NationStates Jolt Archive

This thread is for posting amusing, weird, or interesting secession movements from whatever region you call home. I'll start:

We've got a relatively interesting one around here called Cascadia. The basic concept is that the area from San Francisco up to British Columbia should secede from their respective countries and join up into one ultra-liberal green utopia. By having Seattle and Northern California it would actually have an economy, allowing the ideals of the other areas to flourish. Personally I find the concept rather amusing but not at all likely.

Here is a related group: http://zapatopi.net/cascadia/

The funniest of all time will be the State of Jefferson.

The funniest of all time will be the State of Jefferson.

Yeah, I've heard of that one. One thing I've never been told is why exactly it's called Jefferson? I mean, the only connection that I can think he has with the area is Lewis and Clark, but that's northern Oregon, not southern.

Yeah, I've heard of that one. One thing I've never been told is why exactly it's called Jefferson? I mean, the only connection that I can think he has with the area is Lewis and Clark, but that's northern Oregon, not southern.

No idea, I just know that some of the far northern counties of California and some of the southern Oregon were going to secede and then join together as a new state. WWII kinda happened, though.

In my high school Spanish class, we had elections for Spanish Club officers.

All of the snob-type girls and their effiminate guy friend voted each other into office by virtue of sheer numbers.

My six friends and I could not break the bloc to get a single position. Therefore, we seceded and formed the Basque Club (a lot harder to say than it is to type).

We made up our own officer positions and wrote our club articles of secession (ironically, in Spanish). At random times in class we'd start paper-throwing wars. For food days, we would bring cake that only Basque officials could eat. We also made a Basque flag and hung it in a corner of the room.

Some of the officers were "spies", cheating off (and probably flirting with) the Spanish Club girls during tests. Oh, we had fun.

And our club was better.

In my high school Spanish class, we had elections for Spanish Club officers.

All of the snob-type girls and their effiminate guy friend voted each other into office by virtue of sheer numbers.

My six friends and I could not break the bloc to get a single position. Therefore, we seceded and formed the Basque Club (a lot harder to say than it is to type).

We made up our own officer positions and wrote our club articles of secession (ironically, in Spanish). At random times in class we'd start paper-throwing wars. For food days, we would bring cake that only Basque officials could eat. We also made a Basque flag and hung it in a corner of the room.

Some of the officers were "spies", cheating off (and probably flirting with) the Spanish Club girls during tests. Oh, we had fun.

And our club was better.

The question is, though, did any of you actually speak Basque?

Well, I know the town of Susanville in California wanted to merge into Nevada there for a while, mainly because they thought it would be better to have a casino in town instead of driving to Reno, and they REALLY didn't like Sacramento. California wasn't too happy with the idea due to Susanville being at least 2 hours away from the Nevada border with a number of small towns between it and the border.

Well, I know the town of Susanville in California wanted to merge into Nevada there for a while, mainly because they thought it would be better to have a casino in town instead of driving to Reno, and they REALLY didn't like Sacramento. California wasn't too happy with the idea due to Susanville being at least 2 hours away from the Nevada border with a number of small towns between it and the border.

It could be an enclave, though, like Kalleningrad (spelling may not be right on that one). Plus, the casino would help the nearby California economy.

The water took back the land here in Wilnis.

My six friends and I could not break the bloc to get a single position. Therefore, we seceded and formed the Basque Club (a lot harder to say than it is to type).

should have gone catalan instead. at least their language is actually related to spanish. and they've never liked castellano all that much.

Well, I know the town of Susanville in California wanted to merge into Nevada there for a while, mainly because they thought it would be better to have a casino in town instead of driving to Reno, and they REALLY didn't like Sacramento. California wasn't too happy with the idea due to Susanville being at least 2 hours away from the Nevada border with a number of small towns between it and the border.
Who does? (I grew up there)

I vte for the seccession of Florida from the Union. Actually, not so much it's succession as it's being kicked out. At the border where the "South" becomes Florida (where the culture changes, we all know Southern culture is not like that of Miami or Orlando...) we should build a huge canal/ditch. We should militarize this zone and make about a mile of territory of "no-man's land" suggesting the 38th parallel in Korea. And we shall call if. The Floridian Ditch.

