NationStates Jolt Archive


The Next-gens are coming....where do you stand?

Morvonia
03-10-2005, 21:34
Xbox 360 all the way baby no question about that!
Chikyota
03-10-2005, 21:35
Playstation 3. I hold to that, seeing how well both of its previous models held up.
Liskeinland
03-10-2005, 21:37
Xbox 360 all the way baby no question about that! Fine, fight in the armies of the Devil. You made the wrong choice, you are following a bloodied whore and I will stand victorious over your burnt-out corpse!
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 21:39
A new P.C.
[NS]Liasia
03-10-2005, 21:40
Pc. Mainly because they wont stop making games for it in two years and I can use it for other stuff. Remember the dreamcast people, when youre thinking of buying a console.
Swilatia
03-10-2005, 21:41
The next gens are coming out... who cares! P.C. gaming will always be better.
Osutoria-Hangarii
03-10-2005, 21:48
I prefer playing games on a PC because they are generally much more customizable and comfortable for me, but I do not agree with the chauvinistic attitude displayed by that choice in the poll :|
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 21:53
The next gens are coming out... who cares! P.C. gaming will always be better.

Actually, the xbox 360 graphics card will be 2 generations ahead of PC. That combined with more natural and Pressure sensitive controls and the added bonus of not having to dish out hundreds per year to keep your computer current make 360 the way to go.
An archy
03-10-2005, 21:54
I hope the PS3 takes the majority share of the next-gen market. It will have better specs than the 360, but it will probably be a little more difficult for publishers to produce games for that console. This means that the best possible games can be produced on the PS3, but the foremost game publishers might be reluctant to invest a great deal of money in achieving those possibilities. It is probably in the best interest of gamers that the PS3 sells higher than the 360. This would have two effects. One, game publishers will recieve a higher immediate financial reward for investing money in making the best possible PS3 games as more potential customers will own the PS3. Two, it will show every company in the market, including Nintendo and Microsoft, that gaming customers absolutely demand the highest quality products possible and that almost any investment in improved technology will pay significant dividends. If the PS3 dominates the next-gen market, then you can expect a spectacular improvement in the consoles which will come out around 2009.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 21:56
But at the moment PS3's specs are miles behind 360 and everytime I turn around theyre cutting more and more (not to mention the rediculous look of the thing). Plus, all indications are that Halo 3 will be released or announced on or around PS3's launch. That would be a killer blow to sony. You go on and on as if PS3 actually has impressive specs. They set rediculous goals in the beginning and are now cutting back almost daily. Ps3 will do well but not because its better, itll do well because of the almost cult following it has. Plus, Ive looked at launch titles and screenshots of the 360 and let me say that game developer went all out on those ones. 360 has only gotten more impressive as time goes on.
Chikyota
03-10-2005, 22:01
Plus, all indications are that Halo 3 will be released or announced on or around PS3's launch. That would be a killer blow to sony.

Or a killer blow to Halo. People keep forgetting that Playstation holds a 60+% share of the market, and without resorting to the bullying tactics that Nintendo once used. They have a lot of good will and likely will outgenerate any buzz with a console release than Halo would with a game release.

Alternately, neither could have much impact on the other since they tend to have different audiences anyways.
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 22:01
But at the moment PS3's specs are miles behind 360 and everytime I turn around theyre cutting more and more (not to mention the rediculous look of the thing). Plus, all indications are that Halo 3 will be released or announced on or around PS3's launch. That would be a killer blow to sony.

Would it? I think that Gates' ego has went too far. I doubt 1 game will be able to stop an entire console.

And knowing Sony, they'd release the PS3 a month ahead without letting anyone know.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:06
You forget though that Halo 2 was the single best selling game of all time and is an xbox exclusive. PS3 doesnt really have any promising exclusives that i can see. Killzone looks pretty good and you of course have your old standby's, but it doesnt change the fact that 360 right now has better specs, it aesthically pleasing, and will play Halo 2 ( and Halo 3 hopefully soon)
Call to power
03-10-2005, 22:06
I will get the PS3 mainly because of consumer loyalty and the fact the everyone else will be getting one

and what happend to Xbox 2-359?
Cleadus
03-10-2005, 22:08
360!
Liskeinland
03-10-2005, 22:08
Incidentally, I'll stick with the good ol' Mac.

Go on, throw mud at me, you know you want to. You can't get Garageband, nya.
Osutoria-Hangarii
03-10-2005, 22:09
Incidentally, I'll stick with the good ol' Mac.

Go on, throw mud at me, you know you want to. You can't get Garageband, nya.

It's ok, I still love you :)
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:10
I will get the PS3 mainly because of consumer loyalty and the fact the everyone else will be getting one

and what happend to Xbox 2-359?


That I believe is the only reason PS3 will sell, blind loyalty. It certainly won't sell on merit or on exclusive titles. Anyone who can compare specs can see that 360 has better specs and they have been attained. By the time PS3's launched at teh rate features are being removed itll just be a curved PS2. Plus, its not like there are rules for naming systems. 360 just sounds cool.(its more than three and equal to revolution)
Call to power
03-10-2005, 22:13
That I believe is the only reason PS3 will sell, blind loyalty. It certainly won't sell on merit or on exclusive titles. Anyone who can compare specs can see that 360 has better specs and they have been attained. By the time PS3's launched at teh rate features are being removed itll just be a curved PS2. Plus, its not like there are rules for naming systems. 360 just sounds cool.(its more than three and equal to revolution)

but the Xbox was better than the PS2 and it still got whooped (microsoft actually lost money for every Xbox because they fought the games would sell like hot cakes)

I also don't think many sports games will be for Xbox 360 so the general public won't bother
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:15
Incidentally, I'll stick with the good ol' Mac.

