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PS3 vs XBOX 360

OutpostCommand
11-10-2005, 19:07
Which will you be buying ?
Xbox 360 or PS3 ?
I will be buying a PS3.
The killzone trailer...mama mia...it was pure gold (In your face microsoft and whoever made halo !)
And there are rumours that the PS3 is so powerful its over 2x (overall) more powerful than the 360.
Is this true ?
I damn well hope it is.
Your opinions please...
Sierra BTHP
11-10-2005, 19:10
Pfizer Corp. announced today that VIAGRA will soon be available in liquid form and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of "cocktails," "highballs" and just a good old fashioned "stiff drink." Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: "MOUNT & DO."
OutpostCommand
11-10-2005, 19:12
Pfizer Corp. announced today that VIAGRA will soon be available in liquid form and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of "cocktails," "highballs" and just a good old fashioned "stiff drink." Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: "MOUNT & DO."
While that is positively hilarious I dont think you got the right thread.
Hehehehe...it gives a new meaning to soft drink...hehehehe
Sierra BTHP
11-10-2005, 19:12
While that is positively hilarious I dont think you got the right thread.
Hehehehe...it gives a new meaning to soft drink...hehehehe

Well, it's payback for your earlier hijacking.
Fieberbrunn
11-10-2005, 19:23
Nintendo Revolution.

It's the only next-gen offering so far that is giving us anything new and exciting.
OutpostCommand
11-10-2005, 19:25
But...why ?
Its got the least amount of teraflops, and generaly is very much unsuperior to both systems.
Jordaxia
11-10-2005, 19:31
If that's what you're concerned about, why even consider a console? PCs are the console superior. Nintendo, however, has ideas which, at the very least, are more original than the ps3 or the 360.

Out of the 2 offered, however, I say the 360. I have all 3 current consoles, and the ps2 is the only one that, despite consistent rentals, I have yet to find a genuinely great game for. In fact, they've all been distinctly lacklustre.
OutpostCommand
11-10-2005, 19:33
You see, while currently the PC has the best graphics,
1.PS3 has incredibe graphics far supeior to those of a PC
2.PC is very fiddly, with the keyboard and all those pharipherals
[NS]Simonist
11-10-2005, 19:41
Out of the 2 offered, however, I say the 360. I have all 3 current consoles, and the ps2 is the only one that, despite consistent rentals, I have yet to find a genuinely great game for. In fact, they've all been distinctly lacklustre.
I'm with this, I'd also go for the 360. But not just because XBox frequently has better games.....also, because I'm interested to see if it's actually "hackproof". I keep imagining that this "hackproof" system is going to take Joshua, oh say......sixteen hours to get through. And that's giving it some credit.

What's the point of ANY system if you're not going to hack it?
Jordaxia
11-10-2005, 19:42
You see, while currently the PC has the best graphics,
1.PS3 has incredibe graphics far supeior to those of a PC
2.PC is very fiddly, with the keyboard and all those pharipherals


Look at the new unreal engine. Either unreal engine 3 or 4.

for example, unreal engine 3. http://games.tiscali.cz/images/news/unrealengine3b.jpg

And the pc is not fiddly at all. Speakers, mouse, keyboard, plug, monitor, compared to, controller, plug, and aerial.

2 extra things.

Not to mention, mouse/keyboard is better than the joypad for virtually everything.
Avika
11-10-2005, 19:43
Out of all 3:
Nintendo Revolution
why?
new ideas. Also, there's the deal with the downloadable games from yesteryear. Not everyone has a working NES or SNES. Plus, many of the downloadable games are very hard to find. BTW who cares about tera-this or gigathat? Are all the games from this generation really that ugly? Why do we need to care about improved graphics? It's just more work for developers and more price for the consumer. Current-gen graphics are fine. Plus, while Microsoft and Sony like to give you poly-counts that are so high because every other factor, ranging from lighting and textures to actual gameplay, aren't counted, Nintendo gives us real-world poly-counts, which are what the poly-counts will acutally be. Stats are meaningless now.

