NationStates Jolt Archive


Would you vote for me?

Serapindal
09-10-2005, 06:02
These are the things I would do if I was in charge.

1. Military. Military. Military! It's one of my top concerns, and we need a VERY strong military! We have to be the top in the world's Military.

2. Education is important. Duhh. Especially to teach our kids to shoot guns.

3. I would form a Paramilitary Group called the Stormtroopers, and another one called the Serapindal Youth (where we teach kids to shoot and what not.). As well as one called the Protective Squadron. These will all NOT be mandatory.

4. I would actively expand/conquer into other areas such as Africa, and other impoverished places with no civilization.

5. Implement New Income Tax System.

American Income Tax:
* 10%: from $0 to $7,150
* 19%: from $7,151 to $29,050
* 25%: from $29,051 to $70,350
* 28%: from $70,351 to $146,750
* 33%: from $146,751 to $319,100
* 35%: $319,101 and above

Serapindal Income Tax:

* 15%: from $0 to $7,500
* 18%: from $7,500 to $30,000
* 21%: from $30,000 to $75,000
* 24%: from $75,000 to $150,000
* 27%: from $150,000 to $350,000
* 30%: from $350,000 to 500,000
* 33%: from $500,000 to $1,000,000
* 36%: from $1,000,000 to $2,500,000
* 39%: from $2,500,000 to $5,000,000
* 42%: from $5,000,000 and above.

6. Defeat Feminism and Socialism in governments.

7. Literally wipe out Street Gangs, treating them as terrorist organizations and enemy armies, in which we will engage in actual battles against.

8. Wipe Affirminative Action out.

9. Wipe out Zero Tolerence Policies.

10. Register guns, but not restrict them at all.

11. Ban all abortion. (Even in cases of Rape and Incest).

12. Immigrants, bring them in, but check em first.

13. Remove all tariffs, corporate welfare, and other stuff like that.

14. Take a more agressive foreign policy.

15. Cut all support to Taiwan. Later, conquer it.

16. Completely erase Medicare, privatise Social Security, and take out most welfare. Along with the money from taking out Corporate Subsidies, we can use that money in Education and Defence.

17. Healthcare is a business.

18. Abstinence in Sexual Education.

19. Voting Age is at 25, and you must also pass an aptitude test.

20. Nuclear Power is encouraged.

21. Stem Cells=yay. Human Cloning(all)=yay. Human Experimentation on PVS patients=yay

22. Revive the Bellamy Salute.

23. Cut welfare. A lot. (Give only to the very needy, not the lazy)

24. Support the PRC.

25. Manifest Destiny.

26. *** Marriages, I don't care.

27. Drugs...meh. Medicinal Marijuana is fine.

28. Stop Racist and sexist Programs like how some corporations have to hire more women and minorities.

29. Use Propaganda, and make Terrorists go to "Re-Education" Camps.

30. Preserve the Tenents of the Constitution.

31. Put more effort into the War in Iraq.

32. Nothing says badass like WWII German Uniforms. Lets give those terrorists a good scare. (They were SNAZZY!)

Ask about my policy.
The Nazz
09-10-2005, 06:04
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 06:06
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

That's why I have the Schuzta- eer... Protective Squadron.
The South Islands
09-10-2005, 06:06
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

Yah, I'm Gunna have to agree with Mr. Nazz here.


No.
Posi
09-10-2005, 06:09
If you change your opinion on all issues except issues 12, 13, 21, 22 and maybe 20 (if CANDU reactors are used).
Greater Valia
09-10-2005, 06:09
No way in hell. Sorry, thats just.... wrong.
Galloism
09-10-2005, 06:10
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

Conquer Taiwan and Israel? Yay... that'll be interesting. Should be put a base with nuclear ICBMs in Taiwan too? The Chinese would love it.

Ahem, where did you say the revolutionaries were meeting?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 06:11
And people I don't like will be forced to use the bellamy salute and yell "HEIL SERAPINDAL!"
The Nazz
09-10-2005, 06:12
Yah, I'm Gunna have to agree with Mr. Nazz here.


No.
Viva la Revolucion! :D
The South Islands
09-10-2005, 06:16
Viva la Revolucion! :D

Oui..ummm..por favor!
The Chinese Republics
09-10-2005, 06:16
15. Cut all support to Taiwan. Later, conquer it.
Leave it to China.


25. Manifest Destiny.
I wish you're Canadian.
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
09-10-2005, 06:18
You had me til #'s 11, 12, and 18 made me want to assassinate you. :sniper:

I disagree with #'s 15, 16, and 24, but I could overlook them because most of your other ideas are brilliant.
Zinntopia
09-10-2005, 06:18
Nope.
The Chinese Republics
09-10-2005, 06:22
You had me til #'s 11, 12, and 18 made me want to assassinate you. :sniper:

I disagree with #'s 15, 16, and 24, but I could overlook them because most of your other ideas are brilliant.What's wrong with #12?
AllCoolNamesAreTaken
09-10-2005, 06:29
What's wrong with #12?


Well, it's too broad. Sure, let immigrants in, but after a complete background check and disease quarrantine, and they must pass a certification test for English language proficiency.

