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"Which Idealogy do you dislike/hate the most?"

ALL of them! :headbang:

Taoism, those ideological sheep. They'd take over the world if they were given the chance.

*gets out the popcorn*
This is going to be a funny thread :D

Definitely Libertarianism. Not only does it infuriate me because it's so stupid, it's also scary how great the potential for disaster is should it get the kind of attention in the U.S. that I suspect it will garner in the next few years (with the death of the GOP, of course ;) )

Yo momma's.

Now that that irritating joke has been made, we can be serious.

Anarchism annoys me. I find it far too idealistic. I'm a cynic.

Capitalism

Feminism, followed by Socialism and Anarchism.

Here is what will happen:

OMG teh capitali$t$ are teh satan! They eat the poor and are selfish, OMG!

Teh Commie Reds want my money, gar, gar! They won't let me eat who I want , ogagaga!

I hatez teh Bush, is sooo dumb, like, he are evil!

Or something along those lines.

Ignorant Escapism.

OMG teh capitali$t$ are teh satan! They eat the poor and are selfish, OMG!!11!11!!!!one!!eleven11!!1!1!

anarchism libertarianism communism

Feminism
Damn them uppity wimmen, wanting equal rights. It's unnatural!

Fascism and communism, tied.

N0! T3h Commie redz want my money! Tehy wont leht mi eat hu I want!!!111!1!1111!116

N0! T3h Commie redz want my money! Tehy wont leht mi eat hu I want!!!111!1!1111!116

zomg

Taoism, those ideological sheep. They'd take over the world if they were given the chance.

oh yea man, give those taoists an inch and they'll take a mile 1st you let them build a monastery in your neighborhood next thing you know BAM! ethnic cleansing

Seriously though, anyone too radical in a bad way. I belive in equal rights for every law abiding human being, but not special privelages for women, blacks, ect. Modern femenists, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, Islam.

Definitely Libertarianism. Not only does it infuriate me because it's so stupid, it's also scary how great the potential for disaster is should it get the kind of attention in the U.S. that I suspect it will garner in the next few years (with the death of the GOP, of course )
Bah, nobody likes a statist. Which is exactly the ideology I abhor.
'People are so stupid they need the government to take care of them - and of course, the government will never betray them!'
-Yeah, right

Seriously though, anyone too radical in a bad way. I belive in equal rights for every law abiding human being, but not special privelages for women, blacks, ect. Modern femenists, Communism, Socialism, Liberals, Democrats, Islam.

not every muslim on the planet is a terrorist one group in afghanistan doesnt represent the beliefs of 600 million odd people

Communism, Facism, Totaliarism(spelling?), Feminism.

Bah, nobody likes a statist. Which is exactly the ideology I abhor.
'People are so stupid they need the government to take care of them - and of course, the government will never betray them!'
-Yeah, right
The government has a better track record than corporations.

The government has a better track record than corporations.

enron....nuff' said

The government has a better track record than corporations.
The two mixed together fuck each other rather harshly, remove them from each other and they won't be as bad.

Fascism, Republican Conservitism and Nationalism

:rolleyes:

Fascism by a mile

The two mixed together fuck each other rather harshly, remove them from each other and they won't be as bad.
You might want to look at the situation in the early 20th century, before most of the regulations came in. The meat industry was one of the worst. If someone lost a finger, it went into the meat. When they laid out poisoned bread for the rats, the rats went into the meat. So did the bread.

The government has a better track record than corporations.

Are you serious? Which government are you talking about and do you really see it as having a good track record?

Are you serious? Which government are you talking about and do you really see it as having a good track record?
The government on average has a better track record than the average corporation at the time when government regulation was nearly nonexistent. I'd recommend that you read a book entitled The Jungle.

Hate = Nazism, Fascism

Like = Capitalism, Libertarianism, socialism


I really like the ideal of true but realistic communism: almost classless, almost stateless, equal society with no money and people do what they please with there life. With private proporty intact. Yet it is unrealistic anytime in the next.....say 5000 years? lol

The government on average has a better track record than the average corporation at the time when government regulation was nearly nonexistent. I'd recommend that you read a book entitled The Jungle.

The government was more corrupt than the businessmen, it only worked to exacerbate the problem in return for kickbacks. Study up on the Ludlow Massacre.

I believe it's every man/woman's right to choose his/her own ideology so lay off people

Fascism. Oh, and heterosexism.

I believe it's every man/woman's right to choose his/her own ideology so lay off people

My ideology states that people who post on the internet should be killed.

Ok, I dislike the following ideologies immensely:

Fascism
Totalitarianism
Authoritarianism
Consumerism
Stalinism
Trotskyism
Anarcho-capitalism
National Socialism
Leninism
Racism
Feminism
Reaganomics
Conservatism
Traditionalism
Moralism
Fundamentalism
Radicalism
Maoism
Militancy
Machiavellianism
Puritanism
Calvinism

Yes I do intend to.

Neo-conservatism
Neo-orthodoxy
Evangelism
Televangelism
Ismatism
Mercantilism
Colonialism
Expansionism
Manifest Destiny
Daltonism
Rheumatism (:p)
Adolf Hitler
Kim Jong-Il
John Ashcroft.

And...wait!

Neo-libertarianism
Theism
Hedonism
Solipsism
Hobbesism
Revolutionism
Nationalism
Blind patriotism

Ok, I think that's all for tonight. :D

I believe that every single idealogy has its individual merits and advantages. For example, fascism engenders nationalism, and pride in your country is what being a citizen is all about. Socialism is engineered to help out those in need, and when you're on the recieving end, you can't say anything bad about it. Capitalism rewards those who take risks, and, without risks, business is worthless. Democracy gives people the right to vote. Republicanism allows people to have more on their minds at any given time than what the next day's voting issues are. Mertantilism means that all nations involved have at least one place to export their goods.

That being said, I believe that the only bad idealogies are those which discriminate against groups of people or are easily corrupted.

Boy, lots of people hate Libertarians, like I am. As for me the only ideology that I oppose is totalitarianism, both Left and Right. If you're a libertarian socialist then groovey. And if you're a Right-wing military dictator then to blazes with you.

anarchism and its bastard children "libertarianism" and "small government"

Fascism, closely followed by communism.