No idea, I just know that some of the far northern counties of California and some of the southern Oregon were going to secede and then join together as a new state. WWII kinda happened, though.
I think it had to do with a quasi-libertarian type deally. They wanted to succeed and form thier state based largely on that particular founding father's principles. They still exist, you can look them up-

Actually, after looking them up it's a lot simpler than all that:
There have been many attempts at forming a new state comprised of northern California and southern Oregon, but none has gained so much attention and retained it as the secession movement of 1941.

The abundant supply of minerals and timber in this region was largely inaccessible due to the lack of sufficient roads and bridges into the rugged mountain border country. The local pioneering people grew weary of unfulfilled promises from Salem and Sacramento to help fund sufficient highway projects in the region while building campgrounds in the cities where there were more votes.

Representatives from the mountain border counties involved met in Yreka, CA on November 17, 1941 to form an alliance to obtain federal aid for the construction and repair of bridges and roads. The Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to allocate $100 to research the possibility of seceding from the state of California and joining the other counties to form a new 49th state. The Yreka Chamber of Commerce was very instrumental in persuading the Board.

The local newspaper ran a contest to name the new state and the winning entry was Jefferson. The winner of the contest pocketed $2 for his efforts. Yreka was designated the temporary state capital where the ‘State of Jefferson Citizen’s Committee’ was formed.
Haha. Shows what I know.

Really seems to be about being ignored and bad roads. Check out why the flag has Two Xs (http://www.jeffersonstate.com/history/doublecrossed.html)

Shitty roads. That's what they where pissed about.

We have an independent nation of sorts down in Florida called the Conch Republic. I am sure most of you have heard of it. The flag was even one of the NS original default options. For those that haven't heard of it, it's a good story. Part of the Florida Keys was blockaded by the U.S. government back in the 80's. After protests, the local mayor declared their secession, and became the first Prime Minister of the Conch Republic. Which immediately declared war on the U.S. One minute later, the republic surrendered, and then demanded foreign aid from the government.

http://www.conchrepublic.com/history.htm

Someone on this very site lit me up to these cats (http://www.sealandgov.com/).

Quality.

Sealand was founded as a sovereign Principality in 1967 in international waters, six miles off the eastern shores of Britain. The island fortress is conveniently situated from 65 to 100 miles from the coasts of France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. The official language of Sealand is English and the Sealand Dollar has a fixed exchange rate of one U.S. dollar. Passports and stamps have been in circulation since 1969, however, contrary to many misleading websites and news articles, Sealand passports are not for sale, and anyone offering such are selling forgeries. Within a radius of 500 miles of Sealand live more than 200 million people who enjoy some of the highest standards of living in the world. This area also encompasses the financial, industrial and cultural heart of Europe.

The question is, though, did any of you actually speak Basque?

::sigh:: No. Very little relation to the actual Euskadi. I didn't choose the name; the guy we wanted to be Presidente did.

I would've gone with "Castilla Club", or something of that sort.

I vte for the seccession of Florida from the Union. Actually, not so much it's succession as it's being kicked out. At the border where the "South" becomes Florida (where the culture changes, we all know Southern culture is not like that of Miami or Orlando...) we should build a huge canal/ditch. We should militarize this zone and make about a mile of territory of "no-man's land" suggesting the 38th parallel in Korea. And we shall call if. The Floridian Ditch.

Hey, that was suggested on GTA: Vice City...if you ever listen to NPR in the cars, it's hilarious. The idea was from the opposite view though. Some old hick wanted to have Florida secede from the union.

"If you are a true Floridian, I want you to go out into your backyard and start digging a ditch. A ditch of Hope. Which will flood into a river of Freedom."
(Or something along those lines)


Anyway, I'm from Texas, so I am of course morally obligated to mention the Republic of Texas. I found out the other day that there is a current President of Texas. In addition, a whole government staff. A guy from my area is the Secretary of Defense. They have something like 600,000 supporters(I think).