Go on, throw mud at me, you know you want to. You can't get Garageband, nya.

Goin down with the ship I see, oh well, I just dont see the point of having a Mac, it so impossible to do hard upgrades, don't you go through one like every year?
Liskeinland
03-10-2005, 22:17
Goin down with the ship I see, oh well, I just dont see the point of having a Mac, it so impossible to do hard upgrades, don't you go through one like every year? Nope. Had the same one for quite a few years now. The ship is doing just fine… and it's not impossible to do hardware upgrades, it's very easy in fact and you CAN change the monitor…
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:19
but the Xbox was better than the PS2 and it still got whooped (microsoft actually lost money for every Xbox because they fought the games would sell like hot cakes)

I also don't think many sports games will be for Xbox 360 so the general public won't bother

Yea, xbox is better, by a long shot, but its that damn customer loyalty. I don't see whjy people refuse to buy the better system with better games...anyway, I think itll change this time. 360 will get its share of sports games, but also a whole lot more. Speaking of Which, has anyone hear seen the screenshots for Oblivion? they look freakin amazing!
Medellina
03-10-2005, 22:20
I built my own PC. No way I'm giving it up any time soon to some console.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:22
Nope. Had the same one for quite a few years now. The ship is doing just fine… and it's not impossible to do hardware upgrades, it's very easy in fact and you CAN change the monitor…

Ya...but i mean for upgrades other than the monitor. Like system upgrades like graphics cards and whatnot. PC is just so much easier and not even any worse than Mac. The only thing I would like about a Mac would be Final Cut Pro, but I use Adobe Premier Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop CS2 and theyre really just as good if not better.
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 22:23
Yea, xbox is better, by a long shot, but its that damn customer loyalty. I don't see whjy people refuse to buy the better system with better games...anyway, I think itll change this time. 360 will get its share of sports games, but also a whole lot more. Speaking of Which, has anyone hear seen the screenshots for Oblivion? they look freakin amazing!

Because peoples' opinions of "better" vary.

And I don't think it will change drastically. Indeed I hope not. If a company takes the lions' share of the video game market, it could destroy video games for years to come. 1983 repeated...

Well, sorta. I don't think we'll see Quaker Oats release video games, but you know what I mean.
Chikyota
03-10-2005, 22:24
Yea, xbox is better, by a long shot, but its that damn customer loyalty. I don't see whjy people refuse to buy the better system with better games... Possibly because they don't think it has better games? One of the main reasons I never get an X-box but stuck with my ps2 was because i perferred it's games. Really, the only genre market that the X-box truly excells in is the FPS. Otherwise, Playstation does well, especially in RPGS where it is no competition.

I find it interesting how you decry customer loyalty when you seem to be just as loyal of an X-box fan, but nevermind that...

anyway, I think itll change this time. I do too. X box does have better buzz and playstations large share of the market is generally unsustainable with so much competition. Also, Nintendo looks to do poorly.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:27
Im loyal to Xbox because its better, in specs and games (I'm an FPS fan), but Xbox does have some crazy RPGs. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion anyone? Nintendo also will do poorly, they havent had anything new since 64. I think within the coming years we will see the death of Nintendo at least in the home console market. Even in handhelds, I do admit that the PSP is a far cry (hey, another great game) ahead of Nintendo
Zolworld
03-10-2005, 22:28
The PS3 does have the best processor by miles, but will it really matter? High end games are video card limited, and the xbox360 and revolution have better graphics cards than the PS3.

I wont buy any of them of course, but I imagine the xbox will be most succesful outside Japan. The revolution surprised me because I'd gotten the impression they were relying on fun games rather than graphics, then they come up with a system containing cutting edge graphics and physics chips. It can compete if the consumers give them a chance. I hope Nintendo dont go the way of sega.
Megatania
03-10-2005, 22:31
Nintendo Revolution, if only for online Smash Brothers.
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 22:31
Im loyal to Xbox because its better, in specs and games (I'm an FPS fan), but Xbox does have some crazy RPGs. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion anyone?

PC is much better for FPS. Half-Life springs to mind.

It also has some great RPGs. Arcanum, some of the Final Fantasys, Dungeon Siege, and of course any SNES RPG thanks to emulation.
Anarchic Christians
03-10-2005, 22:35
revolution first because it does stuff my PC can't. The probably a PS3 for the RPG's if anything (am I the only one to find Halo to be a substandard lump of crap in all departments?).
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:36
PC is much better for FPS. Half-Life springs to mind.

It also has some great RPGs. Arcanum, some of the Final Fantasys, Dungeon Siege, and of course any SNES RPG thanks to emulation.

