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Anyone else here getting tired of the worn out WW2 video games? I mean you can only kill so many nazis....gah....

Not me. I love war! (In video games and real life).

~Satanic Reverend Medivh~

Why do you play WW2 games if your tired of them? This whole topic is rather pointless.

Why don't they make a WWII game... where you're Japanese... or a German... killing... Allies! Brilliant! Or even better, an Ethiopian soldier fighting the Italians!

Well, they could make a "Desert Storm" or "Iraqi Freedom" war game, but it would be over after the first level, so that would just be boring.

I'm actually quite surprised that the PC brigade haven't jumped all over the WW2 FPS genre and demanded that a game be made where you don't shoot Nazis.

Although, I'm intruiged by the idea of being Ethiopian and fighting Italians.

I'm actually quite surprised that the PC brigade haven't jumped all over the WW2 FPS genre and demanded that a game be made where you don't shoot Nazis.

Although, I'm intruiged by the idea of being Ethiopian and fighting Italians.

Hearts of Iron (either one, but no. 2 is better, obviously).

It's a strategy game, but you can be any country that existed from 1936-1948. Even Haiti.

Hearts of Iron (either one, but no. 2 is better, obviously).

It's a strategy game, but you can be any country that existed from 1936-1948. Even Haiti.

Yeah I bought HoI 2 and it is awesome! The chance to kick some Allied butt is much apprieciated :D Although i've not actually heard of some of the countries on it lol!

Hearts of Iron (either one, but no. 2 is better, obviously).

It's a strategy game, but you can be any country that existed from 1936-1948. Even Haiti.

Or Tannu Tova (sp?). I love that game... Wish I had someone to play multiplayer with though...

Well, they could make a "Desert Storm" or "Iraqi Freedom" war game, but it would be over after the first level, so that would just be boring.

They did make such games. Lousy games most of them.

Yeah I bought HoI 2 and it is awesome! The chance to kick some Allied butt is much apprieciated :D Although i've not actually heard of some of the countries on it lol!

I always found keeping the USSR out of the war until about 1943 (if possible), then going on a rampage against everyone else was fun. (tip: the US AI usually doesn't defend home provinces well enough to stave off a 12 division attack by marines, and you can take masses of industry in a short time) :D

Or Tannu Tova (sp?). I love that game... Wish I had someone to play multiplayer with though...

I've played it over network (and it is awesome), but I can't get them working over the internet with my router. :(

Anyone else here getting tired of the worn out WW2 video games? I mean you can only kill so many nazis....gah....
Well they are one of the few 'acceptable' enemies that people don't get mad if they die in games. Like PCgamer said, 'It's okay to shoot Terrorists, Nazis, Aliens, and Boybands in games because they're bad.'

Yeah, they should start making WWIII games...

Hearts of Iron (either one, but no. 2 is better, obviously).

It's a strategy game, but you can be any country that existed from 1936-1948. Even Haiti.

Cool. Sounds a bit like Europa Universalis, but in the 20th century.

EU2 kicks ass. Ah to humble the Ottoman Empire as Bosnia. **Fond reminiscing of when my games collection wasn't 400 miles away**

Yeah, they should start making WWIII games...

First we have to have a WW3, silly.

First we have to have a WW3, silly.

That was the joke, silly. :p

Cool. Sounds a bit like Europa Universalis, but in the 20th century.

EU2 kicks ass. Ah to humble the Ottoman Empire as Bosnia. **Fond reminiscing of when my games collection wasn't 400 miles away**

That's exactly what it's like.

That was the joke, silly. :p

There's plenty of games based upon a hypothetical/alternate history WW3, though.

People's General, Operation Flashpoint, etc....

I would like to see a Korean War RTS...

That was the joke, silly. :p

Yeah, when you called me silly, you more or less hit the nail on the head.

That's exactly what it's like.

How old is HoI2? I'm wondering if my dillapidated piece of crap will be likely to run it.

