Anorexia and Bi Chicks: A connection?
Vegas-Rex
02-10-2005, 01:23
This may be just a coincidence, but almost every bisexual girl I know is very thin, and many of them are anorexic. If this is actually a widespread trend it seems to validate my theory of how people get to like stuff, namely by association. According to that theory many of these girls would be getting their desire for women through their desire for men, and thus would apply similar standards to women as they apply to men. Women tend to like men trim and angular, so these bisexual girls are applying those same standards to modify their attraction to women and thus their own ideal image. Thus instead of allowing attractive curves to develop they attempt to lose weight to fit what attracts them to either gender.
If this isn't a real trend and most bi chicks like curves, I stand corrected.
I’m going to get flamed for this, but I’m going to state theories of mine.
Many young bisexual chicks ( I reserve the right to be as politically incorrect as I choose) are only bisexual because guys like it. They are only bisexual to attract guys. This is not a conscious thing, but a subconscious thing, just like anorexia. It only makes since that these two conditions would accompany each other, as they are a result of wishing to be appealing to guys, sometimes.
Another explanation is required for the control anorexics. The ones that are more conscious of their anorexia because they wish to control something in their lives, so they choose to control food. Maybe these people also try to control their sexuality?
I am in no way implying that all bisexual chicks are anorexic, faking it to get attention or have the control issues that sometimes accompany anorexia. A friend of mine is bisexual, and she has none of these traits. Hell, maybe Vegas-Rex is just making up this shit about anorexic bisexuals.
I just thought up this bull now, so find the holes in my logic y’all.
Vegas-Rex
02-10-2005, 01:48
In some ways I agree with your first point, though I think it's more mutually reinforcing. My idea is that even anorexic girls who aren't bisexual are weighing their own sexual appealingness by their standards, not by guys' standards. Like I said before, most guys like curves, at least to a certain degree. We don't particularly like angularity. The fact that anorexics think we do (I'm reminded especially of an anorexic bi chick I know who asked a friend whether her shoulderblades looked hot) implies that they are using their standards for men, rather than men's standards for them, to judge their own appearance. Sometimes this manifests as bisexuality, other times it stays in the realm of eating disorders.
Amestria
02-10-2005, 01:50
Here's my two cents: It is a scientific fact that more girls are bisexual then men (so it is more likly that the girl you know is bisexual then say your male friends).
Anorexia is an eating disorder, and many people suffer from eating disorders (men and women, Hitler for instances had an eating disorder). Eating disorders are often linked to peer pressure and societies picture of how one should look (Hitler for instance wanted to fit his image of the thin fit aryan). One of my friends had an eating disorder (broke a blood-vessal in her eye) and as far as I know she was not a bisexual.
Anyway how do you know Bi/Lesben women don't like curves?
Vegas-Rex
02-10-2005, 01:58
Here's my two cents: It is a scientific fact that more girls are bisexual then men (so it is more likly that the girl you know is bisexual then say your male friends).
Anorexia is an eating disorder, and many people suffer from eating disorders (men and women, Hitler for instances had an eating disorder). Eating disorders are often linked to peer pressure and societies picture of how one should look (Hitler for instance wanted to fit his image of the thin fit aryan). One of my friends had an eating disorder (broke a blood-vessal in her eye) and as far as I know she was no a bisexual.
Anyway how do you know Bi/Lesben women don't like curves?
I don't know whether its a general principle, it could just be the ones I know. I'm pretty sure its true of them, though, as evidenced by this comment from a bisexual friend of mine: "Well he said his girlfriend is a double D, as if that means anything!"
This may just be a trait of the particular bi chicks I know, though.
BTW, how do you break blood vessels in your eyes via eating disorders?
SilverCities
02-10-2005, 02:07
I am a bi-woman, I have lots o' curves and love it... in fact I am only attracted to bigger, curvy, BBW women..... *shrugs*
Amestria
02-10-2005, 02:12
"Well he said his girlfriend is a double D, as if that means anything!"?
That may simply be an opinon of personal taste...
BTW, how do you break blood vessels in your eyes via eating disorders?