You cant beat the pressure sensitive controls of console for FPS though. I dunno, that point and click, use the arrow keys and mouse thig is really wearing thin with me. Plus, PC gaming is so damn expensive, it makes more sense to buy the console with the graphics card thats 2 generations ahead of PC. (360) Oblivion looks amaking though for RPG, if you havent seen the screens or played the Elder Scrolls III Morrowind its definately worth picking up. (its cheap now too)
JuNii
03-10-2005, 22:36
for me, A PS3, only because I already have a wide variety of games from the PS1 and PS2.

Xbox... maybe. but so far, not impressed with their library...

Nintendo? not even considering it.
The Helghan Empire
03-10-2005, 22:37
Xbox 360!


(Screw PS3!)
Its too far away
03-10-2005, 22:39
But at the moment PS3's specs are miles behind 360 and everytime I turn around theyre cutting more and more

No they are not....


(not to mention the rediculous look of the thing).

Heh an xbox fan is mocking a playstations looks.

Plus, all indications are that Halo 3 will be released or announced on or around PS3's launch. That would be a killer blow to sony. You go on and on as if PS3 actually has impressive specs. They set rediculous goals in the beginning and are now cutting back almost daily. Ps3 will do well but not because its better, itll do well because of the almost cult following it has. Plus, Ive looked at launch titles and screenshots of the 360 and let me say that game developer went all out on those ones. 360 has only gotten more impressive as time goes on.

I can't stand Halo fanatics. The game is alright. Nothing more, nothing less. It provides decent play for parties with large multiplayers but the singleplayer is boring. Talking of allout have you seen the killzone trailer? that is insane. The consol with the cult following is nintendo not playstation.
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 22:42
You cant beat the pressure sensitive controls of console for FPS though. I dunno, that point and click, use the arrow keys and mouse thig is really wearing thin with me. Plus, PC gaming is so damn expensive, it makes more sense to buy the console with the graphics card thats 2 generations ahead of PC. (360) Oblivion looks amaking though for RPG, if you havent seen the screens or played the Elder Scrolls III Morrowind its definately worth picking up. (its cheap now too)

I suppose. But I love how a mouse responds to my hand better than any pad.

And yes, I admit it is expensieve. However, I do not believe it's more sensible to buy an 360 becasue:

1. I have loads of P.C games.
2. Buy a P.C, you get so much more than games.
3. An Xbox 360 breaks, you have to let someone else fix it else you null the warranty. With a P.C, you can just do it yourself. Saves time and money, if you know what you're doing.

I've been meaning to get Morrowind for a while. I've played it on my mate's Xbox, and the P.C Game Of The Year Version costs 15 quid in my local GAME. Bargain, I feel.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:42
(am I the only one to find Halo to be a substandard lump of crap in all departments?).

This makes me wonder..have you played halo, and if so, why do you not like it? It completely revolutionized the Multiplayer FPS experience by the inclusion of vehicles (all subsequent FPS's have caught on that that was a great idea) It is the only game to have the online party system, making playing with friends easy, when the host leaves the game doesnt end ( a vast improvment over the others) That combined with the incredible multiplayer side of the game make it to most, even its critics, innovative and intuitive. I would hardly call it a lump of crap, especially without any reasons.
Linthiopia
03-10-2005, 22:43
I'm getting an Xbox 360 ASAP. Oblivion ftw! :D

I also plan on getting a PS3, although I'm in no rush to pick one of those up. Just whenever I run out of 360 games to play, and have enough money.

I have no intention of ever purchasing a Nitendo Revolution. Nitendo is going kiddy. That's perfectly alright, but they won't be getting my money.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:46
I've been meaning to get Morrowind for a while. I've played it on my mate's Xbox, and the P.C Game Of The Year Version costs 15 quid in my local GAME. Bargain, I feel.

Definately get it. The games amazing. Words cannot describe how much I loved that game. (probably my favorite minus H2 and possibly Far Cry Instincts, which I have only played twice but already love)

Go with the GOTY version. You get both expansion packs which add almost unlimited replayability and challenge even the highest level player.

Im not a fan of d pads either but the dual stick control in console FPS is like the best thing ever. lol
The Noble Men
03-10-2005, 22:47
Definately get it. The games amazing. Words cannot describe how much I loved that game. (probably my favorite minus H2 and possibly Far Cry Instincts, which I have only played twice but already love)

Go with the GOTY version. You get both expansion packs which add almost unlimited replayability and challenge even the highest level player.

Once I either get a new P.C or this one becomes useable for games again, I'll defianately pick it up.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:49
Once I either get a new P.C or this one becomes useable for games again, I'll defianately pick it up.

you won't be disapointed.
Burnviktm
03-10-2005, 22:49
Yeah, there is no gamepad... no matter how 'revolutionary' that can respond the way that a mouse does. I play with my sensitivity so high, that I can do a 180 degree turn by moving my mouse laterally about 1 inch. There is no way that a gamepad player can have that sort of responsiveness.

Of course, it all comes down to what you are used to... I have been using mouse/keyboard config ever since DOOM back in the mid 90s, so it is more natural for me. Some of the younger gamers that started playing games on a console could school me if I had to play with a gamepad.

PC better or worse? Better IMHO, but there really isn't a justification one way or the other... just personal preference.
China3
03-10-2005, 22:50
The next gens are coming out... who cares! P.C. gaming will always be better.


yup.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:51
I wonder, have any of you guys met FPS Doug?

