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Another videogame thread, by me!
This time, the topic is (drum roll)............CHEAP VIDEOGAME BOSSES!!

Some of my nominations:

-Nemesis-Resident Evil 3-"STAAAARRRSSSS!!" Smack, smack, grab, throw, grab again, head stab, oh, look, you're dead! Better load your game again, huh? Oh, yeah, did I mention his weakest form takes a good 60 OR SO BULLETS FROM YOUR STARTING BARETTA to die and he has a rocket launcher? Did I mention he can follow you from room to room? Did I mention he has to be fought THREE times with the first having been irreversably "poisoned" (your health slowly decays over time), the second with a time limit and the last with a sort of "mini-puzzle" and 2 short WMD charge up period needed to kill him (with a missile about to hit the city, of course) and even THEN he comes back and you have to choose to shoot him in a live selection before he kills you automatically to FINALLY kill him for good, did I mention that?

-The Boss/The Joy-Metal Gear Solid 3-She has a Patriot machine gun and has devasting hand-to-hand attacks that reduce both your health and stamina. God help you if you're fighting her at Hard or higher differculty.

Add your own, comment, etc.

Well, this one in R-type 3 was funny. Not cheap, but funny.

http://mortal.shang.free.fr/images/shmup/consoles/super%20nes/r-type3_boss.png

Dodge what suspiciously looks like semen in what suspiciously looks like it may be a diseased uterus. With a red eye.

-Zankuro-Samurai Showdown-It may be true that Zankuro can kill just about anyone in two hits; but as cheap as this is, he's a product of the system. Samurai Shodown 3 and 4 are notorious for their liberal uncapping of damage. Two or three well-timed counter attacks can kill just about any character no matter who you're playing as. Zankuro's just a normal character in that respect. With SS4, the developers try to even things out by giving everyone two life bars. Thus, Zankuro becomes significantly less cheap. But on the other hand, less cheap isn't the same thing as not cheap! Case in point, his super move can practically kill someone at full health (two life bars) in one hit! Thankfully, he doesn't use it often. And when he does, it's easy to block. His biggest surprise is in SS3 though. Imagine having the best luck in the world and actually defeating Zankuro. You'd think that the game would offer congratulations or something. But no! Zankuro gets up and FIGHTS YOU AGAIN! That's like playing someone rock paper scissors and then letting him switch to best two out of three when they lose. Cheap bastard.

-Jet Black-Viewtiful Joe 2-This is what I imagine the designers' conversation would be like when discussing this boss: "Hey, Lennie, make the player fight this boss' first form without VFX abilities and have his virtually undodgable ninja stars take off two hearts which would equal about a sixth of his life bar, so the margin for error is slimmer then the difference between me and your average gorilla!" "Won't that make people have heart attacks from the immense fustration that will ensure, making the game unsafe to play?" "Yeah, it won't make the game UNSELLABLE!" "Brillant, Phil! Now, let's go sell crack to school children!"

I haven't tried any of these games yet as I tend towards world domination thru massive armies and cities type games but I am deriving great ammussement reading this thread! Keep it coming!

Well, this one in R-type 3 was funny. Not cheap, but funny.

http://mortal.shang.free.fr/images/shmup/consoles/super%20nes/r-type3_boss.png

Dodge what suspiciously looks like semen in what suspiciously looks like it may be a diseased uterus. With a red eye.
Or a diseased "one-eyed trouser snake"!

Mithos Yggdrasill's final form from Tales of Symphonia. For his second-to last form he had a resistance to about 5 elements and no weakness, and as the final form he had less HP and no resisances. WTF?

Or a diseased "one-eyed trouser snake"!

No, it's definitely inside the uterus.

I don't recall a penis boss in the game, but I wouldn't be surprised. I never got past halfway, anyway.

Anubis from Zone Of The Enders. That has to rate as the worst videogame ending of all time. 'Anubis fucks you up! Um...Buy the sequel!'

Fire Leo from Viewtiful Joe, one of those bosses where if you didn't figure out the single attack that would actually work, you were totally screwed. Every. Single. Time.

Yatsurao from Shinobi. Well, you know a boss is cheap when the most dengerous things about him are a dodgy camera angle and a pool of water right in front of him you kept falling into because of it. Grr.

I don't recall a penis boss in the game, but I wouldn't be surprised. I never got past halfway, anyway.

Finished it. If you count the snakes from the infamous Snake's Nest boss, then yes.

Dark Kyle in 'Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith'.

You could fight him in the first encounter but in the second one you have to stand in front of a picture and turn off your lightsaber. Apparently this brings him back to the light side. :confused:

Oh, the ultimate cheap boss was the Mirror Image in Prince of Persia on the Amiga. Had to put your sword away and walk into him, otherwise he just kicked your ass.

Cheapest gaming *situation* is a tie between Metal Gear Solid's 'back of the CD case' [you were told a Codec frequency was on the back of the CD case in-game, but had no CD case in your inventory. And yes, it was a screenshot on the case the game came in, for Christ's sake] and the 'push the reset button to defuse the bomb' puzzle in X-Men for the Mega Drive / Genesis.

