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Fellow Christians, we know who the ANTICHRIST is...

Passivocalia
07-10-2005, 07:27
Hello there; sorry about all those nasty caps. This is the anal retentive part of me speaking out. Fellow Christians:

((no mentioning of the word "antichrist" whatsoever))

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming, so now many antichrists have appeared.

Who is the liar? Whoever denies the that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist. No one who denies the Son has the Father, but whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well.

This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belong to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that, as you heard, is to come, but in fact is already in the world.

Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh; such is the deceitful one and the antichrist.

And there we have it. "Antichrists" are not the same as the "Beast" or his false prophet that are mentioned in Revelation. An antichrist is simply anyone who denies Jesus' divinity and sole saving power; we need to be reminded that all love flows from Him.

George W. Bush, therefore, is not an antichrist. Whether he's the beast or not is a completely different thread... ;)

Please no bashing or trolling. God bless, all!
Keruvalia
07-10-2005, 07:43
So .. it's NationStates? Sweet ... rock on, Max!
Fass
07-10-2005, 07:48
So .. it's NationStates? Sweet ... rock on, Max!

What did you expect? Max is after all an antipode.
The Noble Men
07-10-2005, 07:57
So I'm the Anti-Christ? Sweet!
Keruvalia
07-10-2005, 08:03
What did you expect? Max is after all an antipode.

I knew it! Actually, Max was born with 666 on his subcranium.

Max had a babysitter who dived off a roof and said, "It's all for Nationstates, Max! It's all for Nationstates!!"

Ya'll may not believe me,, but it's true.

Then ... later ... Max ran for President ... I voted for him. If you didn't, your face gets burned.
The Parkus Empire
07-10-2005, 09:31
HOW DARE YOU?!?!??!?!??! The wonderful man who created this beutiful...nation thingy.........HOW COULD YOU?!?!??!?
De Kempen
07-10-2005, 09:39
I always believed that the antichrist was just marilyn manson
Xiphosia
07-10-2005, 09:45
I always believed that the antichrist was just marilyn manson

Seconded, Didn't the he-she sacrafice kittens on stage at one of his-her concerts..? :(
Zero Six Three
07-10-2005, 09:48
I always believed that the antichrist was just marilyn manson
manson may have sold his soul but it was to the all mighty dollar, not no cowardly, subterranean goat...
LazyHippies
07-10-2005, 09:54
The definition of the word antichrist has changed over time, just like the definition for many other words. Nowadays when people use the term antichrist, they are generally reffering to the false prophet spoken of in Revelations who will trick humanity into accepting the mark of the beast.
Praetoria Novus
07-10-2005, 10:09
Christians always make me laugh...

Since I'm an atheist and I don't believe in their fairytales I am an "antichrist" but a man who invaded another nation, and lied to do it, is fine?
Psychotic Military
07-10-2005, 10:12
The antichrist is here and is walking the planet, this is no secret. The difficult task amongst all the religions is to lacate him, as he has defined all forms of location, yet within the inner circles at Mount Athos it has been rumoured that they have pin pointed his location but cannot move against him, as it is well known that the humans beings must deny him the kingdom wich he seeks to controll. This will be our most feared battle. Remeber that when irrational becomes rational it is the final point when all nations, creed, colour and religion will unite to promote an organization which will promote peace and harmony across the globe, this is the moment in our human existence were he will present himself and be elected by the majority of the world popullation.
Praetoria Novus
07-10-2005, 10:14
when all nations, creed, colour and religion will unite to promote an organization which will promote peace and harmony across the globe, this is the moment in our human existence were he will present himself and be elected by the majority of the world popullation.

I always knew the UN was a satanic plot... :headbang:
De Kempen
07-10-2005, 10:18
Poor little Anti C.

First get bullied at school, now has all nutso's on his back...

I don't think Jesus C. would be happy with these practices
Psychotic Military
07-10-2005, 10:19
My friend the United Nations is a child compared to the organization wich should come to existence in aroun 5 years, therefore we all must wait and be prepared.
Mekonia
07-10-2005, 11:38
So I'm the Anti-Christ? Sweet!


Well there's a thing to tell the grand kids!
Mekonia
07-10-2005, 11:40
Actually the best looking anti christ was gabreil byrne hmmm in end of days..Noble men if you look like that can I have your number???
Praetoria Novus
07-10-2005, 12:22
My friend the United Nations is a child compared to the organization wich should come to existence in aroun 5 years, therefore we all must wait and be prepared.
Five years eh? Better start stocking up on the firearms and bibles then.

