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Destruction of Mecca?

Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 01:16
What would the followers of Islam do if Mecca were to be completely and utterly annihilated?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the pilgrimage to Mecca is one of the five pillars of Islam, something very sacred to Muslims. Unlike Christianity or Judaism (again, correct me if wrong) which don't require a pilgrimage, this pilgrimage is taken very seriously.

A Muslim I asked said that Allah would not allow that to take place.

What do you think would happen or not happen?
Neo Kervoskia
11-10-2005, 01:17
The world would implode.
Uber Awesome
11-10-2005, 01:17
I'll tell you one thing that would happen - I'd move to a small european country that wouldn't be blamed.
Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 01:20
Do you think there would be an Islamic revolt? Don't restrict the destruction to acts of war. Nature could be the culpript.
Serapindal
11-10-2005, 01:20
Uh...they'd go the smoking crater that was Mecca?
Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 01:23
Even if it were unsafe to do so? Regardless, that would show the true faith and devotion that Muslims have for their religion.
Neo Kervoskia
11-10-2005, 01:23
Do you think there would be an Islamic revolt? Don't restrict the destruction to acts of war. Nature could be the culpript.
Probably, it wouldn't be pleasant.
Keruvalia
11-10-2005, 01:24
If it was deliberate, then I feel really sorry for whoever were responsible for it. 1.5 billion Muslims would then unite under a single banner of total war.

If it were a natural act by, say, an earthquake, well, we'd kinda figure that Allah was tired of it and maybe wants a new one built elsewhere. Just to piss everyone off, we'd choose Jerusalem. ;)
Vetalia
11-10-2005, 01:25
Somebody's going to try and blame the Jews, I swear.

But otherwise, it's not going to be pleasant if it turns out the city was attacked. Worldwide Islamic revolt. If it's a natural disaster, that raises some serious theological questions.
Psychotic Mongooses
11-10-2005, 01:26
Just to piss everyone off, we'd choose Jerusalem. ;)

Nah, pick Tahiti... :D nice relaxing place, sandy beaches, warm seas... ahhh... bliss :p
Ashmoria
11-10-2005, 01:26
if a meteorite struck mecca and destroyed it, islam would take it as the will of allah and they would adjust to the new reality

no one would ever consider doing such a thing on purpose.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-10-2005, 01:27
Probably, it wouldn't be pleasant.
What if it were an Earthquake? Would all muslims start stabbing the ground, or would they listen to all of the crazies who would blame it on the Jews and the Americans (Whenever a muslim suffers even the slightest bit, be it tsunami or stubbed toe, the Jews and Americans will inevitably get blamed by someone)? Maybe they'd try to reenact the core and detonate nuclear weapons beneath the earth in order to make it properly suffer.
Neo Kervoskia
11-10-2005, 01:30
What if it were an Earthquake? Would all muslims start stabbing the ground, or would they listen to all of the crazies who would blame it on the Jews and the Americans (Whenever a muslim suffers even the slightest bit, be it tsunami or stubbed toe, the Jews and Americans will inevitably get blamed by someone)? Maybe they'd try to reenact the core and detonate nuclear weapons beneath the earth in order to make it properly suffer.
I think your last answer is the correct one.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
11-10-2005, 01:34
I think your last answer is the correct one.
Then I await the day with relish (and pickles if you have any).
FUCK YOU, EARTH, YOU AND YOUR LACK OF RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S CULTURAL HERITAGE!
Keruvalia
11-10-2005, 01:36
Wow ... are people really this misinformed?

If the Kabbah were destroyed, there would still be Islam. The Kabbah is not worshipped, we do not pray to the Kabbah. The pillar in Islam is the 5 daily prayers, but if the Kabbah weren't there, we'd still perform the 5 daily prayers as usual.

We'd be just fine.
Neo Kervoskia
11-10-2005, 01:37
Wow ... are people really this misinformed?

If the Kabbah were destroyed, there would still be Islam. The Kabbah is not worshipped, we do not pray to the Kabbah. The pillar in Islam is the 5 daily prayers, but if the Kabbah weren't there, we'd still perform the 5 daily prayers as usual.

We'd be just fine.
I should know better, being a former Muslim.
Keruvalia
11-10-2005, 01:39
I should know better, being a former Muslim.

APOSTATE HERETIC!!!

:D

j/k
Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 01:41
Kabbah being Mecca?

I thought the five daily prayers and pilgrimage were seperate pillars? I don't doubt that Islam would live on, I merely question what would be the repercussion of the destruction of Mecca.
Neo Kervoskia
11-10-2005, 01:41
APOSTATE HERETIC!!!

:D

j/k
I never did pray more than three times a day.
Keruvalia
11-10-2005, 01:44
Kabbah being Mecca?

The Kabbah is in Mecca. It's what we all face when praying.

I thought the five daily prayers and pilgrimage were seperate pillars? I don't doubt that Islam would live on, I merely question what would be the repercussion of the destruction of Mecca.

Hajj is important, yes, but if there's nothing to go to, so be it. Hajj could either be moved to Medina or we'd build a Mecca memorial that we'd visit at Hajj.

As I said, Islam will still function just fine.
Keruvalia
11-10-2005, 01:47
I never did pray more than three times a day.