Ask a doctor, it can be done.
Coconutella
02-10-2005, 02:13
One good way to burst blood vessels in your eyes is vomiting.
Vas Pokhoronim
02-10-2005, 02:16
None of the Bi girls I've ever known - and I have led a blessed life, having known a lot - were anorexic by any stretch of the term. Many were pretty curvy.
It's just the ones you know.
Neon Plaid
02-10-2005, 02:21
Well, my ex, who I'm still very, very good friends with, is a bisexual, and she's nowhere near anorexic. In fact, while not fat, she's a little big. And while she does, at times, think of herself as fat, she's never, to my knowledge, thought of starving herself. In fact, she loves food, as she's said time and again. So I don't really think there's a necessary connection. And I disagree with the argument that bi chicks are that way because it's what guys want. She complained to me, when we first started going out, about the fact that a lot of guys she had dated were only with her cause they wanted to see her make out with another girl.
Vegas-Rex
02-10-2005, 02:43
Hmm...looks like I was wrong. Though my theory could, with some adaptation, still be applied if most of the people you guys are talking about are naturally lesbian/bi and most of the people I'm talking about became lesbian/bi. In that case it could be that while the people I'm talking about are channeling their desire for women through their desire for men, the people you're talking about base their desire for women off of an actual biological drive towards women that uses similar standards as straight attraction to women. Or I could be completely off the mark. Thoughts?
Well, my ex, who I'm still very, very good friends with, is a bisexual, and she's nowhere near anorexic. In fact, while not fat, she's a little big. And while she does, at times, think of herself as fat, she's never, to my knowledge, thought of starving herself. In fact, she loves food, as she's said time and again. So I don't really think there's a necessary connection. And I disagree with the argument that bi chicks are that way because it's what guys want. She complained to me, when we first started going out, about the fact that a lot of guys she had dated were only with her cause they wanted to see her make out with another girl.
Stop being polite. She isn’t here. Call her fat.
Economic Associates
02-10-2005, 03:02
Stop being polite. She isn’t here. Call her fat.
You don't seem to be one for subtly are you Undelia?
Stop being polite. She isn’t here. Call her fat.Classy.
Most, but not all, of the bi girls I've known had a lot of messed up stuff in their life. They tend to be attracted to people, both men and women, that make them feel good about themselves, in my experiences.
Most, but not all, of the bi girls I've known had a lot of messed up stuff in their life. They tend to be attracted to people, both men and women, that make them feel good about themselves, in my experiences.That's not messed up. Messed up is being attracted to people who make you feel like shit.
Grave_n_idle
02-10-2005, 07:44
Most, but not all, of the bi girls I've known had a lot of messed up stuff in their life. They tend to be attracted to people, both men and women, that make them feel good about themselves, in my experiences.
Surely, unless you live in some paradise community... or unless you get lied to AL OT... most of the bi AND non-bi girls AND boys have had a 'lot of messed-up stuff' in their lives.
It's human nature. Shit happens.
You may not have noticed but most humans ARE attracted to people who make us feel good about ourselves - it has nothing to do with bisexuality... or any other gender orientation.
I haven't noticed a trend one way or another.
If anything, the bisexual women I know tend to be in the middle, rather than either extreme.
Grave_n_idle
02-10-2005, 07:54
This may be just a coincidence, but almost every bisexual girl I know is very thin, and many of them are anorexic. If this is actually a widespread trend it seems to validate my theory of how people get to like stuff, namely by association. According to that theory many of these girls would be getting their desire for women through their desire for men, and thus would apply similar standards to women as they apply to men. Women tend to like men trim and angular, so these bisexual girls are applying those same standards to modify their attraction to women and thus their own ideal image. Thus instead of allowing attractive curves to develop they attempt to lose weight to fit what attracts them to either gender.
If this isn't a real trend and most bi chicks like curves, I stand corrected.
You stand corrected.
Most of the women I have ever met have been occassional partakers of the fruits of their own gender... as, actually, have most of the men - although women seem more likely to admit it.
