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"Canadians are like Americans"

The Chinese Republics
08-10-2005, 06:04
http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=02479c28-0097-402c-ada7-e35623a8121a

Canucks are like Americans: study

Sheryl Ubelacker
Canadian Press

Friday, October 07, 2005

TORONTO -- Ask any Canadian to define the typical Canuck and among the descriptions proffered is sure to be: "We're not like Americans."

After all, Americans are brash, arrogant and aggressive. We Canadians, on the other hand, are polite, modest and somewhat introverted.

We're as different from our neighbours to the south as, well, beavers are from bald eagles.

Aren't we?

Not according to a study of national personalities, which found that this time-honoured perception of our oh-so-unique Canadian psyche -- and other cultures' stereotypes of themselves -- are in fact just so much hooey.

"These stereotypes are as Canadians see themselves and Americans as they see themselves," said Robert McCrae of the U.S. National Institute on Aging, a principal investigator of the study on national personalities around the world.

"Canadians think they're extremely agreeable; the Americans think they're very disagreeable," he said. "Canadians believe that they're very calm and not irritable, very even-tempered, whereas Americans think they're more anxious and hostile.

"The fact is Canadians and Americans have almost identical average personality traits."

In a measure of five main areas of personality, covering a total of 30 traits, Canadians and their U.S. cousins fell roughly in the middle. Not only that, but they weren't all that different from other cultures around the globe, researchers found.

The study, published in the latest issue of Science, collected data through personality questionnaires given to thousands of people living in 49 countries.

Over and over, stereotypes about different nationalities emerged, but all were left wanting.

"These are very interesting sociological phenomena," McCrae said. "They get made into myths and they turn up in literature and in songs and in jokes and kind of have a life of their own."

Take the Brits, for example, whose national character is typically viewed as reserved and stalwart.

"The English showed the worst agreement in the entire set between the stereotype and the measured personality," said McCrae. "The stereotype of the English is that they're very reserved, whereas as in fact English are extroverts.

"And English think that they're relatively conventional and closed, but compared to most people in the world, they're pretty open to experience."

Germany was one example in which at least part of the stereotype matched reality, he said. "Germans think that they're conscientious and industrious and they measured out as conscientious and industrious."

Argentines believe they're a nation of disagreeable folk, and that reputation is pervasive throughout Latin America. But Argentines scored as average on the agreeableness scale.

McCrae noted that one Canadian researcher, upon seeing the results, said: " `Well, the Canadians are not going to like this story, because they really want to believe that they are much nicer than Americans.'

"I think that shows that at least one of the functions that stereotypes serve is to assert a national identity. We want to distinguish ourselves from Americans, so we'll invent some kind of difference and exaggerate it, and in this case it has to do with things like agreeableness," he said of the so-called Canadian identity.

Paul Trapnell, a professor of psychology at the University of Winnipeg, agreed that claiming particular national character traits can support certain motives: differentiating a population from other cultures and building its self-esteem.

"So we'll try to see ourselves as different from Americans and the differences we'll latch onto are the differences that also serve our desire to think good about ourselves," said Trapnell, one of three Canadian researchers who contributed data to the study.

What he found interesting was how homogenous the notion of the "typical Canuck" was across the country.

"The views that persons in Vancouver have about Canadians are very similar to the views that Nova Scotians have about Canadians," Trapnell said. "So we do possess a somewhat loosely organized but shared perception of what our national character is like, even though that shared perception doesn't turn out to be a real one."

What another country does on the world stage or on home soil may also contribute to national stereotypes, suggested psychologist Delroy Paulhus of the University of British Columbia, who also took part in the study.

"Canadians confuse typical Americans with their country's foreign policy, which seems belligerent," Paulhus said by e-mail. "Or Canadians extrapolate the higher rate of crime in the U.S. to infer typical character."

Whatever the reasons, typecasting an entire people can be dangerous, the authors say, leading to prejudice, discrimination and persecution.

"Clearly it tells us that we need to be very cautious about making generalizations about groups of people, any kind of groups of people," McCrae said. "Because often those generalizations are unfounded.

"Instead, what we have to do is remind ourselves that we're dealing with individuals, and regardless of what their nationality or their age or their gender, we should look at their personality as it is in themselves."

