti-person not on welfare, etc.) I dislike the anti-majorities. They want the minorities in power. They're the racist ones, not me, since I believe that there's only one race. Let the war begin. Logical people unite against those who use illogic to attack!

Guys, I think I'm losing my faith in humanity. I've tried very hard to hold onto it through the failure of Communism,
Not just letting communistic and socialistic ideas be fully buried is killing my faith in humanity. I know, lets go be drinking buddies and we can both bitch about how the other's prefered economic system is winning in its drive to strangle humanity.
the election and reelection of George Bush,
Meh, humanity would still be failing if Gore and Kerry had won. Do you want a bullet in the brain or the liver? We chose liver both times, so we get to last a bit longer and spasm more on our way out.
the recent study suggesting 1/5 Americans believe the sun revolves around the Earth,
I'd say that this means more about how sarcastic Americans are when you ask them stupid questions.
and Pat Robertson... but I'm not sure how much I can take.
The ironic thing about Pat Robertson is that his success and popularity is proof that there is no kind and loving God.
I mean honestly, everytime I set the bar for humanity a little lower looking for that happy compromise between faith in humanity and a realistic view, we blow my mind and go lower.
When you have been around as long as my immortal frame (Hey, I haven't died yet, so there is no proof that I am not immortal) has, you learn that humanity is just another set of cattle. So the trick is to cook them very well and not eat the brain in order to prevent getting Mad Human Disease, I think is the point there.
Wrath of God, you say? Katrina was NOT a natural phenomenon created by air currents and sea temperatures in the atlantic, but the WRATH OF GOD? Ughhhhh..... the ignorance... the ignorance... overwhelming... cannot stand...
I would suggest sitting when surfing the Interweb.

That third is going to be ammo for the anti-Christian aka anti-majority(they're also anti-straight, anti-white[anti-mexican in mexico], anti-person not on welfare, etc.) I dislike the anti-majorities. They want the minorities in power. They're the racist ones, not me, since I believe that there's only one race. Let the war begin. Logical people unite against those who use illogic to attack!
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While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html


and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/


Now, to use your 'enlightened' syntax;

"while I don't have a problem with blacks in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These blacks in particular should be ashamed of themselves."

Gee, not so enlightened after all, are you. I've outed your bigotry.

When did he say he was enlightened?

Oh, and I think that's pretty foolish. Just as foolish as thinking katrina was an act of god. But do I think that these people are foolish because they are black? No. If I met a white person who thought this, I would think they are pretty foolish too. The same goes for anyone who thinks that katrina was an act of god, whether or not they're christian.

Sorry if this is a double post.

While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html


and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/


Now, to use your 'enlightened' syntax;

"while I don't have a problem with blacks in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These blacks in particular should be ashamed of themselves."

Gee, not so enlightened after all, are you. I've outed your bigotry.

Lol. Not quite. Blaming particular people for their actions and beliefs is not bigoted, no matter what their race/creed. Giving anyone a free pass just because of their race/creed is. I have no problem calling a black person who kills someone evil. I have no problem with calling a Christian who lives a good life and helps the needy a great person. Race, color, creed, gender and political affiliation don't matter. Thoughts and actions do.

Nice try though.

Lol. Not quite. Blaming particular people for their actions and beliefs is not bigoted, no matter what their race/creed. Giving anyone a free pass just because of their race/creed is. I have no problem calling a black person who kills someone evil. I have no problem with calling a Christian who lives a good life and helps the needy a great person. Race, color, creed, gender and political affiliation don't matter. Thoughts and actions do.

Nice try though.

Hear hear.

While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html

and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/

Holy shit, why so defensive?

"while I don't have a problem with blacks in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These blacks in particular should be ashamed of themselves."

Gee, not so enlightened after all, are you. I've outed your bigotry.
What would be wrong with that sentence? Are we to believe that black people can't be ashamed of themselves? Again, why so defensive?

I've got to say, it's strange to see B0zzy going ultra-politically correct.

Yeah, so 1/3rd of Alabamians polled are frickin' morons - who cares one way or another?

*The Sound You hear is my opinion of christians falling to incredible new lows*

;)

To be fair, I imagine a simmilar percentage of Saudia Arabian Muslims believe the same thing (this is not a comment on all Muslims, just the ones who want to suppress all other religions but their own into illegality)

Only 1/3rd? Frankly, I'm surprised.

I don't believe it was, but still, I do wonder. I mean, think about it. First the tsunami, then Katrina, now the earthquake. What's next?