Meh .... once is probably enough, really. The Prophet had a lot more time on his hands than we do. He didn't have a job or cable TV, after all.
Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 01:51
The Kabbah is in Mecca. It's what we all face when praying.



Hajj is important, yes, but if there's nothing to go to, so be it. Hajj could either be moved to Medina or we'd build a Mecca memorial that we'd visit at Hajj.

As I said, Islam will still function just fine.

So the destruction of Mecca would probably have the same impact on Muslims as the destruction of Jerusalem would have on Jews? Not a destructive blow to the core of the religion, more of a wake-up call to reality?
Somplace
11-10-2005, 02:02
No matter what or who did it the crazy fanatical(very small percentage) members of the Islamic faith would blame the Jews and the Americans. examples of these ppl would be Osama Bin Ladin and other members of the terrorist group. The Islamic ppl I know are fairly peacful ppl so they would be the ones who would no jump to such conclusions but wait for evidence.

Terrorists/Crazy ppl: :sniper:
Great Beer and Food
11-10-2005, 02:10
I'll tell you one thing that would happen - I'd move to a small european country that wouldn't be blamed.

Yup, I'd move to Canada and sit back and laugh as those of the neo facist-neo con community got what was coming to them.

Tancredo's suggestion of destroying Mecca is one of the most asinine suggestions I've ever heard. He doesn't belong in our government, he belongs on some white trash demolition crew somewhere.
Hyridian
11-10-2005, 02:15
Wow ... are people really this misinformed?

If the Kabbah were destroyed, there would still be Islam. The Kabbah is not worshipped, we do not pray to the Kabbah. The pillar in Islam is the 5 daily prayers, but if the Kabbah weren't there, we'd still perform the 5 daily prayers as usual.

We'd be just fine.

We'll see about that.
*books flight to whereever the hell Mecca is......belgium?*
Grand Mortland
11-10-2005, 02:21
Hmm, this brings up the question to the 3 great religious disasters:
1. Mecca is destroyed
2. Jeruseleum is destroy
3. Vatican City is destroyed

Too bad there's nothing to destroy for the Protestants. :P These are the 3 holy cities of the 3 Middle East-originated religions. (excluding Protestants who are Christians, but aren't Catholic). Most likely I predict on the circumstances of these destructions:

1-If another religion or nation struck the blow, it would be a war upon them and then go to step 2 when they win, lose, or set a truce and demand compensation.
2-If it was a natural disaster, some will say it was God's will, others will say it is a test of God. Either way, they'd probably rebuild in that smoking, cracked, melted, or whatever is left of that place.
3-And most likely some people will say your faith is wrong because their God struck your spot. And then it be total chaos and war as miniture radical groups in nations retaliate (maybe again) and destroy each other while they accidentally attack other parts of the world causing the Domino Theory of Destruction.


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Federation of Grand Mortland
Marrakech II
11-10-2005, 02:21
Well if it were a natural disaster that took it out than I wouldnt think that there wouldnt be a huge setback to the Muslim community. If it were an act of war. I wouldnt want to be in that attacking nation. All hell would break loose I believe. If you think Im suggesting that the US would do such a thing. Think again. If it were to happen it wouldnt be a US bomb that did it. Other than that the faith would survive regardless of how such a thing took place.
Nova Roma
11-10-2005, 02:23
So the consesus seems to be that Islam as a faith would indeed survive. Would it even grow stronger? Pick up more followers?
Colodia
11-10-2005, 02:23
What would the followers of Islam do if Mecca were to be completely and utterly annihilated?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the pilgrimage to Mecca is one of the five pillars of Islam, something very sacred to Muslims. Unlike Christianity or Judaism (again, correct me if wrong) which don't require a pilgrimage, this pilgrimage is taken very seriously.

A Muslim I asked said that Allah would not allow that to take place.

What do you think would happen or not happen?
I'm completely against Islamic terrorism and I know that our religon believes in peace and friendship.

But I'd pretty much hunt down anyone that gave the order to destroy Mecca. Bastards.
The StarGate Command
11-10-2005, 02:23
If it was deliberate, then I feel really sorry for whoever were responsible for it. 1.5 billion Muslims would then unite under a single banner of total war.

If it were a natural act by, say, an earthquake, well, we'd kinda figure that Allah was tired of it and maybe wants a new one built elsewhere. Just to piss everyone off, we'd choose Jerusalem. ;)

Lol! Good one! ;)

Hmm, I read in the spectacle of death that the destruction of Mecca is a sign of the last days, that and some other stuff which has happened already, ayyiyiyi, and the return of Jesus. So... I wouldn't be mad. I can't wait till the sucky earth time is over. People suck. Laws suck. Governments suck. The White Man's world in general sucks. I'm surprised there aren't more hermits living in clay huts somewhere in the Amazon Jungle. *sigh*
The Black Forrest
11-10-2005, 02:25
If it was deliberate, then I feel really sorry for whoever were responsible for it. 1.5 billion Muslims would then unite under a single banner of total war.

If it were a natural act by, say, an earthquake, well, we'd kinda figure that Allah was tired of it and maybe wants a new one built elsewhere. Just to piss everyone off, we'd choose Jerusalem. ;)

At that point it wouldn't matter. If they were going to nuke mecca, many more would follow. The world would be pretty screwed at that point.