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I've considered creating my own political party, called the Modern Radicals, when I am a bit older (ie: legally allowed to). The main goals would be:
-Abolish the military
-Slowly overhaul the entire judicial system, replacing prisons with rehabilitation centres for those criminals diagnosed as able to rehabitate, and secure care facilities for those criminals living with severe personality disorders or mental illnesses.
-Improve human rights for all Canadians.
-Lower the voting age to 16.
-Legalise and tax marijuana. (Note: only government approved marijuana would be legal).
-Improve healthcare (ie: shorten waiting lists) by creating a strictly monitered private healthcare system, in addition to the current free, universal health care. (To keep the rich from getting too much of a benefit, doctors would be required to work a certain number of years at public hospitals, the number of private clinics would be limited, and salary caps would be put on the salaries of privately employed doctors).
-Improve the economy by introducing "government fundraisers" in which people good donate money to a specific area of the government in exchange for admittance to some kind of event.
-Convince Quebec to stay with Canada.

I understand that many voters would not be ready for a Radical/Liberterian party, but I am curious to see how many people would vote for me.

god no

Do that in the US (ok, except for maybe the Quebec part) and I wouldn't just vote for you, I'd worship you to the end of my days. ;)

Or not.


Well, if I lived in Canada, I'd vote for you. And this year I'd just be old enough to vote under your new laws, too. ;)

You Only Get What You Give!!!

I've considered creating my own political party, called the Modern Radicals, when I am a bit older (ie: legally allowed to). The main goals would be:
-Abolish the military

Nope.

-Slowly overhaul the entire judicial system, replacing prisons with rehabilitation centres for those criminals diagnosed as able to rehabitate, and secure care facilities for those criminals living with severe personality disorders or mental illnesses.

Remove what's left of the Judicial System's teeth? Nope.

-Improve human rights for all Canadians.

Vague.

1-Lower the voting age to 16.

Ok, I can see that.

-Legalise and tax marijuana. (Note: only government approved marijuana would be legal).

Ok, I can see that.

-Improve healthcare (ie: shorten waiting lists) by creating a strictly monitered private healthcare system, in addition to the current free, universal health care. (To keep the rich from getting too much of a benefit, doctors would be required to work a certain number of years at public hospitals, the number of private clinics would be limited, and salary caps would be put on the salaries of privately employed doctors).

Hmm, not familiar with what the public healthcare is like. Can't say.

-Improve the economy by introducing "government fundraisers" in which people good donate money to a specific area of the government in exchange for admittance to some kind of event.

Bad idea. You're wasting money that private citizens will waste on their own.

-Convince Quebec to stay with Canada.

:D

Nope, I wouldn't vote for you. Why? Because I don't live in Canada.

(Wouldn't vote for you if you ran in the USA either though)

Nope.



Remove what's left of the Judicial System's teeth? Nope.



Vague.



Ok, I can see that.



Ok, I can see that.



Hmm, not familiar with what the public healthcare is like. Can't say.



Bad idea. You're wasting money that private citizens will waste on their own.



:D

Nope, I wouldn't vote for you. Why? Because I don't live in Canada.

(Wouldn't vote for you if you ran in the USA either though)

Are you a conservative? I'm guessing you are, based on your military and judicial beliefs. What's wrong with getting rid of the justice system's teeth, if biting is cleary not effective? Punishment does not work. People don't not commit crimes because they are scared of the punishment.

The human rights one is vague, I'll admit.

In Canada, we have public healthcare. That means that everyone can recieve free healthcare. The problem is, wait lists for surgery are so long that people have died waiting for procedures.

I don't think spending money to improve healthcare, education, etc. is a waste. The fundraisers would be like optional taxes, thats all.

-Convince Quebec to stay with Canada.

How would you go about delivering that particular promise?

I've considered creating my own political party, called the Modern Radicals, when I am a bit older (ie: legally allowed to). The main goals would be:
-Abolish the militaryOnly if it's replaced with a voluntary citizen's militia.
-Slowly overhaul the entire judicial system, replacing prisons with rehabilitation centres for those criminals diagnosed as able to rehabitate, and secure care facilities for those criminals living with severe personality disorders or mental illnesses.
-Improve human rights for all Canadians.
-Lower the voting age to 16.Only if high schoolers have a better education in civics
-Legalise and tax marijuana. (Note: only government approved marijuana would be legal).I agree with this completely
-Improve healthcare (ie: shorten waiting lists) by creating a strictly monitered private healthcare system, in addition to the current free, universal health care. (To keep the rich from getting too much of a benefit, doctors would be required to work a certain number of years at public hospitals, the number of private clinics would be limited, and salary caps would be put on the salaries of privately employed doctors).
-Improve the economy by introducing "government fundraisers" in which people good donate money to a specific area of the government in exchange for admittance to some kind of event.
-Convince Quebec to stay with Canada.