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/toomuchcs.html

so damn funny!
Aylestone
03-10-2005, 22:52
On the other hand you could go outside and I don't know... exercise or do some outdoor activity... Or does that sound too radical an idea?

No I'm sorry, that's a bit factitious really isn't it. I just think people don't spend enough time out of doors these days, and it depresses me to see my godchildren watching TV and playing computer games when it's sunny out.
Go outside occasionally, and see the wonders of the world, there are some really rather spectacular things and places out there, just go look.
China3
03-10-2005, 22:53
btw- halo sucked balls.BADLY.
Zolworld
03-10-2005, 22:53
John Carmack and Gabe Newell have been bitching that the multiple processors make next gen processors a nightmare to program for. This is partly what sunk the saturn, it was just too hard to make games for. It could be that the revolution is just easier, and more importantly faster, to make games for, which could be an advantage.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 22:56
btw- halo sucked balls.BADLY.

May I ask Why you feel this way? Do you hate FPS in general or do you have some particular gripe with Halo?
Alablablania
03-10-2005, 22:56
I stand in the corner weeping for lack of money, and then search under the couch cushions for spare change.
Khallayne
03-10-2005, 23:01
PSIII, because you can't play PSII games on XBOX 360, I think... ;)
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 23:03
PSIII, because you can't play PSII games on XBOX 360, I think... ;)

You can play xbox games on a 360, and you cant play xbox games on a PS3...lol
Anarchic Christians
03-10-2005, 23:04
This makes me wonder..have you played halo, and if so, why do you not like it? It completely revolutionized the Multiplayer FPS experience by the inclusion of vehicles (all subsequent FPS's have caught on that that was a great idea) It is the only game to have the online party system, making playing with friends easy, when the host leaves the game doesnt end ( a vast improvment over the others) That combined with the incredible multiplayer side of the game make it to most, even its critics, innovative and intuitive. I would hardly call it a lump of crap, especially without any reasons.

The levels were repetetive and annoying, the weaponry poorly balanced, the PC port was so shoddy it could hardly play on lowest settings on a fairly solid PC, Multiplayer was fun only when everyone had a Warthog or a rocket launcher. The story was hackneyed, the setting so blatantly stolen from Ringworld Larry Niven should have got royalties and the flood were so ludicrously generic I just found myself sniggering.

I bought the PC version and played the Xbox version at a friends, i'd say I've played it yes.

And I do like FPS games, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Half-Life and Timesplitters 2 all have a special place in my heart right along with Mario 64, Zelda OoT and Sonic.
Its too far away
03-10-2005, 23:10
You can play xbox games on a 360, and you cant play xbox games on a PS3...lol

You can play some xbox games on a 360. Also why are the controllers so expensive. If your looking to play a multiplayer game with your friends for say 4 people (a bare minimum) you're looking at $120-$150 in controllers alone.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 23:16
The levels were repetetive and annoying, the weaponry poorly balanced, the PC port was so shoddy it could hardly play on lowest settings on a fairly solid PC, Multiplayer was fun only when everyone had a Warthog or a rocket launcher. The story was hackneyed, the setting so blatantly stolen from Ringworld Larry Niven should have got royalties and the flood were so ludicrously generic I just found myself sniggering.

I bought the PC version and played the Xbox version at a friends, i'd say I've played it yes.

And I do like FPS games, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Half-Life and Timesplitters 2 all have a special place in my heart right along with Mario 64, Zelda OoT and Sonic.

Really? Well, I guess youre entitled to your opinion, even though I must say I do not agree. I find the multiplayer levels in both Halo and especially Halo2 to be incredibly varied and I find that, if you are good with the weapons, that any combination can be a winning one. You really should play on an xbox, its a console game, especially H2, then you wont run into those problems. I dunno about the plot, I thought the Halo 1 and 2 (albeit a short one) kept suspense well, and had a fairly complex plot, but when it comes down to it, all FPS is basically the same (especially after Halo came out) From your response, it seems like you love to blow things up, and you really don't get the real experience only playing with Hogs and Rockets...besides, im not sure if you are referring to H1 or H2, so I'd hope youre referring to H1 because I don't see any merit in your arguments about H2, except perhaps the single player, but it really is meant to be a multiplayer game.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 23:19
You can play some xbox games on a 360. Also why are the controllers so expensive. If your looking to play a multiplayer game with your friends for say 4 people (a bare minimum) you're looking at $120-$150 in controllers alone.