I'm willing to admit that this is so true. :(

Hey Americans, I'm your long lost brother! :D
Greater Valia
08-10-2005, 06:09
Hey Americans, I'm your long lost brother! :D

Oh lord I hope not.
La Terra di Libertas
08-10-2005, 06:09
Of course we are. Canadians that try and make us look so great and mighty are ignorant, we're the same damn thing. Now people will say we're more peaceful of bullshit like that but we aren't, my god, if you go into western canada, we're a bunch of gun-lovin', moon shine drinking hill billies and we're damn proud of it :) !
Utopiapolis
08-10-2005, 06:13
A study to proof that Canadians are like Americans.

I hate this wasteful studies. You don't need to study Canadians, solve a cure for AIDS Einstein.

Of corse Canadians are like Americans, it's common sense. Canada is America Junior remember. What a waste of tax money. :mad:
Americai
08-10-2005, 08:40
To be fair, these guys are probably sociologist instead of physicians. They probably couldn't cure a horny woman.
The Psyker
08-10-2005, 08:46
To be fair, these guys are probably sociologist instead of physicians. They probably couldn't cure a horny woman.
Oh I don't know they've probly done a number of studies on the art of pitching woo ;)
Terrorist Cakes
08-10-2005, 08:58
People are people, no matter where they live. Americans just come of looking more paranoid and violent for two reasons: the media, and the government.
But one thing that doesn't make sense is why america's murder rate is so much higher than canada's. If the people are alike, shouldn't their actions be alike too?
The Chinese Republics
08-10-2005, 09:04
People are people, no matter where they live. Americans just come of looking more paranoid and violent for two reasons: the media, and the government.
But one thing that doesn't make sense is why america's murder rate is so much higher than canada's. If the people are alike, shouldn't their actions be alike too?
*Plays music: Green Day - American Idiot

To be fair, these guys are probably sociologist instead of physicians. They probably couldn't cure a horny woman. :D :D :D
Cheese penguins
08-10-2005, 09:11
bloooody waste of money studying a bunch of crap.
The Chinese Republics
08-10-2005, 09:13
hope it's not funded by taxpayer's money
A Flintoff
08-10-2005, 09:18
Hahaha!

This is what I have always said. There was no need to conduct a study to "find" this, you could have just asked someone from the UK.

This will likely annoy some canadians however; especially several on this board who only a few weeks ago got pretty snippy when I pointed out to them that they weren't "really european", and in fact the difference between them and most americans is virtually non-existent. (They even sound the same pretty much, apart from the french ones).

I also find canadians to be extremely jingoistic. They have that in common with the US too.
BackwoodsSquatches
08-10-2005, 09:27
"(A Canadian is) Like an American, with less guns."
-Dave Foley, Kids in the Hall.

Also, its NOT BACON...that...is HAM.
New fiania
08-10-2005, 09:32
i hate sterotyping every one says my country are a load of drunks(ireland) but were one of the richest civilised countrys in europe ans one difference between canada and america is,is that canada doesn't think were leprachauns!
Spartiala
08-10-2005, 09:40
This will likely annoy some canadians however; especially several on this board who only a few weeks ago got pretty snippy when I pointed out to them that they weren't "really european

Yeah, the great thing about Canada is that we usually just do what the US does, except for when we are feeling particularly patriotic, at which point we do what western Europe does. That's pretty funny that you had to actually remind people that Canada is not part of Europe.
A Flintoff
08-10-2005, 09:50
Yeah, the great thing about Canada is that we usually just do what the US does, except for when we are feeling particularly patriotic, at which point we do what western Europe does. That's pretty funny that you had to actually remind people that Canada is not part of Europe.

It was fairly surreal. Especially when you consider that the UK is sort of a outlier as far as western europe is concerned, and barely makes it in, never mind Canada.

Then they posted tonnes of stuff about Canada "saving" britian during WWII. It was at that point I concluded that the jingoism rumours were true.
New Fuglies
08-10-2005, 10:12
Then they posted tonnes of stuff about Canada "saving" britian during WWII. It was at that point I concluded that the jingoism rumours were true.

Actually, it was the Japanese in an indirect sort of way. ;)
Splurvia
08-10-2005, 10:18
A home for people in distress

A haven for liberal leaders

A place that just almost works in soicalistisc ideas

A nation of four cultures ( french , Maritime, westernern, British )

A home of the best hockey in the world !

A Vacation spot from May to October