Yes, you had to get up, walk over and push the reset button on the console itself to defuse the bomb. Ludicrous.

Yes, you had to get up, walk over and push the reset button on the console itself to defuse the bomb. Ludicrous.

Did anyone play Simon the Sorceror 3D? There was a puzzle where you had to put a cd into a computer that contrlled the entire universe but had no cd drive. You had to push the cd button on your computer to open it.

Stupid game. :headbang:

Crazy Hand (SSBM) - on the left
http://ssbm.detstar.com/eventmatch/match50.jpg
Okay so in the middle of battling the already cheap Master Hand, after cutting his HP in half this jerk appears. Then they tag-team up on you with a number of one-hit KOs if you're not careful.

El Gigante-resident Evil 4. Lots and lots of health and power.
guy with long, metal nails-redident evil 4. Lots of health, lots of power, and fast.
SpiderGuardian-Matroid Prime 2: Echoes. Annoying puzzle boss. Morph ball was not designed for platforming or puzzles involved with platforming.
Butcher-Home Alone 2: Lost in New York. Flawed game gives him infinite health.

Wiegraf / Velius, Final Fantasy Tactics.

"Alright, hrm. We already make them fight Wiegraf, who's almost without a doubt stronger than their main character, and we're already making them use ONLY the main character. So when they beat him, he turns into a huge demon. And gets more demons. And has ungodly powerful attacks. And so do his demons. Oh, and he has tons of HP too."

Cheapest gaming *situation* is a tie between Metal Gear Solid's 'back of the CD case' [you were told a Codec frequency was on the back of the CD case in-game, but had no CD case in your inventory. And yes, it was a screenshot on the case the game came in, for Christ's sake]

But after a while of arseing around, they gave you the frequency. How nice.

Cheapest boss? Emerald WEAPON from FFVII. At least he was optional.

But I also hated Kergan from Arcanum. What happens is this:

You confront him. He turns into a giant snake thingy. You hack away at him until he turns back into a human and hides in his regenerative bubble. Then you use the Vendigroth device on him or that big falchion you find. The death FMV shows Snakey kicking the bucket, not human him.

Or you convince him to kill himself. But you still fight him, despite what the dialouge suggests.

The eye of sauron in the 3rd age. He barely even hurt you. And he was an eye! :sniper:

The eye of sauron in the 3rd age. He barely even hurt you. And he was an eye! :sniper:

Did they have sniper rifles in those days?

Dark Zelda in Ocarina Of Time. HOLY SHIT THAT TOOK ME A LONG TIME!

Pyschomantis in MGS. *DITTO*

Dark Samus in Metriod Prime. *SAME*

Whats with bosses that know your every move?

Son Of A Gun in Chrono Trigger. SERIOUSLY, WTF! That guys hard as hell.

Dagoth Ur (somethin like that) Morrowind. I took me a while to realize i had to use the hammer and axe on the heart. I didn't read the manuals vivec gave me :D

Brute Leader Dude From halo 2. Only problem i have with him, THE GOD DAMNED GUY WITH THE RIFLE CANT AIM FOR SHIT!!!!!

Final Boss in Onimusha. I can beat the final bosses in all the others, WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I BEAT THIS ONE?!?!?! I JUST CAN'T!

The Lesser Strain Mother in the 7th (final) Tier of the 5/10 Rogue Drone Complex in EVE.

You can clear out the first six tiers with a handful of competent battleship pilots, but that thing, omfg. Fires citadel torps, and I've seen screenshots of it tanking ten Apocs with Tachyon racks. Took that group 15 minutes to kill it, it was tanking hundreds of hp per seconds. :eek:

Suffice it to say, I have abandoned any ambitions of killing it. It is so out of proportion for a 5/10 ... I'd hate to see a 10/10, those aren't in game yet. But judging by the difficulty ramp, the Devs are going to add bosses whose sole purpose will be to give a handful of very lucky and determined people a glimpse of themselves before they kill you.

Dagoth Ur (somethin like that) Morrowind. I took me a while to realize i had to use the hammer and axe on the heart. I didn't read the manuals vivec gave me :D

That's not really a cheap boss just because you never paid attention. :p The game told you how to defeat him repeatedly before the final battle. And you could always just knock him all the way down into the volcano and then take your sweet time destroying the heart.

Letss see...


Two from the same game.


The tentacals from half-life. You had to walk as quiet as poissble and yet break down a door to get to a place were you kill then with a metal crowbar.


The final boss the Ninlath

Ok There was no way in hell you could have known that the two crystals on the wall made him invincable until you destory them without reading a damn guide book. took me a month to beat him. Most stressful days of my life.

The tentacals from half-life. You had to walk as quiet as poissble and yet break down a door to get to a place were you kill then with a metal crowbar.

What, the doors or the Tentacles?

And I agree, they were a bugger. Remember, throw grenades. It distracts them.