Theyre Wireless. Buy the Wired Controllers if you want to save some $.(At least theyre ergonomic and not the boomerangs of PS3, but rumor is Sony is going to redesign those anyway) Plus, you can play any xbox games that are worth playing. All of the more popular and recent titles will be backwards compatable.
Sea Monkey
03-10-2005, 23:20
Their is a lot of fanboyism in this thread. Does any one remember that Xbox 360 had half as much power until E3 when Sony revealed the PS3? But more to a point you call the PS2 Cult based system. You know why ps2 and ps did well? It could relate to the casual gamer which is 50% of the market. By being easy to develop for you have more people set up contracts. And the casual gamer can get his odd ball game. The xbox loses a billion dollars a year and the 8 billion to develop the xbox and xbox 360. If it wasn't microsoft paying the bills xbox would die. Halo 1 was intovative and fun but Halo 2 was a poor sequal. And with Bill Gates giving Bungie a year to make Halo 3 I shutter to think of the quality. You guys/gals fail to see the revolution as a contender. If the casual gamer is the key this easy to use system will sell like hot cakes. Also it is cheaper to develop for making more game developers willing to spend money. More Developers will also want try and make a first with this tech also. But as gaming is today the only exclusives that are made are by the company agin this is nintendo's strong point.
Its too far away
03-10-2005, 23:21
Really? Well, I guess youre entitled to your opinion, even though I must say I do not agree. I find the multiplayer levels in both Halo and especially Halo2 to be incredibly varied and I find that, if you are good with the weapons, that any combination can be a winning one. You really should play on an xbox, its a console game, especially H2, then you wont run into those problems. I dunno about the plot, I thought the Halo 1 and 2 (albeit a short one) kept suspense well, and had a fairly complex plot, but when it comes down to it, all FPS is basically the same (especially after Halo came out) From your response, it seems like you love to blow things up, and you really don't get the real experience only playing with Hogs and Rockets...besides, im not sure if you are referring to H1 or H2, so I'd hope youre referring to H1 because I don't see any merit in your arguments about H2, except perhaps the single player, but it really is meant to be a multiplayer game.

I've played it on the xbox and its just not that great IMHO. The weapons are basic and unbalanced, they lack a certain complexity and after playing for a short amount of time I was able to master them and play on the same level as people who had played for years. Sorry but if I want to play a multiplayer FPS I'll play CS:S, you cant get much more multiplayer than that. For singleplayer storyline HL2 is the only option.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 23:25
Halo 1 was intovative and fun but Halo 2 was a poor sequal. And with Bill Gates giving Bungie a year to make Halo 3 I shutter to think of the quality.

I'll admit Halo 2's storyline wasnt as strong as H1 but it was a very good sequel for the multiplayer it provides. Just play H2 for awhile then go back to H1 and the difference is clear, there is no comparison. Plus, the reason H2 took so long as because of an unforseen error in the programming that caused the delay. H3 should be and will be amazing.\

Well, Dinner time for me now. Mmmmmm....steak....
Its too far away
03-10-2005, 23:25
Theyre Wireless. Buy the Wired Controllers if you want to save some $.(At least theyre ergonomic and not the boomerangs of PS3, but rumor is Sony is going to redesign those anyway) Plus, you can play any xbox games that are worth playing. All of the more popular and recent titles will be backwards compatable.

The wired ones are the reason I said $120-$150 with $120 being 3 wired ones. Not everyone likes the popular games, there are some very good games that just dont get the headlines that other games get and you shouldn't have to lug another whole consol around just to play them(especialy when its a monster like the xbox). The new controller is certainly odd but as you said hopefully they will come up with a better model and if not you can always buy 3rd party controllers, well 360 fans can't but thats life.
Kazyole
03-10-2005, 23:29
Last one then dinner...

There will be 3rd party controllers for 360, MadCatz owns the rights to Xbox controllers so there will be other options
Its too far away
03-10-2005, 23:32
Last one then dinner...

There will be 3rd party controllers for 360, MadCatz owns the rights to Xbox controllers so there will be other options

Nope all accessories have to be approved by microsoft, and they have a chip in the 360 to ensure this. MadCatz is working with their permission to make this controller, that is all. Why bother letting someone else take profits when they are losing sooo much money on them already.
Sea Monkey
03-10-2005, 23:35
Yeah, shi^^y controllers.
Axinon
03-10-2005, 23:45
im going to get a revolution, I think that Nentendo has the best exclusive games. I have no intrest in FPS like Halo and sony systems don't generally get a lot of good exclusive games. If I have the money I will buy the PS3 for sports games, because the controls feel more natural.

and don't bother arguing with me because I probably am never going to see this thread again.
Kiwi-kiwi
03-10-2005, 23:54
Well, seeing as the only games I actually play are the Myst series, the Sims (2), and a variety of old PC games (from Maxis and Sierra mainly)... A PC strikes me as a good bet. There is just no denying that I'm ultimately crap at most of the sort of games that you find on gaming consoles.
Sea Monkey
04-10-2005, 00:00
Well, seeing as the only games I actually play are the Myst series, the Sims (2), and a variety of old PC games (from Maxis and Sierra mainly)... A PC strikes me as a good bet. There is just no denying that I'm ultimately crap at most of the sort of games that you find on gaming consoles.

So...You are a fringe gamer? You are a tough crowd to please and a multipurpose thing like a PC would mostm definetly satisfiy you.
Sea Monkey
04-10-2005, 00:02
Well, seeing as the only games I actually play are the Myst series, the Sims (2), and a variety of old PC games (from Maxis and Sierra mainly)... A PC strikes me as a good bet. There is just no denying that I'm ultimately crap at most of the sort of games that you find on gaming consoles.

So...You are a fringe gamer? You are a tough crowd to please and a multipurpose thing like a PC would mostm definetly satisfiy you.
Kiwi-kiwi
04-10-2005, 00:29
So...You are a fringe gamer? You are a tough crowd to please and a multipurpose thing like a PC would mostm definetly satisfiy you.

I guess. Actually, I'm more of a passive gamer or something like that... I'm one of those weird people that doesn't so much enjoy playing a lot of games directly, but instead watches, assists and comments while my friends play. I've been like that since childhood, and it's a system that works fairly well, especially with RPG type games. I spot a lot of things that my friends might miss and such.