out of the 2 choices:
360
why?
I believe that it will outlast PS3's. I mean, the PSone was hardly durable and the PS2 was even buggier.
Fieberbrunn
11-10-2005, 19:44
I don't even understand why the graphics are the most important thing for people. PS3 and 360, so far, just have the same old games we're used to, but with more polygons and hi-def. I'm tired of most games now as it is -- I want something innovative and different. After seeing Nintendo's success with the DS, I'm confident the Revolution will give us this innovation.
Cheese penguins
11-10-2005, 19:47
what i am going to say is the pc is very fiddly but you cannot beat teh combination of mouse and keyboard for certain games, especially fps (first person shooters) now the ps3 is more than twice the proccessing power of the xbox 360 as teh ps3 has 7 3.2ghz processors all working together whereas teh xbox 360 only has 12ghz overall as far as i know and well that throws my pc out the window and pisses me off as i just finished paying for this crap machine, now the pc still wins for graphics wise, but the xbox and ps3 both have decent cards in them and both offer 512mb + memory so it will really be a battle between teh consoles and the pc but i have to say if it wasnt for fps consoles would of won already, as proven by the xbox with only 700mhz there was kickass gaming that had never been dreamt possible, a xbox upgrade to 12ghz with better graphics and a ton of more memory scares the shit out of me and my computer, but then having a ps3 with even better kick ass specifications scares the living uber shit out of me, so i will say the pc gaming market will suffer as the pc platform will not be able to compete with the consoles uberness of power.
[NS]Olara
11-10-2005, 19:48
Seeing as how I'm 1) poor, 2) about to enter grad school, and 3) about to get married, I won't be buying any game system for a while. If I had the money, however, I'd buy a PS3. I have so much invested in PSone and PS2 games that it would be silly for me to switch and never be able to play those games again. Plus, I've also heard the rumors that PS3 will outclass the 360 graphic- and performance-wise.
Jordaxia
11-10-2005, 19:52
Before anyone goes and has a wet dream over the ps3 "processing capacity" it's a marketing gimmic, relying on peoples ignorance of technology to work.


It might have x many processors all running at x many ghz, but that's not representative of the actual speed. In fact, the real speed will not be faster than the up-to-date pc of the time.

To illustrate... using an unfortunately poor example. Take the last generation of processors, and the AMD/intel war. AMD released processors, that, whilst having a lower GHZ value, actually ran faster than their intel equivalent. I seem to recall the fact that my old 1.4ghz athlon ran at the equivalent of a 1.8ghz intel. Basically, this is the same, but to much more extreme degrees, for the ps3. it's got an absurd ghz value, but not the performance we associate with that value.
Cheese penguins
11-10-2005, 19:59
the latest procesor battle all came down to teh cache memory on the procesors and well amd have made more advancements than intel and therefore have made kick ass gaming processors in their time, now intel have focused on the cache for their laptops and now you can have a low 1.2 ghz centrino that outmatches the best 3.0+ghz celerons so then you think hmmm 7 processors they will be crap, but then you look closer and read that they all have 2mb cache to each one, so that is teh same as 7 centrino laptops of 1.2 ghz all running at 3.2 *drooooooools* so that is what say twice the ammount again so 14 laptops, then you add in the 256mb graphics card and the 50gb blu ray discs or whatever they called and you have a banging system.
Jordaxia
11-10-2005, 20:02
that would be prohibitively expensive..... there's clearly lying going on somewhere, or they'd have dominated the pc market already with their processors.


The fact remains is "overkill" even if they perform anywhere near their target... what the hell could need that level of processing? I've seen the graphics. Spangly and all, but not needing a supercomputer.
[NS]Simonist
11-10-2005, 20:03
the latest procesor battle all came down to teh cache memory on the procesors and well amd have made more advancements than intel and therefore have made kick ass gaming processors in their time, now intel have focused on the cache for their laptops and now you can have a low 1.2 ghz centrino that outmatches the best 3.0+ghz celerons so then you think hmmm 7 processors they will be crap, but then you look closer and read that they all have 2mb cache to each one, so that is teh same as 7 centrino laptops of 1.2 ghz all running at 3.2 *drooooooools* so that is what say twice the ammount again so 14 laptops, then you add in the 256mb graphics card and the 50gb blu ray discs or whatever they called and you have a banging system.
I'd respond to that, but my brain shuts down without punctuation....
Uber Awesome
11-10-2005, 20:06
Actually, I'll probably get a nintendo revolution, although that remote-control type control does make me worry that they've jumped the couch... still, I could just be irrationally hostile to the unusual design.
Cheese penguins
11-10-2005, 20:06
Simonist']I'd respond to that, but my brain shuts down without punctuation....
im sorry bout that but i am a kid............ but on another note yes whoever said that it is overkill is bloody well right, notice there never being lag on an xbox ith only 700mhz of proccessing power, makes you wonder what they are really planning on.
[NS]Simonist
11-10-2005, 20:11
im sorry bout that but i am a kid............ but on another note yes whoever said that it is overkill is bloody well right, notice there never being lag on an xbox ith only 700mhz of proccessing power, makes you wonder what they are really planning on.
Are you kidding, man? I get lag on my XBox every so often, but that's usually, like....when I'm.....okay, point taken. I need not spout further illegalities to see where I'm going wrong on this.....