Ok, I dislike the following ideologies immensely:Ismatism

What the fuck is that?

The government has a better track record than corporations.
No it doesn't, especially not as a percentage.

I hate ethnocentrism

Cultural relativism.

What the fuck is that?
Ismatism = the idea of assigning everything an "-ism". I hate that.

I hate anarchism and fascism. Anarchism because it's silly and fascism because it's evil.

I hate conservatism and capitalism

Nazism. And also anything that Berkeley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley) believed in.

I hate anarchism and fascism. Anarchism because it's silly and fascism because it's evil.
Anarchism isn't all too silly, just impractical. [/nitpicking]

Nazism. And also anything that Berkeley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley) believed in.
Holy shit, this guy obviously saw the matrix 200 and some odd years before it came out :D :D

I hate:

Theocracy
Majoritarianism
Nazism

Anarchism isn't all too silly, just impractical. [/nitpicking]
Impractical is silly, don't you think? ;)

As a Dadist, I hate Dada.

Death to Dada! Death to Art!

Jarrata! Jarrata!

Dishwasher baby exploring as walk Prometheus!


As to what I enjoy:

-Reading 'ism' so many times that I begin to doubt whether or not it is an apporpriate suffix in the English tongue.

-People trotting out their 101 knowedges of history, philosophy, anthropology and so forth for the sake of psuedo-intellectual oneupmanship, only to be bested by someone with a similarly limited knowledge of selfsame field of study (Upton Sinclair and the Ludlow massacre? What the Hell? Are you two in the same gen-ed history of journalism class? You should befriend each other on the terms of your TA's aesthetic form... she's fly.)

Straussianism, Christianity, Islamicism, Judaism, capitalism, where can i start?
They are all intertwined so its hard to say whats the worst or what i hate the most. They all lead to percievedly worse ideologies like naziism and fascism.
The religous nuts are so intellectually and morally retarded they inevitably fall for the straussian egoist bullshit. if only they studied philosophy (the religious freaks) they would realise that the way they are being manipulated into a false morality isnt even subtle.
The straussians know they can use their slightly more advanced education to confuse religious fanatics into believing anything.
The's look at some examples. Who do we know to be a student of straussian thinking on the world stage today? Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, GHW Bush and a million other hawks who work for the republican party and effectively have controlled the world for decades. Rumsy knows full well the potential to manipulate religous people, who don't have his philosophical background, so that they believe any religious message in the media and vote according to their religion. Hence the southern bapists and other brainwashed christians ensuring that good christian man George W Bush remains in power, despite his genocide and other non-christian policies like executing mentally ill black teenagers. they muse scaremongering tactics that wouldnt work in a secular world. Telling them nasty infidels are out to get them, dont trust a sand ****** with a turben on his head, kill gays and commies who want to ban their religion! So who do we blame the religion or the bastards who use it to their selfish, evil advantage? I was brought up to believe in a specific religion and i was intelligent enough to dismiss it as utter bollocks so theres no excuse for fools to cling to God still today. If i can see the light, if donald rumsfeld and some pretend jews can see the light, then anyone can.

Liberalism

To be honest, I'm not a fan of feminism and I'm prepared to take any amount of crap (trust me, whatever any critics out there have to say to me, has already been said, seeing as how I live in a liberal state called California). The reason is mainly this: most of the feminists I've met have never been able to give me a decent answer to my question- if women want to be equal (or better) than men, what kind of message are they sending when many of them say that men are scum-sucking, horny, pricks? To me, that just seems like a vexing quandry, that they want to also be scum-sucking, horny pricks...

Straussianism, Christianity, Islamicism, Judaism, capitalism, where can i start?
They are all intertwined so its hard to say whats the worst or what i hate the most. They all lead to percievedly worse ideologies like naziism and fascism.
The religous nuts are so intellectually and morally retarded they inevitably fall for the straussian egoist bullshit. if only they studied philosophy (the religious freaks) they would realise that the way they are being manipulated into a false morality isnt even subtle.
The straussians know they can use their slightly more advanced education to confuse religious fanatics into believing anything.
The's look at some examples. Who do we know to be a student of straussian thinking on the world stage today? Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, GHW Bush and a million other hawks who work for the republican party and effectively have controlled the world for decades. Rumsy knows full well the potential to manipulate religous people, who don't have his philosophical background, so that they believe any religious message in the media and vote according to their religion. Hence the southern bapists and other brainwashed christians ensuring that good christian man George W Bush remains in power, despite his genocide and other non-christian policies like executing mentally ill black teenagers. they muse scaremongering tactics that wouldnt work in a secular world. Telling them nasty infidels are out to get them, dont trust a sand ****** with a turben on his head, kill gays and commies who want to ban their religion! So who do we blame the religion or the bastards who use it to their selfish, evil advantage? I was brought up to believe in a specific religion and i was intelligent enough to dismiss it as utter bollocks so theres no excuse for fools to cling to God still today. If i can see the light, if donald rumsfeld and some pretend jews can see the light, then anyone can.


:gundge: ( tazer ) ok time to bring this one back to the nuthouse

i hate liberal democracy, it creates the illusion of liberty and individual self empowerment will delivering an easily manipulated and intensely corrupt state controlled by cabals of wealthy and powerful men and the moneyed interests they represent. at least under a totalitarian government you know who owns you and who can have you killed if you cause trouble, in liberal democracies you're still owned and you can still be killed, it just takes more work to figure out exactly by whom.

:gundge: ( tazer ) ok time to bring this one back to the nuthouse

that was a very well thought argument you gave there. you articulated the points in which you disagree with me and why which phenomenal clarity.

Imperialism (and all subsets such as Fascism, Neo-conservatism, Marxism...that's right I said it.)

Religion (all of them).

I'm an anarchist, c'nyatell?

Basically, any ideology that involves the brutal rule of the many by the few, whatever the concocted justification. Stalinism and fascism both qualify.

Socialism [Especially Communism], Capitalism, anarchy, feminism, Libertarianism [actually depends on what kind], Conservatism, Liberalism, Totalitarianism, Nazism, and Racism.

What do I like you ask? Fascism, Nationalism, Environmentalism, Authoritarianism, and Corporatism.

that was a very well thought argument you gave there. you articulated the points in which you disagree with me and why which phenomenal clarity.
hey don't listen to him, i almost agree with you... i found the antisemetism a tad subtle for my tastes, but i guess a little sugar helps the medicine go down.

