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This is something of a special edition of Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit?, as I am going to request that my readers amend the list that will follow shortly. The list refers to one basic concept, and stems from a post I made not so long ago. The concept: quit bitching about racism.

People are trying to say that the government is racist, and that is why New Orleans was handled so poorly. What a fucking crock of shit. The slow reaction had nothing to do with most of the victims of Katrina being black; it had to do with their being poor. Get it the fuck right. There's a good goddamn chance prejudice played a role in the fucked up situation there, but it sure as hell wasn't racially based.

People are trying to say that Bill Bennett was being racist for his statement that aborting all black babies would reduce in a drop in crime rate. Well, no fucking shit it would! That's not racism, that's statistical fact. If all Mexican babies were aborted, illegal immigration would become less of a problem in the U.S. If all Asian babies were aborted, China would stop growing so fucking fact. If all white babies were aborted, Mother Nature wouldn't be so pissed off at us. If all white babies were aborted, there would be less incest. If all white babies were aborted, there would be fewer lawyers.

Now, I'm sure that both Bill Bennett and everyone involved with Katrina fucking us up so badly is racist as well, but those things don't explain why. Everybody is racist, whether he or she wants to admit it or not. All these annoying accusations of racism being passed around lately are starting to piss me off. Who the fuck cares if someone is racist? I'm racist. You're racist. We're all racist. We can't help it. As long as you're not going around clubbing people with a crowbar because they're not the same color as you, I have no problem with you being as racist a prick as you want to be.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit?

Here are some possible reason that they actually are racist, as opposed to bullshit fabricated ones made up by racist people that think they're morally pure. Feel free to add to the list if you like.


If you support (racially based) affirmative action, you're racist, as you believe that certain races are not able to compete with others in a level setting.
If you use the term "African American," but call yourself "white," you're racist, because you assume that a black guy is going to be offended by an incorrect color label while a white guy isn't.
If you've ever been worried while driving through suburbs largely inhabited by a race other than yours because the majority didn't look like you, you're racist.
If you call yourself a kike, ******, cracker, or spic, but are offended when others do it, you are racist.
If you just thought to yourself, "I wonder if he threw in cracker just to cover his ass," you're racist.
If you have ever written "kike, ******, cracker, or spic," and added your own race strictly to cover your ass, you're racist.
If you say "the 'N' word," instead of ******, but you still say "cracker" in reference to a white guy, you're racist.
If you say derogatory words in private, but not in public, you're racist.
If you've ever said, "I'm not racist, I've got tons of black friends," you're racist.
If you've ever said, "I love [insert racial group]," you're racist.
If you accidently find yourself in the ghetto, and immediately assume that it is inhabited by a specific minority group, as opposed to minorities, you're racist.
If you've ever noticed that most criminals shown on TV are black or hispanic, you're racist.
If you just thought to yourself, "Why did he say hispanic instead of Mexican - is he covering his ass?" you don't know what hispanic means... and you're racist.
If you think that being racist requires being white, you're racist.



PS: This is concerning racism where "race" refers to definitions 2, 3 and 4 here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race). I'm not talking about fucking prejudice toward species. Racism refers to the first half of definition 1 and all of definition 2 here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism).

How about this option: I admit that all humans exhibit racism, but I'm optimistic about the future of our species, and hope we can work towards more tolerance?

What the hell is a spic?

How about this option: I admit that all humans exhibit racism, but I'm optimistic about the future of our species, and hope we can work towards more tolerance?

Haha, you're new to my rants, aren't you? Just pretend option A means "I disagree," and option B means, "I agree." The descriptions of the options are irrelevant. You should be going with B, by the way.

What the hell is a spic?

LOL! Slang for a hispanic person.

What the hell is a spic?
spic
n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for a Hispanic person.
There you go.

Umm, most of your points are about hypocrisy and not racism.

People are trying to say that Bill Bennett was being racist for his statement that aborting all black babies would reduce in a drop in crime rate. Well, no fucking shit it would! That's not racism, that's statistical fact. If all Mexican babies were aborted, illegal immigration would become less of a problem in the U.S. If all Asian babies were aborted, China would stop growing so fucking fact. If all white babies were aborted, Mother Nature wouldn't be so pissed off at us. If all white babies were aborted, there would be less incest. If all white babies were aborted, there would be fewer lawyers.
Whether or not you consider Bennett's statement to be sound is irrelevant. What he said crossed a line of ethics, making unfavorable implications about black people. Whether or not you believe what he said to be true, it was offensive and cruel to the black population of the United States and the world. You see, many people have feelings, many people have a sense of pride in who they are; I don't know of many people who take it upon themselves to become as numb, unfeeling, and cold-hearted as you would like them to be.