I was just kidding about the grammar, dude. I'm an English major so of course mine is usually impeccable *shines Impeccable Grammar Trophy whilst self-padding the ego*
Egocenturia
11-10-2005, 20:26
First of all, the person who started the thread fails right off the bat for not mentioning the Nintendo Revolution. Get a clue, dude.

So, my vote goes to Nintendo. And its not just for new ideas. For one, it will have, by far, the largest starting library of all 3 systems, since you can download three generations worth of old, classic games (as mentioned before). Also, it'll be about $200-300 cheaper than the other systems. I believe the last I heard, PS3 was being priced about $600 dollars. I bought a new computer with monitor, speakers, and printer for less than that.

Plus, most developers will never make a game that uses all the "awesome processing power" the PS3 and 360 supposedly have. Programmers don't know how to make programs that will use all those processors, and they're not interested in learning anytime soon.

Finally: Being able to sword fight your friends with wireless controllers? Hell yes.
Cheese penguins
11-10-2005, 20:29
Simonist']Are you kidding, man? I get lag on my XBox every so often, but that's usually, like....when I'm.....okay, point taken. I need not spout further illegalities to see where I'm going wrong on this.....

I was just kidding about the grammar, dude. I'm an English major so of course mine is usually impeccable *shines Impeccable Grammar Trophy whilst self-padding the ego*
English major, *falls over at thought*, erm ok anyways , my point about the lag is well it dont happen, and to guy talking bout programmers there is a bloody easy way to make a processor run at max speed using all resources, it is called repitition of blank lines of code, just put say 100 lines of blank code, or code wiht say 8 digits on it then just set the program to repeat to infinity over those lines eats your procesing power like nothing else will
[NS]Simonist
11-10-2005, 20:33
Finally: Being able to sword fight your friends with wireless controllers? Hell yes.
Yeesh.....and here I can't imagine getting used to a control that feels and looks like my stereo remote..... :p
Avika
11-10-2005, 20:52
I don't see what the whole hooplah is about with all this technical mumbo jumbo. I think that comercial about the guy who wants to buy a tv sums it all up.

Guy: They have LCD tv, HDTV. If I don't get help, we'll end up with N-O tv.

Most people don't even know what a teraflop is. I doubt Sony can sell their expensive console to new gamers.

Sony: WE've got blu-ray discs.
consumer::confused:
Sony: It's got everything. Multi-core processors, radio-wave doopleborts, and blu-ray and HD-DVD support.
consumer: Ummm, what?
Sony: It's also got giga-this and mega-that.
consumer: Ummm, what do those do?
Sony: While the competition is still in the stone age fighting off sabretooth tigers and eating mammoths, we're up to date. You've got your LCD compasitors and uber-resistor doohickeys.
consumer: Are those tv shows or something?
Sony: It even has this confusing manual on installing internet hardware.
consumer: Oookkaaayyy....
Sony: It's also has giga-blahblahblah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
consumer: I'm scared.
Nintendo: Our console plays Mario games. It also plays old games. It's also cheap.
consumer: Sold!!!:D

Yep. Nothing scares away costumers like technical mumbo jumbo.
Aust
11-10-2005, 20:53
I don't see what the whole hooplah is about with all this technical mumbo jumbo. I think that comercial about the guy who wants to buy a tv sums it all up.

Guy: They have LCD tv, HDTV. If I don't get help, we'll end up with N-O tv.

Most people don't even know what a teraflop is. I doubt Sony can sell their expensive console to new gamers.

Sony: WE've got blu-ray discs.
consumer::confused:
Sony: It's got everything. Multi-core processors, radio-wave doopleborts, and blu-ray and HD-DVD support.
consumer: Ummm, what?
Sony: It's also got giga-this and mega-that.
consumer: Ummm, what do those do?
Sony: While the competition is still in the stone age fighting off sabretooth tigers and eating mammoths, we're up to date. You've got your LCD compasitors and uber-resistor doohickeys.
consumer: Are those tv shows or something?
Sony: It even has this confusing manual on installing internet hardware.
consumer: Oookkaaayyy....
Sony: It's also has giga-blahblahblah. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
consumer: I'm scared.
Nintendo: Our console plays Mario games. It also plays old games. It's also cheap.
consumer: Sold!!!:D

Yep. Nothing scares away costumers like technical mumbo jumbo.
*Goes by Ninty gear....* IT WORKS!!!
Guacamole eaters
11-10-2005, 21:11
After seeing Nintendo's success with the DS, I'm confident the Revolution will give us this innovation.

sorry, but the SONY PSP....has just enjoyed the most succesful release of any console in Britain...the publics behind sony..as am i most definitely, ill buy a PS3
Uber Awesome
11-10-2005, 21:15
sorry, but the SONY PSP....has just enjoyed the most succesful release of any console in Britain...the publics behind sony..as am i most definitely, ill buy a PS3

The public likes soap operas and reality TV. I'll pass on what they like.
Balipo
11-10-2005, 21:16
Which will you be buying ?
Xbox 360 or PS3 ?
I will be buying a PS3.
The killzone trailer...mama mia...it was pure gold (In your face microsoft and whoever made halo !)
And there are rumours that the PS3 is so powerful its over 2x (overall) more powerful than the 360.
Is this true ?
I damn well hope it is.
Your opinions please...