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Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.
Geez, they live in Alabamastan. What do you expect? Remember Fob James?

I don't believe it was, but still, I do wonder. I mean, think about it. First the tsunami, then Katrina, now the earthquake. What's next?

Don't forget the huge mudslide that buried an entire village.

My bet is either a volcano or a meteor strike is next. Or perhaps a famous politician is hit by lightning (has an vision of George Bush playing golf in the rain.)

"Now look at this dri-" WHABANG!..rumble...rumble.

Geez, they live in Alabamastan. What do you expect? Remember Fob James?

Who? :confused:

Who? :confused:
How little they know...

Fob James was the Democratic, then Republican governor of A'stan. He was a little over the edge when it came to promoting religion from his office. There were some charges about unethical conduct, as well. I don't remember how any of those played out.

Well, considering where "God's wrath" seems to disproportionately fall, I have a feeling that the 11th commandment "Thou shalt not live in trailer parks," was accidentally omitted from the Old Testament.

http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG/MGArticle/KRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785332905&path=!news!surveyusa!

Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.
I can tell you for a fact at least 1/3 of Alabamians are idiots.

http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG/MGArticle/KRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785332905&path=!news!surveyusa!

Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.

And yet Americans object to the "stupid" stereotype...

How little they know...

Fob James was the Democratic, then Republican governor of A'stan. He was a little over the edge when it came to promoting religion from his office. There were some charges about unethical conduct, as well. I don't remember how any of those played out.
Oh that is nothing, remember Roy Moore? He is running for governor of Alabama for the Republicans on the very grounds that he will be a religious extremist of the same class that caused him to be forcibly removed from the Alabama Supreme Court. If he gets into the main race and isn't defeated in a landslide, I am going to move to somewhere more rational, like Turkmenistan.

And yet Americans object to the "stupid" stereotype...

Yes, I do.

Yes, I do.

I know you do. That's why I said it. It wasn't trying to undermine my own credibility by accrediting inaccurate statements to myself.

Holy shit, why so defensive?.

Bigotry in all forms is reprehensible.


What would be wrong with that sentence? Are we to believe that black people can't be ashamed of themselves? Again, why so defensive?

If you don't know why that sentence is offensive then you have little real understanding of bigotry.

I'll give you a hint; "...while I don't have a problem with (ethnic, religions, gender or sexual preference group) in general..." is where the bigotry resides... You may as well say "Im not a bigot, I have a friend who is a (enter your stereotype here).

Go here to learn more;
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/


I've got to say, it's strange to see B0zzy going ultra-politically correct.

Ya? You can kiss my 'ultra PC' nether region if you think bigotries of any kind are acceptable.

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Guys, I think I'm losing my faith in humanity. [/CENTER]

Cheer up. 62% said it wasn't while 6% were unsure. So, on the bright side an overwhelming majority does not believe it was the "rath of God." There is still hope for humanity.

"Im not a bigot, I have a friend who is a (enter your stereotype here).

I've never understood why that is supposed to prove that one is a bigot (unless one actually uses an offensive term). Why is (for example) saying that one has black friends actually proof that one is racist?

I've never understood why that is supposed to prove that one is a bigot (unless one actually uses an offensive term). Why is (for example) saying that one has black friends actually proof that one is racist?

Go here to learn more;
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Well, considering where "God's wrath" seems to disproportionately fall, I have a feeling that the 11th commandment "Thou shalt not live in trailer parks," was accidentally omitted from the Old Testament.


OMFG That is sooo funny! Look at where I live and you can see why.

Go here to learn more;
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

That doesn't answer my question, and I can't be bothered to read some other website right now. Ok. Let's try a real-life example: I have a friend who is gay. There, by typing that, I've somehow proven that I'm a homophobe right? The fact that when he came out it didn't affect my friendship with him makes me a bigot?

That doesn't answer my question, and I can't be bothered to read some other website right now.

My, how presumptious of me. Sorry. You are right - I should endow you with all understanding of sensitivity and tolerance myself. it is my duty to do this for you. I should have understood how valueable your time is. I regret that I failed you. I humbly petition your forgiveness.

Please, give me more narrowly defined circumstances so I can provide more instant enlightenment. You learn so much more when I skip the lesson and just tell you the answers to the test... :rolleyes:

That doesn't answer my question, and I can't be bothered to read some other website right now. Ok. Let's try a real-life example: I have a friend who is gay. There, by typing that, I've somehow proven that I'm a homophobe right? The fact that when he came out it didn't affect my friendship with him makes me a bigot?