Basically, any ideology that involves the brutal rule of the many by the few, whatever the concocted justification. Stalinism and fascism both qualify.
that's basically the definition of government itself

hippies. then fascism. then Reaganism- the current growing cult that beleives reagan was, in fact, the second coming of jesus

I'd have to say liberatarianism.

It's IMO the most spinless, self centered choice of existence, with conservativisnm running second only by one one-thousanth of a second behind.

Both of them preach the idea that other people are naturally untrustworthy. And more than that, that anyone who is unfortunate enough to end up on the lower end of the economic spectrum is somehow deserving of their fate, and should be left behind to be "culled" by social darwinism.

When will we, as a species, understand that pulling together is the single best way to live?

"We're chained to the world, and we all gotta pull!"
--Tom Waits

I can see the value in communism, though I am sure I would prefer free exchange to any other model of distribution.

The one ideology that I absolutetly cannot tolerate is totalitarianism. It's neither individualist or communitarian, it is simply the rule of the State for the State's sake and that is just sickening.

I hate any ideology that can be described as "authoritarian leftist" or something along those lines. Sadly, there are still people who describe themselves as Maoist and hang U.S.S.R. flags on their bedroom walls. They give the left a bad name, along with mainstream liberals.

Even though I am on the far, far left, I don't hate right-libertarians, and I don't hate capitalism too much. I can at least understand why libertarians believe what they believe.

Wow, this is a hard question. If I could pick 5 or so it might be easier... but just one? I would have to say I hate religious fanaticism.

I hate any ideology that can be described as "authoritarian leftist" or something along those lines. Sadly, there are still people who describe themselves as Maoist and hang U.S.S.R. flags on their bedroom walls. They give the left a bad name, along with mainstream liberals.

Even though I am on the far, far left, I don't hate right-libertarians, and I don't hate capitalism too much. I can at least understand why libertarians believe what they believe.
bah give me an honest red scum over some wishy washy neohippy post soviet soft lefty any day.

hey don't listen to him, i almost agree with you... i found the antisemetism a tad subtle for my tastes, but i guess a little sugar helps the medicine go down.

antisemitism a bit subtle? oh yeah i forgot to mention the whole ooint to my argument is i hate jews. the rest i just made up off the top of my head.

why cant a man just hate religions in general and not be labelled antisemitic? did i mention that hindus are retards too?

Extreme Feminism.
Zachism.
Ihateanyandallreligionism.
People-who-think-something-you-like-is-stupid,-just-because-they-don't-like it-ism.

antisemitism a bit subtle? oh yeah i forgot to mention the whole ooint to my argument is i hate jews. the rest i just made up off the top of my head.

why cant a man just hate religions in general and not be labelled antisemitic? did i mention that hindus are retards too?

there there, its okay...

lots of folks hate 'em... they just don't like to say so in public... cuz of the survellience of reprisals and all.

Extreme Feminism.
Zachism.
Ihateanyandallreligionism.
People-who-think-something-you-like-is-stupid,-just-because-they-don't-like it-ism.
you won't survive the revolution with an attitude like that, no matter who wins

Ihateanyandallreligionism.


Hey! I am a Ihateanyandallreligionist! I declare jihad on you!

Plato's philosophical conception of Democracy as being a shadow-government of the few politicians influencing the mindless sheep into percieving the government in one way, while in reality it is quite different. Er... ism.

Now, ask yourself, how many amendments of the first ten can you name off the top of your head, numbers and all? Be honest. That's Plato's point. I'm not calling anyone mindless sheep. I imagine that there are a lot of people here who could name all ten. But the vast majority of the American public probably couldn't name more than one or two, because, although they know what freedoms they have, they don't know where they get them, or why.

Libertarianism is just a right-wing form of anarchy, I don't have a lot of patience for it for that reason. I much prefer people who ADMIT to their anarchy.
I don't care for the travesty that has become Conservatism in the United States either. Few of them REALLY understand that big government AND big corporations are dangerous for the same way. I have yet to see why an oligarchy of rich men is any better than big government and I can think of numerous ways in which it is worse.
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Remember that Democracy originates in Greece, a part of the Balkans, Democracy has therefore the faults and the virtues of the Balkans peoples.

Optimism... damn bastards.

Libertarianism is just a right-wing form of anarchy, I don't have a lot of patience for it for that reason. I much prefer people who ADMIT to their anarchy.
I don't care for the travesty that has become Conservatism in the United States either. Few of them REALLY understand that big government AND big corporations are dangerous for the same way. I have yet to see why an oligarchy of rich men is any better than big government and I can think of numerous ways in which it is worse.


I'm curious, what would you ideological category, if any, would you put yourself in?

And Bob Saget-ism.
His followers live down the street and blast "Full House" at all hours of the night.

I'm curious, what would you ideological category, if any, would you put yourself in?

I'm a staunch Monarchist Socialist. They almost have it down in some of the Scandinavian countries.

you won't survive the revolution with an attitude like that, no matter who wins

well i do say so in public. then people whinge like its cool to defend jews. i don't hate evry jew, just the ones that believe in judaism and/or stink of shit.

well i do say so in public. then people whinge like its cool to defend jews. i don't hate evry jew, just the ones that believe in judaism and/or stink of shit.
It is cool to defend jews.

Tolerence! Fuck Yeah!

well i do say so in public. then people whinge like its cool to defend jews. i don't hate evry jew, just the ones that believe in judaism and/or stink of shit.

pssst wrong quote... see the retribution has already begun... the dominators are subtle in their manipulations.

Nazism. And also anything that Berkeley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Berkeley) believed in.
Do you hate the Thirty-Nine Articles? :rolleyes:

Seriously, subjective idealism is a philosophical theory and not an ideology.

Any ideology which

a. is unwilling to reveal its underlying reasoning
b. supresses/discourages criticism of the ideology
c. cannot offer arguments as to why it is better than competing idelogies.

Prime examples include the three Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Islam and Judaism) and nazism.

