Peace?
There has been a discussion in my region over whether there will be peace in the Middle East..For the most part my region says no because of the Muslims...So I want to bring it to the forums..Will there ever be peace in the Middle East?
Tactical Grace
10-10-2005, 00:36
Well, your friends sound kinda racist. Haven't they given any thought to the problem of the jews, or the christians? Or the atheists? That lot doesn't believe in anything. What kind of foundation for peace is that? :rolleyes:
Iztatepopotla
10-10-2005, 00:43
Ever, ever, ever? Maybe. Soon? Not likely. There are too many pressure operating on the Middle East, both from the inside and the outside and not necessarily having to do with the Muslims. Most of the Muslim world is more or less at peace, after all.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
10-10-2005, 00:46
There will never be peace in the middle east. Why?
The nation of Israel is there to stay. The land was legally bought, not to mention the fact that Jews believe the area is theirs because God said so. Also, jewish people have been persecuted throughout history, and many are-not-going-to-take-it-anymore.
Muslims want the Jews to leave. They believe evil zionists took away the palestinians' land, and want it back. Muslim belief is that just because a bunch of sheiks and arab princes sold the land to Israel (mostly through the UK), the peasants who lived on the land had the right to stay.
Muslims and Israeli's both believe in the concept of "holy land", where they were given sacred land by God. The muslim world's problem with the US also derives from this belief, because they think that every military base the US has set up in the region is on holy land as well.
I personally think that the muslim world is a little bit too concerned with a bunch of freakin sand. But that's just me. It might be really nice sand.
Lotus Puppy
10-10-2005, 01:06
There will be the day that Middle Easterners realize that they can gain from those that don't hold their views, including themselves.
The South Islands
10-10-2005, 01:07
No, because of the Jewish Problem.
Psychotic Mongooses
10-10-2005, 01:08
Here we go again.... :rolleyes: :(
PasturePastry
10-10-2005, 01:09
Peace will come into being when people are more interested in creating happiness for themselves than creating misery for others.
Tactical Grace
10-10-2005, 01:10
Peace will come into being when people are more interested in creating happiness for themselves than creating misery for others.
But how can one experience true happiness while They still exist?
Gun toting civilians
10-10-2005, 01:16
There will be the day that Middle Easterners realize that they can gain from those that don't hold their views, including themselves.
Exactly. Kinda hard to have peace if you feel you have a religous duty to kill everyone who believes differently than you do.
Unless you do kill everyone who believes differently than you.
"From a philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace. "
Pretty much summarizes what I think about peace, especially in the Middle-East.
There will never be peace in the middle east, even without the Jew-Arab conflicts you still have many other problems. Off the top of my head I can think of the U.S.-Arab world problems and the disagreements between the factions of Islam.
Not 'til all the Jews are dead and gone will there be any "peace". And that ain't gonna happen.
Andaluciae
10-10-2005, 03:13
Has there ever been peace in the middle east?
GoodThoughts
10-10-2005, 03:37
When Christ spoke of the lion and the lamb lying down together it was peace in the middle east that he was referring to. Yes, there will be peace in the middle east. It will happen because the City of God, the new Jerusalem is being built on Mount Carmel.
3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
(King James Bible, Revelation)
Accordingly, St. John, the divine, declared in his vision regarding the twelve doors and the twelve foundations. By the great and holy city of Jerusalem, which is descended from heaven, is meant the sacred law of God. This subject has been repeatedly explained in many Tablets and in the Scriptures of the ancient prophets. For example, it is said in one place: "I beheld Jerusalem marching on to the wilderness." The purport is that this Heavenly Jerusalem has twelve doors through which the advancing souls enter into the City of God. These doors are the souls who are the stars of guidance and doors unto bounty and knowledge. "At the gates twelve angels stood." By "angel" is meant the power of the confirmation of God; that the candle of the power of the divine confirmation shines forth and is illumined in those souls. That is to say, that each one of those souls will be confirmed by the mightiest power. Those twelve gates surround the whole universe. This signifies that all existence is under the shadow of those souls; also, that these doors are the foundation of the city of God, the divine Jerusalem; that upon each of the foundations the name of one of the Apostles of His Holiness the Spirit [1] is written. That is to say, the manifestation of the perfections, glad-tidings, virtues and high attributes of that holy soul.
[1 Christ.]
(Abdu'l-Baha, Tablets of Abdu'l-Baha v1, p. 92)
Eutrusca
10-10-2005, 04:25
There has been a discussion in my region over whether there will be peace in the Middle East..For the most part my region says no because of the Muslims...So I want to bring it to the forums..Will there ever be peace in the Middle East?
Only in a temporary sense.