If you "can't be bothered to read some other web site right now" obviously you can't be bothered to educate yourself. You have no idea of what stereotypical behavior is and you don't want to learn. :headbang:

My, how presumptious of me. Sorry. You are right - I should endow you with all understanding of sensitivity and tolerance myself. it is my duty to do this for you. I should have understood how valueable your time is. I regret that I failed you. I humbly petition your forgiveness.

Please, give me more narrowly defined circumstances so I can provide more instant enlightenment.

If I wanted links to other websites, I'd use google. When I ask questions on the nationstates forum, I want to read the opinions of nationstates posters. I may have learned something if I looked at that website (assuming I didn't already know), but not the answer to my question. If I had infinite free time, I'd learn everything in the whole world, but I don't, so forgive me for having faith in humanity and expecting someone to actually help me get the particular piece of knowledge I wanted at the current time.

My, how presumptious of me. Sorry. You are right - I should endow you with all understanding of sensitivity and tolerance myself. it is my duty to do this for you. I should have understood how valueable your time is. I regret that I failed you. I humbly petition your forgiveness.

ROFLMAO :D

on the bright side an overwhelming majority does not believe it was the "rath of God." There is still hope for humanity.
Well, there is for two thirds of it, anyway. In Alabama.

If I wanted links to other websites, I'd use google. When I ask questions on the nationstates forum, I want to read the opinions of nationstates posters. I may have learned something if I looked at that website (assuming I didn't already know), but not the answer to my question. If I had infinite free time, I'd learn everything in the whole world, but I don't, so forgive me for having faith in humanity and expecting someone to actually help me get the particular piece of knowledge I wanted at the current time.

Sorry, I can't be bothered to give you the particular piece of knowledge you want at this current time... You know that I don't mind though; some of my best friends are just like you.

Sorry, I can't be bothered to give you the particular piece of knowldge you want at this current time...

Thankyou for being honest and to the point. Oh, and despite how rude you've been to me, I've figured out what is racist about the people in that website - because they say that "black people" like them they're saying that because some black people like them, that means that all black people like them. Classic prejudice, despite good intent. However, if I wrote "I have black friends", I wouldn't mean that "black people like me", I'd mean that I wouldn't let a difference in race prevent me from being friends with someone.

Bigotry in all forms is reprehensible.



If you don't know why that sentence is offensive then you have little real understanding of bigotry.

I'll give you a hint; "...while I don't have a problem with (ethnic, religions, gender or sexual preference group) in general..." is where the bigotry resides... You may as well say "Im not a bigot, I have a friend who is a (enter your stereotype here).

Go here to learn more;
http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/





Ya? You can kiss my 'ultra PC' nether region if you think bigotries of any kind are acceptable.

While I don't have a problem with people named Joseph, Joseph Stalin in particular was a bastard.

OMG, I hate all people named Joseph!

B0zzy, you're just trying to start a fight by making ridiculous leaps. If I has left out the "while I..." part, you would have jumped on me for stereotyping all Christians.

Hey, I'm not a murderer! Uh-oh, by B0zzy's logic, I just admitted that I'm a murderer.

Also, may I point out that since my post was about "God's Wrath" that kinda leaves atheists out of it, dontcha think?

While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html


and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/


Now, to use your 'enlightened' syntax;

"while I don't have a problem with blacks in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These blacks in particular should be ashamed of themselves."

Gee, not so enlightened after all, are you. I've outed your bigotry.

So what you're saying is that Blacks as a whole are less than half as crazy and stupid as Alabamans as a whole?

Plus, "Behold a Pale Horse" one of the biggest sources of the whole AIDS conspiracy theory was written by a white guy.

http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG/MGArticle/KRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785332905&path=!news!surveyusa!

Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.
I bet there is a fairly strong coralary between people who think it is gods wrath and the amount of "schoolin" they got
Thinking a p-value of ohh lets say - .08

While I don't have a problem with people named Joseph, Joseph Stalin in particular was a bastard.

OMG, I hate all people named Joseph!

B0zzy, you're just trying to start a fight by making ridiculous leaps. If I has left out the "while I..." part, you would have jumped on me for stereotyping all Christians.

Hey, I'm not a murderer! Uh-oh, by B0zzy's logic, I just admitted that I'm a murderer.

Also, may I point out that since my post was about "God's Wrath" that kinda leaves atheists out of it, dontcha think?