I'm not keen on Nazism, Fascism and different strains of religious fundamentalism and racism.

jews are in teir very nature intolerant to anything or anyone not jewish. a tolerant jew is a bad jew according to jewish law.

mind you wouldn't mind a bit of jewish pussy, i can tolerate that sat on my face, as long as its not that bitch who split the atom, or paul wolfowitz's mother

Socialism/Communism

i dislike
Fascism
Totalitarianism
Authoritarianism
Consumerism
Stalinism
Trotskyism
Anarcho-capitalism
National Socialism
Leninism
Racism
Feminism
Reaganomics
Conservatism
Traditionalism
Moralism
Fundamentalism
Radicalism
Maoism
Militancy
Machiavellianism
Puritanism
Calvinism
Neo-conservatism
Neo-orthodoxy
Evangelism
Televangelism
Ismatism
Mercantilism
Colonialism
Expansionism
Manifest Destiny
Daltonism
Rheumatism
Adolf Hitler
Kim Jong-Il
John Ashcroft
Neo-libertarianism
Theism
Hedonism
Solipsism
Hobbesism
Revolutionism
Nationalism
Blind patriotism

an any other isms i didnt type! im no anarchist i just think we should all get along........ :)

islam. Psychotic stone-age freaks.

Religious ideologies, Christian fundamentalism, Islam fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism.

And every ideology that lost contact with reality and human rights.

Which Idealogy do you dislike/hate the most?
Objectivism. It's against almost everything I am for. The same can be said for Islamism/"Islamo-fascism"/jihadism.

Feminism, followed by Socialism and Anarchism. So, women should be mens' slaves, the strong surviving over the weak all kept in line by fierce governmental control?

Wait… scrap that last one, I dislike anarchism too.
And every ideology that lost contact with reality and human rights. That would be most of them, then?

As well as anarchism, I dislike Thatcherism/extreme right-wingism, and… um… can't really think of any other ideologies. Wait, I hate fascism as well. Strutting around in uniforms is perhaps the most pathetic, ponciest pastime I can think of.

conservatism

that was a very well thought argument you gave there. you articulated the points in which you disagree with me and why which phenomenal clarity. Well, when I see "Bush's genocide" and "pretend Jews", I believe you may be a little over the limit.

Sibling-ism.

Any ideology taken to an extreme is bad. Most ideologies have their good points, the problem comes when they are taken so far that the bad points out way the good.

The real problem is that people who are for an intermediary on any issue are often seen as fence sitters and not given credence. So we need extremists from each side to fight so that in the end they come to an agreement that is somewhere in the middle, where it should be.
As long as the extremists aren't too extreme and one side doesn’t get too big an upper hand. Like in Australia, my country, where the Liberal party(confusing name since they are actually conservative on most issues) have the PM and control the senate, and as such can do whatever they like. Bad situation. Then again, we could be America, so it's not that bad yet.

And religions, come to think of it. I really hate religions. The more authoritarian, conservative and righteous the worse. So I really hate catholicism.

Which Idealogy do you dislike/hate the most?

If it has killed enormous amounts of people, maximized pain and actively diminished pleasure then I hate it.

I most despise the Liberal Communism espoused by the Republican Party of America, and to a slightly lesser extent by the Democratic Party.

Any ideology that marginalises the rights of the individual.

Especially conservatism, I don't need some idiot to tell me how to run my own life. Also communism, I don't need some utopian and completely unfeasible ideology to tell me to be altruistic when I know damned well no one in the world is. Authoritarian ideologies are also completely insidious. I also despise all moralistic ideologies, especially religions (which have the addition of being absurd fairytales, which make them even more despised). I can make up my own morals thankyou, and I can think for myself (I don't need some book of fairtales to tell me what to believe).

Well, since there are a hell of a lot racist/Nazi/whatever ideas floating around I'll stick to ones actually suggested as a legitimate idea on here.

Libertarianism - there is something very sickening, selfish and inhuman about the concept.

Well, since there are a hell of a lot racist/Nazi/whatever ideas floating around I'll stick to ones actually suggested as a legitimate idea on here.

Libertarianism - there is something very sickening, selfish and inhuman about the concept.

I think your thinking more about Ethical Egotism (the Objectivist Philosophy of Ayn Rand which has greatly affected modern Libertarianism).

Libertarianism (classical as well as modern) has its good points but it is often taken too far.

Libertarianism (classical as well as modern) has its good points but it is often taken too far.
I reckon modern libertarianism doesn't actually know what it's on about.

It was a useless unit of headless state-haters and wannabe-slave-owning civil war revisionists before Mises and his Austrians came along...

And I reckon Mises (despite his temper problems) doesn't so much hate the state as just simply think it can't work. He's got fancy ways of justifying it - but I think that's what it comes down to.
So many libertarians and anarcho-capitalists etc I think have taken Austrian arguments and misrepresented them utterly in order to put a rationale to their own irrational hatred of authority.
Just like Hume said they would. :D

The problem with modern libertarianism is that when it comes to most social issues (leave the individual alone) it has been coopted by the Communists, Socialists and Liberal Democrats. The libertarian economic and anti-state agenda scares away those who would have been impressed with it's social agenda (now coopted). They can't get religous/social conservative votes because of their social agenda.

So they are stuck in the wilderness and will remain there forever.

I most despise the Liberal Communism espoused by the Republican Party of America, and to a slightly lesser extent by the Democratic Party. What? America's had a revolution? Eh?
Any ideology that marginalises the rights of the individual.

Especially conservatism, I don't need some idiot to tell me how to run my own life. Also communism, I don't need some utopian and completely unfeasible ideology to tell me to be altruistic when I know damned well no one in the world is. Authoritarian ideologies are also completely insidious. I also despise all moralistic ideologies, especially religions (which have the addition of being absurd fairytales, which make them even more despised). I can make up my own morals thankyou, and I can think for myself (I don't need some book of fairtales to tell me what to believe). R… rights? What good are those? :confused:

National Socialism.
Anti-Semitism.
Pro-Palestinianism.
Communism ((Excluding Titoism)).
Conservatism.
Fascism.
Oprahism.

OPPOSE THE OPRAHIST DEVILS!

There's a boat-load of people on this forum who are in need of a good education. They should take a break, go out, and get one.

There's a boat-load of people on this forum who are in need of a good education. They should take a break, go out, and get one.
damn right... they should start by going to stormfront.org and learning the truth about the threats to the white people of the world.

damn right... they should start by going to stormfront.org and learning the truth about the threats to the white people of the world.