Of course, if they have even the slightest tie to a terrorist group or a country that sponsors terrorism, they must undergo a polygraph and a voice-stress analysis test.
Sick Nightmares
09-10-2005, 06:30
I dont think I could support that. Although, it's better than what American Liberals want, I guess
Aryan Einherjers
09-10-2005, 06:30
yeah, but eventually my folk would have to attempt to subvert your relatively modest proposals into a truely new and better way of running the country.
Terrorist Cakes
09-10-2005, 09:24
I started a trend? I must be significantly cooler than the popular kids at my school say I am... :rolleyes:
I wouldn't vote for you, but I'm Canadian, so you can't blame me.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 10:15
Well you're better than the democrats.....
Der Drache
09-10-2005, 13:03
Well I agree with half of your stances. But I have lots of problems. You are a war monger imperialistic expansionist. You are also very harsh on the poor. You propose both raising their taxes and cuting their welfare. I'm not sure I could afford your taxes. I don't make so little because I don't work or because I'm lazy. I make so little because I'm a student and have picked a carrer path that requires a great amount of schooling. Plus I don't see how your taxes could pay for things. You cut taxes only on the upper middle class (I'm guessing you are upper middle class). But to pay for these tax cuts you raise it slightly on the rich and a lot on the poor. But the poor can't give the goverment any more money. They will just have to default on their taxes and declair bankruptsy (assuming you still allow bankruptsy). Your war budget alone would mean massive raises in taxes across the board.

I agree with the previous posters. I would be part of the revolution against you if you were elected. We need someone who cares about others. Not someone who crushes the weak under an iron fist.
The Noble Men
09-10-2005, 13:06
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

I'll join you.
Peisandros
09-10-2005, 13:43
Hmm.. 5 out of 46 would vote for you. I don't think you have a future in politics :)
New Burmesia
09-10-2005, 13:46
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

I'll get the Molotov Cocktails, and you get the guns...egads! they're restrickted!
Pure Metal
09-10-2005, 13:47
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D
right there with you comrade (thats a no vote from me)
Super-power
09-10-2005, 13:54
"Ummm yea, lemme think about that for a moment - NO"
-Dr. Evil :D

I prefer a more libertarian candidate
Liskeinland
09-10-2005, 14:00
*snip long list of policies* Well, I'm not a big fan of Franco, nor General Pinochet… so that's a no.

I think I'll go off and build an altogether more socialist compassionate theocratic empire than yours. :p
Manstrom
09-10-2005, 14:01
If you would change #19 so it was 21 years old but kept the test section, changed #21 to no in both cases, and if you were more selective about the immigrants you brought in in #12 I would vote for you so, maybe. But I am American and I like most of those ideas.
Latoo
09-10-2005, 14:02
Some good points but major negatives so no
CanuckHeaven
09-10-2005, 14:26
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D
DOWN with Serapindal!!! :cool:
Randomlittleisland
09-10-2005, 14:31
Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Serapindal? ;)
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:00
Well I agree with half of your stances. But I have lots of problems. You are a war monger imperialistic expansionist. You are also very harsh on the poor. You propose both raising their taxes and cuting their welfare. I'm not sure I could afford your taxes. I don't make so little because I don't work or because I'm lazy. I make so little because I'm a student and have picked a carrer path that requires a great amount of schooling. Plus I don't see how your taxes could pay for things. You cut taxes only on the upper middle class (I'm guessing you are upper middle class). But to pay for these tax cuts you raise it slightly on the rich and a lot on the poor. But the poor can't give the goverment any more money. They will just have to default on their taxes and declair bankruptsy (assuming you still allow bankruptsy). Your war budget alone would mean massive raises in taxes across the board.

I agree with the previous posters. I would be part of the revolution against you if you were elected. We need someone who cares about others. Not someone who crushes the weak under an iron fist.

I have student loans...and I believe that tax cuts help stimulate the government, so in fact, I actually lowered it for everything, except the bottom tax bracket. I can just take out things like Medicare, Welfare, and Social Security, and funnel those in the military and education.
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 15:03
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

I'll be there with you comrade,I can be the guy who straps bombs to his chest and blows up serapindal :D
Call to power
09-10-2005, 15:08
safe to say you ain't got a chance on NS

but these days only patriots vote in RL so you'll probly win anyway :(
Kejott
09-10-2005, 15:11
There's no possible way you'd get my vote.
Eho nehevehohtse
09-10-2005, 15:14
I have student loans...and I believe that tax cuts help stimulate the government, so in fact, I actually lowered it for everything, except the bottom tax bracket. I can just take out things like Medicare, Welfare, and Social Security, and funnel those in the military and education.


HAHAHAHAHA. Tax cuts help stimulate the government. hahahahahaa.

Guess we aren't interested in stimulating the ECONOMY.

i would never vote for such a fascist power-monger. Your ideas are oppressive and short-sighted and only worthy of an adolescent male's prurient fantasies.
Swimmingpool
09-10-2005, 15:15
Wow, Serapindal, do you actually think that your policies should be implemented in reality?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:16
HAHAHAHAHA. Tax cuts help stimulate the government. hahahahahaa.

Guess we aren't interested in stimulating the ECONOMY.

i would never vote for such a fascist power-monger. Your ideas are oppressive and short-sighted and only worthy of an adolescent male's prurient fantasies.

You're unaware of the 51% of America supportive of Right-Wing Economics, and Social Conservatism...
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:17
Wow, Serapindal, do you actually think that your policies should be implemented in reality?