You do realise though that people have been saying the world will end from long before your religion even existed right?
Luporum
07-10-2005, 15:19
Max had a babysitter who dived off a roof and said, "It's all for Nationstates, Max! It's all for Nationstates!!".

haha you get a cookie for that reference.
Czardas
07-10-2005, 15:24
Poor little Anti C.

First get bullied at school, now has all nutso's on his back...

I don't think Jesus C. would be happy with these practices
Lol, yeah, he'd probably forgive Satan if he killed his whole family... Forgiveness is for idealists!
Czardas
07-10-2005, 15:25
This means I'm also the Antichrist.... well, I always knew that anyway, lol... :p
Sonaj
07-10-2005, 15:28
manson may have sold his soul but it was to the all mighty dollar, not no cowardly, subterranean goat...
So... Satan is (would be) a coward? How is that?
And would that be any better than the sadistic things god have (would have/allegedy have) done? I'm thinking about the Egypt-incident (the Pharao let the Israelites go, then god hardened the Pharao's heart, and did it over and over and over again, letting god torment people) and the ten commandments (an allpowerful, flawless being reates man in his image, then he/she/it forbids humans to do what they can, but god can do whatever he/she/it likes, such as revenge).

Sorry if you consider this flaming, but these two incidents have always disturbed me in christianity. A merciful god that kills the firstborn children of an entire country? Doesn't sound very merciful to me...
Passivocalia
07-10-2005, 15:50
So... Satan is (would be) a coward? How is that?
And would that be any better than the sadistic things god have (would have/allegedy have) done? I'm thinking about the Egypt-incident (the Pharao let the Israelites go, then god hardened the Pharao's heart, and did it over and over and over again, letting god torment people)

Some have interpreted this as God displaying his power, along with a combination of wrath (for Egypt) and mercy (for Israel), perhaps showing the distinction between those who are for Him and those who work contrary to His wishes.

Some actually interpret the "hardened Pharoah's heart" bit to mean that Pharoah just got mad at God. For instance, if I "piss someone off" and "make them act like a jerk", I'm not actually forcing them to do any of these things; it's just their reaction to me.

This is just me rambling, of course.

and the ten commandments (an allpowerful, flawless being reates man in his image, then he/she/it forbids humans to do what they can, but god can do whatever he/she/it likes, such as revenge).

But the humans are better people for living the way God wants them to EVEN WHEN they have the ability and perhaps even inclination to do otherwise. Those that make it through are better (arguably, anyway) than the mindless robots that would result from an alternative means.

And no, you're not flaming at all.
Passivocalia
07-10-2005, 16:00
The definition of the word antichrist has changed over time, just like the definition for many other words. Nowadays when people use the term antichrist, they are generally reffering to the false prophet spoken of in Revelations who will trick humanity into accepting the mark of the beast.

Very true.

The semantics part of me, the part that created the "Grammatically Sound Republic" of Passivocalia, likes to distintinguish words whenever possible. A lot of people who throw around the word "Antichrist" are strict fundamentalists, though, so they'd probably care to know where it shows up in the Bible. I just get tired of takes like Left Behind sometimes, you know?

"But one thing doesn't make sense. Nicolai Carpathia seems to be the Antichrist, but he's from Romania. The Bible always indicated that the Antichrist would come from somewhere in Western Europe like Italy, Greece, or Turkey."

"Carpathia actually has ancestry from Italy."

"Oh, that makes sense then."

Uhhh. But, yes. I'm also the type of Christian who gets more irked by seeing "2005 AD" than I do by seeing "2005 CE". The reason? Anno Domini means "in the year of our Lord", so it should be "in the year of our Lord 2005", or "AD 2005", with the letters before the numbers.

But, there is the whole thing about Latin being rearrangable in sentences, so that probably shouldn't bother me.
Sock-topia
07-10-2005, 16:08
Darn, I was kind of hoping you would say it was Fass. ._.[/sarcasm]
Germanian Babylon
07-10-2005, 16:12
I had a dream a few months back where a voice that was neither man nor woman said "The Christchild is born. You are the Antichrist."