Sherudo Garo from Time Crisis. I could never hit the bastard with his I throw auto hit knives while JUMPING BETWEEN OBJECTS BEFORE I CAN FIRE!

Sin from Final Fantasy X. - Get all the uber weapons, get all the spells, power up by fighting the Monster Creator's Creations, then go after the big bad fish... three spells later, sin's dead.

What, the doors or the Tentacles?

And I agree, they were a bugger. Remember, throw grenades. It distracts them.
Getting down to the lower levels past the tentacles is easy, because you throw a grenade at the obstruction covering the ladder hole, then another across the pit to draw away the attention of the tentacles, crawl forward and drop through the gap, throwing a second grenade across the gap for additional distraction.

Now try getting back up to the control room. No gravity-assist. You can't drop through the hatches, you have to climb the ladder. Which takes time and makes a hell of a noise even after the distraction grenade explosion has died down.

One time, I just said fuck this, saved progress and RAN! And made it. *Phew*

And yeah, the Nihilanth or whatever that giant foetus was called, would have been annoying as hell had it not been for the spoilers provided by a friend a week previously. Dropped a full load of Snarks into his brain. Eat that, motherf-----!

The tentacals from half-life. You had to walk as quiet as poissble and yet break down a door to get to a place were you kill then with a metal crowbar.

Nope, you could throw a grenade at it, then another to distract them away from it while you went through.

Ok There was no way in hell you could have known that the two crystals on the wall made him invincable until you destory them without reading a damn guide book. took me a month to beat him. Most stressful days of my life.

IIRC, weren't there flashes of light from the crystals to Nihilanth when he used them? I'm sure I beat Nihilanth without using a guide...Was a while ago, tho.

There was this one boss in Halo that I could not beat. My friend called it the "Main Menu". I just couldn't beat it, for the life of me.



Kidding. No, really! :D

Sin from Final Fantasy X. - Get all the uber weapons, get all the spells, power up by fighting the Monster Creator's Creations, then go after the big bad fish... three spells later, sin's dead.

He also had a "manufactured" time limit of sorts.

The ironry is that this boss is infinitely harder then the final boss (even the biggest Final Fantasty n00b could beat that guy with some decent characters).

Last minute add to the thread topic: let's also talk about weak and cruddy bosses!

Some of my nominations:

-Slick/Simon-River City Ransom-River City Ransom's final boss is a pushover, especially in two-player mode. Essentially, the entire gang is headed by a fellow known only as Slick. Since no one would ever name their child Slick, it's obvious from the start that it's an alias. As it turns out, this Slick is actually Simon, the heroes' former best friend who for some odd reason decided to walk down the evil path and become the kingpin of school crime. Hilariously enough, he's also the leader of such "evil" cliques as the JOCKS and the FRAT GUYS. Simon is first and foremost a criminal mastermind (in a loose sense of the word) having orchestrated Cyndi's kidnapping and the school riot. But judging from his lack of fighting skill, I'm surprised his cronies, the Dragon Twins, didn't stage a coup. They're infinitely harder to defeat than their fearless leader and so hardcore they have their own theme song. If anything, THEY should be the final encounter, not Simon. Unlike the twins, Simon has no special moves whatsoever. He just plain sucks. Essentially, he's a copy of Ryan and Alex, the game's protagonists, but is limited to their normal punch and kick attacks. He has neither Dragon Feet nor Stone Hands. Let's not even mention Acro Circus and Fatal Steps. Plus, River City Ransom is mostly played by two people so nine times out of ten, the Slick battle becomes a two-on-one slaughter. And to make things even easier, Alex and Ryan can freely leave the roof whenever the battle's not going their way.

-Mary/Maria Incubus-Silent Hill 2-Me, after beating her: "What the hell was that?!"

Fire Man from Mega Man 1. His whole level, from beginning to showdown in the Wily Garage, will forever be remembered with much hate.

Ok, It's not really a boss, but I have to nominate the Brachiosaur from FFIV. Unless you're like level 80, the damn thing can take you down in a single blow if it uses Ultima, or draw out your demize a little with a good hit from Disaster. :mad:

Emerald Weapon? Please. He was a pushover if you knew what you were doing (Underwater Materia, 3 Mimes, KOTR, W-Summon, and Phoenix with Final Attack). Now Ruby, that guy was a bitch. Even with a Ribbon equipped, he could paralyse a character. In a single blow he could drain all of your MP. If you attacked with anything other than magic/summons, he tossed that character from the battle. And no matter what you did, NOTHING hurt him if his hands weren't buried in the ground, which can sometimes be a while. :headbang:

Two from another one of my favorite games: Golden Sun.

Star Magician: Not only does this bastard get three attacks per round, he can have up to 4 minions attacking you at the same time. If he gets a Guardian ball, you can hardly get into the triple digets in damage :mad: , and a Recovery ball heals up to 1,000 in damage. :eek: :headbang:

Dullahan: Same as the Star Magician, he gets three attacks per round. He can drain all the Djinn of a single character in one hit, has access to the strongest spells in the game, and can summon one of the two strongest summons in the game REPEATEDLY. GOD I HATE HIM!