Of course. I see nothing wrong with them. A good deal of them are align in the mainstream Right-Wing, and most people won't mind the other stuff, like the Bellamy Salute and Pro-Immigrant Policies.

Plus, it's also great for free trade.
Kievan-Prussia
09-10-2005, 15:18
*reads topic*

So, Serapindal, you're basically a Nazi, right?
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 15:18
You're unaware of the 51% of America supportive of Right-Wing Economics, and Social Conservatism...

I know conservatives that would scoff at your policies,you've gone past conservatism and entered into fascism
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:27
I know conservatives that would scoff at your policies,you've gone past conservatism and entered into fascism

How is it Fascism? It's not like I have a secret police, and I've done away elections, or I start supressing free speech and all that. Fascism also includes regulating the econonomy extensively. I've done nothing of the sort. In fact, I've done the opposite.
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 15:32
How is it Fascism? It's not like I have a secret police, and I've done away elections, or I start supressing free speech and all that. Fascism also includes regulating the econonomy extensively. I've done nothing of the sort. In fact, I've done the opposite.

you do have a secret police which will lead to supression of free speech as for limiting the economy you got me there
DHomme
09-10-2005, 15:34
How is it Fascism? It's not like I have a secret police, and I've done away elections, or I start supressing free speech and all that. Fascism also includes regulating the econonomy extensively. I've done nothing of the sort. In fact, I've done the opposite.
No you've just decided to kill your citizens instead of helping find solutions to their problems, enslave other nations, created groups called stormtroopers and Hit- sorry- Serapindal youth, attack womens' rights, workers' rights and youth rights while supporting dictatorial regimes, revive a salute which reminds damn near everyone of nazism and wear nazi germany's uniforms.

Yeah, way to not be fascist
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 15:35
No you've just decided to kill your citizens instead of helping find solutions to their problems, enslave other nations, created groups called stormtroopers and Hit- sorry- Serapindal youth, attack womens' rights, workers' rights and youth rights while supporting dictatorial regimes, revive a salute which reminds damn near everyone of nazism and wear nazi germany's uniforms.

Yeah, way to not be fascist

much better than my argument :D
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:36
I don't have a secret police.

The Protective Squadron is a Protective Squadron.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:39
No you've just decided to kill your citizens instead of helping find solutions to their problems, enslave other nations, created groups called stormtroopers and Hit- sorry- Serapindal youth, attack womens' rights, workers' rights and youth rights while supporting dictatorial regimes, revive a salute which reminds damn near everyone of nazism and wear nazi germany's uniforms.

Yeah, way to not be fascist

Hmm....where did I say to KILL my own citizens. In fact, I'm against such policies such as the Death Penalty, and Abortion.

We already have Gender Equality, Feminists just want unequal advantages. Socialism is not worker's rights. We already have unions and what not, we don't need anymore.

And the Serapindal Youth isn't mandatory.

Also, we had the bellamy salute waaay before Nazism. They copied us!

I don't support Dictatorial Regimes. I never said that. I conquer Dictatorial Regimes.
DHomme
09-10-2005, 15:47
Hmm....where did I say to KILL my own citizens. In fact, I'm against such policies such as the Death Penalty, and Abortion.
Your gang policy


We already have Gender Equality, Feminists just want unequal advantages. Socialism is not worker's rights. We already have unions and what not, we don't need anymore.

Typical reactionary stance but I wont argue that at the moment. You seek to crush those movements- the only way to do that is by trampling on free speech and congregation. Sounds somewhat fascist to me.


And the Serapindal Youth isn't mandatory.

Let me guess, just strongly encouraged?


Also, we had the bellamy salute waaay before Nazism. They copied us!

Yup, we also had the swastika way before the nazis as well. Unfortunately the nazi regime has used that symbol and your beloved salute and has therefore become stuck in the public's minds as symbols of their regime.


I don't support Dictatorial Regimes. I never said that. I conquer Dictatorial Regimes.
Except for china.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:50
Your gang policy


Typical reactionary stance but I wont argue that at the moment. You seek to crush those movements- the only way to do that is by trampling on free speech and congregation. Sounds somewhat fascist to me.


Let me guess, just strongly encouraged?


Yup, we also had the swastika way before the nazis as well. Unfortunately the nazi regime has used that symbol and your beloved salute and has therefore become stuck in the public's minds as symbols of their regime.


Except for china.

1. Street Gangs commit crimes. When we see them, we shoot them of sight. It's that simple.

2. Yes, the Serapindal Youth is encouraged, but not mandatory.

3. You have a point. Lets use the Swastika too. It gives out the message "We pwn Nazis."

4. China is not a dictarial regime. Tianamen Square was 16 years ago.
Liskeinland
09-10-2005, 15:55
1. Street Gangs commit crimes. When we see them, we shoot them of sight. It's that simple.

2. Yes, the Serapindal Youth is encouraged, but not mandatory.

3. You have a point. Lets use the Swastika too. It gives out the message "We pwn Nazis."

4. China is not a dictarial regime. Tianamen Square was 16 years ago. No, you're not a Nazi… you're more like Lenin. You seem to have basically good intentions, but they're married with a hyper-aggressive psychotic mind (although it's nice to find someone pro-immigration) and "the ends justifies the means".

