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Last night's Lost (spoilers)

Willamena
06-10-2005, 15:33
Note: This is about Second season shows, so if you are still on the first season, "look away..."

I went to bed annoyed and woke up actually angry about last night's LOST episode. Then I tried to figure out why it upset me so. Without giving away huge spoilers, the episode was a blatant analogy of religion with Locke representing the religious man, accepting all the weirdness of the island on faith, and Jack representing the atheist, the man of science who wants to understand it rationally. The episode had Jack eventually giving in to blind faith. I was annoyed because the motivation for what Jack, and even Locke, did made no sense to me.

When I thought about it a bit, I realised that in the context of the analogy, it had Jack being the type of atheist who never gave religion much thought, never had any reason to consider going near it, suddenly accepting it to fall in line with the others. I felt he should have stuck to his guns (which is an amusing metaphor in itself because he was waving a gun around most of the episode). I was incredulous that the writers would think us so stupid as to believe Jack would just change his belief like that. Then it occured to me that what Jack did was a kindness to Locke, letting him have his blind faith, but not buying into it himself. But that's no kindness at all, and Jack would (should) know that. It'll just make things worse in the long run.

So I'm still disappointed, but hoping the story gets better next week.
Ashmoria
06-10-2005, 15:41
ill have to think about that religion thing. i just saw it as jack giving a tiny bit of support to a man who had done some pretty amazing things and needed it so much

now if it continues with jack taking shifts with locke im gonna have a real hard time with it. the premise is stupid and the "tape" sure did make it look like a sick psychological experiment.
The South Islands
06-10-2005, 15:47
I could have cared less about the internal struggles of Jack. I just wanted to see what would happen if the timer ran out.

Oh, and was I the only one that was a bit freaked out by that 1980's video?
[NS]Simonist
06-10-2005, 15:53
I didn't so much look at it from that standpoint (though I'll say I totally see where you're coming from with it), more that Jack was attempting to keep this severely broken, unstable man from completely losing it. I'm by no means partial to either Jack or Locke (actually.....I only watch the show because it's the ONE time during the week that my entire "crowd" gets together in a private atmosphere -- I watch it for Charlie), but I thought that in part both of their parts were a bit of bull. Locke has NEVER before struck me as a terribly emotional guy, and here he was sticking everything back to this "leap of faith" crap his girlfriend once told him, but at the same time I think most of Jack's tumoil stemmed more from his stubborness concerning, uh....what's-his-face, the Scottish (right?) guy.

However, I nearly wet myself with excitement for Michelle Rodriguez. She's a favourite female hardass of mine.
[NS]Simonist
06-10-2005, 15:54
I could have cared less about the internal struggles of Jack. I just wanted to see what would happen if the timer ran out.

Oh, and was I the only one that was a bit freaked out by that 1980's video?
Gah, forgot to mention the video in my post.....

I just want to know what was said in that last part that appeared to be TOTALLY cut out! But yeah, it freaked out several other people watching it with me, and we were all like "No! What the hell is 'the incident'?! Just tell us!"
Greyenivol Colony
06-10-2005, 16:33
argh! you could have said american lost. i'm getting spoilers from a whole season ahead!
Guacamole eaters
06-10-2005, 16:35
me too lol...were half way through the first season in the UK
Willamena
06-10-2005, 17:24
Simonist']*snip* ...but at the same time I think most of Jack's tumoil stemmed more from his stubborness concerning, uh....what's-his-face, the Scottish (right?) guy.
Irish. Stubborness about what? Very little about Jack's interaction with Desmond made sense.
[NS]Simonist
06-10-2005, 18:19
Irish. Stubborness about what? Very little about Jack's interaction with Desmond made sense.
His simple bull-headed refusal to not only outwardly acknowledge that Desmond and he had met before, but also, once it is brought up, he tries VERY hard not to let it factor into his actions at all (though he fails....he gets like, four times bitchier in that half of the episode, and even worse at the end). I understand that originally the plot was going to go slightly further into that, but they changed script halfway through the rehearsals (my second cousin works crew on that show and her sister is working on Prison Break this season), but from what she insinuated it was because he [Jack] didn't want to remind himself of what he'd left behind, especially his wife. Or....something.

Scottish and Irish are hard for me to catch sometimes, because most of my older Irish family members pretty well Americanized early on.
Ashmoria
06-10-2005, 19:01
Irish. Stubborness about what? Very little about Jack's interaction with Desmond made sense.
desmond's presence on that island both reminds jack of the woman who is no longer his wife and that the island is a much freakier place than he is willing to admit.

that makes him do nonsensical things
Willamena
06-10-2005, 19:31
desmond's presence on that island both reminds jack of the woman who is no longer his wife and that the island is a much freakier place than he is willing to admit.

that makes him do nonsensical things
I don't think that is sufficient justification for poor writing. I just hope it gets better next week.