Halo is the ultimate game. When 3 is released for 360 in spring, I will have it. I saw the killzone trailer and in comparison...WEAK!! PS3 will still not have the graphics engine and capability to keep up with XBOX 360. And more than likely it Sony will just continually put out lame titles and crappy gameplay.
Greater Beatlemania
11-10-2005, 21:20
Revolution, because then I can finally play any of my old games.
Ravenshrike
11-10-2005, 21:30
that would be prohibitively expensive..... there's clearly lying going on somewhere, or they'd have dominated the pc market already with their processors.


The fact remains is "overkill" even if they perform anywhere near their target... what the hell could need that level of processing? I've seen the graphics. Spangly and all, but not needing a supercomputer.
They're not lying, but they aren't all GPU's. There's only one general processing unit in the PS3. As for which is better, we will have to wait and see. While a bunch of people have noted that the way the PS3 is setup is bound to cause game developers problems in programming, none of the people programming for the PS3 have complained, and in fact some have made comments that it's much much easier to program for than the PS2. That's because the PS2 was a POS with it's Emotion Engine, but still.
Ravenshrike
11-10-2005, 21:34
Halo is the ultimate game. When 3 is released for 360 in spring, I will have it. I saw the killzone trailer and in comparison...WEAK!! PS3 will still not have the graphics engine and capability to keep up with XBOX 360. And more than likely it Sony will just continually put out lame titles and crappy gameplay.
Um, riiiigght. The only difference between H1 and H2 was a slightly higher poly count and the ability to dual wield weapons. Given that M$ has been rushing Bungee on H3 so as to coincide it's release with the PS3, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and bet it will like it's predecessor's be less than spectacular.
Fieberbrunn
11-10-2005, 21:51
sorry, but the SONY PSP....has just enjoyed the most succesful release of any console in Britain...the publics behind sony..as am i most definitely, ill buy a PS3

Nearly every successive hardware release sets new records. The Dreamcast had one the largest launch days of all time in the USA -- where is it now though? Launch days do not mean anything -- look at current hardware and software sales of the DS versus the PSP in Japan. As for anecdotal evidence, I've had both DS and PSP since their launches. I play my DS nearly every day while commuting, yet I haven't touched my PSP since July. I go where the games are.

Regardless though, Nintendo isn't banking on everyone choosing one system or another. They'll let the hardcore kids buy a 360 or a PS3...and expect that many of these same kids will also buy a Revolution as a second system. I think this is very likely to happen -- when Zelda is released for the Rev, you gotta believe it'll sell millions of copies.

But Nintendo also expects that the Rev will be bought by many first time gamers or exgamers as their only system -- its simplicity, excellent classic library and price will ensure this.
Aldranin
11-10-2005, 21:55
PS3, probably. Better graphics, more powerful machine, better games, more games, Final Fantasy VII sequels. Almost everything good comes out for PS and Xbox. Nintendo is dying. The only thing I'll miss if I go for PS3 over Xbox 360 is Halo 3, but I don't think it will be better than any sequels that may be coming out for FFVII, or that much better than any sequels that come out for Socom, for that matter. Xbox peaked with Conker: Live and Reloaded, I bought that, whenever I consider playing, renting or buying a multiplayer Xbox game I always play that instead, so I think I'm done with Xbox in general. Aside from the Halo series, what ever came out on Xbox that was really fantastic?
Egocenturia
11-10-2005, 22:15
Halo is the ultimate game. When 3 is released for 360 in spring, I will have it. I saw the killzone trailer and in comparison...WEAK!! PS3 will still not have the graphics engine and capability to keep up with XBOX 360. And more than likely it Sony will just continually put out lame titles and crappy gameplay.
Oh, man, don't be like that. Now I have to laugh at you for being a closed minded Halo freak. Trust me, if I were to buy an Xbox 360 for any reason, it would be for Perfect Dark Zero (damn you Nintendo, selling the greatest console developer ever to your biggest competitor...).