As for your list of racist traits... I don't understand your definition of "racism." Perhaps you could post it. I was under the impression that the word referred to racial intolerance, the belief that certain races are superior to others. Having "reflex" attitudes towards certain races based on conditioning by the media and urban legend or simply referring to a race of people in a neutral or favorable way does not make one a racist, in my opinion.

And for the record, I do give a shit.

Haha, you're new to my rants, aren't you? Just pretend option A means "I disagree," and option B means, "I agree." The descriptions of the options are irrelevant. You should be going with B, by the way.

Yes, I'm new to your rants. I would have picked B, except for the part about not caring.

Umm, most of your points are about hypocrisy and not racism.

In a sense, you're right. I am saying, "Bitching about how racist people are is stupid, because you, too, are racist," which is about racism, but is also about hypocrisy with respect to it. I'm also clarifying what makes people racist, as many seem to be confused.

I don't know of many people who take it upon themselves to become as numb, unfeeling, and cold-hearted as you would like them to be.
I try. :p

Well, I'm not racist, but...

:p

Whether or not you consider Bennett's statement to be sound is irrelevant. What he said crossed a line of ethics, making unfavorable implications about black people. Whether or not you believe what he said to be true, it was offensive and cruel to the black population of the United States and the world. You see, many people have feelings, many people have a sense of pride in who they are...

I don't care about ethics because I hate political correctness, and being offensive and cruel toward a race does not necessarily equal being racist.

I don't know of many people who take it upon themselves to become as numb, unfeeling, and cold-hearted as you would like them to be.

I know, me neither. Isn't it unfortunate?

As for your list of racist traits... I don't understand your definition of "racism." Perhaps you could post it. I was under the impression that the word referred to racial intolerance, the belief that certain races are superior to others. Having "reflex" attitudes towards certain races based on conditioning by the media and urban legend or simply referring to a race of people in a neutral or favorable way does not make one a racist, in my opinion.

Sorry, forgot my links when I copied and pasted. They're up now.

LOL! Slang for a hispanic person.

Yep, I still think the funniest is beaner. Thanks for enlightening me Carlos Mancia!!!

In a sense, you're right. I am saying, "Bitching about how racist people are is stupid, because you, too, are racist," which is about racism, but is also about hypocrisy with respect to it. I'm also clarifying what makes people racist, as many seem to be confused.

Most of your examples weren't ones that neccesarily made the subject racist though.

"# If you use the term "African American," but call yourself "white," you're racist, because you assume that a black guy is going to be offended by an incorrect color label while a white guy isn't."

That could be an example of political correctness or anything, I can't be 100% sure of the social context here (I'm not American) but it doesn't look to me like someone who says that must be a racist.

Yep, I still think the funniest is beaner. Thanks for enlightening me Carlos Mancia!!!

Heh, I didn't think "spic" was funny, I thought that the fact that Neo didn't know what a spic was and the manner in which they requested the definition of one was funny. "What the hell is a spic?"

I don't care about ethics because I hate political correctness, and being offensive and cruel toward a race does not necessarily equal being racist.
No, being offensive and cruel towards one race does not necessarily mean that you are a racist, but it heavily implies it and makes the race subjected to such comments feel inferior. You don't have to be "politcally correct" in order to avoid sounding like a racist imbecile.

Most of your examples weren't ones that neccesarily made the subject racist though.

"# If you use the term "African American," but call yourself "white," you're racist, because you assume that a black guy is going to be offended by an incorrect color label while a white guy isn't."

That could be an example of political correctness or anything, I can't be 100% sure of the social context here (I'm not American) but it doesn't look to me like someone who says that must be a racist.

They are racist by definition... they hold prejudices about a particular race. That's all that is required. If you assume someone is going to be offended by the racial slang that describes him or her because of the race that said person is, you're racist.

No, being offensive and cruel towards one race does not necessarily mean that you are a racist, but it heavily implies it and makes the race subjected to such comments feel inferior. You don't have to be "politcally correct" in order to avoid sounding like a racist imbecile.

I don't think he sounded like a racist imbecile in the least. The only people I consider imbeciles in this matter are those that consider his comment racist. He was simply pointing out the stupidity of another's argument.

They are racist by definition... they hold prejudices about a particular race. That's all that is required. If you assume someone is going to be offended by the racial slang that describes him or her because of the race that said person is, you're racist.