How old is HoI2? I'm wondering if my dillapidated piece of crap will be likely to run it.

Ummm...A year or so?

You'd probably need at least a 1ghz processor with 512mb RAM.

The first HOI is still good in the meantime, though. (Just don't forget to patch it :p)

There's plenty of games based upon a hypothetical/alternate history WW3, though.

People's General, Operation Flashpoint, etc....

I know, but for reasons of convenience I chose to ignore that.

Anyways, here's looking forward to Fallout 3!

Yeah, when you called me silly, you more or less hit the nail on the head.

Good to see you're not taking it personal.

Why don't they make a WWII game... where you're Japanese... or a German... killing... Allies! Brilliant! Or even better, an Ethiopian soldier fighting the Italians!
Actually, I totally agree with you! Impaling Italian soldiers armed with sub-machine guns on spears in my semi-nakedness would be very...fun. :D

Hey they beat Pacman :)

Personally, I prefer near future (within 5 years) FPSes over historical ones. Although, a WWI FPS would be nice for a bit of a change.

Personally, I prefer near future (within 5 years) FPSes over historical ones. Although, a WWI FPS would be nice for a bit of a change.

Ugh...

*run towards trench*

*get shotup by machinegun*

*reload saved game, and repeat ad nauseam*

*finally succeed, and try and hold opposing trench*

*fail miserably, and have to retreat*

*get shotup by machinegun*

*reload saved game, and repeat ad nauseam*


No thanks.

A WWI FPS would be boring as hell. On one level, you sit in a trench, and waste waves of enemy infantry as they charge your position.

On another, you get wasted as you charge tward the enemy trenches.


C'est Barbont.

A WWI game where you command a battalion in 3rd person, but could switch to 1st person at will would be best.. I used to have a game like that, but I forgot which it was.. I think it was a Civil War game..

I've been toying with the idea of an alternate WWII scenario where the CSA gained independence in the Civil War and joins the Axis... That ought to make it a bit more interesting...

A WWI FPS would be boring as hell. On one level, you sit in a trench, and waste waves of enemy infantry as they charge your position.

On another, you get wasted as you charge tward the enemy trenches.


C'est Barbont.

The first part would be fun for about 10-15 minutes, though.

Well, they could make a "Desert Storm" or "Iraqi Freedom" war game, but it would be over after the first level, so that would just be boring.
Not if they let you be an insurgent. Though of course a suicide bomber game would probably be over fairly quickly.

Not if they let you be an insurgent. Though of course a suicide bomber game would probably be over fairly quickly.

There actually is one where you play a Palestinian...

It's called Under Ash.

http://www.4gamer.net/weekly/kaito/008/img/under.jpg

I have been HOOKED on WWII Online for about the past month. If you haven't hear of it, it is VERY different from all other FPSs. The map is a 1/2 scale model of Europe. What that means is that if you spawn 2 kilometers from the front line, then it REALLY takes as long as it would take to travel a full kilometer. There are no crosshairs, only the iron sights on your gun... and you have to sight it for different ranges. Sometimes you can play as long as an hour or two and not get a kill. And since there is one map with everyone playing, it takes about a month or two for one side or the other to win the entire thing.

It is a game of patience where squad tactics play a larger part than any other video game on the market.

The graphics aren't as good as most of the games out there, but if you are into intense gameplay, it rocks.

check it out: http://www.wwiionline.com
my squad: http://www.333rd.org

- burn

As to a WW1 FPS it could be interesting, you would have to find just the right senario and battle to make it interesting, not all of the abttles were staight trench warfare events (which would make the omaha mission from MOHAA look easy).

i suppose even in the trnechs you could have some more interesting roles like stretcher bearers, snipers etc to play around with. Or we could just play battlefeild 1918.