I understand that many voters would not be ready for a Radical/Liberterian party, but I am curious to see how many people would vote for me.
Over all I feel that you have some good basic ideas. While I wouldn't classify them as being libertarian, they're at least an improvement over what we currently have. I'm an american, but If I could and there wasn't a Libertarian candidate to vote for instead, I'd vote for you.

How would you go about delivering that particular promise?

Okay, so I can't force them to stay, but I can help them feel wanted and needed. It's cool to be bilingual!

Okay, so I can't force them to stay, but I can help them feel wanted and needed.

Wow.


You'd think the liberals would have thought of that.


You would be wrong.


Talk about a different approach.


Alright, you get my vote ;)

Over all I feel that you have some good basic ideas. While I wouldn't classify them as being libertarian, they're at least an improvement over what we currently have. I'm an american, but If I could and there wasn't a Libertarian candidate to vote for instead, I'd vote for you.

The point of having no military is HAVING NO MILITARY! But I would ensure that 16-year-olds were qualified enough to vote. It may seem as though teenagers would go into an election and vote for a party without knowing what they were doing, but really, the only classmates I know that would vote are very potically-minded.
I know the party isn't nessacarily libertarian, but I am, so I thought I'd throw that in.

I disagree with the healthcare part. I think the healthcare system should remain entirely public. In BC, a few government services were sold off and it ended up screwing the people over.

I would like more info on the more human rights.

Like the marijuana idea.

I would vote for your party if they were tied with the Liberals or Conservatives. Otherwise I would not vote for your party.

Wow.


You'd think the liberals would have thought of that.


You would be wrong.


Talk about a different approach.


Alright, you get my vote ;)

Liberals are goofs. They're better than the torries, but only because they're slightly less right-wing.

I disagree with the healthcare part. I think the healthcare system should remain entirely public. In BC, a few government services were sold off and it ended up screwing the people over.
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That's why I mentioned the "strictly monitered" part. We need to make sure that everyone has sufficient healthcare without allowing people to die or suffer because they have to wait for surgery. In many european countries, a balance between public and private healthcare has worked very well.

If you abolish your military, the U.S. will invade.

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You do not think about it.
Your there takes part in the institutional party more nearest to your thought, milita, obtains votes and be chosen, and if you have the necessary preparation you were taking part gradually in decisions of government, but in a certain area, health, education, propaganda ... to think of directing the nation, though it is with your own party is, since like saying it? Of imbecile,

be employed at politics, if you want, centre on an area, and if there is luck get with ten people in the same sintonia, from intone the one all the elections will be lose, communist!!

As response to your question, i´ll only vvote to parties with serious options of government, lucky

select an arena and work about it, i´m professional of the political marketing

The idea of changing your voting standards is a good one (I confess, I am speaking from an unhappy American point of view), but I think age limits are unreliable. A test to see if people could make informed decisions would be a better idea, in my opinion. A voter certification test, so we don't have someone who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground deciding who gets to run the country.

Legalization and taxation of marijuana is a good idea. Hemp is an incredibly versatile plant, with hundreds of practical uses.

The removal of a military is unwise. It's nice to think that war could end, but that would be asking humanity to anull an inherent behavior.

I would probably not vote for you, but that shouldn't mean much -- I wouldn't vote at all. Not getting my hands on any messes until I'm making them.

i´m professional of the political marketing


If not in the english language.

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You do not think about it.
Your there takes part in the institutional party more nearest to your thought, milita, obtains votes and be chosen, and if you have the necessary preparation you were taking part gradually in decisions of government, but in a certain area, health, education, propaganda ... to think of directing the nation, though it is with your own party is, since like saying it? Of imbecile,

be employed at politics, if you want, centre on an area, and if there is luck get with ten people in the same sintonia, from intone the one all the elections will be lose, communist!!

As response to your question, i´ll only vvote to parties with serious options of government, lucky

select an arena and work about it, i´m professional of the political marketing

Grammar Nazi, where are you when we need you!

If you abolish your military, the U.S. will invade.

I'm not afraid of the big, bad states.

I'm not afraid of the big, bad states.

Without any military to speak of, you should be.

arena
arena
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You do not think about it.
Your there takes part in the institutional party more nearest to your thought, milita, obtains votes and be chosen, and if you have the necessary preparation you were taking part gradually in decisions of government, but in a certain area, health, education, propaganda ... to think of directing the nation, though it is with your own party is, since like saying it? Of imbecile,

be employed at politics, if you want, centre on an area, and if there is luck get with ten people in the same sintonia, from intone the one all the elections will be lose, communist!!

As response to your question, i´ll only vvote to parties with serious options of government, lucky

select an arena and work about it, i´m professional of the political marketing

For future reference, free online translaters are not very accurate.

Without any military to speak of, you should be.