And, one thing I've noticed, is that there seems to be no one 'type' that ANY gender grouping 'goes for'... people just find certain other people attractive.
Cabra West
02-10-2005, 21:34
I am a bi-woman, I have lots o' curves and love it... in fact I am only attracted to bigger, curvy, BBW women..... *shrugs*
Great. That makes two of us :)
Froudland
02-10-2005, 21:55
I'm a voluptuous bi-chick too and I lurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrve curves! All the women I've been into and who have also been bi have also been curvy and been attracted to other curvy women. I wouldn't say I'm into big women, I like the hourglass figure and while a little overweight atm, I pretty much have that figure myself. I've never met a skinny bi woman, and I wouldn't neccessarily know if they had an eating dissorder. I did meet an incredibly thin gay woman once, the tall type, she shaved her head and was very thin boned, carried the look well. Have no idea if she was anorexic or not.
I think it may just be the women you've met :)
Civil Harmony
03-10-2005, 15:48
I've known big butch beefy bi babes, boney bi babes, big boobed bi babes, big bellied bi babes, and all the alliteration in between.
Austadia
03-10-2005, 15:58
Here's my two cents: It is a scientific fact that more girls are bisexual then men (so it is more likly that the girl you know is bisexual then say your male friends). Scientific fact eh? Have you got a source for that?
I'm pretty sure that it's very difficult to actually get a good idea of population percentages when it comes to sexuality, because (though we're getting better) there is still a lot of social stigma and a lot of queers are 'in the closet'.
More likely is that bi chicks are more likly to be open about it. In my experience bisexuality tends to be more socially aceptable for females that for males.
Peisandros
03-10-2005, 16:12
This may be just a coincidence, but almost every bisexual girl I know is very thin, and many of them are anorexic. If this is actually a widespread trend it seems to validate my theory of how people get to like stuff, namely by association. According to that theory many of these girls would be getting their desire for women through their desire for men, and thus would apply similar standards to women as they apply to men. Women tend to like men trim and angular, so these bisexual girls are applying those same standards to modify their attraction to women and thus their own ideal image. Thus instead of allowing attractive curves to develop they attempt to lose weight to fit what attracts them to either gender.
If this isn't a real trend and most bi chicks like curves, I stand corrected.
A very good point, and perhaps right in many cases..
Before going out with me, my gf had an eating disorder. I've come to know also that she is a little bi-curious. However, I think she was just a little low on self-confidence after some bad relationships and had nothing at all to do with her curiousity in girls. She doesn't have an eating disorder now.
The few actual bi-sexual girls I know are not anorexic, but not exactly fat either. Seeing in movies and media etc that "all men" go for the skinny girl, and also most lesbians shown in movies happen to be skinny and small, can suck younger vulnerable bi-sexuals into thinking they too have to be skinny to attract both males and females. It is, of course, flawed in many aspects. However, a very interesting point.
Swimmingpool
03-10-2005, 20:00
More likely is that bi chicks are more likly to be open about it. In my experience bisexuality tends to be more socially aceptable for females that for males.
I've heard about that too, actually. I hear that men tend to go for extremes. That is, men tend to be either straight or gay, clever or stupid, whereas women tend to moderate in the middle.
Celestial Kingdom
04-10-2005, 14:27
Scientific fact eh? Have you got a source for that?
I'm pretty sure that it's very difficult to actually get a good idea of population percentages when it comes to sexuality, because (though we're getting better) there is still a lot of social stigma and a lot of queers are 'in the closet'.
More likely is that bi chicks are more likly to be open about it. In my experience bisexuality tends to be more socially aceptable for females that for males.
A scientific fact in medical literature states a rather stable percentage of homosexuality (between 5-10% of all males or females), i.e. seeking sexual gratification only with same-sex partners, a fairly large number had homo/bisexual encounters while being generally heterosexual. Bisexuality as a life-form for getting sexual gratification is much rarer.
And yes, the female/male ratio in anorexia is about 9:1 or higher...so it´s a matter of statistics there are more anorectic bisexual women than men...personally I could not support your position, but as aforementioned this is just a biased, personal experience, not to be mixed with poplation statistics