NationStates Jolt Archive

Apparently the (moderatly) famous Fort Clatsop, where Lewis and Clark set up shop for the Winter in Oregon, burned down last night.
The actual fort on the site was built in the 50's from period documentation and the structure was considered to be as accurate as possible.

Whats particularly sad is that they most likely wont be able to rebuild since they lack the funds.
And, of course, the bicentennial anniversary is coming up, with no fort replica, the park has little else to offer.

I used to do voluntier work there, it was a nice building. Its really too bad that it burned down.

I doubt this will make the news, so dont ask me to site it :P

I'm sorry, but a fifty year "old" replica is not "historical" fort.

Yer but its still a shame....

yep - a shame

Fifty years counts as historic in the US?

Fifty years counts as historic in the US?


Nope - not usually. Sounds like this was a monument to an event that took place 150 years ago.

sorry.....200 years ago

Its close enough :P
Besides, they did keep some artifacts in the fort itself, I beleive they had some documents and the like around there.
Anyway, heres a link, apparently somebody cares :P:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_100405_news_fort_clatsop.bf7bf011.html

Only fourty days to rebuild it, not an easy thing to do in Oregon where the 'tree-huggers' (Yes, there are tree-huggers in Oregon, they drive around without liscence plates and want to form their own country) make it nearly impossible to cut down anything.

I'm sorry, but a fifty year "old" replica is not "historical" fort.

Think of it as a monument to commemorate one of the most significant (and arduos) exploration expeditions in history, and certainly the most important one in the history of the USA. Except for some documents and a couple artefacts, the replica/monument was the only tangible thing Americans had to connect with this piece of their history.

This really sucks. I bet it was arson, the fire set to conceal theft.

Think of it as a monument to commemorate one of the most significant (and arduos) exploration expeditions in history, and certainly the most important one in the history of the USA. Except for some documents and a couple artefacts, the replica/monument was the only tangible thing Americans had to connect with this piece of their history.

This really sucks. I bet it was arson, the fire set to conceal theft.

Fortunately, there is a considerable L&C site in Illinois where they started. Hopefully there will be a push for funds to rebuild.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were arson. The last few years have seen a sharp increase in thefts & vandalism at sites like this.

Think of it as a monument to commemorate one of the most significant (and arduos) exploration expeditions in history, and certainly the most important one in the history of the USA. Except for some documents and a couple artefacts, the replica/monument was the only tangible thing Americans had to connect with this piece of their history.

This really sucks. I bet it was arson, the fire set to conceal theft.
I dont think it was to hide a theft, theres not much worth stealing, at least, nothing the locals would think was worth stealing.
I lived in Seaside for six years or so, the greatest ambition of most people there is to work at Safeway.

Anyway, theres nothing really 'cool' there, just some boxes, a few shirts in the 'Captains suite', the wooden beds, and some fake meat in the smoking room. There were some things in the storage area, but nothing worth taking, they keep some interpretive stuff (a brass sextant, glassess, bottles of 'medicine' and so forth.), all the rifles and things that somebody would want to snag are in the museum.

Im hoping it was an accident, considering that the fort is caulked with dry moss, I can see it happening. Somebody was smoking where they shouldnt have been, maybe some kids who snuck over the wall to somwhere they wouldnt get caught.
Still, its a major loss for the community.

Its close enough :P
Besides, they did keep some artifacts in the fort itself, I beleive they had some documents and the like around there.
Anyway, heres a link, apparently somebody cares :P:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_100405_news_fort_clatsop.bf7bf011.html

Only fourty days to rebuild it, not an easy thing to do in Oregon where the 'tree-huggers' (Yes, there are tree-huggers in Oregon, they drive around without liscence plates and want to form their own country) make it nearly impossible to cut down anything.


Correction, cool people from Portland shit on the rest of an entirely redneck state, and do it with pride. Except Astoria, those peeps are cool. And Eugene.

Think of it as a monument to commemorate one of the most significant (and arduos) exploration expeditions in history, and certainly the most important one in the history of the USA. Except for some documents and a couple artefacts, the replica/monument was the only tangible thing Americans had to connect with this piece of their history.

This really sucks. I bet it was arson, the fire set to conceal theft.


It probably was Arson. But I wouldn't blame the tree-huggers for that.

Wow, I remember going there when I was 5. And then again going back this past march.

This is sad

It probably was Arson. But I wouldn't blame the tree-huggers for that.
Nah, theres some big trees right next to the fort, and the ground is covered in dry bark chippings, burning the fort would put the whole area at a fire risk.

And yes, people from the 'civilized' (Ex: Areas with cities) parts of Oregon are generaly cool.
The rest of the state is either:
a. Xenophobic
or
b. Hippies

And both groups are roughly %89 potheads.