But I'm not going to buy one. Because I already have Half Life and Half Life 2 on my computer. That gives me 2 games that completely beat the crap out of Halo, but also a never ending stream of free mods to play.
Avika
11-10-2005, 22:28
Revolution.:p :D Do any of you really know what a teraflop is? Why do we care what the max. polycount is when we'll never see it without the whole wire-frame game issues? While Sony and Microsoft are both getting more complex, Nintendo isn't scaring away potential buyers. TRust me when I say that simple>complex. Why do you think games like Halo and Zelda sell better than complex rpg's? Because, in Halo, you shoot aliens. Sure, you could go deeper into the conflict, but the plot is:Man in metal armor shoots aliens. Zelda is also simple. Push anolog stick to move. Push B to use sword. Push A to do something. L/Z lock-on, depending on system. R-shield. C/X-Y-Z items. Elf dressed up as Peter Pan likes to stab things with sword. Along the way, he saves day. No need for complex stat changes or menu of menus for menus. Not too complex. Gamers don't like confusion.
Hortos
11-10-2005, 22:41
PS3.
The XBox was just a piece of over rated tat. I see the "360" being no different.
Anarchic Christians
11-10-2005, 22:42
I know what a teraflop is. It's a measure of how many calculations a machine can make per second. Something like that.

I'm going for Nintendo first because, when you get down to it they have a fantastic back catalogue and some of the best minds in gaming on board (Miyamoto and Anouma, plus they've got guys like Mikami from Capcom interested, hope I got the right names there...)

Then probably PS3 as I enjoy 'Japanese' style RPG games and Metal Gear Solid.
Swilatia
11-10-2005, 22:43
Screw the Consoles! PC gaming is better!
Valosia
11-10-2005, 22:56
Xbox Live rules. Playstation has a horrible network.

Playstation sounds like the name of a gay bar.

That is all.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 13:07
Xbox Live rules. Playstation has a horrible network.

Playstation sounds like the name of a gay bar.

That is all.
Same for xbox.
PS has a good network.
Its complicted to set it up, but once you do, its fantastic.
My conclusion is that new gamers will go for revolution, but hardcore gamers will go for PS3.
Xbox 360 ? (I quote from that japanese guy (Ken kutarago ?))
" Its more of a Xbox 1.5 "
Pure Metal
12-10-2005, 13:39
playstation: populist, overhyped nonsense for casual gamers

i'm getting the x360 and i don't give a shit what anybody else thinks or says.
Crabcake Baba Ganoush
12-10-2005, 13:49
Probably a PS3. But I wont get one until my PS2 finally decides to crap out. My MagGuyvering skills have kept it working this long but now it's starting to sound like a Dreamcast when it's loading stuff. And when you're playing a game like GTA San Andreas, which is basically in a constant state of loading, it makes that sound a lot.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 13:52
Casual gamers ? Casual gamers ?
Ive been playing since the atari and commadore days, and I prefer the PS series.
If anyones over hyped, then its the Xbox.
Take the MTV Xbox 360 unvieling for example.
Xbox brought in celebrites to try to convince people, and overall used pretty much every business trick and con in the book.
But Sony on the other hand, didnt bring cheap arse celebrites, but just came with their all-so-powerful console and a few demos.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Balipo
12-10-2005, 13:56
Um, riiiigght. The only difference between H1 and H2 was a slightly higher poly count and the ability to dual wield weapons. Given that M$ has been rushing Bungee on H3 so as to coincide it's release with the PS3, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and bet it will like it's predecessor's be less than spectacular.

Even at less than spectacular, it is better than most PS2 and likely most PS3 games. Any system that is pushing the release of Big Mother Truckers 3 as part of their roll out deserves to suffer in sales and not be bought.
Balipo
12-10-2005, 14:01
Oh, man, don't be like that. Now I have to laugh at you for being a closed minded Halo freak. Trust me, if I were to buy an Xbox 360 for any reason, it would be for Perfect Dark Zero (damn you Nintendo, selling the greatest console developer ever to your biggest competitor...).

But I'm not going to buy one. Because I already have Half Life and Half Life 2 on my computer. That gives me 2 games that completely beat the crap out of Halo, but also a never ending stream of free mods to play.

I can't argue with Half-Life vs. Halo, Half-Life wins. But Valve is also working on a version for the XBox 360 after successfully transferring Counter-Strike over. Now that they have the method, they can bring up Valve sales by making online versions for 360. I still haven't met too many players of PS2 (and potentially PS3) online gamers.

From an online gamer point of view, the 360 is likely to be better than the PS3 if only because XBOX's network is worldwide vs. the regional PS2 network.
Sick Nightmares
12-10-2005, 14:01
playstation: populist, overhyped nonsense for casual gamers

i'm getting the x360 and i don't give a shit what anybody else thinks or says.
X-Box: Elitist piece of cultist crap. Ussually owned by the same type that likes to call people "sheep" because they buy into the "Sony Propaganda". Kinda sad, all they ever talk about is Halo, likes its a great game. You want a great game? Can anyone say "SYPHON FILTER"? KillZone is gonna own Halo. I'll put money on it!