Ok, I'm better now.

Final Boss in Onimusha. I can beat the final bosses in all the others, WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I BEAT THIS ONE?!?!?! I JUST CAN'T!

Is that the snake thing?? I beat it on my first try.

The Alien leader from the first X-Com. Even with a hacked game, him and his minions made hash meat of my soldiers and HWP's like they weren't there.

Fire Man from Mega Man 1. His whole level, from beginning to showdown in the Wily Garage, will forever be remembered with much hate.

Why?

Streets of Rage, on the Mega Drive. It wasn't the final boss that sucked (although his gun was annoying and "Would you like to be my henchman?" Yes/No question that dropped you back three levels if you got it wrong was absolutely ridiculuous). It was those two bitches who were outside his door. One would've been stupidly hard on her own, but two?!?

The final boss on Ninja Gaiden (the NES version, not the remake)

Kintaro from Mortal Kombat II

Moloch from Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance

The Alien leader from the first X-Com. Even with a hacked game, him and his minions made hash meat of my soldiers and HWP's like they weren't there.

Which one? The end game "boss" certainly wasn't tough. (I don't want to spoil it incase you haven't won it)

Getting to him, however, was a rather difficult mass of bloodied plasma-fried corpses, mutated soldiers, and exploded body parts. Which was fun.

The Sectoid (gray) leaders were a bitch, because of their psychic powers, and the Ethereal leaders for the same reason, except they were even tougher.

Man I love that game.

Ok, It's not really a boss, but I have to nominate the Brachiosaur from FFIV. Unless you're like level 80, the damn thing can take you down in a single blow if it uses Ultima, or draw out your demize a little with a good hit from Disaster. :mad:

You must be confused. I own FFIV, and there is no Brachiosaur enemy (I've beaten the entire game many, many times). Moreover, Ultima isn't in the game. I think you mean FFVI.

Joker from Persona 2. Damnable worst boss ever right in the beginning of the game. Took me forever to kill that prick.

The NES Dragonlance game. That game will be forever loathed.

Moloch from Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance

Agreed, you can't throw him, can't juggle him, can't take more than 10 hits from and even when you get him "KO'd", he doesn't fall down but rather just growls and stomps around a lot. :mad: Cheap son of a...

Wiegraf / Velius, Final Fantasy Tactics.

"Alright, hrm. We already make them fight Wiegraf, who's almost without a doubt stronger than their main character, and we're already making them use ONLY the main character. So when they beat him, he turns into a huge demon. And gets more demons. And has ungodly powerful attacks. And so do his demons. Oh, and he has tons of HP too."

Rubbish. You've obviously never heard of the doomsday combination for solo combat. Combining the skill sets of yell and accumulate, you could get 6 turns for his every one and deliver a single knockout punch with your bare hands with more fury then a thermonuclear device.

Then you go to the next room with your massive speed bonus (which is retained), and proceed to punch people into orbit ;)

Now THAT's cheap.

-The Boss/The Joy-Metal Gear Solid 3-She has a Patriot machine gun and has devasting hand-to-hand attacks that reduce both your health and stamina. God help you if you're fighting her at Hard or higher differculty.

You didn't find The Sorrow to be several million times cheaper? It's kinda unfair to force you to guess to use the Revival Pill...

that split faced worm thingy in the basement of the school in the original silent hill. you have to stand right in front of it and wait for it to open its maw then try to shoot its tonsils without being swallowed whole. easy enough if you play the wimp setting,but a real challenge on normal and all but impossible on hard. i never beat the game on hard because of that damn worm.....

Emerald Weapon? Please. He was a pushover if you knew what you were doing (Underwater Materia, 3 Mimes, KOTR, W-Summon, and Phoenix with Final Attack). Now Ruby, that guy was a bitch. Even with a Ribbon equipped, he could paralyse a character. In a single blow he could drain all of your MP. If you attacked with anything other than magic/summons, he tossed that character from the battle. And no matter what you did, NOTHING hurt him if his hands weren't buried in the ground, which can sometimes be a while. :headbang:

Please, I eat Weapons for breakfast. Ruby was a cinch.

Baelrog- LotR; The Third Age.

Not only was this game filled with plot holes, had a crap Multiplayer and made mince meat of poor JRR Tolkeins story, you also had to fight the nigh on impossible Baelrog of Moria, the only way this was possible to do was to leave the rest of your team to die and just use Gandalf, the up-side is that you can do evil mode and play as the Baelrog, they stand no chance :)

Dr.Robotnik

he has a funky name and funky them music

Dr.Robotnik

he has a funky name and funky them music

Several of his incarnations were increidably annoying but none of them were particualrly cheap.

Nope the cheapest bosses ever have to be all the people you face in the Jaken (paper scissors stone) matchs in Alex Kidd in miracle world, unless you memorised the right moves for each boss you could never defeat them even if you had the telepathy ball...