I also had the advantage of having one friend with an X-Box, and another friend with a PS2.
JuNii
04-10-2005, 00:31
Well, seeing as the only games I actually play are the Myst series, the Sims (2), and a variety of old PC games (from Maxis and Sierra mainly)... A PC strikes me as a good bet. There is just no denying that I'm ultimately crap at most of the sort of games that you find on gaming consoles.I love the old games... and when I mean old I mean old...

Space Quest, King's Quest, Lesure Suit Larry, Phantasmagoria...

even the old Lord of the Realms as well as the original Civ games.
Kiwi-kiwi
04-10-2005, 00:35
I love the old games... and when I mean old I mean old...

Space Quest, King's Quest, Lesure Suit Larry, Phantasmagoria...

even the old Lord of the Realms as well as the original Civ games.

Heh, I think out of those, I only ever played the King's Quest games... but I've played ALL of them. Except for the last one they made, but hell if you can actually consider that a real King's Quest game, running about and fighting weird monsters and collectly mushrooms for health. Tch. They turned it into your run-of-the-mill hack-and-slash video game.
Nova Roma
04-10-2005, 01:26
XBox 360.

I prefer controller to keyboard/mouse.

I'd rather spend money on a new console than upgrade my PC.

X-360 has my kind of games: FPS and that one RPG that will pwn - Oblivion.

XBox Live is definitely a deciding factor when it comes to choice between the consoles.
JuNii
04-10-2005, 01:31
Heh, I think out of those, I only ever played the King's Quest games... but I've played ALL of them. Except for the last one they made, but hell if you can actually consider that a real King's Quest game, running about and fighting weird monsters and collectly mushrooms for health. Tch. They turned it into your run-of-the-mill hack-and-slash video game.if you can get your hands on it, Phantasmagoria is Awsome. the first true "Horror" game.

and if you like King's Quest, then others you can try are...
Col. Bequest (Solve a Murder before it happens)
The Dagger of Amon Ra (Robbery and Murder)
11th Hour and 7th Guest (Myst-like mysteries to solve.)
Charlen
04-10-2005, 02:00
Meh, I'm still undecided, although slightly leaning toward the Revolution just because I know Nintendo has never made a bad game. At least not in a very long time...
Kazyole
04-10-2005, 02:02
XBox 360.

I prefer controller to keyboard/mouse.

I'd rather spend money on a new console than upgrade my PC.

X-360 has my kind of games: FPS and that one RPG that will pwn - Oblivion.

XBox Live is definitely a deciding factor when it comes to choice between the consoles.

Wow, I absolutely agree. You couldnt have articulated what Ive been trying to tell these people the whole time any better. Oblivion man...looks insane, and Halo 3, whenever it comes...360 will own PS3. Not to mention how much xbl is getting expanded on 360. By the way, Have you played Far Cry Instincts? Ita a very good game with some very interesting multiplayer innovations (predator mode/map editor, etc)
Kazyole
04-10-2005, 02:07
Meh, I'm still undecided, although slightly leaning toward the Revolution just because I know Nintendo has never made a bad game. At least not in a very long time...

Wow, just wow...never made a bad game...wow...the real problem is that they have no new games ideas or decent licenses, unless you count Mario, but how many years ago was that? Now, I'm an Xbox fan but will admit that they are fallable and that there are bad gamess on xbox as there are bad games on every system. The problem with Nintendo is their zealot cult following that for some reason is under the impression that Nintendo can do no wrong. By the way, you do realize that you won't be able to play some of your favorite 64 games on the Revolution right? Nintendo no longer owns the license to games like Goldeneye and many others, they were bought out awhile ago while Nintendo was still resting on its laurels and churning out more and more Mario games.
Sea Monkey
04-10-2005, 02:57
Wow, just wow...never made a bad game...wow...the real problem is that they have no new games ideas or decent licenses, unless you count Mario, but how many years ago was that? Now, I'm an Xbox fan but will admit that they are fallable and that there are bad gamess on xbox as there are bad games on every system. The problem with Nintendo is their zealot cult following that for some reason is under the impression that Nintendo can do no wrong. By the way, you do realize that you won't be able to play some of your favorite 64 games on the Revolution right? Nintendo no longer owns the license to games like Goldeneye and many others, they were bought out awhile ago while Nintendo was still resting on its laurels and churning out more and more Mario games.

Mario games? Why do people linger on that? Why would Nintendo waste money making new charactors that might flop and make a boring super realistic game? If you have played GT4 you soon find the hard physics take away fun and replace it with frustration. I need to see this cult because they don't exist, for I have never seen a true Nintendo fan say Nintendo has never made a mistake but makes jokes about them.

*Edit*After typing this I thought of something else, Nintendo wants to be the cheap second console you have and its cheap system is not competing to be number one but number two. Making money on each system sold helps them move on and continue.
The Soviet Americas
04-10-2005, 03:20
and Halo 3, whenever it comes...360 will own PS3.
My friends, who have never liked Halo from the start, came up with some "names" for all of the games. They called the first "Halo: Combat All Fagged Up and Queer." I didn't agree with that one because I thought the first game was excellent.

But then Bungie took a big fat shit and slapped the Halo 2 logo on it. My friends called this "Halo 2: Double Penetration."