I'm just waiting for some awesome powers to kick in and then I'll be on my way to conquering.
Wild Craziness
07-10-2005, 16:25
How can you say that anyone who believes in a religion other than yours is an antichris or going to hell? If you expect people worshipping older religions to change so readily, why aren't Christians expected to change with the times?
Great Bled
07-10-2005, 16:29
For anyone who's read "Angels and Demons": The antichrist should be a great leader who denies religion. Someone like Einstein or Hawking (or someone who hasn't been born yet). God relies on faith (aka belief without proof). These people spent their lives trying to find proof. Does the bible state specificaly that the antichrist is evil?
Czardas
07-10-2005, 16:41
I had a dream a few months back where a voice that was neither man nor woman said "The Christchild is born. You are the Antichrist."

I'm just waiting for some awesome powers to kick in and then I'll be on my way to conquering.
If you manage to explain some of my dreams, I might grant you some "awesome powers".

For example, once I was standing on top of a tall mountain holding a cross. The mountain was far taller than any earthly one, so high that I could see the highest clouds far below, but yet I could still breathe. I was holding the cross in my left hand, with the end pointing down towards the clouds, and I realized that it was made of fire; but it did not burn my hand. I threw it down and the mountain caught fire, with rings of flames dancing around me; yet I was not burned. Meanwhile I heard a voice shouting in Aramaic, neither man nor woman, but disembodied, calling out, "I have weighed the sins of humanity, and they are heavier than a feather! Destroy, my birds, from the deeps of the ocean, bring out the monsters to drive reason from the one who walks the narrow bridge between two deaths!" Looking up, I saw 144 eagles bearing twigs in their mouths descending from the sky. They all alighted atop my head and shoulders, and I took the 144 twigs, lit them in the fire, and hurled them... and woke up to discover that I had sleepwalked from my bed all the way out of the house, and back inside all the furniture and everything had fallen out of place and broken.

The funny thing is, I don't even speak Aramaic...
Germanian Babylon
07-10-2005, 16:42
For anyone who's read "Angels and Demons": The antichrist should be a great leader who denies religion. Someone like Einstein or Hawking (or someone who hasn't been born yet). God relies on faith (aka belief without proof). These people spent their lives trying to find proof. Does the bible state specificaly that the antichrist is evil?

According to Christianity, he's supposed to be "evil," the antithesis of Christian doctrine. Because, you know, if it's not Christian, IT IS TEH WORK OF TEH SATAN OMGz!!!111!11 PRAYZ JEEEZUS!!1!one
Germanian Babylon
07-10-2005, 16:43
If you manage to explain some of my dreams, I might grant you some "awesome powers".

For example, once I was standing on top of a tall mountain holding a cross. The mountain was far taller than any earthly one, so high that I could see the highest clouds far below, but yet I could still breathe. I was holding the cross in my left hand, with the end pointing down towards the clouds, and I realized that it was made of fire; but it did not burn my hand. I threw it down and the mountain caught fire, with rings of flames dancing around me; yet I was not burned. Meanwhile I heard a voice shouting in Aramaic, neither man nor woman, but disembodied, calling out, "I have weighed the sins of humanity, and they are heavier than a feather! Destroy, my birds, from the deeps of the ocean, bring out the monsters to drive reason from the one who walks the narrow bridge between two deaths!" Looking up, I saw 144 eagles bearing twigs in their mouths descending from the sky. They all alighted atop my head and shoulders, and I took the 144 twigs, lit them in the fire, and hurled them... and woke up to discover that I had sleepwalked from my bed all the way out of the house, and back inside all the furniture and everything had fallen out of place and broken.

The funny thing is, I don't even speak Aramaic...

Hello, Rider of the Pale Horse!
Smunkeeville
07-10-2005, 16:46
For anyone who's read "Angels and Demons": The antichrist should be a great leader who denies religion. Someone like Einstein or Hawking (or someone who hasn't been born yet). God relies on faith (aka belief without proof). These people spent their lives trying to find proof. Does the bible state specificaly that the antichrist is evil?
yes the antichrist is evil. there are many antichrists. The beast and the antichrists are different. When most people talk about the 'antichrist' they really mean the beast.

The conversation about the beast in Revelation is highly symbolic, and hard to follow without a lot of study. Most of it makes no sense whatsoever at face value.
Great Bled
07-10-2005, 16:49
According to Christianity, he's supposed to be "evil," the antithesis of Christian doctrine. Because, you know, if it's not Christian, IT IS TEH WORK OF TEH SATAN OMGz!!!111!11 PRAYZ JEEEZUS!!1!one


The church is based on faith, Science is base on proof. But is science evil?
Czardas
07-10-2005, 16:59
Hello, Rider of the Pale Horse!
I don't keep up with the mythology, what's that?
Germanian Babylon
07-10-2005, 17:09
I don't keep up with the mythology, what's that?