The Dr. Kreiger from Farcry. Super-strong, armed with a p90, infinite grenades, able to turn invisible, jump across the entire room in a single stride, and kill you with a single hit of his pimp-ass claw. On top of that Val is in the room with you, crippled with mutagen and unable to defend her self. You'll die when she does, so don't bother using any blast weapons. Some times kreigers grenades will hit her randomly killing you instantly. And if thats not enough he's also got five of his elite minions with him. Nasty.

And once you killed him you had to kill thousands of big boys and hu-gens, folllowed by another two squads of elites, all armed with rocket launchers and jackhammers. I shudder just thinking about it.

Streets of Rage, on the Mega Drive. It wasn't the final boss that sucked (although his gun was annoying and "Would you like to be my henchman?" Yes/No question that dropped you back three levels if you got it wrong was absolutely ridiculuous). It was those two bitches who were outside his door. One would've been stupidly hard on her own, but two?!?

Seconded. That last level was ludricious. You had to fight two of every boss in the game over again. And again if you said yes.

The elevator level before it was great fun though.

Which one? The end game "boss" certainly wasn't tough. (I don't want to spoil it incase you haven't won it)

Getting to him, however, was a rather difficult mass of bloodied plasma-fried corpses, mutated soldiers, and exploded body parts. Which was fun.

The Sectoid (gray) leaders were a bitch, because of their psychic powers, and the Ethereal leaders for the same reason, except they were even tougher.

Man I love that game.

There was this Ethereal somewhere in the game it seemed, every time I played. I always ended up with maybe one soldier left, all 3 HWP's destroyed, and usually a mission that I ended up having to scrap simply because this one Ethereal always managed to escape detection long enough to most of my squad no matter how many others I killed.

Usually, I'd end up with my last, wounded squaddie setting down proximity grenades and such around the ship to keep him from coming in. I'd hear them go off, but this one Ethereal would somehow keep going.. Which is kind of odd, because I swore once you got an ethereal isolated from it's friends, they went down easily enough, especially with laser or plasma weapons for some reason.

But somehow, I'd always end up with this one base attack mission where one would survive, and kill off my people in it.

Last minute add to the thread topic: let's also talk about weak and cruddy bosses!

Not sure this counts, but I would say any of the last three or so bosses in FFVII. Talk about a broken game "Hmm...lets give them a spell that calls all of King Arthur's nights to do maximum damage, one after the other, then lets give them a spell that lets them cast it three times at once, then lets let them have the rest of their party do the same!" I swear, the guides for the final bosses in FFVII should have said "Equip Knights of the Round with triple on the first member of your part, equip repeat on the next two, start combat, make sandwich, come back and watch end credits."

Mother Brain-Metroid(NES)-you first have to waste missiles on the Zebetites, which grow back if you don't shoot them fast enough. Then, you have to fight the boss herself. If you fall in the lava, it's almost impossible to get out. All this while you're under constant attack from the Rios(which tend to push you into the lava trap) and those gun turret things.

Queen Metroid-Metroid II(Gameboy)-One method requires that you fire missiles into her mouth. You can only do this when she tries to eat you. For most of the battle, you have to continuously screw attack just to avoid taking damage. She does alot of damage. I mean alot. This requires a minimum of 150 missiles out of a maximum of 250. You'll most likely need more because you will miss.

The other method is quicker, but riskier. When she tries to eat you, fire a missile. If her mouth is open, she'll freeze temporarily. If not, you'll take damage. Once she's frozen, morph into a ball and jump in her mouth. You will take damage. Roll into her stomach and place three bombs. She'll spit you out. Repeat until she dies.

Nightmare-Metroid Fusion(Gameboy Advance)-This boss will be hard the first few times, especially if you haven't gotten all the energy tanks that you can. The first part is easy. Then, it gets a bit harder. The boss will greatly increase the gravity levels. You won't jump as high, the whole place is wavy, and only beam weapons can hurt him since missiles just fall to the floor. Avoiding his beams can get hard due to the gravity. You can only hurt his turret and your beams can't penetrate his arms, meaning that you have to time your shots perfectly. After that, it gets alot harder. The gravity will return to normal. Grab the ladder and shoot his now-unprotected face. Once he gets close enough, he'll start floating around. He can go through walls.

Sin from Final Fantasy X. - Get all the uber weapons, get all the spells, power up by fighting the Monster Creator's Creations, then go after the big bad fish... three spells later, sin's dead.

HA! You make me laugh with your pathetic excuse for a cheap boss of FFX

On the PAL version of FFX only, there were a series of ultimate bosses called "Dark Aeons". These guys were incredibly hard - even Dark Valefor, the easiest one, had 800,000 hp. The only real way to beat them was to use an exploit whereby you could gain about 30 lvls per battle with Tonberry and max your characters stats, use weapons which broke the damage limit and get Wakka to repeated use his reels limit break, which hit for 99,999 damage 16x if done perfectly and with maxxed stats.