The scary thing is, my closest friends think like you. :eek:
DHomme
09-10-2005, 15:56
1. Street Gangs commit crimes. When we see them, we shoot them of sight. It's that simple.
Instead of trying to work out what creates the conditions from which they emerge, you decide 'lets shoot em'. Nice backwards thinking there

You missed out my argument about socialism/feminism here

2. Yes, the Serapindal Youth is encouraged, but not mandatory.
So would children who didnt join feel isolated from the rest of their colleagues?


3. You have a point. Lets use the Swastika too. It gives out the message "We pwn Nazis."
Yeah! and lets bring hitler back frm the dead and use him to give speeches for us, and lets bring back the SS, and start concentration camps. THEN theyll see you're not a fascist.


4. China is not a dictarial regime. Tianamen Square was 16 years ago.
You're just willfully ignorant in that case
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 15:58
Instead of trying to work out what creates the conditions from which they emerge, you decide 'lets shoot em'. Nice backwards thinking there

You missed out my argument about socialism/feminism here

So would children who didnt join feel isolated from the rest of their colleagues?


Yeah! and lets bring hitler back frm the dead and use him to give speeches for us, and lets bring back the SS, and start concentration camps. THEN theyll see you're not a fascist.


You're just willfully ignorant in that case

1. With Education Reform, if street gangs are still there, we've fix the root of the problem. Now it's time the annihilate the probolem.

2. The government doesn't get into social issues, like if Children are feeling left out. That's not our job. Never was, never will.

3. Hitler was never part of culture, and neither were the Concentration Camps. However, the Swastika and Bellamy Salute WERE.

4. You've ever been to China?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:00
No, you're not a Nazi… you're more like Lenin. You seem to have basically good intentions, but they're married with a hyper-aggressive psychotic mind (although it's nice to find someone pro-immigration) and "the ends justifies the means".

The scary thing is, my closest friends think like you. :eek:

Lenin was great! I hate Socialism, but Lenin was great. In fact, he wanted to implement quasi-capitalist things such as letting farmers sell whatever they had, after they finished their quota/tax. Sounds a lot better then Russia under a crown.
Liskeinland
09-10-2005, 16:04
1. With Education Reform, if street gangs are still there, we've fix the root of the problem. Now it's time the annihilate the probolem. Complacency. This is similar to John Major's "we have a classless society". There will always be shite schools and parents, and saying "it's going to be all better" is not going to help. How are you going to pay for educational reform if you spend all your money on "toy soldiers"?
DHomme
09-10-2005, 16:11
1. With Education Reform, if street gangs are still there, we've fix the root of the problem. Now it's time the annihilate the probolem.
Education reform is not the only thing that can fix it, fiscal reform will also be necessary to crush poverty in these areas.

Once again, you have refused to comment on socialism/feminism


2. The government doesn't get into social issues, like if Children are feeling left out. That's not our job. Never was, never will.
No but if the S.Y. was encouraged then your government would be responsible for creating isolation within youth who didnt want to join the S.Y.


3. Hitler was never part of culture, and neither were the Concentration Camps. However, the Swastika and Bellamy Salute WERE.

So? Times have changed! Get used to it! The swastika and bellamy salute now remind people of the deaths of 12 million.

4. You've ever been to China?
Nope, you ever been executed by the government?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:16
Education reform is not the only thing that can fix it, fiscal reform will also be necessary to crush poverty in these areas.

Once again, you have refused to comment on socialism/feminism


No but if the S.Y. was encouraged then your government would be responsible for creating isolation within youth who didnt want to join the S.Y.


So? Times have changed! Get used to it! The swastika and bellamy salute now remind people of the deaths of 12 million.


Nope, you ever been executed by the government?

1. No, a stronger and richer nation is needed to crush poverty, as well as encouragement of a stronger work ethic. We need more businesses, and less taxes encourage that, so that they can employ more people, to do more things.

2. What about Socialism and Feminism?

3. So?

4. Yeah, and the Hammer and Sickle reminds me of the deaths of 100+ million. You don't see me banning hammers.

5. Of course not. But I've been to China. In fact, I was born there.
Kroisistan
09-10-2005, 16:21
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D

Ditto.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:23
Ditto.

What do you think the Protective Squadron and Stormtroopers are for?
DHomme
09-10-2005, 16:26
1. No, a stronger and richer nation is needed to crush poverty, as well as encouragement of a stronger work ethic. We need more businesses, and less taxes encourage that, so that they can employ more people, to do more things.
Whatever. Im really not in the mood for typical right-wing "free markets create jobs, fuck the workers" argument today, but all Im gonna say is that if you start executing citizens on your streets for potentially committing a crime that is essentially a totalitarian state.


2. What about Socialism and Feminism?

look a few posts further up to what i said about how you had to crush them


3. So?

So you'd be essentially forcing kids to join through social forces


4. Yeah, and the Hammer and Sickle reminds me of the deaths of 100+ million. You don't see me banning hammers.

Youre a tiny minority. To the vast majority of people the hammer and sickle have come to represent an idea of communism and not the 'Communist' regimes while the swastika represents both nazism the ideal and the Nazi regime.