He said good education, not "laugh"...

damn right... they should start by going to stormfront.org and learning the truth about the threats to the white people of the world. Those sites always talk about pure white girls being raped by filthy blacks… a frighteningly 1940s Japanese "racial purity" complex…

Those sites always talk about pure white girls being raped by filthy blacks… at the behest of zog don't forget, that's actually the more important part

Well, perhaps I'll go with the crowd and say Fascism. The worst bits of the left and the right, thrown into a pot with a totalitarian government and blended on "high" for 5 minutes. Not very appealing.

To a lesser extent, any ideology that wants to tell me that it knows what I want better than I do.

All forms of Communism, Modern Feminism, Catholicism, Environmentalism, Animal Activism, Majority Rule, Fascism, Radical Islam, Socialism, Intelligent Design

He said good education, not "laugh"...

you can lead a horse to water but you can't make a silk purse out of one of his ears.

All forms of Communism, Modern Feminism, Catholicism, Environmentalism, Animal Activism, Majority Rule, Fascism, Radical Islam, Socialism, Intelligent Design Is there anything you do like? :confused:

Erm let me think.
#1 Nazism/Fascism
#2 Libertarianism
#3 Conservatism

damn right... they should start by going to stormfront.org and learning the truth about the threats to the white people of the world.

Or, more accurately, the threat of mind-numbingly stupid racism?

Or, more accurately, the threat of mind-numbingly stupid racism?
one mans mind numbing stupidity is another mans brilliant enlightenment... the only difference in this case is the latter is correct and the former is a brainwashed sheep of the zog dominated status quo.

Those sites always talk about pure white girls being raped by filthy blacks… a frighteningly 1940s Japanese "racial purity" complex…

Do they realize that 96% of all rapes against white women are committed by white men?

Is there anything you do like? :confused:
Natural Rights, Capitalism, and Rule by the Wise

Do they realize that 96% of all rapes against white women are committed by white men? if you believe statistics put out by the occupational government.

if you believe statistics put out by the occupational government.
You know, I'm gonna make the assumption here that you're American, you got the right to Keep and Bear Arms. And you have this right to form a militia just in case the government goes tyranical, right?

And, clearly, it has.

So why're you whining on an Internet forum while you could be out there constitutionally shooting people?

if you believe statistics put out by the occupational government.
Great another aryan that believes whites are superior and that the jews are in control of a giant conspiracy...............

*Newsflash* Its the 21st century! Whites no longer control everything, no race is superior. Never again will the white man control everything and I am happy to allow any race or culture into my country. Get over it.

For hypocrisy, human rights and liberalism take the cake. For complete pointlessness I'd have to say postmodernism. For sheer evil, ignorance, bloated romanticism and disregard for humanity, it's a tough tie between Nazism, Christianity and Islam.

one mans mind numbing stupidity is another mans brilliant enlightenment... the only difference in this case is the latter is correct and the former is a brainwashed sheep of the zog dominated status quo.

I'm not brain washed, merely logical. Racism over-simplifies problems in society. When you look at it as us vs them you are a few IQ points short of a moron :)

To the Neo-Nazi morons?
So..can you tell me why you LOST the ONLY war you have started...to a bunch of "dirty" Russians? How sad...and really...can you ALSO tell me why German voted 10% for Communism but 0% for National Socialism?

Looks like Germany REALLY wants the Nazis back you know...after the Nazis destroyed German history....haha...morons. Do Germany and America a favor, kill yourselvs.

I hate Nazis, they are the scum of the Earth. Good thing they seem to have moronic leaders. Like Hitler, who was a drug adict. Or like the US NAzi Party leaders, who get joy out of touching little boys...

Nazis :sniper:

I can not believe the incredible amount of sheer stupidity I'm seeing on this thread. Seriously, it's making me sick. How the FUCK can you name "Libertarianism" or some other small government, pro freedom movement when we have, in point of fact, seen civilizations who put people in ovens because a psychotic, malignant fuckhead told them to?! There is nothing worse than 30's and 40's era National Socialism, and I am honestly appalled by the amount of people who somehow think Libertarianism [despite my minor complaints with it] is actually worse.

The fact that some of you people think poor people starving is somehow worse than 15 million Jews being systematically baked like pizzas is a sickening testament to your collective idiocy. National Socialism, for any rational man, is a slam dunk, followed closely by Communism. I prefer Communism marginally because it at least pretends to appeal to my self-interest.

Natural Rights, Capitalism, and Rule by the Wise You can have capitalism and socialism in the same country. :)

Do they realize that 96% of all rapes against white women are committed by white men? No, I didn't. However, the reason for the 96% is probably because there are more whites than blacks in whatever country we're talking about. If there were equal numbers, 96% would probably become 50%.

at the behest of zog don't forget, that's actually the more important part Who the hell is Zog? Last time I checked it was some kind of Orky insult in Warhammer 40,000. :confused:

The fact that some of you people think poor people starving is somehow worse than 15 million Jews being systematically baked like pizzas is a sickening testament to your collective idiocy.
Agreed.
Of course, now someone is probably going to reply to you by saying something along the lines of "But at least Nazis kept the gays from destroying society hurr hurr hurr!"

I can not believe the incredible amount of sheer stupidity I'm seeing on this thread. Seriously, it's making me sick. How the FUCK can you name "Libertarianism" or some other small government, pro freedom movement when we have, in point of fact, seen civilizations who put people in ovens because a psychotic, malignant fuckhead told them to?! There is nothing worse than 30's and 40's era National Socialism, and I am honestly appalled by the amount of people who somehow think Libertarianism [despite my minor complaints with it] is actually worse.

The fact that some of you people think poor people starving is somehow worse than 15 million Jews being systematically baked like pizzas is a sickening testament to your collective idiocy. National Socialism, for any rational man, is a slam dunk, followed closely by Communism. I prefer Communism marginally because it at least pretends to appeal to my self-interest.

A national socialist government in no way requires genocide.

i agree with melkor up there! you lot are idiots! how can you say stuff like lebertarianism, and socialism, do you support wars and violence, racial discrimination and constricted rights?!?! You are as bad as hitler himself, just possibly without his vision or charisma! Get yourselves a life and find out about what works, what is right, and what shit is wrong!