I managed to kill most of them, but I couldn't do the dark magus sisters, and just paid Yojimbo loads for a Zanmoto which kills anything in one hit. After you kill them all, a new place on the map appears called "Penance". He's even worse than the dark aeons, and again I just paid Yojimbo loads to do a Zanmoto on him.

Saddler-RE4.
This guy was stupid.
Throughout the entire game, you get the impression that this guy's invincible, and then he turns into this stupid creature that's easy-ass.

Can't edit, but these are Penance's stats:

MAIN BODY:

HP: 12,000,000 (12 million). Overkill: 99,999.
Strength: 255
Defence: 240
Magic: 255
Magic Def.: 200
Agility: 255
Luck: 10
Evasion: 0
Accuracy: 255

Elements: Absorbs all.
Status Effects: Immune to all except the positive ones.
Zanmato: Lv. 4
Steal: Elixir x 1 (Normal) Megalixir x 1 (Rare)
Drops: Master Sphere x 3 (Normal & Rare)
Bribe: No.
Ability Slots: 3-4
Abilities Attached: 1-2
Weapon Abilties: Break Damage Limit
Armour Abilities: Break HP Limit, Ribbon

RIGHT ARM/LEFT ARM:

HP: 500,000. Overkill: 99,999.
Strength: 200
Defence: 200
Magic: 150
Magic Def.: 200
Agility: 150
Luck: 10
Evasion: 120
Accuracy: 255

Elements: Absorb all.
Status Effects: Immune to all except the positive ones.
Zanmato: Lv. 4
Steal: Dark Matter x 1 (Normal) Master Sphere x 1 (Rare)
Drops: Dark Matter x 1 (Normal) Master Sphere x 1 (Rare)

Gods I dont know how you stood FFX extra parts like dark aeons. You have to spend loads more hours into the game to do that......

Goddamn, I've never even played FFX and I'm afraid of Penance... :eek:

Fricking Mike Tyson in Mike Tyson's Punch Out was biggest pain in the ass ever. You had to have split second perfect timing or the bastard would knock you out in one punch. He was always faster than you, and his timing was insane. He evaded your uppercut EVERY TIME.

I still haven't beat that damn game.

pretty much all the Mega Man Bosses after 3 were a piece of crap. Even after the 2nd mega man now that i think about it.

That big bull thing in Doom 3... It's so hard to figure out even what to do other than run away unless you get a strategy guide, at which point it's still hard.

Every 8th and 9th fight in Tekken 2 (you know what I'm talkin about). Hardest fights I have ever played in any fighting game not against a person.

Hackers in any online FPS. And the people who don't leave their houses and thus have ridiculous skills.

y3s, ph33r my 2k1llz...

Diablo - Zhar the Mad. Unless you wanted to waste 10 minutes chasing the bastard around the entire fricking level, you'd better hope he spawned in a room with a door, and that you closed the door before fighting him.

Diablo - Deathspit. Not so much him himself, but he spawned with 30 goddamn Acid Beasts. I swear, it took me at least a half hour to clear them out.

Diablo - Any of the Goat Archer or Succubus uniques. They were faster than you. They ran whenever you got close. They did insane amounts of damage. The only way to get them to stop running was to pin them in a corner and stand at the exact angle that prevented them from running.

Diablo II - Diablo. Unless you know what that hand gesture means, he'll take you out in one shot, unless you're a barbarian or a paladin with lots of lightning resistance. Even then, I've taken around 300 damage from that damn move.

The final character from Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal. Just hacked your way through five dragons and some ridiculous hordes of high-level NPC's without respite? Well, I hope you have something left for a fortieth level wizard.

Seymour III in Final Fantasy X. Easily the hardest boss in the game for the character strength. Also, when you have to fight Kimarhi's friends if you don't use him is just plain shit.

I thought that Sin, the Dark Aeons, and Yevon were simplistic. All you had to do for Sin was use Tidus' overdrive and possibily Anima. For the Aeons, you kill all of them with Anima, except for Bahamut. Once all of them are dead, save Bahamut, you fight Anima. Use Yuna's Grand Summon on Bahamut and kill Anima. Defeating Bahamut with just your characters is easy. As far as Yevon goes, it is impossible to lose. You have unlimited auto-life. My friend and I once got bored and decided to see if there was a limit on how many we had. We got killed and revived 36 times before we decided that it was unlimited.

I thought that Sin, the Dark Aeons, and Yevon were simplistic. All you had to do for Sin was use Tidus' overdrive and possibily Anima. For the Aeons, you kill all of them with Anima, except for Bahamut. Once all of them are dead, save Bahamut, you fight Anima. Use Yuna's Grand Summon on Bahamut and kill Anima. Defeating Bahamut with just your characters is easy. As far as Yevon goes, it is impossible to lose. You have unlimited auto-life. My friend and I once got bored and decided to see if there was a limit on how many we had. We got killed and revived 36 times before we decided that it was unlimited.

