This is my rifle.
Serapindal
02-10-2005, 01:38
There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend.
It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
My rifle, without me, is useless.
Without my rifle, I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot straighter than my enemy,
who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me.
I will.
My rifle and myself know that what counts in war,
is not the rounds of fire,
the noise of our burst,
nor the smoke we make.
We know it is the hits that count.
We will hit.
My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life.
Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
I will learn its weaknesses,
its strengths,
its parts,
its accessories,
its sights and its barrel.
I will ever guard it against
the ravages of weather and damage.
I will keep my rifle clean and ready,
even as I am clean and ready.
We will become part of each other.
We will.
Before God I swear this creed.
My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country.
We are the masters of our enemy.
We are the saviors of my life.
So be it, until there is no enemy,
but Peace.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/SchwererGustav.jpg
The South Islands
02-10-2005, 01:39
Ummmm...Thanks?
Pure Metal
02-10-2005, 01:41
"my country" = good
"my enemy" = bad
ah, so simplistic, this 'nationalism' lark :rolleyes:
It's not just nationalistic, it's also a gun safety advertisment! :)
Neo Kervoskia
02-10-2005, 01:42
I tell that to myself every day.
If you are going say that, use the correct rifle...
http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/038074000/38074113/pix57240735.jpg
Serapindal
02-10-2005, 01:45
If you are going say that, use the correct rifle...
http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/038074000/38074113/pix57240735.jpg
WTF? ONly n00bs use the M16.
REAL men use the...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg
XM8!!!
If you are going say that, use the correct rifle...
http://nas4.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/038074000/38074113/pix57240735.jpg
Everyone knows that you don't need a poem to remind yourself that the M-16 needs to be cleaned everytime it's exposed to air... :rolleyes:
WTF? ONly n00bs use the M16.
REAL men use the...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg
XM8!!!
BTW, the XM8 is no longer in the experimental stages anymore. M8 designation is expected as it goes into mass-production and service in the US Armed Forces. ;)
Cannot think of a name
02-10-2005, 01:52
Ah, everytime I see someone doing that prayer I think, "Someone didn't entirely get that movie."
Eutrusca
02-10-2005, 01:52
There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend.
It is my life.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/SchwererGustav.jpg
You, sir, are a bit of a nutcase! :D
New Genoa
02-10-2005, 01:55
This is my rifle, this is my gun
This is for fighting, this is for fun
"my country" = good
"my enemy" = bad
If they're you're enemy, doesn't that make them bad by default? Certainly you wouldn't consider having an enemy as good, would you?
Serapindal
02-10-2005, 01:57
BTW, the XM8 is no longer in the experimental stages anymore. M8 designation is expected as it goes into mass-production and service in the US Armed Forces. ;)
The Funny Thing is, is that Germany is making the XM8. :D
Super-power
02-10-2005, 01:59
Wait, isn't that the largest artillery cannon built by the Allies during WWII?
The Funny Thing is, is that Germany is making the XM8. :D
Well, to be pedantic, though H&K is a German company, it went bankrupt during the ACR program developing the G-11 and was purchased by Britsh interests. ;)
And what's so funny about Germany making the rifle?
Pure Metal
02-10-2005, 02:00
This is my rifle, this is my gun
This is for fighting, this is for fun
If they're you're enemy, doesn't that make them bad by default? Certainly you wouldn't consider having an enemy as good, would you?
no not necessarily, just it is a very simplistic view. especially with the implied goodness on the 'my country' part.
but then i'm tired so i might just be being cranky & picky for no real reason ;)
New Granada
02-10-2005, 02:02
how precious
New Genoa
02-10-2005, 02:08
no not necessarily, just it is a very simplistic view. especially with the implied goodness on the 'my country' part.
but then i'm tired so i might just be being cranky & picky for no real reason ;)
I agree that the "my country" doesn't always have to = good (though that's what I usually consider, it's some of the things that some people do that pisses me off more), but enemy to me just always = bad... I mean, it IS your enemy. ;)
Serapindal
02-10-2005, 02:27
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Hitler didnt like the French, either.
And Hitler breathed to. Your point?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/SchwererGustav.jpg
Great, all this talk of guns and war got the artillery piece all excited. Just give it some time and it'll go back down.
WTF? ONly n00bs use the M16.
REAL men use the...
*IMG snip*
XM8!!!
The XM8 is dead sexy yo!
Arribastan
02-10-2005, 03:00
Is anyone reminded of the MY STEEL PENISES WILL PROTECT ME thread?
Note: I've found it in the archive! http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274352
Finally, somebody comes up with something that's intelligent.
Good job Serapindal. I absolutely love FMJ.
Everyone knows that you don't need a poem to remind yourself that the M-16 needs to be cleaned everytime it's exposed to air... :rolleyes:
Funny, I have had no problems with mine.
Funny, I have had no problems with mine.Granted, they're a lot more dependable now. It didn't help that the PAF got M-16 "leftovers" when I served.
Granted, they're a lot more dependable now. It didn't help that the PAF got M-16 "leftovers" when I served.
I am sorry...
Mine is a new one, hasn't jammed once.
Fight the blogs! Use HTML!
hell yeah.
and make it validate, you whore
Hitler didnt like the French, either.
Who does?
Beer and Guns
02-10-2005, 04:01
This is my rifle, this is my gun
This is for fighting, this is for fun
If they're you're enemy, doesn't that make them bad by default? Certainly you wouldn't consider having an enemy as good, would you?
ahhhh I know some who sing the song thustly ;
This is my rifle
this is my gun
This ones for pleasure
this ones for fun
:D
Neo Kervoskia
02-10-2005, 04:03
Is anyone reminded of the MY STEEL PENISES WILL PROTECT ME thread?
