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Guv. Schwarzenegger is apparently enforcing laws prohibiting violent games from being sold to underage kids. Considering the amount of violence Arnie has portrayed in the movies, isn't this just a bit hypocritical?

More importantly, will it have any effect? If a kid wants a certain game, he's most likely gonna get it somehow.

One of the inherent flaws in any celebrity assumed the mantle of politician, they lack the capacity and background to assume a moral highgorund on any issue.

People can change (for better or for worse...)

which underscores a flaw in the democratic political system as it stands in our current society... the idea that a significant amount of people will care enough or have the capacity to vote facts and issues instead of marketing and popularity.

http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,16869147%5E15322%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html

Guv. Schwarzenegger is apparently enforcing laws prohibiting violent games from being sold to underage kids. Considering the amount of violence Arnie has portrayed in the movies, isn't this just a bit hypocritical?

More importantly, will it have any effect? If a kid wants a certain game, he's most likely gonna get it somehow.
I beleive that when Arnold was in a violent movie, it was rated "R", therefore being up to parents as to whether they saw it or not.. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I like the Governator.
I reckon he should shoot people who tell him violence is bad. :cool:

american tv is full of violence from what I hear......

yet very little swearing......

Schwarzenegger - Actor, Governator, AND hypocrite.

:cool:

I'm not a big fan of Arnold, that said, he's not the only person involved in passing such a bill, a lot of other people took advantage of the opportunity to believe in assorted spurious theories and to grandstand to further their political careers with this travesty.
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There's probably some loophole which allows the sale of any video games with Arnie in it. ;)

I beleive that when Arnold was in a violent movie, it was rated "R", therefore being up to parents as to whether they saw it or not.. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

And as we all know, R-ratings are bullet-proof barriers keeping kids from tuning in to such movies when they air on TV.

Are there any laws preventing kids from buying R-rated movies on DVD or VHS?

The same rating was put on alot of his movies! Well at least PG-14 or higher. So it isn't really a contradiction in that sense.

People can change (for better or for worse...)

i agree

People can change (for better or for worse...)

Do you?

change you psy, he's a con...


:D

Do you?

change you psy, he's a con...


:DWhat are you trying to tell me..?

And as we all know, R-ratings are bullet-proof barriers keeping kids from tuning in to such movies when they air on TV.
Point is that by having a R-rating, parents know that the movie contains violence/sex/language scenes deemed unsuitable to children. It then becomes the parent's responsibility as to whether their children watch it or not.
Same goes for this legislation - Parents will now know as to what a particular videogame will contain.

So I can't see how he's being a hypocrite here. He never wanted to have children watching his violent movies. Now he doesn't want children playing violent games. Where's the hypocrisy?


However, if we got onto his anti-drug/anti-steriod stance, well that's another issue all together...

Point is that by having a R-rating, parents know that the movie contains violence/sex/language scenes deemed unsuitable to children. It then becomes the parent's responsibility as to whether their children watch it or not.
Same goes for this legislation - Parents will now know as to what a particular videogame will contain.

So I can't see how he's being a hypocrite here. He never wanted to have children watching his violent movies. Now he doesn't want children playing violent games. Where's the hypocrisy?

If this is true, why is there no law (to my knowledge) banning kids from buying R-rated movies? The same logic should apply here, right? Why are video games treated differently?

This censorship is pointless. If parents can't keep tabs on their children without the help of legislation, they probably shouldn't be parents.

If this is true, why is there no law (to my knowledge) banning kids from buying R-rated movies? The same logic should apply here, right? Why are video games treated differently?

This censorship is pointless. If parents can't keep tabs on their children without the help of legislation, they probably shouldn't be parents.
Isn't there? Where I come from there is.
At any rate, I'm not disagreeing with you: It is pointless legislation which isn't going to do one whit of good.

However, the original premise of this post was that Arrnuld is a Hypocrite for pushing this legislation because he's appeared in violent R-rated movies. I still argue he isn't. If anything, it would be more hypocritical of him not to do anything about violent video games considering he was happy to have his movies rated 'R'.

I think this is probably good legislation in that it isn't trying to stop game makers from making games the way they want or impose sets of criteria upon them. It's a sop to the moral minority that won't have any effect but will hopefully appease and shut them up for a while. Then they can bugger off and the rest of us can get back to doing some serious slaughterin', maimin' and killin'.

If this is true, why is there no law (to my knowledge) banning kids from buying R-rated movies? The same logic should apply here, right? Why are video games treated differently?

My cynical answer is because the video game industry does not have a nearly as powerfull and successful lobby as the movie industry.

My favorite part of Schwarzenegger's governorship was when the state legislature recently passed a bill supporting more civil rights for gay couples -- he vetoed it saying it was a decision for the courts or the people. Um, Arnie...conservatives usually get pissed when the courts do things like that and cry "judicial activism" (See Massachussets) -- and the legislature represents the people.....so you don't have much of an argument.

Isn't there? Where I come from there is.
At any rate, I'm not disagreeing with you: It is pointless legislation which isn't going to do one whit of good.

However, the original premise of this post was that Arrnuld is a Hypocrite for pushing this legislation because he's appeared in violent R-rated movies. I still argue he isn't. If anything, it would be more hypocritical of him not to do anything about violent video games considering he was happy to have his movies rated 'R'.

I think this is probably good legislation in that it isn't trying to stop game makers from making games the way they want or impose sets of criteria upon them. It's a sop to the moral minority that won't have any effect but will hopefully appease and shut them up for a while. Then they can bugger off and the rest of us can get back to doing some serious slaughterin', maimin' and killin'.

Fair enough. Still, I'd be interested to know what the law in California says about minors buying R-rated movies. Or if anyone actually bothers to reinforce such a law.

Fair enough. Still, I'd be interested to know what the law in California says about minors buying R-rated movies. Or if anyone actually bothers to reinforce such a law.

It's a clever marketing plot. The classification system tells the customer what can be expected, so nobody wastes time watching mild nonsense. If you make something illegal or difficult to get, it will be more popular.