What you refer to as the Dark Aeons are not the same thing i'm talking about. The Dark Aeons only appear in the PAL version of the game - near the end of the game a different Aeon guards each temple. You're talking about the ones right before the last boss right?

Oh, another cheap boss i've thought of - Doom 2. That massive goat head thing which fires boxes full of enemies. I was stuck on that for a while before realising you had to shoot rocket launchers through his head. After i'd won, I tried putting on no clipping mode and walking through the goat...it turns out there's a human head on a spike there. Apparently it's one of the staff members at the development team, and the evil devil speech you hear is him talking, slowed down and reversed. The reason you need to use rocket launcher is because it's a bit below the actual opening in the forehead, so need to do area damage to hit him.

Pyramid head from Silent 2 isn't particuarly hard..but you face him all throughout the game and he's impossible to kill, which gets very annoying. The worse bit is when he chases you through the corridor with Maria behind you - you have to run real quick or shoot him or Maria gets speared. And in the end, you don't even kill him - he impales himself on his own spear. Annoying, but he's undoubtedly a very cool boss. I love that game.

sephirof from kingdom hearts

you have to be at like level 70 with the ultma weapon to beat him

The final character from Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal. Just hacked your way through five dragons and some ridiculous hordes of high-level NPC's without respite? Well, I hope you have something left for a fortieth level wizard.

You could rest between the fights. It's not rocket engineering.

Although Demogorgon (same game) was a pain in the ass. Stupid Time Stop immunity.

sephirof from kingdom hearts

you have to be at like level 70 with the ultma weapon to beat him

Agreed, he was pretty tough - though the cool music made it a bit more bearable.

Also, another FF 'optional but very hard boss' - Ozma from FFIX. There are guides up suggesting you have to have all your characters at lvl 99 to beat him. Whilst it's a lot easier to do it that way, I did it with my highest level being 45. You just have to keep your party alive and get Quina to use magic hammer to drain his mp - it takes a while, but he soon runs out and can't cast the nastier spells.

Not really a boss, but the last level of Dune 2...

Extremely hard with Harkonnen or Atreides, but impossible with Ordos.... if you even made it that far.

Ordos sucked

Not really a boss, but the last level of Dune 2...

Extremely hard with Harkonnen or Atreides, but impossible with Ordos.... if you even made it that far.

Ordos sucked

No way near as hard, but the original C&C last level on GDI was pretty funny. Nod have 2 main bases and other smaller bases scattered throughout the level. I captured the first main base and began to scout on the other. It was lucky I captured and didn't destroy the first base. As soon as you attack the temple of nod, you hear a "Nuclear warhead approaching" sound and the screen goes white. I panicked, but my captured base was fine. However, my original starting base was simply no more - only the troops you get when a building is destroyed were within the walls, and it's a pretty big base. Definitely the most effective "super weapon" of all the C&C games...the ones nowadays just tend to blow up a few buildings.

No way near as hard, but the original C&C last level on GDI was pretty funny. Nod have 2 main bases and other smaller bases scattered throughout the level. I captured the first main base and began to scout on the other. It was lucky I captured and didn't destroy the first base. As soon as you attack the temple of nod, you hear a "Nuclear warhead approaching" sound and the screen goes white. I panicked, but my captured base was fine. However, my original starting base was simply no more - only the troops you get when a building is destroyed were within the walls, and it's a pretty big base. Definitely the most effective "super weapon" of all the C&C games...the ones nowadays just tend to blow up a few buildings.
They tried in C&C Tiberian Sun.... But then ALL weapons got superweapons and you just had to know where the base was and you could shoot it from the other side of the map..... LAAAAME


Oh and one reason why the Nuke worked in C&C was because you couldn't build far apart (unless you built walls in between). :p

The Impostors on Skies of Arcadia. Cutlass Fury and Anita Burst every damn round. I traded the game in the day before I learnt how to beat them.

OK so you can complete the game without beating them but then you are stuck with being The Fallen Pirate which really sucks.

OK so you can complete the game without beating them but then you are stuck with being The Fallen Pirate which really sucks.
HEY! :(

HEY! :(

Sorry mate but I prefer legendariness to evilness. Legless Pirates, badass as they are just can't chase villains half as well.

The first time you meet the Orc Warlord in Champions of Norrath.

He's tough, mainly cos you meet him very early in the game and your character sucks at this point, basically one hit from him is a kill. And if you happened to have taken the wizard character, then you really are screwed, no ranged weapons, no decent melee damage and your spells are rubbish this early in the game. Plus it didn't help that the area you fought him could have either two staircases (slightly easier as you could run up and down each staircase avoiding his attacks) or if you were really unlucky, just a single staircase, in which case you were truly screwed.

What you refer to as the Dark Aeons are not the same thing i'm talking about. The Dark Aeons only appear in the PAL version of the game - near the end of the game a different Aeon guards each temple. You're talking about the ones right before the last boss right?
You're not talking about FFX-2? that one you have to fight the Aeons guarding the temples.