Communism is a theory and is the final stage of human society; its is not an ideology.

A national socialist government in no way requires genocide.
Read it again, please. As usual you're not anywhere near interested in understanding my post. Note the presence of "30's and 40's era National Socialism" as a clarifier.

Nazism.

Considering they murdered 6,000,000 of my people, you can't blame me for hating them.

After that, anarchy, since that will lead to rule of the strong.

The fact that some of you people think poor people starving is somehow worse than 15 million Jews being systematically baked like pizzas is a sickening testament to your collective idiocy.

Nitpick: IIRC the death rate in Africa is somewhere around 9 million people a year (diseases, malnourishment etc). The overwhelming majority of these people could easily be saved *if* the rich people would decide to be less greedy and selfish, to take only what they need instead of what they want.

So technically we *are* willingly murdering those people. And the number of deaths is vastly greater than Hitler managed.

That said, I too am too selfish to reduce my lifestyle to the bare minimum. But at least I am not lying to myself..

Well, I think I'll just make a top 5-list
Fascism/Nazism ("We hate you if you don't live up to our ideal. If you comment how we (the leadership) don't live up to our ideal either, we'll kill you")
Anarchy (Survival of the fittest)
Capitalism (Survival of the fittest)
Extreme feminism ("We hate men" AND/OR "We're better than men" OR everybody is a feminist, the one who says they aren't are just too stupid to realize it")
Extreme isms in general

Extremism of any kind, it is divisive and erodes the ties that hold us together. Even our most firmly held positions should be tempered with pragmatism.

Nitpick: IIRC the death rate in Africa is somewhere around 9 million people a year (diseases, malnourishment etc). The overwhelming majority of these people could easily be saved *if* the rich people would decide to be less greedy and selfish, to take only what they need instead of what they want.

So technically we *are* willingly murdering those people. And the number of deaths is vastly greater than Hitler managed.

That said, I too am too selfish to reduce my lifestyle to the bare minimum. But at least I am not lying to myself..
Oh please. The deaths in Africa cannot [with a few notable examples] be compared with the deaths in Nazi Germany during WW2. African leaders, misguided as they most certainly are, are not actively trying to destroy their citizenry; the chief difference here is that their primary goal is wealth and Hitler's primary goal was the eradication of the Jewish people.

If I happened to be Jewish, I'd probably be very angry with you right now for trying to draw this utterly ridiculous comparison. Letting people starve because you can't be arsed to give them what they deserve is a mite different than actively endeavoring to bake your populace.

Just attach ism to a word you don’t like:

Prune-ism, sweaty naked man-ism

Communism, because it screws up nations, followed by Socialism, Anarchism, Leftism, Democracy, Environmentalism, Anti-Corporatism, Animal Rights, and generally anything of that nature that tends to screw up nations that follow them.

I can not believe the incredible amount of sheer stupidity I'm seeing on this thread. Seriously, it's making me sick. How the FUCK can you name "Libertarianism" or some other small government, pro freedom movement when we have, in point of fact, seen civilizations who put people in ovens because a psychotic, malignant fuckhead told them to?! There is nothing worse than 30's and 40's era National Socialism, and I am honestly appalled by the amount of people who somehow think Libertarianism [despite my minor complaints with it] is actually worse.
Wow, that's a lot of Italics. I know that Nazism is worse than Libertarianism. I just didn't say so because:

1) It's pretty much a given that Nazism is evil.
2) Everyone else was saying it.

Wow, that's a lot of Italics. I know that Nazism is worse than Libertarianism. I just didn't say so because:

1) It's pretty much a given that Nazism is evil.
Then you weren't really answering the question, then were you? :p

2) Everyone else was saying it.
And we all know how valuable "everyone else" is as a moral barometer
;)

Hard core liberalism.... because this evil strand lends much sympathy towards communism and radical islam.

Read it again, please. As usual you're not anywhere near interested in understanding my post. Note the presence of "30's and 40's era National Socialism" as a clarifier.

Well that's an entirely different question - National Socialism is an idealogy, 30s era National Socialism isn't.

Oh and btw, I did qualify my choice of Libertarianism by saying that it was pointless naming idealogies that promoted genocide etc as it's a given I hate those so my choice was out of those actually seriously suggested as a viable option on here.

Well that's an entirely different question - National Socialism is an idealogy, 30s era National Socialism isn't.
And how, pray tell, is an ideology that has been practiced not an ideology? 30's Era National Socialism refers to the National Socialist ideology that was practiced at the time in Germany. It's quite clearly an ideology, as evidenced by its existence and implimentation in a political context.

Non-30's era National Socialism, by contrast, hasn't really existed. You could make a case for modern Iraq, but they killed people they didn't like too. I can hear your fingers closing around those straws from here. Do yourself a favor and quit while you're ahead.

i hate catholic ideology the most, its all about blind faith and doesnt allow for individual thought or interpretation. the catholic church is fascist!

i love 1. Buddhist 2. Daoist (modern spelling, Taoist is from 40 years ago) 3. Hindu 4. Jain 5. Shinto (wabisabi rocks!)
i like ideology that uses dualism but without right, wrong or the idea of sin.

communism, socialism and facism come in at a tie.

Communism, because it screws up nations, followed by Socialism, Anarchism, Leftism, Democracy, Environmentalism, Anti-Corporatism, Animal Rights, and generally anything of that nature that tends to screw up nations that follow them.

and what, may i ask, is wrong with enviromentalism and animal rights?

Then you weren't really answering the question, then were you? :p

And we all know how valuable "everyone else" is as a moral barometer
;)
You misunderstand. I wasn't saying "libertarianism" because others were. I was avoiding saying Nazism because I thought it was needless to say so.

I do have a genuine dislike of Objectivism/Libertarianism.

Socialism, Democracy, Environmentalism, Animal Rights, and generally anything of that nature that tends to screw up nations that follow them.
I can think of many healthy nations that have been strongly influenced by these ideas. (Yes, I'm pulling out the Sweden card.)

and what, may i ask, is wrong with enviromentalism and animal rights?