If you're so steeped in your bigotry that my simple quote threatens you so much then there is really no point in discussing it further with you.

If you're so steeped in your bigotry that my simple quote threatens you so much then there is really no point in discussing it further with you.

Sorry if deflating your arguments makes you so defensive.

I believe God said he wouldnt punish man again.
I guess he can change his mind.

I believe God said he wouldnt punish man again.
I guess he can change his mind.
He said he wouldn't kill everything with a flood. No promises about hurricanes that just hit one nation.

He said he wouldn't kill everything with a flood. No promises about hurricanes that just hit one nation.
Ok then.
I never said it was a bad thing but that asks the question were they the most perverted people?

Sorry if deflating your arguments makes you so defensive.

No arguments deflated - no defensive posts. Plenty of denial on your part - along with a complete reluctance to even consider your comments could be bigoted. Which is what makes them as funny as the 'blackpeopleloveus' site.

I thought wrath was one of the seven deadly sins :confused:

http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG/MGArticle/KRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031785332905&path=!news!surveyusa!

Now, while I don't have a problem with Christians in general, this kind of stuff sticks in my craw. These Christians in particular should be ashamed of themselves.

How big was that sample, when did they call if they called, if they did it on the computer, how many Alabamians actually know how to use one (just kidding), etc.?

I never trust polls. But anyone that did say yes to that poll is a dipshit.

No arguments deflated - no defensive posts. Plenty of denial on your part - along with a complete reluctance to even consider your comments could be bigoted. Which is what makes them as funny as the 'blackpeopleloveus' site.

No, you're just trying to redirect the argument because you can't stand the implications. Like I said, If I hadn't included the modifyer in question, you would have undoubtedly accused me of stereotyping all Christians...which is exactly why I included it. You're trying to deflect the argument in a rather unsubtle way, which is rather telling.

How big was that sample, when did they call if they called, if they did it on the computer, how many Alabamians actually know how to use one (just kidding), etc.?

I never trust polls. But anyone that did say yes to that poll is a dipshit.

There's a statement of methodology link on the poll.

So 1/3 will say that God's wrath created the hurricane, huh? And just how many will admit that they might have made God angry? 2%? 1%?

It's not God's wrath, though it certainly is humanity's fault. Global warming is certainly a product of humans.

People that answer "yes" to that survey make me want to smash my head against a wall, but that would reduce the total number of functioning brain cells in the average human, so I'll restrain myself this time.

Considering it's a poll of Alabama residents I'm actually relieved and encouraged that only about a third of them thought it was god's punishment.

Being as my Fathers people are from Alabama I agree.
This poll give me hope. They may have a long way to go but 15 years ago it would have been at least 40%.


Regards,

JMayo

No, you're just trying to redirect the argument because you can't stand the implications. Like I said, If I hadn't included the modifyer in question, you would have undoubtedly accused me of stereotyping all Christians...which is exactly why I included it. You're trying to deflect the argument in a rather unsubtle way, which is rather telling.

I could very well give a shit what the implications of this are. Try again.

The 'modifier' you used is no different than the 'modifier' used for any other bigoted statement. It is used in the following manner "I am not prejudiced, but..." followed by a prejudiced statement. The modifier, in spite of what you may hope, does not reduce the bigorty of the statement.

How big was that sample, when did they call if they called, if they did it on the computer, how many Alabamians actually know how to use one (just kidding), etc.?

I never trust polls. But anyone that did say yes to that poll is a dipshit.
" Asked of 500 Adults"
States right in the top

Also may want to look at their statement of methodology

How this poll was conducted: This SurveyUSA poll was conducted by telephone in the voice of a professional announcer. Respondent households were selected at random, using Random Digit Dialed (RDD) sample provided by Survey Sampling, of Fairfield CT. All respondents heard the questions asked identically.

With that sample size the variance is within an alpha of .05

I could very well give a shit what the implications of this are. Try again.

The 'modifier' you used is no different than the 'modifier' used for any other bigoted statement. It is used in the following manner "I am not prejudiced, but..." followed by a prejudiced statement. The modifier, in spite of what you may hope, does not reduce the bigorty of the statement.

I'm not going to be preached to by someone who thinks 15% represents an entire demographic. When I said "these Christians in particular," I meant those Christians in particular. There's no bigotry involved whatsoever. It's no different from saying, "Islam is a religion of peace, but the fundamentalists who are willing to blow themselves up to hurt us suck."