BTW HERES THE KILLZONE TRAILER (http://media.ps2.gamespy.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html)
Colodia
12-10-2005, 14:44
PS3.

Microsoft pissed me off when they revealed the $399 price tag for the X360.

And don't tell me about the $299 one, because we all know how useless that is compared to the $399 one. It doesn't have anything Microsoft has been trying to sell me this summer.

PS3, however, will be marketed to the average gamer. Gotta go with the rest of the core market!

I'm so conformist I'm a non-non-conformist. So ha.
Rabbitude
12-10-2005, 15:01
I miss my hanimex:(
Jordaxia
12-10-2005, 15:13
playstation: populist, overhyped nonsense for casual gamers

i'm getting the x360 and i don't give a shit what anybody else thinks or says.


yay! Much agreements. There's no games that left me breathless, like KOTOR, or half life 2, or games that really tried something new, like legend of zelda, mario sunshine, or pikmin, or smash bros melee (of course smash bros for the N64 was the real new idea, but it was best in melee) - games that I just found supremely fun, and still go back to.


As such, the ps3 doesn't really appeal to me. Graphics do not a great game make.
Pacificaenia
12-10-2005, 15:34
Probably PS3. I'm interested in too many Sony console-only franchises not too. I don't really care much for the X-box, and don't own one, or anything for one. As for handhelds... I'm okay with my GBA for now. For me, PC gaming is pretty much restricted to RTSesnd TBSes, as my grahpics card is only a Radeon x300.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 19:16
X-Box: Elitist piece of cultist crap. Ussually owned by the same type that likes to call people "sheep" because they buy into the "Sony Propaganda". Kinda sad, all they ever talk about is Halo, likes its a great game. You want a great game? Can anyone say "SYPHON FILTER"? KillZone is gonna own Halo. I'll put money on it!

BTW HERES THE KILLZONE TRAILER (http://media.ps2.gamespy.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html)

Thats the spirit !
Halo ? Good grief, its like a interative cartoon.
Everythings so shiny and colourful.
War isnt colourful !
As for the 'Halo pistol'. what the hell is that ?
How can a pistol be more powerful than a autorifle.
What a load of unbalanced gibberish.
Killzone, at atleast 45 occasions I felt like a real soldier when playing it.
Pure Metal
12-10-2005, 19:48
X-Box: Elitist piece of cultist crap. Ussually owned by the same type that likes to call people "sheep" because they buy into the "Sony Propaganda". Kinda sad, all they ever talk about is Halo, likes its a great game. You want a great game? Can anyone say "SYPHON FILTER"? KillZone is gonna own Halo. I'll put money on it!

BTW HERES THE KILLZONE TRAILER (http://media.ps2.gamespy.com/media/748/748475/vids_1.html)
*sigh*

yes it has good graphics, but so did halo in its day. and so did half life 2, and countless other games. FPS is practically a dead genre imho, and i am not buying an x360 just (or very much at all) for halo3

and i think you'll find its sony who's elitist/cultist, just more people buy into it (=populist) thanks to their (yes you guessed it) propoganda machine. reminds me of..... hmm.... Apple!
playstation is like the apple of the computer game market imo

and don't get me started on apple. i fuckin' hate apple :mad:





not that i give a shit what you or anyone else thinks anyway, cos whatever you say i'm getting a x360, and you can suck it if you don't like it ;)
Potaria
12-10-2005, 19:50
Screw Sony and Microsoft, I'm getting a Revolution.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 20:15
*sigh*

yes it has good graphics, but so did halo in its day. and so did half life 2, and countless other games. FPS is practically a dead genre imho, and i am not buying an x360 just (or very much at all) for halo3

and i think you'll find its sony who's elitist/cultist, just more people buy into it (=populist) thanks to their (yes you guessed it) propoganda machine. reminds me of..... hmm.... Apple!
playstation is like the apple of the computer game market imo

and don't get me started on apple. i fuckin' hate apple :mad:





not that i give a shit what you or anyone else thinks anyway, cos whatever you say i'm getting a x360, and you can suck it if you don't like it ;)
Hmmm ?
Well, I own a apple computer, and it is much better than a windows.
(My opinion)
Apple - the most stylish computers availible on the market.
FPS is practically dead ?!
What planet are you on ?!
Maybe on Xbox there arnt any good FPS, but on PS2 FPS are in their golden age.
East Coast Federation
12-10-2005, 20:54
I'll be going with Nintendo, neither Sony nor Microsoft has offered me anything new. Nintendo has.