5. Of course not. But I've been to China. In fact, I was born there.
Well done. Doesnt make you an expert.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 16:27
I know conservatives that would scoff at your policies,you've gone past conservatism and entered into fascism

That is true. I agree with my left wing.... people.... here in saying you have gone too far. we do not want a "seripiddle youth" or whatever it is, and I most definitly don't want to crush feminists... and conservatives are ment to support no tax or a flat tax, most definitly not a progressive tax!
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:31
Whatever. Im really not in the mood for typical right-wing "free markets create jobs, fuck the workers" argument today, but all Im gonna say is that if you start executing citizens on your streets for potentially committing a crime that is essentially a totalitarian state.


look a few posts further up to what i said about how you had to crush them


So you'd be essentially forcing kids to join through social forces


Youre a tiny minority. To the vast majority of people the hammer and sickle have come to represent an idea of communism and not the 'Communist' regimes while the swastika represents both nazism the ideal and the Nazi regime.


Well done. Doesnt make you an expert.

1. It's not execution. It's combat.

2. We're not crushing them literally. We're just fighting their ideals, and removing socialism and feminism from the government.

3. Only if they all decide to join at one.

4. And? I hate political correctness and sensitivety. I will try to be as insensitive and politically incorrect as possible.

5. Makes me a better expert then you, especially since I visit my relatives once every year...
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 16:36
and I thought this thread was started as a joke
serapindal,people like you just scare the hell out of me I know that you won't ever gain power in my lifetime but it's frightening to know that there are people like you out there.

oh and this probably doesn't have to do with anything but are you by any chance a christian?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:37
oh and this probably doesn't have to do with anything but are you by any chance a christian?

Yes.
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 16:41
how did I know that? :eek:
DHomme
09-10-2005, 16:42
1. It's not execution. It's combat.
Group of kids hanging out on street corner and you get the army to shoot them. I call that an execution


2. We're not crushing them literally. We're just fighting their ideals, and removing socialism and feminism from the government.

Ah, so you only want to stamp out equality and freedom within the government? I see now.


3. Only if they all decide to join at one.

Not entirely sure what this is meant to mean


4. And? I hate political correctness and sensitivety. I will try to be as insensitive and politically incorrect as possible.

Great then! Why dont we just make our flag a picture of a lynched black guy with the words "YOU'RE NEXT" underneath it? That would be pretty damn insensitive, wouldnt it?

5. Makes me a better expert then you, especially since I visit my relatives once every year...
Wow. I better bow down in awe to your amazing china knowledge. [/sarcasm]
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:44
how did I know that? :eek:

Are you a commie?
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:47
Group of kids hanging out on street corner and you get the army to shoot them. I call that an execution


Ah, so you only want to stamp out equality and freedom within the government? I see now.


Not entirely sure what this is meant to mean


Great then! Why dont we just make our flag a picture of a lynched black guy with the words "YOU'RE NEXT" underneath it? That would be pretty damn insensitive, wouldnt it?


Wow. I better bow down in awe to your amazing china knowledge. [/sarcasm]

1. Street Gangs generally refers to criminals, murderers, drive-by artists, and what not. That's combat.

2. WRONG. In fact, I seek to bring equality and freedom, by ousting sexist Feminist Policies.

3. Meh.

4. That accomplishes the same thing as PC. Lying. Though that would be funny in a sick way.

5. And I should to yours?
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 16:47
Yes.

No you're not, Christians don't want to go round killing people, it's people like you who claim you're conservative, claim you're christian, that get people like me a bad name. You're just a joke!

EDIT: and a joke that's not even funny! :rolleyes:
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:49
No you're not, Christians don't go round killing people, it's people like you who claim you're conservative, claim you're christian, that get people like me a bad name. You're just a joke!


Think of it this way.

A gang-banging murdering gangster goes around killing people.

Now, assuming that he's going to kill more people, wouldn't killing him save lives?

And the same logic can be applied to Imperialism.

Wouldn't the people in impoverished places like Africa and the Middle East, be better off under the American Government, rather then starving to death and dying of AIDs, or being massacred by a corrupt goverment?
Falhaar2
09-10-2005, 16:51
Man if there's one thing I can't stand any more than Commies, it's Facists. At least Communists PRETEND to care about the people and make half-hearted gestures to the fact.

I'd fight your "government" tooth and nail. The fact that you support China is damning enough.
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 16:54
Are you a commie?

read the siggie
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:54
I'd fight your "government" tooth and nail. The fact that you support China is damning enough.

Half the things about China are outdated myths. They don't run over protestors anymore, they aren't socialist AT ALL, and forced abortions are monstrously rare, and are almost never administered by the government directly. The only gripe about China I have, is that they have a bit of censorship, but that'll go away in a while.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 16:55
Think of it this way.

A gang-banging murdering gangster goes around killing people.

Now, assuming that he's going to kill more people, wouldn't killing him save lives?

And the same logic can be applied to Imperialism.

Wouldn't the people in impoverished places like Africa and the Middle East, be better off under the American Government, rather then starving to death and dying of AIDs, or being massacred by a corrupt goverment?

first of all, yes they probably would be better off under the american government, but not "Serapiddles" american government and secondly, he deserves a fair trial before any judghement can be made, you can't just go round killing people, and if you think that, then you'll think anything.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 16:58
Street Gangs are just terrorist orginzations, and should be treated thefore as such.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 17:02
Street Gangs are just terrorist orginzations, and should be treated thefore as such.

no, there members should be given a fair and democratic trial, and believe me, you should not be on the jury.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 17:06
no, there members should be given a fair and democratic trial, and believe me, you should not be on the jury.