As for WW2 FPS perhaps one based around the commonwealth/british forces in the far east instead of just the usual americans vs japanese

As to a WW1 FPS it could be interesting, you would have to find just the right senario and battle to make it interesting, not all of the abttles were staight trench warfare events (which would make the omaha mission from MOHAA look easy).

i suppose even in the trnechs you could have some more interesting roles like stretcher bearers, snipers etc to play around with. Or we could just play battlefeild 1918.

Stretcher bearer would be fun, but it'd be more of a novelty than anything and wouldn't really last.

That MOHAA mission is actually the perfect example on why a game like that wouldn't be so good...that particular mission relied extremely heavily on scripting. Each mission would have a certain "way" to beat it...otherwise it would be frustratingly random. Unfortunately, there aren't many other options for different types of battle, either...they pretty much all involve being shot to pieces as a grunt.

As for WW2 FPS perhaps one based around the commonwealth/british forces in the far east instead of just the usual americans vs japanese

That might be interesting...we fought more or less on our own in New Guinea for about a year, so...

That being said, I'm really over WW2 FPS games. Short of having a realistic one a la Operation Flashpoint, there's not really many other places the subgenre can go.

I've been toying with the idea of an alternate WWII scenario where the CSA gained independence in the Civil War and joins the Axis... That ought to make it a bit more interesting...

Wouldn't they be allied with Britain? After all it would be either France or Britain that recognized the Confederate States of America.

Stretcher bearer would be fun, but it'd be more of a novelty than anything and wouldn't really last.

That MOHAA mission is actually the perfect example on why a game like that wouldn't be so good...that particular mission relied extremely heavily on scripting. Each mission would have a certain "way" to beat it...otherwise it would be frustratingly random. Unfortunately, there aren't many other options for different types of battle, either...they pretty much all involve being shot to pieces as a grunt.Actually, Verdun would be quite interesting. There were plenty of bunkers and redoubts there and it came to endless amounts of close combat in the individual fortifications.
That might be interesting...we fought more or less on our own in New Guinea for about a year, so...

That being said, I'm really over WW2 FPS games. Short of having a realistic one a la Operation Flashpoint, there's not really many other places the subgenre can go.Ever played Hidden and Dangerous?

Wouldn't they be allied with Britain? After all it would be either France or Britain that recognized the Confederate States of America.I worked out a history for it too. Britain and the CSA get into a fight about slavery (consider that the British frowned upon that and freed many during the revolutionary war). The "king cotton" is basically what kept them allied after independence, and that ends with British dominion of Egypt and India. That bankrupts the South and they end up hating the British and stay neutral during WWI.
Basically a story of what could, not necessarily would, have happened.

Actually, Verdun would be quite interesting. There were plenty of bunkers and redoubts there and it came to endless amounts of close combat in the individual fortifications.

Fair point, but could you build a whole game around it? Some bayonet-wielding close combat would be fun, though.

The only other things I can think of are cavalry on the Eastern Front (EDIT- which might be a better idea during the Napoleonic era...); or perhaps inside one of those tin-can tanks. :p

Ever played Hidden and Dangerous?

Yeah, but it was so buggy (even after patching), that I could never get past the fourth level or so.

A real shame, because it was fun...

Fair point, but could you build a whole game around it? Some bayonet-wielding close combat would be fun, though.

The only other things I can think of are cavalry on the Eastern Front (EDIT- which might be a better idea during the Napoleonic era...); or perhaps inside one of those tin-can tanks. :pBattlefield 1918 would probably be the most viable option. While a lot of the maps would look the same, the whole trench thing would probably be really "atmospheric". Add a bit of random artillery fire...:D

Yeah, but it was so buggy (even after patching), that I could never get past the fourth level or so.

A real shame, because it was fun...The second one has two missions in Burma. They were quite creepy. The first one was in a MG bunker infested jungle with limited sight due to thick green fog and the other consisted of storming a fortified hill alongside a tank and a bunch of infantry in high grass and entering the tunnel system to clear it out, while artillery shells provided that extra bit of uncertainty...

Why don't they make a WWII game... where you're Japanese... or a German... killing... Allies! Brilliant! Or even better, an Ethiopian soldier fighting the Italians!