Yeah, and supposedly if the case ever gets through the World Court, and it goes through in our favor(by "our" I mean the lunatics who support it), all it will take is for 3 countries to recognize us as an independent nation, and BOOM!-the Republic of Texas is reborn....a Rerepublic of Texas, if you will.

should have gone catalan instead. at least their language is actually related to spanish. and they've never liked castellano all that much.

What, and deal with obnoxious English tourists?

Anyway, I'm from Texas, so I am of course morally obligated to mention the Republic of Texas. I found out the other day that there is a current President of Texas. In addition, a whole government staff. A guy from my area is the Secretary of Defense. They have something like 600,000 supporters(I think).

Yeah, and supposedly if the case ever gets through the World Court, and it goes through in our favor(by "our" I mean the lunatics who support it), all it will take is for 3 countries to recognize us as an independent nation, and BOOM!-the Republic of Texas is reborn....a Rerepublic of Texas, if you will.
Not to be outdone, California had an Emperor (http://www.zpub.com/sf/history/nort.html).

Did you know the star on the California flag was for solidarity with Texas, when American settlers after coming out from underneath the Californios wanted to have a Republic like Texas?

Sob. We used to be such good friends...

it's not exactly secession, but the history of idaho is kind of funny. they had to give moscow the major university in order to keep northern idaho from running off to join washington. cause northern idahoans think southern idahoans are stupid and smell funny or something.

I know there are some small groups that want to secede from Japan.

Okinawa is the only movement I know for sure that's currently active. The Ryukyu kingdom was independant up until 1879.

I also remember something about some groups in Hokkaido that were seeking autoinomy or even independance, but am not sure of the facts here. I do know that Hokkaido did declare independance over 100 years ago, as the Republic of Ezo. As far as I know, the Republic of Ezo was never recognised internationally. However, it's notable for having held the first recorded democratic election in Asia.

It could be an enclave, though, like Kalleningrad (spelling may not be right on that one). Plus, the casino would help the nearby California economy.
Oh it wasn't a bad idea, Susanville has more in common with Nevada than the rest of California, it was just more amusing how they wanted to draw the border in order to connect with Nevada (the idea of an enclave didn't cross their mines I guess), and the fact that Nevada's goverment pretty much ignored the request (We're not listening, we not!).

And the Australians seem to have a nutty secessionist streak to match the US, set off by the Hutt River Province Principality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation#Micronations_in_Australia lists some of them.

Oh yeah, and of course all aboard the The Freedom Ship (http://www.freedomship.com/)!!!

Reserve your space now...

there is also the periodic call for northern wisconsin and the u.p. to join together as "superior - the state", aka vacationland: chicago

hawaii's got an ongoing secessionist movement. so does puerto rico. the u.s. virgin islands have more of a "meh" sort of movement, and even that's only when they have time off from working three shitty service sector jobs each or while bored on their luxury yatchs.

Yeah, when I lived in the UP for a while (Upper Peninsula of Michigan) I saw all those "51st State" things that they sold mainly to tourists from downstate. Damned goofy Yoopers.

Alaska has an independence party, which if you look up online justifies their position with out-dated polls (a decade old) and a poorly written manefesto (my favorite line: "pedifile judges are bad").

In circa 1822 Tasmania seceded from the His Majesty's Colony of the New South Wales.

From 1930(officially1933)-1950 Western Australia declared itself seceded from the Federation. Between this time it was known as the Dominion of West Australia and veiwed itself a seperate colony of England.

In circa 1934 a petition from the Premier of South Australia was sent to England requesting to be seceded from the Federation and was followed quickly by a letter from Tasmania.

If the petition of Western Australia was granted by the British Parliament Westerns Australia, South Australia & Tasmania would remain to this day Dominions of the Crown and not part of the Commonwealth of Australia.

The best of all is that TO THIS DAY Queensland is technically a republic having seceded from New South Wales circa 1860 and one Premier actually ordered state troops to blockade Parliament from federal marshalls attempting to storm the Queensland Senate, where debates on the Federal draft were being waged during WWI.

I remember hearing somewhere that Ross Perot started/tried to start his own private nation "Rosta Rica". Can anyone give more info on this? Confirm/disprove?