We DO give terrorists fair and democratic trials, if they are captured...alive.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 17:07
We DO give terrorists fair and democratic trials, if they are captured...alive.

that wasn't what you were saying, you were saying go round with machine guns and shoot them on sight...
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 17:09
that wasn't what you were saying, you were saying go round with machine guns and shoot them on sight...

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I'l clarify it.

We will shoot hostile gang members on sight. If they surrender peacefully, they will not get shot.
Nureonia
09-10-2005, 17:11
Your strategy seems to be to fight terror with terror.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 17:12
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I'l clarify it.

We will shoot hostile gang members on sight. If they surrender peacefully, they will not get shot.

no, the only time you shoot someone is when you life or others lives are in danger, if they're trying to punch you, you taser them and take them in for questioning.
Neo Kervoskia
09-10-2005, 17:14
Sure I'd vote for you....if I were Captain Cocko-Cocko Bananas.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 17:16
Sure I'd vote for you....if I were Captain Cocko-Cocko Bananas.

I am making a note to appoint Captain Cocko-Cocko Bananas to my Cabinet.
Dobbsworld
09-10-2005, 17:17
Uhhh...
NO.
Swimmingpool
09-10-2005, 17:19
Street Gangs are just terrorist orginzations, and should be treated thefore as such.
No, they are not. Street gangs don't have political goals, which is a defining tenet of terrorism.
PsiOps
09-10-2005, 17:27
How about not :)
Czardas
09-10-2005, 17:31
Not a chance in hell. I might lead the revolution against you as a matter of fact. :D
No, I would. I'm more charismatic, enigmatic, and opposed.

If Serapindal was elected into office, I'd lead a revolutionary army straight into the White House/Congress/Supreme Court and probably brutally murder him and his family and friends, delete all his posts on NS, and wipe out all evidence of his existence.

Those policies scare me that anyone actually believes in them.
Czardas
09-10-2005, 17:33
Sure I'd vote for you....if I were Captain Cocko-Cocko Bananas.
You aren't?

Oh, sorry... my intelligence network must be down.... :p
Eutrusca
09-10-2005, 17:34
"Would you vote for me?"

In a word? No. :p
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 17:37
If Serapindal was elected into office, I'd lead a revolutionary army straight into the White House/Congress/Supreme Court and probably brutally murder him and his family and friends, delete all his posts on NS, and wipe out all evidence of his existence.

it's a very big if...
Czardas
09-10-2005, 17:37
"Would you vote for me?"

In a word? No. :p
:eek: We agree on something!

(I mean, besides that Inquisitorial methods of torture are quite effective for dealing with....certain people. ;))
Czardas
09-10-2005, 17:38
it's a very big if...
True, which is why I probably wouldn't do it anyway.
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 17:43
so serapindal, if you're watching, i think you know what the answer to your original question is...
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 18:00
Yes?
Czardas
09-10-2005, 18:01
Yes?
Actually, I think....
Thekalu
09-10-2005, 18:04
what's your position on drugs?
Aust
09-10-2005, 18:05
I'd be leading the reveloution against you mate.
Zolworld
09-10-2005, 18:11
Well im with you on israel, and street gangs, and stem cells. and I must admit that WW2 germans did look pretty cool, specially the SS, those dandy mofo's. and your income tax seems reasonable. But why ban abortion? I know a lot of people dont like it but if theres a better way to get rid of an unwanted foetus Then I'd like to hear it.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 18:12
Well im with you on israel, and street gangs, and stem cells. and I must admit that WW2 germans did look pretty cool, specially the SS, those dandy mofo's. and your income tax seems reasonable. But why ban abortion? I know a lot of people dont like it but if theres a better way to get rid of an unwanted foetus Then I'd like to hear it.

Simple. If no one wants a baby, the military can take it!
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 18:12
what's your position on drugs?

Medicinal Marijuana=Yay

Others=Nay
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 18:13
I'd be leading the reveloution against you mate.

There's been 30 or so people who want to lead the revolution. IT would be fun to see all you fight out for it.
Eutrusca
09-10-2005, 18:14
:eek: We agree on something!

(I mean, besides that Inquisitorial methods of torture are quite effective for dealing with....certain people. ;))
OMG! [ faints ] **THUD** ;)
Czardas
09-10-2005, 18:14
I'd be leading the reveloution against you mate.
Haven't we been over this already? You can be my second-in-command if you really want. ;)
Aust
09-10-2005, 18:22
Haven't we been over this already? You can be my second-in-command if you really want. ;)
Who, I'll be General Austinhizer
Warta Endor
09-10-2005, 18:26
Haven't we been over this already? You can be my second-in-command if you really want. ;)

Hehehe, could I join in :p
Ekland
09-10-2005, 18:29
*Snip*

Would I vote for you?

No.

Fucking.

Way.
Aryan Einherjers
09-10-2005, 18:32
Would I vote for you?

No.

Fucking.

Way.

no dude seriously... WAY
Ham-o
09-10-2005, 18:32
Unless the other candidate is better, I'd go with yes. I agree with most of you issues, other than no abortion and a few others that I was too lazy to actually read.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 18:35
no dude seriously... WAY

Yay. At least I have one person voting for me...
Pure Metal
09-10-2005, 18:51
*claps DHomme's contribution to this thread (keep up the good fight buddy)*
Independent societies
09-10-2005, 19:03
If I did, I would have to shoot myself. You can't just conquer the world! I would spend every waking moment of my life making sure you dont get into office.
Cr4zYn4t10n
09-10-2005, 19:06
If you are really being serious....