Note: I've found it in the archive! http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=274352
Wow, GMC seemed so lively then.
Unspeakable
02-10-2005, 08:41
If a rifle doesn't have a bayonet stud it's a fucking toy. :p
WTF? ONly n00bs use the M16.
REAL men use the...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/XM8-Poster.jpg
XM8!!!
Daistallia 2104
02-10-2005, 10:05
BTW, the XM8 is no longer in the experimental stages anymore. M8 designation is expected as it goes into mass-production and service in the US Armed Forces. ;)
Oopsie. Not quite yet. It was put on hold because the bids weren't competitive. And apparantly the military is rethinking the requirements for the whole program.
XM8 status update (September 2005): Following several complains about non-competitive procurement of the XM8 system from Heckler-Koch USA, US Army first opened the bidding for contract to other companies, and then, in the July 2005, suddenly suspended the entire OICW Increment 1 program to re-think the entire set of requirements for the possible replacement of current M16 rifles and M4 carbines. These requirements will be re-viewed as Joint Services effort. At the present time, it seems that development of HK XM8 is suspended; it may be resumed if XM8 suit the new US Joint Service Requirements for a new assault rifle system; or, it may not. We will watch this process closely and update this article when new information will be available.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm
Other sources seem to confirm this:
In budget documents released at the beginning of this year, the army set aside US$32.5 million to buy 10,400 XM8 carbines in Fiscal Year 2006. That procurement is now on hold pending the competition.
http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/jdw/jdw050520_1_n.shtml
Personally, I don't like it. It's basically still an OICW component, and that whole program was bad. In addition, another 5.56 mm weapon (which is what's being planned as far as I know) is the wrong way to go. Now if they go with the 6.8 SPC like some sources (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/688cartridge.asp) have hinted at being a possibility, it's a whole nother ballgame.
Oopsie. Not quite yet. It was put on hold because the bids weren't competitive. And apparantly the military is rethinking the requirements for the whole program.
LOL! This wouldn't be the first time the US Army has screwed H&K on R&D :P
Personally, I don't like it. It's basically still an OICW component, and that whole program was bad. In addition, another 5.56 mm weapon (which is what's being planned as far as I know) is the wrong way to go. Now if they go with the 6.8 SPC like some sources (http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/688cartridge.asp) have hinted at being a possibility, it's a whole nother ballgame.
Don't blame H&K for the whole OCIW fiaso. Alliant Tech System built the 20mm grenade launcher, there was nothing wrong with the 5.56mm rifle. It's a solid rifle technology, and I'm glad the US is wising up and going German instead of rehashing the AR systems.
Non Aligned States
02-10-2005, 11:29
You, sir, are a bit of a nutcase! :D
Naah, he's obviously compensating for something. :p
Daistallia 2104
02-10-2005, 11:38
Skyfork, are you having trouble with quotes tonight? ;)
I'm not blaiming any companies at all. The problems almost entierly lie (sometimes literally *lie*) within the funny shapped building in Arlington...
The 5.56 mm does have a weight advantage, and carrying more ammunition was advantagious when the US relied on conscription and couldn't afford to train up the combat forces to the standards they are trained up to today. But now, with the more effectively trained forces, I think it's time to move back to a heavier bullet. 6.8 mm or 6.5mm would make a nice medium between the light 5.56 and the heavy 7.62.
Armorvia
02-10-2005, 16:31
The 6.5 would be nice, but a return to 7.62x51mm would suit me just fine. I fired the M14 in the service, and that is one great rifle!
Sdaeriji
02-10-2005, 16:35
Someone didn't get the real meaning of that movie....
Eutrusca
02-10-2005, 16:40
Naah, he's obviously compensating for something. :p
Heh! Makes you wonder what, eh? :D
Daistallia 2104
02-10-2005, 17:14
The 6.5 would be nice, but a return to 7.62x51mm would suit me just fine. I fired the M14 in the service, and that is one great rifle!
Never fired the M14, but I have fired the M-1 - she kicks like a right proper SOB, even tucked in! (I'll take a 12 G over her anyday.) But the 7.62 N sure does make a nice big purty hole way the heck out yonder. :)
Non Aligned States
02-10-2005, 17:30
Heh! Makes you wonder what, eh? :D
Well, that's easy to figure out. Look at the picture. It's something long, obviously phallic, and related to big discharges. Well, I think I don't have to say more now do I? ;)
Well, that's easy to figure out. Look at the picture. It's something long, obviously phallic, and related to big discharges. Well, I think I don't have to say more now do I? ;)
As I said;
"Eurgh. Phallic Imagery."
Just read this part again:
"My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life.
Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
I will learn its weaknesses,
its strengths,
its parts,
its accessories,
its sights and its barrel.
I will ever guard it against
the ravages of weather and damage.
I will keep my rifle clean and ready,
even as I am clean and ready.
We will become part of each other.
We will."
Eww.
As I said;
"Eurgh. Phallic Imagery."
Just read this part again:
"My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life.
Thus, I will learn it as a brother.
I will learn its weaknesses,
its strengths,
its parts,
its accessories,
its sights and its barrel.
I will ever guard it against
the ravages of weather and damage.
I will keep my rifle clean and ready,
even as I am clean and ready.
We will become part of each other.
We will."
Eww.
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!