I will get a 360 though, mainly because it has some games I like.

And has the best new racing gamse IMO, XBOX had Forza, which is just amazing.
Egocenturia
12-10-2005, 21:12
playstation: populist, overhyped nonsense for casual gamers

i'm getting the x360 and i don't give a shit what anybody else thinks or says.
Funny...that top line sounds exactly like the Xbox and the Xbox 360.

Casual gamers? You mean people who love FPS, but don't have enough skills to set up and maintain a real gaming computer? Not saying that Xbox owners are stupid, but if you're going to cite ownership of an Xbox as proof of your amazing gamers status, you've got no idea what you're talking about.

Case in point: An unheard of Half Life mod known as The Specialists. Very small community, but they make some crazy stuff. All the files are open, so you can actually screw around with the .mdl files. I've actually ripped apart a few myself, and I've gotten some sweet results. Let's see your Xbox do that.
The Helghan Empire
12-10-2005, 21:29
Which will you be buying ?
Xbox 360 or PS3 ?
I will be buying a PS3.
The killzone trailer...mama mia...it was pure gold (In your face microsoft and whoever made halo !)
And there are rumours that the PS3 is so powerful its over 2x (overall) more powerful than the 360.
Is this true ?
I damn well hope it is.
Your opinions please...
OOC: hey buddy :)

IC:
My thoughts are going to the 360. YAY Microsoft!
But I will be buying a 360 and a PS3 (even I don't win this Rattlebrain contest). The Killzone 2 video got me watching it again and again, but I knew it was fake, even D. Jaffe (creator of God of War) said it was on television at G-Phoria. :(
I think the 360 is better, but I'll get a PS3 (ONLY for KILLZONE 2, even it doesn't live up to the trailer, and I'm gonna get KILLZONE to run on it.) ;)
The Helghan Empire
12-10-2005, 21:33
Thats the spirit !
Halo ? Good grief, its like a interative cartoon.
Everythings so shiny and colourful.
War isnt colourful !
As for the 'Halo pistol'. what the hell is that ?
How can a pistol be more powerful than a autorifle.
What a load of unbalanced gibberish.
Killzone, at atleast 45 occasions I felt like a real soldier when playing it.
Well, I think Halo is still a great game. But I think Killzone is too, definetly! But I find it kind of insulting to me that you would say such a thing about Halo (even if you are my best friend on NS, but I forgive you since Killzone is a bit more realistic ;) )

EDIT: DAMN!! Sorry for double posting.
Valosia
12-10-2005, 21:50
Maybe Sony will still hold the market in the "least reliable system" category.

When I worked at EBGames, for every 'Box and 'Cube that was returned we got 10 PS2s. I once sold 3 new ones in a row to a guy and had each of them returned because all three were defective (manufacturing errors). Some of them may have survived a while, but I put an average lifespan of about 2.5 years on the PS2 from the number of returns over the course of a few years. Not good enough.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 22:04
Well, I think Halo is still a great game. But I think Killzone is too, definetly! But I find it kind of insulting to me that you would say such a thing about Halo (even if you are my best friend on NS, but I forgive you since Killzone is a bit more realistic ;) )

EDIT: DAMN!! Sorry for double posting.
Hello.
Sorry, its just I get a bit extreme when cornered.
Im one of those loyalist nutters.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 22:07
Maybe Sony will still hold the market in the "least reliable system" category.

When I worked at EBGames, for every 'Box and 'Cube that was returned we got 10 PS2s. I once sold 3 new ones in a row to a guy and had each of them returned because all three were defective (manufacturing errors). Some of them may have survived a while, but I put an average lifespan of about 2.5 years on the PS2 from the number of returns over the course of a few years. Not good enough.
Hmmm ?
Well, my PS2 has just about...pfff....clocked 5 years now.
The first batch were quite reliable, but I noticed the second broke down often.
The Helghan Empire
12-10-2005, 22:11
Hello.
Sorry, its just I get a bit extreme when cornered.
Im one of those loyalist nutters.
Oh shut up you*.;)
I'm fine with that, I get the same thing when in your situation.


*: I would never say that to you in a mean way (why I'd slam my head into a wall if I did that). I'd only say that to you in friendly responses. :)
Fieberbrunn
12-10-2005, 22:16
Hmmm ?
Well, my PS2 has just about...pfff....clocked 5 years now.
The first batch were quite reliable, but I noticed the second broke down often.

First first PS2 (got it on launch day) stopped playing PS2 games about two years into it life (though it still played DVDs and PS1 games).

After about two years, my first PS1 would only work if you stood it on its side or upside down.