NNNNOOOOO. Never. If you'd win in would try to be as far away as possible ;)

So is there a list or something where you can join the revolution? :D
Galloism
09-10-2005, 19:06
If I did, I would have to shoot myself. You can't just conquer the world! I would spend every waking moment of my life making sure you dont get into office.

You better stop me too, then. My goal in life is to take over the world and rule it with an iron fist.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 19:16
You better stop me too, then. My goal in life is to take over the world and rule it with an iron fist.

We two need to join up.
Galloism
09-10-2005, 19:17
We two need to join up.

You're too reckless, and besides that, I would have to be in charge, which means I would have to kill you.
Czardas
09-10-2005, 19:21
You're too reckless, and besides that, I would have to be in charge, which means I would have to kill you.
I might give you Earth, if only because you're a little better than Serapindal. :p :D

~Czardas, Ruler of the Omniverse
Jakutopia
09-10-2005, 19:33
No way.

Jeez, you've made me agree with Nazz LOL
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 19:39
No way.

Jeez, you've made me agree with Nazz LOL

HAHA. I OWN j00 soul!!!
Czardas
09-10-2005, 19:41
Serapindal, way to go. You have caused agreement among people who always disagree on everything else. No-one has ever managed to do this before. You rock. ;) Of course, I'm still not voting for you.
Hobabwe
09-10-2005, 20:05
Congratulations Seripindal, your probably the first person who has multiple resistance movements started against you while your political career hasnt even started yet.


oh and as to your original question: HELL NO !
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 20:52
I have 11/131 supporters...that's not bad...
Compadria
09-10-2005, 21:05
Apart from 12 and 20 and parts of 12 and 21, we represent the antithesis of everything your nation stands for. So no, we wouldn't vote for you and indeed would refuse to even trade with you.
The Parthians
09-10-2005, 21:09
I'd vote yes, but raising taxes=Bad, thats really the only complaint I have.
Pschycotic Pschycos
09-10-2005, 21:25
Tax increase=bad
No abortion in rape=bad
everything else=HELL YEAH!!!!

YOU ROCK MY WORLD DUDE!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN RUNS FOR PRES.! YOU GOT MY VOTE BRO, NOW JUST GET OUT THERE AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Parthians
09-10-2005, 21:26
I agree, run for president. We need someone who can actually do SOMETHING good.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 21:41
Tax increase=bad
No abortion in rape=bad
everything else=HELL YEAH!!!!

YOU ROCK MY WORLD DUDE!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN RUNS FOR PRES.! YOU GOT MY VOTE BRO, NOW JUST GET OUT THERE AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, I'm lowering taxes, for everyone but the bottom tax bracket.
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 22:32
I agree, run for president. We need someone who can actually do SOMETHING good.

Awesome!
Blu-tac
09-10-2005, 22:34
I have 11/131 supporters...that's not bad...

it ain't exactly good either.....
Serapindal
09-10-2005, 22:43
Well, it's 13/144

That's more than 12%!
CthulhuFhtagn
09-10-2005, 22:45
Well, it's 13/144

That's more than 12%!
No. That's not even 10%.

Incidentally, I wouldn't vote for you. I'd be far more likely to go Ides of March on your ass should you happen to win.
Heron-Marked Warriors
09-10-2005, 22:53
I'd vote for you, but it wouldn't be my country you were screwing over with your abstinence policies and illegalising of abortions.
Hyridian
09-10-2005, 23:23
I agree with you on most of your points, expect the following(we all have problems in life). I think I could live with you as a ruler.


These are the things I would do if I was in charge.

11. Ban all abortion. (Even in cases of Rape and Incest).

12. Immigrants, bring them in, but check em first.

13. Remove all tariffs, corporate welfare, and other stuff like that.

16. Completely erase Medicare, privatise Social Security, and take out most welfare. Along with the money from taking out Corporate Subsidies, we can use that money in Education and Defence.

17. Healthcare is a business.

18. Abstinence in Sexual Education.

25. Manifest Destiny.
Serapindal
10-10-2005, 00:39
Glad to hear it!
Der Drache
10-10-2005, 01:59
Your a Christian? Odd, Christianity teaches us to help the less fortunate, while you plan on crushing them for being weak.
Serapindal
10-10-2005, 02:00
Odd, Christianity teaches us to help the less fortunate, while you plan on crushing them for being weak.

Where did it say I'm crushing the weak?

I am still keeping welfare around for the needy, and there are still private charities.
Uelium
10-10-2005, 02:02
On an interesting note the Nazi uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss!
Der Drache
10-10-2005, 02:17
Where did it say I'm crushing the weak?

I am still keeping welfare around for the needy, and there are still private charities.

Hm I thought I saw cutting welfare on their somewhere but must have imagined it. Though you tax the poor way to much.
Serapindal
10-10-2005, 02:18
Hm I thought I saw cutting welfare on their somewhere but must have imagined it. Though you tax the poor way to much.

I give the needy welfare to balance that out, so only the lazy are REALLY taxed a lot.
Der Drache
10-10-2005, 02:58
I thought I would take the time to remark on each statement. If I don't remark I don't have a strong opinion either way. There are some things I really like and didn't want to seem like I hate the whole package.