I spoke with a girl once who was passionately in favor of Northumbrian Seperatism.

I spoke with a girl once who was passionately in favor of Northumbrian Seperatism.

Yah, but that's usually Northumberland minus most of the Borough of Blyth Valley. And they really only hev two issues: 1) the belief that they can get even more farm subsidies from the EEC directly than they can going through London; and, 2) "Fight Prejudice, Fight the Ban."

It's really just a function of when the labour government is in power.

there is also the periodic call for northern wisconsin and the u.p. to join together as "superior - the state", aka vacationland: chicago.

Funny...I've lived in this state for almost 17 years now, and I've never heard of such a movement.

Of course, it wouldn't suprise me...those UPers are a little nuts...I think we should just give the whole thing to Canada, let it be their problem. :p

And the Australians seem to have a nutty secessionist streak to match the US, set off by the Hutt River Province Principality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation#Micronations_in_Australia lists some of them.

I think they made that illegal last year.

A man called Danny Wallace declared his one bedroom flat in East London as an independent state, delivering a declaration of independence to 10 downing street and managing to gather over 36,000 "citizens" to sign up and recognise him as king.

It formed a TV series on the BBC called "How to start your own country". They even voted on what to call the country - it's being named Lovely.

We have a movement here in Yorkshire for it to break away from the UK - it is slightly crazy.

Why doesn't Hawaii break away from the US? After all, it is all alone out there...

If no one's mentioned it yet, Bavaria has the Bayernpartei (Bavaria Party) that wants to split off of Germany and create an independent Bavaria in Europe.

We have a movement here in Yorkshire for it to break away from the UK - it is slightly crazy.

Why doesn't Hawaii break away from the US? After all, it is all alone out there...
They want to, or at least some of them do. I used to know how to say "Keep Hawai'ian lands in Hawai'in hands" in Polynesian, but alas no more.

There seem to be secessionist, independence or autonomist movements in every region of Spain. My favorite is Castille - strange, because the Kingdom of Castille was the direct predecessor to modern Spain. It would be akin to England seceding from the UK, or Prussia from Germany.

Of course, I don't know if they have any popular support, or if they are just a couple of weirdos with a web site.

:rolleyes:

Huge Sarcasm Tag
You know what was a crazy-ass secession movement?
Those nutty Confederates! I mean, come on, seceding because of an overbearing Federal government and opposition to tariffs? We sure put them in their place!! :D :D :D
Huge Sarcasm Tag
jk jk jk

Seriously the oddest secession has to be West Virginia - seceeeding from an already seceeded state to re-join the Union?

It would be akin to England seceding from the UK, or Prussia from Germany.


If you want to get technical, the Region of Prussia has seceded from Germany. It exists now as the Russian Enclave of Kaliningrad, as well as parts of Lithuania and Poland. :p

If you want to get technical, the Region of Prussia has seceded from Germany. It exists now as the Russian Enclave of Kaliningrad, as well as parts of Lithuania and Poland. :p

First of all, that's just East Prussia, not the whole thing. And it didn't secede on its own, but was ceded to those three nations by the Allies at the end of WWII. Get technical with me, will you? :p

There was a little-known State of Franklin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Franklin) in western North Carolina and eastern Tennessee from 1784 to 1790.

Even less known was an attempt to revive it during the Civil War. Several pro-Union counties in western North Carolina flirted with the idea of following West Virginia's lead by seceding from the Confederate state of North Carolina and forming a new US state. A number of pro-Union counties in eastern Tennessee were considering the same thing, and there was an attempt to get the two movements to join forces. Of course, this went nowhere. My wife's great-great-grandfather was one of the North Carolinians who supported this movement. (He was also one of the few men to fight on both sides of the war; he was conscripted into the Confederate army, then deserted and joined the Union army.)

:p

First of all, that's just East Prussia, not the whole thing. And it didn't secede on its own, but was ceded to those three nations by the Allies at the end of WWII. Get technical with me, will you? :p

Well, most of West Prussia is now part of Poland.

Although of course, your second point is correct.

It would be akin to England seceding from the UK, or Prussia from Germany.

Or like Russia seceding from the Soviet Union.