Diablo, the butcher. open the door to activate him, then immediately close the door.

then cast wall of fire in the room... layering it one after another. after a while, you hear him die.

You're not talking about FFX-2? that one you have to fight the Aeons guarding the temples.


Nah - I never reached the end of FFX-2. I played it for a while but i'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to roleplaying games, and since it was *so* non liner I spent ages doing stuff like getting loads of the dresspheres mastered and getting all the Al Bhed primers from the desert right at the beginning of the game. Got boring. Plus it reminded me of Charlies angels far too much.

Here's a link for an FAQ on the Dark Aeons.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_x_dark_aeons.txt

Mother Brain-Metroid(NES)-you first have to waste missiles on the Zebetites, which grow back if you don't shoot them fast enough. Then, you have to fight the boss herself. If you fall in the lava, it's almost impossible to get out. All this while you're under constant attack from the Rios(which tend to push you into the lava trap) and those gun turret things.

Queen Metroid-Metroid II(Gameboy)-One method requires that you fire missiles into her mouth. You can only do this when she tries to eat you. For most of the battle, you have to continuously screw attack just to avoid taking damage. She does alot of damage. I mean alot. This requires a minimum of 150 missiles out of a maximum of 250. You'll most likely need more because you will miss.

The other method is quicker, but riskier. When she tries to eat you, fire a missile. If her mouth is open, she'll freeze temporarily. If not, you'll take damage. Once she's frozen, morph into a ball and jump in her mouth. You will take damage. Roll into her stomach and place three bombs. She'll spit you out. Repeat until she dies.

Nightmare-Metroid Fusion(Gameboy Advance)-This boss will be hard the first few times, especially if you haven't gotten all the energy tanks that you can. The first part is easy. Then, it gets a bit harder. The boss will greatly increase the gravity levels. You won't jump as high, the whole place is wavy, and only beam weapons can hurt him since missiles just fall to the floor. Avoiding his beams can get hard due to the gravity. You can only hurt his turret and your beams can't penetrate his arms, meaning that you have to time your shots perfectly. After that, it gets alot harder. The gravity will return to normal. Grab the ladder and shoot his now-unprotected face. Once he gets close enough, he'll start floating around. He can go through walls.

Against the Queen the stun while biting attack is the best way to kill it. sure you get hit but you're able to pump about 10+ missiles into it by the time it bites.

Remember vs Nightmare when its mask is broken a rapid missile barrage may damage it to the point where the face is brown and drooping. Space jump towards the middle to have it become solid at ideal altitude for missiles. 2 or 3 such barrages are all you need.

I agree with the statement about the original Metroid... Its a bitch to beat the Brain. Especially since the rinka's don't give items...

The Darkman robot with the barrier shield [I call it Jogger] was a pest due to the fact you'd have to fire at the right moment.

Against Darkman [the final one] use Beat and keep moving Beat should kill it before it kills you!

They tried in C&C Tiberian Sun.... But then ALL weapons got superweapons and you just had to know where the base was and you could shoot it from the other side of the map..... LAAAAME


Oh and one reason why the Nuke worked in C&C was because you couldn't build far apart (unless you built walls in between). :p

I'm suprised no one mentioned the infamous Allied Mission 13 from Red Alert 1. Infantry only in the complex, 30 minutes to turn off all the gas generators. But this time you don't got Tanya to help you out. An attack dog can ruin your day that and the radar jammers in the start.

Nightmare-Metroid Fusion(Gameboy Advance)Nah. That fucking spider-thing was a bigger pain in the ass. And the thrill of RUNNING LIKE HELL from your clone until the end.

Personally, I'm still pissed at Ace Combat 5. I shoot Hamilton down every time, but somehow he gets another plane and flies into hell just to chase me down a tunnel. Bitch should stay dead.

Nah - I never reached the end of FFX-2. I played it for a while but i'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to roleplaying games, and since it was *so* non liner I spent ages doing stuff like getting loads of the dresspheres mastered and getting all the Al Bhed primers from the desert right at the beginning of the game. Got boring. Plus it reminded me of Charlies angels far too much.

Here's a link for an FAQ on the Dark Aeons.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_x_dark_aeons.txt
Playing it now... getting 100% on all dresspheres I have.

did the same for FFX... when I got bored, went to beat Sin and all the boss fights were less than 4 rounds.

because by that time, everyone could cast Black Mage spells, had break 9999, double cast, and 1 MP Cost.

there is a downside to getting everything... :(

Nah. That fucking spider-thing was a bigger pain in the ass. And the thrill of RUNNING LIKE HELL from your clone until the end.

Personally, I'm still pissed at Ace Combat 5. I shoot Hamilton down every time, but somehow he gets another plane and flies into hell just to chase me down a tunnel. Bitch should stay dead.Quote from Hot Shots:
"Come to think of it, I never landed a plane in my whole career"

another cheap boss was the underwater weapon(emerald i think) in ff7. for some reason always a huge pain in the ass for me.