Death. We just have to find War and Famine and we're set.
Czardas
07-10-2005, 17:22
Death. We just have to find War and Famine and we're set.
Cool, I'm Death! W00t! :D

*goes off and drags people away in sack to be delivered up to horrendous tortures*
Liskeinland
07-10-2005, 17:28
Death. We just have to find War and Famine and we're set. Don't forget Pestilence. I think I have his blessing… I am very resistant to disease… I will be a lieutenant in his deathly armies!

To war, Czardas!
Pacificaenia
07-10-2005, 17:44
So now we have the Four Horsemen of the Apoclypse ala NS? We're all doomed! :eek:
Czardas
07-10-2005, 17:47
Don't forget Pestilence. I think I have his blessing… I am very resistant to disease… I will be a lieutenant in his deathly armies!

To war, Czardas!
Me too... but since I'm Death, I'm immortal anyway, so...

We are ready for War!!!

" The Four Horsemen prepared for their last ride. Galloping solemnly across fields, marshes, and hills, all the way in silence, they continued on towards the distant, towering Mountain where God and his angels resided. It was a day's ride to the mountain.

God would be dead by the dawn of the second day. "
Hurdegaryp
07-10-2005, 18:02
Death. We just have to find War and Famine and we're set.
Don't forget the Fifth Horseman. You know, from before they became famous.
Nyuujaku
07-10-2005, 18:03
Christians always make me laugh...

Since I'm an atheist and I don't believe in their fairytales I am an "antichrist" but a man who invaded another nation, and lied to do it, is fine?
As a Christian myself, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment ("fairy tales" aside ;)). Fundies and false banner-wavers do more damage from within than anyone could ever do from the outside.
Liskeinland
07-10-2005, 18:11
Don't forget the Fifth Horseman. You know, from before they became famous. I'll take a look at the milkman next time he drops in. Of course, that would involve getting up early AND awake…
Czardas
07-10-2005, 18:18
Don't forget the Fifth Horseman. You know, from before they became famous.
Lol, I'll ask someone in my region to do that...

(Any hopefuls, move to Athar! Now!)
Andaluciae
07-10-2005, 18:37
Oooh! Oooh!

I know!

It's:

Ronald Wilson Reagan
---6-----6------6

Learned that one from the history channel!
Letila
07-10-2005, 18:56
I thought Nietzsche was the antichrist.
Xiphosia
07-10-2005, 20:05
All your followers are belong to us
Belief is waning
make your time

:p
Luporum
07-10-2005, 20:34
Fenrir > Antichrist
Hoos Bandoland
07-10-2005, 20:45
I always believed that the antichrist was just marilyn manson

And I thought it was Marilyn Mason (my former boss, LOL). :p
Xiphosia
07-10-2005, 20:48
Fenrir > Antichrist

Fenrir = Only thing that made HBP barable.
China3
07-10-2005, 20:50
So I'm the Anti-Christ? Sweet!



same:D:D
Children of Lucifer
07-10-2005, 21:06
its all aload of Babylon.
Xiphosia
07-10-2005, 21:18
its all aload of Babylon.

Ok
_________________________
Part II Saga of the Anti-Christ

God: Main screen turn on!
Me: All your supporters belong to sin
God: *gawk*
Me: Make your time....bwahahaha * screen fades into static.
Zilam
07-10-2005, 22:00
Hello there; sorry about all those nasty caps. This is the anal retentive part of me speaking out. Fellow Christians:

And there we have it. "Antichrists" are not the same as the "Beast" or his false prophet that are mentioned in Revelation. An antichrist is simply anyone who denies Jesus' divinity and sole saving power; we need to be reminded that all love flows from Him.

George W. Bush, therefore, is not an antichrist. Whether he's the beast or not is a completely different thread... ;)

Please no bashing or trolling. God bless, all!


"You believe in God, you do good; Behold the demons beleive in God and they tremble" James 2:19 (paraphrased)
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothin, but inwardly are ravening wolves"Matt. 7:15
And also
"Because a man sayeth lord, lord; does not mean he will enter into heaven"
"every knee will bow and every tongue will confess"
So what i am saying is that the antichrist even the devil will know of the divinity of Christ and heck prolly will even use it to get to power then turn on it later. Watch out for those wold in sheep's clothing saying they are of the lord...Look at their works and see their fruit before discrediting anything./..anyhow www.bushisantichrist.com good place to check out..this guy gives substantial proof on why Bush IS the anti-christ

(sorry for any spelling mistakes :) )