I made up the third game's title already:

If Halo 2 was "Double Penetration," Halo 3 is going to be "Fill All Holes."
The Eastern Hemisphere
04-10-2005, 04:58
After the sheer crapness that was HALO 2, Bungie can take HALO 3 and go to hell, I'm getting PS3 and maybe a Revolution. Plus most of 360 games look like current gen PC games. Not only that, the games I really want on the 360 are coming out on the PC(Oblivion for example), no need for me to waste money on the 360 when I already a high end comp. And finally MGS4 is coming to the PS3.
Zanato
04-10-2005, 05:26
PC > Consoles.
Jiggerstick
04-10-2005, 05:41
PC, seriously. All this "Next Gen" shit really starts to piss me off at some points. Since when did shadowing and pixel count become a vital asset to the quality of a game? I still get a kick outta the old Genesis and Super NES, not to mention the classics like Doom. Hell, I enjoy a good roll of D&D from time to time, graphics engine = zero on that level. When it comes to the PC, even the most advanced games have a Pentium 3 as a minimum. That, and most MMORPG's are free, unlike the high ass subscription costs of Xbox live and all that. I can just see the ads for PS 4 or Xbox 480 in the upcoming years.."Bakes bread, flushes your tiolet, and even grills salmon to lemony perfection, all without a single loss of FPS" Please..
Ilura
04-10-2005, 08:59
The problem with Nintendo is their zealot cult following that for some reason is under the impression that Nintendo can do no wrong.
Are you kidding? As self-proclaimed Nintendo zealot cult follower, I can quite confidently say that they totally screwed up the Star Fox series. I mean, it used to be cool - even Slippy's annoying whining had a certain charm. Star Fox Adventures... well, OK, that one was made by Rare, but changing it into a semi-Star Fox game was ludicrous.

And Assault... well... the Arwing levels were cool but the rest was mediocre at best.

Anyway, in spite of this, I think I'll stick with the Revolution. Yes, I know, when I buy the next Metroid, Zelda, Fire Emblem or even Kirby I'll just be slavely following along with Nintendo's titles. But, then again, they do tend to be quality titles, so I don't really care.


Nintendo no longer owns the license to games like Goldeneye and many others, they were bought out awhile ago while Nintendo was still resting on its laurels and churning out more and more Mario games.
Goldeneye was made by Rare. Now, I don't know how the whole license gig goes, but wouldn't that give Rare the license?
But yes, in a sense, Nintendo did lose that license when Rare went over to Microsoft.

Oh yes, and the two Metroid Prime games have been made by Retro Studios, but I doubt they actually sold the Metroid franchise to them.

Ack, I'm getting confused here. Which big licenses did they lose? Final Fantasy?
Lands of Ages
04-10-2005, 09:09
I agree PC's are the PS400 or the Xbox 7200 or the Nintendo Finale .. whatever your choice. They will always rule.
Evil Woody Thoughts
04-10-2005, 09:29
Meh. The only reason why I have an xbox is because I wanted a dvd player for the tv that I wanted for my new, gloriously single roommate-free dorm room.

Last year, I had a roommate and he brought his tv/dvd player; this year I had to supply my own if I wanted it at all.

Therefore, I got an xbox (yeah having to buy the remote as a separate accessory was t3h sux0rz) so I could both watch dvds on it and play a few games that my pc doesn't have the specs to run efficiently (Sid Meier's 'Pirates' for example).

But, in general, I believe PC pwns consoles. I have about 40 games for my PC and three for my Xbox, and I don't expect to get more than one or two more xbox games. It's almost only a dvd player for me.

Oh, and I should mention I bought the x-box just this summer, so I won't be getting a next-gen console for a while, if ever ;)
Mariehamn
04-10-2005, 09:45
:gundge: PC! WOOT! :gundge:

But a DVD player...troo dat. I have to play sport games on a consol, but, I almost never do, so PC!
Cromotar
04-10-2005, 09:52
I for one am going for Revolution, mostly because I like Nintendo's games best, and also because I'm looking forward to such an entirely different method of playing.

All this talk about performance and graphics gets annoying. It seems people are only after graphics lately. What good are graphics if the game is boring?
Asengard
04-10-2005, 09:55
Nintendo Revolution for me! Nintendo make the best games. Although I'm in no rush (luckily) I'm still enjoying my Gamecube.
Plus I don't have a HD TV and I won't be getting one so Revolution games will look just as good as PS3 or X360 HD ones to me.
Svalbardania
04-10-2005, 09:57
Im loyal to Xbox because its better, in specs and games (I'm an FPS fan), but Xbox does have some crazy RPGs. Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion anyone? Nintendo also will do poorly, they havent had anything new since 64. I think within the coming years we will see the death of Nintendo at least in the home console market. Even in handhelds, I do admit that the PSP is a far cry (hey, another great game) ahead of Nintendo

Does the word 'gamecube' mean anything to you?
Verdant Forest
04-10-2005, 10:02
im getting all 3 system..

ive owned almost all Concoles since the Orignal NES, im a game to the core, i need all 3, they are all going to have difrences....

but what i am REALLY looking for is the next-gen Nitendo's "Contolers", for those who dont know, its basicly like a TV remote! only the System seas Exacly where you are pointing at the screen, apprently is super sentative,

its going to be fun playing the next Metriod tittle on THAT thing i can prommise you that!
Straxos
04-10-2005, 10:06
I love my PC gaming, but I'm quite excited about the Rev. Sony and Microsoft have perfected the standard fare of console gaming, and I've gotten quite bored of the cookie-cutter offerings in that area. (Once a genre is perfected, there's little room for innovation and change.) For that reason, I'm quite excited about the Rev. I can't wait to see all the new gaming concepts that crop up around a motion-based controller.