Sony really can't make quality manufactured, rugged products. Not like Nintendo at least, which take beatings but keep on trucking. I've still got a launch day NES from 85 and it works like a champ.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 22:18
First first PS2 (got it on launch day) stopped playing PS2 games about two years into it life (though it still played DVDs and PS1 games).

After about two years, my first PS1 would only work if you stood it on its side or upside down.

Sony really can't make quality manufactured, rugged products. Not like Nintendo at least, which take beatings but keep on trucking. I've still got a launch day NES from 85 and it works like a champ.
*Scratches head*
Oh...thats rather strange...
Both my PS1 and PS2 didnt break down.
Ill ask around (Not on NS)
The Helghan Empire
12-10-2005, 22:23
I watch Xplay, such a funny videogame show, and they did a test on wich console is stronger by destroying them in a round, turning them on, seeing if they worked, if they didn't, then they don't go into the next round and they repeat the proccess over until they see wich console can take more damage and still work.

Here's in order of wich can be easily destroyed and wich can't (ranked from weakest to strongest):
Playstation 2
Xbox
Gamecube

(so the GC can take more of a beating)
East Coast Federation
12-10-2005, 22:24
Nintendo makes the most durable products, By far.

Ever see on G4 tech TV where they threw a Gamecube off a 5 story building? And it still worked?
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 22:27
Ok....Ok...
If I say that the PS2 is more durable than a GC under physical strain, then ill be flogging a dead horse, but I will say that the PS2 is durable overall.
Well, mine is anyway...
Who knows, maybe the PS3 will be hard as rock.
The Helghan Empire
12-10-2005, 22:41
Ok....Ok...
If I say that the PS2 is more durable than a GC under physical strain, then ill be flogging a dead horse, but I will say that the PS2 is durable overall.
Well, mine is anyway...
Who knows, maybe the PS3 will be hard as rock.
Well we won't know until Xplay does it to the new consoles. All the next-gen consoles are practically the same size and width.
Fieberbrunn
12-10-2005, 22:41
Yeah, I hope the PS3 will be built better...hopefully the Spiderman font will make it stronger.

I think the best comparison of ruggedness comes from the PSP and DS. The PSP is sleek and sexy, but I'm deathly afraid I'll hurt it, so I have it enclosed in a logitech case.

My DS, though, looks good, but nearly as cool and hi-tech -- but I can close it up, stick it in my pocket or bag and not worry about it getting hurt. I believe this is a very important attribute of a portable system.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 22:47
Yeah, I hope the PS3 will be built better...hopefully the Spiderman font will make it stronger.

I think the best comparison of ruggedness comes from the PSP and DS. The PSP is sleek and sexy, but I'm deathly afraid I'll hurt it, so I have it enclosed in a logitech case.

My DS, though, looks good, but nearly as cool and hi-tech -- but I can close it up, stick it in my pocket or bag and not worry about it getting hurt. I believe this is a very important attribute of a portable system.
That is true.
I view my PSP as one of my most precious possesions.
Look is one of the reasons.
But, I think its the same for every object that isnt attached to you.
Spurland
12-10-2005, 23:02
Any idea wether the new GTA on XBox or the PS?
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 23:06
Which one ?
A next Gen version, or San Andreas ?
Spurland
12-10-2005, 23:07
The next gen one/ Someone told me that their contract with PS ran out with San Andreas.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 23:17
The next gen one/ Someone told me that their contract with PS ran out with San Andreas.
Well, OPS2 doesnt confirm this, so I would presume I is a rumour sparked by Xbox fanboys and suggest you dont belive it.
They never had a contract (To my knowledge), and its been confirmed from a high ranker at ROCKSTAR that they intend to produce next-gen games.
ROCKSTAR has always produced games for the PS, so I doubt they will halt.
Spurland
12-10-2005, 23:25
Humm.. Ah well.. Waiting a few more weeks for the review of teh Xbox360 before i make my mind up.
OutpostCommand
12-10-2005, 23:35
Its a strange feeling when I imagine to myself that the next generation is almost here.
I mean...yeah, I always was excited about PS3, but to me it was always a distant dream*.
Now...its so...close.
I can almost smell the Teraflops.
*Dont get me wrong, its a good thing were going next gen.
Mattsugame
12-10-2005, 23:44
I don't feel like wasting my money on a new console again, I'm sticking to PC gaming from now on, I can at least play them forever on the same machine.
East Coast Federation
14-10-2005, 04:25
Power doesnt really mean anything, at all.

Some NES and SNES games are still better than uber graphics games.

Super Mario World 3 is an example of this. Alot of people consider it one of the greatest games ever. And the system only runs a 3mzh processor.

I think the XBOX 360 will do the best this gen.