Antidevelopmental idealistic beliefs that demand the end of modern convenience for stone age era 'harmony with nature'. As far as I'm concerned, neither one of them are ideas designed to benefit mankind, but are rather created to stop mankind's dominance over the planet. Its basically surrenderist, and demands everyone to do the same, likewise of whether they care about animal rights or environmentalism.

I do have a genuine dislike of Objectivism/Libertarianism
That's news to me! :p

Capitalism, fascism, Nazism are the worst.
Socialism, Communism and Anarchism are philosophies that are far too advanced for the average person but of course are by implication the very best.
:fluffle:

Antidevelopmental idealistic beliefs that demand the end of modern convenience for stone age era 'harmony with nature'. As far as I'm concerned, neither one of them are ideas designed to benefit mankind, but are rather created to stop mankind's dominance over the planet. Its basically surrenderist, and demands everyone to do the same, likewise of whether they care about animal rights or environmentalism.
I've never heard of any environmentalist that wants to return to the stone age.

By preserving the Earth in a decent state of affairs, environmentalism does benefit mankind. Dominance is not necessarily good for us.

It's only surrenderist if you regard nature as an enemy, which is bizarre.

Communism streaks miles ahead of the next nearest hated ideology- Christianity

Antidevelopmental idealistic beliefs that demand the end of modern convenience for stone age era 'harmony with nature'. As far as I'm concerned, neither one of them are ideas designed to benefit mankind, but are rather created to stop mankind's dominance over the planet. Its basically surrenderist, and demands everyone to do the same, likewise of whether they care about animal rights or environmentalism.

its entirely possible to continue scientific developement while preserving the enviroment and not abusing animals. we are advanced enough now that we can make electric cars, use cell cultures and computer simulations instead of animal testing, stop the destruction of the rain forests, not use animals in circuses, stop the barbaric practices of whaling, and more.
unless we seriously look at how we are draining this planet and its limited resouces and ability to support human growth we wont have a planet to live on any longer.
and what, by the way, do you mean by "modern conveniences", is this just another way of saying its okay to abuse the Earth if it makes our lives a little easier.

Communism streaks miles ahead of the next nearest hated ideology- Christianity
the commies hate christianity too...

the commies hate christianity too...

yeah good thing i hate em both

I've never heard of any environmentalist that wants to return to the stone age.
In fairness, Primitivism could probably be said to have some fairly serious roots in environmentalism, and they do suggest we return to the stone age. Still, as a blanket statement I suppose I can understand your challenge.

Hard core liberalism.... because this evil strand lends much sympathy towards communism and radical islam.

I cannot believe you are that ill in the head. I am far FAR Left, and I am not a fan of ANY faith, can you not even remember basic Marx?

Before you try to bash Liberals you might want to look at some basic liberal thought first. No sympathy for ANY faith...

And come on kid, it is "Islam" show it a little bit of respect.

You do know that just because we are anti-US Empire we are not "pro-terrorist"....I happen to be againt both sides. You take this stupid with us or againt us out look, you are as foolish as our "Great Leader" Bush II.

Antidevelopmental idealistic beliefs that demand the end of modern convenience for stone age era 'harmony with nature'. As far as I'm concerned, neither one of them are ideas designed to benefit mankind, but are rather created to stop mankind's dominance over the planet. Its basically surrenderist, and demands everyone to do the same, likewise of whether they care about animal rights or environmentalism.

The inverse of what you refer to as "surrenderist" is basically blind faith that technology will overcome every way in which we fuck up the environment that our economies are based on. Environmentalists believe that we don't have the right to benefit ourselves at the direct expense of future generations, which is the result of our system of infinite growth and lack of consideration for long-term effects.

I'd have to say fascism, though technocracy is not too far off, if only because I don't like the whole tech-worship thing.

For me it is any Idealogy put in practise in the real world as any good idealogy in theory becomes corrupted when it meets reality. An example is Communism which is Marxist theory put into practise, to make it work in Russia it had to be compromised by Lenin. This then just started the slippery slope to what we all now know as communism.

I hate any ideology that believes it and it alone is correct.

Communism, sozialism, nazism, anarchism, racism i think they are the worst ones

In fairness, Primitivism could probably be said to have some fairly serious roots in environmentalism, and they do suggest we return to the stone age. Still, as a blanket statement I suppose I can understand your challenge.
Then he should have condemned Primitivism, not environmentalism. Primitivists are in the extreme minority of the environmental movement.

Hard core liberalism.... because this evil strand lends much sympathy towards communism and radical islam.
Communism? That's a bit of a stretch.

As for the other issue, that's a complaint against moral/cultural relativism. Many liberals, but not all, are relativists, which means that they don't think that Western democracy is inherently superior to Islamic theocracy. Mind you, I am a leftist liberal and I do think that Western democracy is inherently superior to Islamic theocracy, so it's not a universal rule.

I hate any ideology that believes it and it alone is correct.
In Soviet Russia, the Ideology believes in you!

Seriously, ideologies don't "believe" anything, they are the belief. Almost any ideology can be said to believe it and it alone is correct, depending on the individual who is advocating it.

For example, I think that democratic socialism is inherently superior to all other ideologies. This is mainly based on the fact that it has worked out better than any other ideology when it has been applied to reality. There are some democratic socialists who may agree with me on most matters of policy, but take a more relativist attitude towards other ideologies.

What's so wrong with Socialism?

Anyways... I'd have to say Facism for me.

I hate any ideology that believes it and it alone is correct.
You mean all of them?

I've noticed many people putting down religions among their least favourite ideologies. This is incorrect. Religions are not ideologies because they are not inherently political. Some political ideologies are based on religion, such as Islamism and Zionism, but religions themselves are not ideologies.

I also don't consider racism to be an ideology, because it is not political.

I've noticed many people putting down religions among their least favourite ideologies. This is incorrect. Religions are not ideologies because they are not inherently political. Some political ideologies are based on religion, such as Islamism and Zionism, but religions themselves are not ideologies.

I also don't consider racism to be an ideology, because it is not political.
I've seen some mind-boggling entries too. I think my favorite so far is "Reaganomics," which isn't really so much an ideology as it is an economic theory. "Racism" is another funny one.

islam. Psychotic stone-age freaks.

I know someone, a Muslim, who just happens to be one of the most tolerant, open-minded, intelligent and educated people you could imagine. He's currently doing a doctoral thesis.