The UN would save me.

That's why I mentioned the "strictly monitered" part. We need to make sure that everyone has sufficient healthcare without allowing people to die or suffer because they have to wait for surgery. In many european countries, a balance between public and private healthcare has worked very well.
With the level of monitering you suggest I think it is more likely not to screw over most people, but it could happen.

If you abolish your military, the U.S. will invade.
I think he's onto something. Seriously though Canada uses its military too much for UN peacekeeping to get rid of it.

Fucking hell no. Loser.

The UN would save me.

LOLZORZ!!!1!111!!

The UN didn't come to the rescue of those thousands of Somalis murdered in Darfur, what makes you think they would come and help Canada?

LOLZORZ!!!1!111!!

The UN didn't come to the rescue of those thousands of Somalis murdered in Darfur, what makes you think they would come and help Canada?

Everyone loves Canada. PLus, if one sniper wandered off course and shot Celine Dion, that'd be a blow for good. That couldn't have happened in Somalia now, could it?

LOLZORZ!!!1!111!!

The UN didn't come to the rescue of those thousands of Somalis murdered in Darfur, what makes you think they would come and help Canada?
Well the fact that Canada has sent more troops to UN Peacekeeping missions than all other nations combined. If that is the case, would the UN have the means to defend Canada.

I am for almost all your points, but I cannot accept a government that wants to dissolve Canada's military. I am very supportive of our peacekeeping efforts, and believe in more support for it, not less. Other than that, the rest of your declarations fall in line with what I would like. However, because of that statement, I cannot.

Edit: I am also very ambivalent about a parallel private health care system; it would be very difficult to create and maintain without sucking resources from the public system.

I am for almost all your points, but I cannot accept a government that wants to dissolve Canada's military. I am very supportive of our peacekeeping efforts, and believe in more support for it, not less. Other than that, the rest of your declarations fall in line with what I would like. However, because of that statement, I cannot.

Yes, that's why you can't. :rolleyes:

-Abolish the military
No, we actually need a military to protect our sovereignty.
-Slowly overhaul the entire judicial system, replacing prisons with rehabilitation centres for those criminals diagnosed as able to rehabitate, and secure care facilities for those criminals living with severe personality disorders or mental illnesses. Agree but I think that's too much $$$
-Improve human rights for all Canadians.Agree
-Lower the voting age to 16.I'm afraid no.
-Legalise and tax marijuana. (Note: only government approved marijuana would be legal).$$$
-Improve healthcare (ie: shorten waiting lists) by creating a strictly monitered private healthcare system, in addition to the current free, universal health care. (To keep the rich from getting too much of a benefit, doctors would be required to work a certain number of years at public hospitals, the number of private clinics would be limited, and salary caps would be put on the salaries of privately employed doctors).Agree
-Improve the economy by introducing "government fundraisers" in which people good donate money to a specific area of the government in exchange for admittance to some kind of event.Ok
-Convince Quebec to stay with Canada.Hell yes

Legalize marijuana completely, along with every other criminalized drug. Do that, and I think I'd vote for you -maybe.

No, we actually need a military to protect our sovereignty.

No you don't. We Americans would love to come annex, um, I mean protect you! Quebec is going to leave sooner or later. We could sure use some more states...and with your semi-socialist policies, I am sure the added voters will prevent a crackpot like Bush from ever being elected again! Think about it! You will have to opportunity to not only be a part of the most powerful country in the world, but you will be able shift U.S. policy away from it's current shortcomings. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

Maybe, maijuana is dangerous when driving though (increases reaction time) would it be like a law against High Driving?

Maybe, maijuana is dangerous when driving though (increases reaction time) would it be like a law against High Driving?

I'm sure there would be, just like there is a law against driving drunk. Or driving on prescription medication if it impairs your ability to drive.

No you don't. We Americans would love to come annex, um, I mean protect you! Quebec is going to leave sooner or later. We could sure use some more states...and with your semi-socialist policies, I am sure the added voters will prevent a crackpot like Bush from ever being elected again! Think about it! You will have to opportunity to not only be a part of the most powerful country in the world, but you will be able shift U.S. policy away from it's current shortcomings. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
Sure, we can convince the blue states to join the Canadian Confederation while Bush and those redneck states can form another country: Jesusland!!! lmao
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Sure, we can convince the blue states to join the Canadian Confederation while Bush and those redneck states can form another country: Jesusland!!! lmao


Hmmm...no, that doesn't really work for us. See, there's the whole saluting the maple leaf thing. And hockey. And your beer SUCKS.

Then... go to Jesusland!!! :p

Then... go to Jesusland!!! :p

No thanks. We'll just assimilate you instead. Then the sane people will outnumber the Jesus-freaks.

We'll just assimilate you instead.
nah, its pointless.

read this article: http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=02479c28-0097-402c-ada7-e35623a8121a