Didn't anyone ever play the "Panzer General" series? Or am I just showing how old I am? :D

Anyway, you could take either the Allied or Axis side in those games. And Panzer General was obviously designed to be played as Germany.

:p

Although, a WWI FPS would be nice for a bit of a change.
The only front with trench warfare was the Western front in WWI.

Ottoman's vs. Russians on horseback instead of the usual WWII car chase thing could be interesting, and if fast forwarded a little bit a Japanese scenario against the Russians, oh...OMG! You could even play as a Red in the Russian revolution, or vise versa...blah blah blah....

A WWII game with the Finnish people in it would be different enough to keep me happy! Winter War, here I come!

Didn't anyone ever play the "Panzer General" series? Or am I just showing how old I am? :D

Anyway, you could take either the Allied or Axis side in those games. And Panzer General was obviously designed to be played as Germany.

:p

My favorite strategy game...tell me that I'm not very old? Anyway Panzer General II was great.

In Silent Hunter 2 you can play missions only as a german U-Boot commander and get to sink many allied ships. I know they made Silent Hunter 3, but I did not play it.

im going to say one of my favourite games is battlefield 1942 and in it you can choose to be allies or the axis side so get to control, british american russian german and japaneese troops, and this is one great game, multiplayer is awesome and has kept me entertained for hours on end, and the single player is great aswell as you can tweak the settings of your campaign before going into it, e.g. 400% enemies on uber hard mode or 50% enemies on easy or combinations, i love this game and to anyone who is bad mouthing play this game then have a go...

im going to say one of my favourite games is battlefield 1942 and in it you can choose to be allies or the axis side so get to control, british american russian german and japaneese troops, and this is one great game, multiplayer is awesome and has kept me entertained for hours on end, and the single player is great aswell as you can tweak the settings of your campaign before going into it, e.g. 400% enemies on uber hard mode or 50% enemies on easy or combinations, i love this game and to anyone who is bad mouthing play this game then have a go...

It's simply unrealistic. All of those troops aren't on the map at once, they're respawned as you kill them off. The weapons also are way out of their respective time periods...(Panzerfausts and assault rifles in North Africa? Right...) Speaking of Panzerfausts, the AI spawns rocket infantry waaaaaaaaaaay too much. Rocket infantry were rare until the late stages of the war, (unheard of in the early stages) and even then only the Germans had them in numbers - typically one per large squad, not the massive rows of men shooting rockets at you that you see in this game....Hmm, what else...dive bombers with 50 bombs...argh.

Etc.

Granted, it never made any pretensions to be anything more than a quick blast. It's fun on multiplayer for a while before it gets repetitive, but as a single player game it really sucks.

There actually is one where you play a Palestinian...

It's called Under Ash.

http://www.4gamer.net/weekly/kaito/008/img/under.jpg

Hah, that kid's got a slingshot. "Plink!" :p

Do you get to upgrade later?

Hah, that kid's got a slingshot. "Plink!" :p

Do you get to upgrade later?

Yeah, you work your way up through different weapons.

I haven't played it though. I should see if I can download it someplace :p

Yeah, you work your way up through different weapons.

I haven't played it though. I should see if I can download it someplace :p

Yeah.. this thread's making me wish I had a computer that's actually capable of playing games.. :(

Yeah.. this thread's making me wish I had a computer that's actually capable of playing games.. :(I know the feeling...
(Mine's in for repairs and I have to make do with library computers...)

Yeah.. this thread's making me wish I had a computer that's actually capable of playing games.. :(

Damn... :(

I got myself a new one recently, but I know the feeling, because I had about 2 years of not being able to run anything before that.

Damn... :(

I got myself a new one recently, but I know the feeling, because I had about 2 years of not being able to run anything before that.The most exciting game I can play right now is Paint...

The most exciting game I can play right now is Paint...

www.adom.de

There you go. If you like RPG's. :D