An abyss seperates the two of you. From your comment, I can say only that his intelligence is so vastly superior to yours that it would be impossible for you to fathom. Your narrow-minded, bigoted, and above all simplistic views make me pity you.

I can not believe the incredible amount of sheer stupidity I'm seeing on this thread. Seriously, it's making me sick.

I almost agree with you there. The difference being that it no longer surprises me.

This thread is an example of comic genius, though. Instead of seperate threads for imbeciles lashing out at one another with ill thought-out arguments, we get an absolute mish-mash of beliefs and prejudices tearing into one another all at the same time. It's brilliant!

Anyway... To answer the thread's question, I don't "hate" any ideology. Hatred is inherently irrational, and I dislike irrationality. I also dislike extreme selfishness, people who can't think for themselves, people who "morally" oppose things which harm no-one, and, in general, what I've come to describe as "aggressively asserted wilful ignorance". Which appears to plague many participants in this thread.

What's so wrong with Socialism?
Everyone seems to be under the mistaken impression that socialism is an authoritarian ideology that confiscates people's property and allows them no freedom whatsoever. As a matter of fact, leftism is moderate socialist. Does that make liberals evil? Most NSers are liberal.

Everyone seems to be under the mistaken impression that socialism is an authoritarian ideology that confiscates people's property and allows them no freedom whatsoever. As a matter of fact, leftism is moderate socialist. Does that make liberals evil? Most NSers are liberal.

Right. I'll stop beleiving that when you explain HOW to implement a socialist state WITHOUT confiscating private property. And yes if you tax it away I'll count that as confiscating it.

Right. I'll stop beleiving that when you explain HOW to implement a socialist state WITHOUT confiscating private property. And yes if you tax it away I'll count that as confiscating it.

In a Socialist revolution not ALL private is taken. Just the people who have alot like large land holdings and large scale means of production.

Also every country taxes, are they all socialist?

Read 'without confiscating' and tell me where you came up with 'not all confiscated'.

I've seen some mind-boggling entries too. I think my favorite so far is "Reaganomics," which isn't really so much an ideology as it is an economic theory. "Racism" is another funny one.

Is there any economic theory that is not either an ideology, or seriously based on ideology? The problems of actually observing economic processes in the real world mean that any economic theory requires a hell of a lot of assumptions.

No one, really. All ideologies have their strong points and their weak points.

I suppose if I *must* choose, it'll be individualism.

Ignorant Escapism.
im an escapist! and i really dont like the following: communism, 21st century feminism, and liberaterianism

the commies hate christianity too...

And ironically enough the description of Christian heaven is pretty close (but not entirely identical) to that of a communist state...

And to the people that think that religions are not an ideology:

i·de·ol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-l-j, d-)
n. pl. i·de·ol·o·gies
1. The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture.
2. A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system.

So it definately qualifies. Furthermore the number of political parties in the world that use a holy book as basis for their party programme is *vast*...

Nazi and is variation like the geniocratie of Rael...

Nazism/Fascism closely followed by Capitalism, Feudalism, Slavery, Militarism, Authoritarianism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche, Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Liberalism and many more.

Nazism/Fascism closely followed by Capitalism, Feudalism, Slavery, Militarism, Authoritarianism, Stalinism, Maoism, Juche, Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Liberalism and many more.
Jesus Christ. "Racism" is not an ideology, it's a cultural construct. Neither is "Sexism" "Homophobia" or "Slavery."

Racism, sexism, homophobia and slavery are constructs of an ideology, not the ideology itself. I'm beginning to wonder if some of you people know what "ideology" means. Some of these are mind-bogglingly stupid entries.

To put it plainly, not every "-ism" is an ideology.

Jesus Christ. "Racism" is not an ideology, it's a cultural construct. Neither is "Sexism" "Homophobia" or "Slavery."

Racism, sexism, homophobia and slavery are constructs of an ideology, not the ideology itself. I'm beginning to wonder if some of you people know what "ideology" means. Some of these are mind-bogglingly stupid entries.

To put it plainly, not every "-ism" is an ideology.

So we could conclude that you hate the ideology of stupidism? ;)

Ismism.

Communism, Capitalism, Nazism, Marxism, Maoism, Fascism, Judaism, Christianism, Islam, Confusionism, Budhism, ....All these philosophies...they all want to benefit humanity...they all want to make us better...

and they all have a lot of "good"...none of them is perfect...

thanks to man-made propaganda...we are mostly aware about the few flaws they have.

*look at topic title*
Anti-choice ideologies, whether they regard issues like sexuality, abortion, economics, religion, or whathaveyou.

So we could conclude that you hate the ideology of stupidism? ;)
You could say that, yes.

The ideology of Ignorance really pisses me off...

I know someone, a Muslim, who just happens to be one of the most tolerant, open-minded, intelligent and educated people you could imagine. He's currently doing a doctoral thesis.

An abyss seperates the two of you. From your comment, I can say only that his intelligence is so vastly superior to yours that it would be impossible for you to fathom. Your narrow-minded, bigoted, and above all simplistic views make me pity you.
Pity?
All i can think to give him is a swift K.I.T.A.
Shalom

Communism and its handmaiden, socialism.

And ironically enough the description of Christian heaven is pretty close (but not entirely identical) to that of a communist state...

And to the people that think that religions are not an ideology:

i·de·ol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-l-j, d-)
n. pl. i·de·ol·o·gies
1. The body of ideas reflecting the social needs and aspirations of an individual, group, class, or culture.
2. A set of doctrines or beliefs that form the basis of a political, economic, or other system.

So it definately qualifies. Furthermore the number of political parties in the world that use a holy book as basis for their party programme is *vast*...
Religion is a set of spiritual beliefs. It does not necessarily form the basis of law.

Political parties which base their platforms on holy books tend to advocate religion-based ideologies, not the religion itself. For example, jihadism, Zionism.

Anti-choice ideologies, whether they regard issues like sexuality, abortion, economics, religion, or whathaveyou.
Almost any ideology can be viewed as anti-choice depending on your viewpoint.

To the pro-life activist, the foetus is denied the freedom to live. Do you think socialists view capitalism as an ideology of freedom and choice?

Basically, any group that takes itself too far, and those that hate a group just because it exists. I wish that people would just allow equality to be something that actually exists, rather than a dream.