Thank FSM that there's someone out there still willing to take risks and try something different.
Cowbreed
04-10-2005, 10:10
Well... Neither Microsoft or Sony are companies I want to buy _anything_ from, so PS and XBox have no chance.

Besides, the Revolution will probably be the only console that has a sensible price - and likely the best controller. Or, at least, a very unique one.


And when it comes to Pen&Paper, I clearly prefer Earthdawn. :P
Quasaglimoth
04-10-2005, 10:29
in our house we currently have:

PC (mine)
PS2
Xbox
gamecube
saturn

while i like some computer games (everquest) i dont think the comfort level is there with the pc as i have to sit at the keyboard. ive never found a pc controller i liked,and many of the games have bugs....

ive played the Xbox. the system was hyped. the graphics are good,but not leaps and bounds ahead of the competition as it was originally forecast. mediocre game titles...

saturn: died during birth

the gamecube games frankly suck. how many mario and starwars games can a person swallow anyway?

the graphics on the ps2 hold up well against the xbox,and it has a buttload of titles from different genres. (backwards compatibility will do that... :P )

the ps3,from what i have read is going to be backwards compatable with the previous 2 PS systems,and it will have 35 times more power than the ps2.

35 times more power and all the games from the previous 2 systems. yeah. the ps3 will be getting my money....
Little rubber duckies
04-10-2005, 16:30
gotta go with xbox360...better graphics than the other consoles, runs faster than a computer...i love my xbox and can't wait for the xbox 360 to come out...i do like the sims games better on the PC...but that is only one game and there are many games i like better on the xbox such as halo, dead or alive 3, soul caliber 2, Fable, and Morrowind...and the ones that are also on PS2 or PC just don't have as good graphics...xbox 360 all the way!!
Lewrockwellia
04-10-2005, 16:37
Nintendo Revolution, even though I hate the name.
OceanDrive2
04-10-2005, 17:20
it will have 35 times more power than the ps2.

35 times more power and all the games from the previous 2 systems. yeah. the ps3 will be getting my money....Will buy the PS3 for sure...
Anarchic Christians
04-10-2005, 17:37
Firstly, you only have Sony's word for '35x the PS2'.

Secnd, what will it really bring to your game?

Third, that power will never be used because no-one has the cash or teams to use it. They'll only use a percentage of that power.

Sorry to blow up any bubbles folks.
Kazyole
04-10-2005, 19:38
Does the word 'gamecube' mean anything to you?
Ha! Gamecube...how quaint...
The Soviet Americas
04-10-2005, 20:03
Ha! Gamecube...how quaint...
Ha! Consoles since 1998! How quaint...
JuNii
04-10-2005, 22:00
Well... Neither Microsoft or Sony are companies I want to buy _anything_ from, so PS and XBox have no chance.

Besides, the Revolution will probably be the only console that has a sensible price - and likely the best controller. Or, at least, a very unique one.
of that I will admit. Nintendo does get the prize for unique designs..

who here remembers
Light Gun
R.O.B
PowerGlove
Virtual Boy

and the light gun was the only one to remain and be adopted by other consoles.

well, we'll see how their remote Controller will work.
Anarchic Christians
04-10-2005, 22:44
of that I will admit. Nintendo does get the prize for unique designs..

who here remembers
Light Gun
R.O.B
PowerGlove
Virtual Boy

and the light gun was the only one to remain and be adopted by other consoles.

well, we'll see how their remote Controller will work.

How about the 3d stick/ That seems to have made a small impact, like forcing Sony to change their controller, nothing major. And the rumble pack was theirs too, that went nowhere eh?
JuNii
04-10-2005, 22:54
How about the 3d stick/ That seems to have made a small impact, like forcing Sony to change their controller, nothing major. And the rumble pack was theirs too, that went nowhere eh? third stick?? not Sony that I know of. you might be thinking of the N64. and the thumbstick wasn't that big a change for Sony/Sega/Xbox. small design change infact to incorporate the two thumbsticks. as well as the rumblepack.

and the Rumble Pack was originally Nintendo's Idea. it was attached to a strap that one puts on the wrist. (Seen commercials for it in Japan, and the people were playing StarFox.) and again they are included in the standard Sony controller, not a major change. Btw. never mentioned that all changes are bad, just that Nintendo is known for being the first to bring them out.
Asengard
07-10-2005, 10:15
The analogue stick was the greatest inovation in the last generation. Just imagine trying to play games these days without one - or two!
Revasser
07-10-2005, 10:41
For me? PC. Why? Because I don't like any of the modern consoles. Mostly because I dislike control pads and there seems to be a real lack of any games on them that suit my tastes. Consoles seem to attract juvenile crap even worse than PC does, unfortunately.
The Parkus Empire
07-10-2005, 11:30
PC and then Nintendo, are my choices