Umm, isn't that the same demographic which thinks AIDS was invented and spread by the government and OJ didn't do it?

See, here you're applying the actions of a small minority to the entirety of a group. THAT's bigotry. You are a shameless hypocrite and your attempts to parse my original statement in a nonsensical way is intellectually dishonest and pathetic. Now crawl back into your cave, punk, and let the grownups talk.

I'm not going to be preached to by someone who thinks 15% represents an entire demographic. When I said "these Christians in particular," I meant those Christians in particular. There's no bigotry involved whatsoever. It's no different from saying, "Islam is a religion of peace, but the fundamentalists who are willing to blow themselves up to hurt us suck."
Nobody is preaching, child. I only see you refusing to examine yourself and grasping firm hold of your denial. Justify it all you want, you only comfort yourself.


See, here you're applying the actions of a small minority to the entirety of a group. THAT's bigotry. You are a shameless hypocrite and your attempts to parse my original statement in a nonsensical way is intellectually dishonest and pathetic. Now crawl back into your cave, punk, and let the grownups talk.
Such hostility - typical of someone in denial. Attack me all you like for exposing you to yourself if it makes you feel good, but it does not remove your blemish.

As far as my statement - it could be modified to say a "statistically signifigant sample" and be more accurate (and less pithy), but the point would not be different; just because the sample population says so does not make them right - and there is nothing offensive about that. (Nor is there any reason for me to preface it with "I don't have a problem with...")

Believe me on this - I have far more first-hand experience confronting ethnic, religious and gender bigotry than you could imagine; You are out of your league. Now take to heart what I have suggested and re-examine your stereotypes, particularly of christians and 'southerers' (and possibly rural citizens). It may not be as apparent to you as to an outside observer, but you certainly have issues particular to these groups.

Oh, and I would suggest that in the future you not call me, or anyone else, an 'asshat' in any other threads. If you must mis-report statistics which I share, you could at least post links to the source so everyone can see for themselves the actual data. It will save you embarrasment in the future...

Nobody is preaching, child. I only see you refusing to examine yourself and grasping firm hold of your denial. Justify it all you want, you only comfort yourself.

What's to justify? You made an openly bigoted statement. I did not,


Such hostility - typical of someone in denial. Attack me all you like for exposing you to yourself if it makes you feel good, but it does not remove your blemish.

You started the attack. Then you follwed it up by an openly bigoted statement, which I exposed.

As far as my statement - it could be modified to say a "statistically signifigant sample" and be more accurate (and less pithy), but the point would not be different; just because the sample population says so does not make them right - and there is nothing offensive about that. (Nor is there any reason for me to preface it with "I don't have a problem with...")

I wasn't aware that 15% was a significant percentage...it's less than the number of people in America who think the Sun goes around the Earth, after all. And then you said blacks were a demographic that believes that the government created AIDS...when 85% of them apparently don't. If that's not bigoted, it's at least inaccurate.

Believe me on this - I have far more first-hand experience confronting ethnic, religious and gender bigotry than you could imagine; You are out of your league. Now take to heart what I have suggested and re-examine your stereotypes, particularly of christians and 'southerers' (and possibly rural citizens). It may not be as apparent to you as to an outside observer, but you certainly have issues particular to these groups.


How the hell do you know this? Do you know a goddam thing about me? No. As far as league goes, I have run circles around you, feller. Stop embarrassing yourself. As far as my views about Christians (which is my background, after all,) I never said anything against them in the post you took umbrage against. What is did say is I had a problem with those and only those that considered Katrina an act of divine retribution. Apparently you feel that lumping an entire people together is acceptible, while singling out certain specific people who have a certain specific belief (Katrina = God's wrath) not.

Oh, and I would suggest that in the future you not call me, or anyone else, an 'asshat' in any other threads. If you must mis-report statistics which I share, you could at least post links to the source so everyone can see for themselves the actual data. It will save you embarrasment in the future...

If the hat fits, wear it. Perhaps you should show the same restraint before hypocritically calling someone a bigot. Oh, and here's your first post sharing your statistics:

While you're at it, you should discuss the 15% of black people who feel that AIDS was created by the government as a form of genocide against black people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html


and even higher (35%-65%) among certain groups;
http://www.cnn.com/US/9511/aids_conspiracy/



followed by (in the Bush 2% thread)

Umm, isn't that the same demographic which thinks AIDS was invented and spread by the government and OJ didn't do it?

Ouch. It must hurt to get slapped down so hard.