3. I would form a Paramilitary Group called the Stormtroopers, and another one called the Serapindal Youth (where we teach kids to shoot and what not.). As well as one called the Protective Squadron. These will all NOT be mandatory.


I think the Boy Scouts already accomplish what the Serapindal Youth do and don't sound as fascist.


4. I would actively expand/conquer into other areas such as Africa, and other impoverished places with no civilization.

They would resent that. I think it would be better to aid them and help them build their society.


5. Implement New Income Tax System.

As I've said numerous times. Too harsh on the poor.


6. Defeat Feminism and Socialism in governments.


I'm conservative and against most forms of socialism but socialism isn't a bad word. There are certain things the government would be better at running then private industry. Not all feminism is bad. Women still don't make as much as men. Yes, sometimes they demand special treatment and are militantly pro-choice. I have issues with that. What do you think of "Feminists for Life"


7. Literally wipe out Street Gangs, treating them as terrorist organizations and enemy armies, in which we will engage in actual battles against.

Seems a little harsh. Yes, many of them are murderers, but how do you know you aren't getting people guilty of minor vandelism and nothing else.


8. Wipe Affirminative Action out.

Sure, but make sure you deal with inequality in education


9. Wipe out Zero Tolerence Policies.

Behind you 100% on this one


10. Register guns, but not restrict them at all.

I dissagree, if someone has used a gun for a crime then as far as I'm concerned he has lost his right to have one.


11. Ban all abortion. (Even in cases of Rape and Incest).

12. Immigrants, bring them in, but check em first.

Completly agree


15. Cut all support to Taiwan and Israel. Later, conquer them.

I don't understand. Why would we want to conquer Taiwan and Isreal?


16. Completely erase Medicare, privatise Social Security, and take out most welfare. Along with the money from taking out Corporate Subsidies, we can use that money in Education and Defence.

I agree these programs need major reform. I don't think the defence budget, in general, needs more money. I think it just needs to be spent more intelligently. Though we got ourselves into the mess in Iraq so I we could use the extra money for the time being.


19. Voting Age is at 25, and you must also pass an aptitude test.

I'm guessing you are older then I thought, or just want to get rid of the youth vote which tends to be more liberal. I kind of agree 18 year olds don't make the best decisions, though if they are old enough to go to war for the administration shouldn't they be old enough to vote for it?


21. Stem Cells=yay. Human Cloning(all)=yay. Human Experimentation on PVS patients=yay

No, I don't think human experimentation against the will of those being experimented on is justified under any circumstance.


22. Revive the Bellamy Salute.

Sure it looks cool, but if you are creative enough you can think of something that looks just as cool without the negative implications. Though I highly suspect you are a neo-nazi and just won't admit it.


23. Cut welfare. A lot. (Give only to the very needy, not the lazy)

How about we redirect it from the lazy to the needy instead of cutting it. Besides I worry about how you determine they are truly in need or just lazy.

24. Support the PRC.


25. Manifest Destiny.

Huh, to expand from ocean to ocean? We allready do, unless you are talking about world domination. That's a waist of money. Besides ruleing the world will just cost us resources and overtax our military. What's the point?


26. *** Marriages, I don't care.

agree, I don't much care


28. Stop Racist and sexist Programs like how some corporations have to hire more women and minorities.

I agree, though you are repeating yourself


30. Preserve the Tenents of the Constitution.

Couldn't agree more


31. Put more effort into the War in Iraq.

Yes, it's are mess. It's our responsibility to fix. We need to fully fund it.


32. Nothing says badass like WWII German Uniforms. Lets give those terrorists a good scare. (They were SNAZZY!)

I agree, but we would have to modify them so we don't look like we are trying to be Nazi, and the whole skulls on the SS uniforms have to go. We don't want to look evil, just snazzy and intimidating.
Serapindal
10-10-2005, 04:53
18/171...that's really impressive...
Serapindal
10-10-2005, 04:55
Oh yeah, and I'm not really talking about feminism feminism, more so radical feminism, which seems more and more popular these days...
Serapindal
11-10-2005, 00:19
Yeah, I think I'm doing well...
Czardas
11-10-2005, 00:23
It looks like I'll have plenty of support in my revolution lol... :D
Serapindal
11-10-2005, 02:50
You know, I don't know what the other is for...
Dobbsworld
11-10-2005, 03:06
Yeah, I think I'm doing well...
Monomaniacs usually do.
Heikes
11-10-2005, 03:12
Yeah, I think I'm doing well...


Of course not; you're smart, honest, and dont sugarcoat things.

Im dont think we should take over Israel. i mean y would we, and marriage is good, u may be a little extreme but our government isnt very good at accomplishing things so that would even out. Overall i agree with your position.


(You should really invest in ninja training and outfits for the military, at least the special forces)
Serapindal
11-10-2005, 03:41
Of course not; you're smart, honest, and dont sugarcoat things.

Im dont think we should take over Israel. i mean y would we, and marriage is good, u may be a little extreme but our government isnt very good at accomplishing things so that would even out. Overall i agree with your position.


(You should really invest in ninja training and outfits for the military, at least the special forces)

I dunno...Pirates are cool too...
Bumboat
11-10-2005, 03:47
Yah, I'm Gunna have to agree with Mr. Nazz here.


No.

I agree with Nazz as well.
Serapindal
11-10-2005, 03:51
I also ask for reasons.
Serapindal
12-10-2005, 00:00
You know, I didn't vote so far...