That's a hell of a logic leap there. Social circumstances might make it such a way that it is advisable to use your terminology with caution in order to avoid offense. That's Political Correctness, not racism.

That's a hell of a logic leap there. Social circumstances might make it such a way that it is advisable to use your terminology with caution in order to avoid offense. That's Political Correctness, not racism.

Did I say, "If you don't call black people 'black' when you're not in appropriate company, you're racist?" No. I said that you're racist if the reason you won't call black people black is that you think people with brown skin may get offended.

Did I say, "If you don't call black people 'black' when you're not in appropriate company, you're racist?" No. I said that you're racist if the reason you won't call black people black is that you think people with brown skin may get offended.

Again, not racist. It's a whole number of things - ignorant or misguided maybe, over-cautious etc etc but not saying something because you because you believe it will cause offence isn't racism.

Good points. But Bennet is a racist, simply because he believes that blacks are pre-determined to commit more crimes per-person than any other group as an accident of birth.

I really can't think of anything more racist.

Though looking at the behaviour of Jews before WWII in NYC, maybe hitler had a point too.

Again, not racist. It's a whole number of things - ignorant or misguided maybe, over-cautious etc etc but not saying something because you because you believe it will cause offence isn't racism.

It is if the reason you think it will "cause offence" is the race of the person or people you're speaking to. You're making a prejudiced judgement call based on race. While that may be politically correct, intelligent, safe, and couth, it's still racist.

Good points. But Bennet is a racist, simply because he believes that blacks are pre-determined to commit more crimes per-person than any other group as an accident of birth.

No, he's not basing that point on skin-color, he's basing it on statistics. Prejudice based on statistics is not racism.

I really can't think of anything more racist.

LOL! I most definitely can. Do you really want me to?

Though looking at the behaviour of Jews before WWII in NYC, maybe hitler had a point too.

Dude, Bennett wasn't making that statement as an actual argument, he was making it to point out the stupidity of another argument.

It is if the reason you think it will "cause offence" is the race of the person or people you're speaking to. You're making a prejudiced judgement call based on race. While that may be politically correct, intelligent, safe, and couth, it's still racist.

I don't see why you assume that someone who uses the cautious terminology's motivation is that they consider the reason the person they are communicating to may be offended not because of the social context of the word but because of their race? I can't see a situation where that occurs as social context would always take priority. In situations where the social context applies differently in different racial contexts, (ie the n- word being acceptable amongst blacks) than a white person avoiding that word isn't being racist but socially aware.

I don't see why you assume that someone who uses the cautious terminology's motivation is that they consider the reason the person they are communicating to may be offended not because of the social context of the word but because of their race?

I don't assume that, I am saying that if that is the case, you are racist. Why are you assuming I assume that?

No, he's not basing that point on skin-color, he's basing it on statistics. Prejudice based on statistics is not racism.

Are there crime statistics available for 2025? Perhaps Bennet has sources to which the rest of us are not privy? No-one knows what the crime rate will be twenty years from now, so it is not based upon statistics.


Dude, Bennett wasn't making that statement as an actual argument, he was making it to point out the stupidity of another argument.

And I understand that. However, his counter argument contained the very racist proposition that blacks will always commit more crime than anyone else. Therefore he is a racist.

(Actually, I am prepared to concede the point that he may not actually be racist in his heart, but only if everyone accepts he is a profoubdly stupid man - who is otherwise a racist).

I don't assume that, I am saying that if that is the case, you are racist. Why are you assuming I assume that?

It's just a crazy situation, it simply doesn't comply with logic. 'If I won't eat meat because I think blacks will be offended because they are black then I am a racist' is an equivilant.

Are there crime statistics available for 2025? Perhaps Bennet has sources to which the rest of us are not privy? No-one knows what the crime rate will be twenty years from now, so it is not based upon statistics.



Well, social & economic situations not helped by the US government dictate they'll comprise a larger % than they should :(. The comment proves he's a fool, it doesn't prove he's a racist, although he may be.

Yep, I still think the funniest is beaner. Thanks for enlightening me Carlos Mancia!!!

Yeah, Carlos Mencia isn't funny. And no, it's not because he's especially offensive... he just isn't funny. You notice how often he tries to spice up his stage presence by occasionaly shouting "BEANER"? That's pretty much the equivelent of belching on stage when you've run out of jokes.

2:If you use the term "African American," but call yourself "white," you're racist, because you assume that a black guy is going to be offended by an incorrect color label while a white guy isn't.

I'm biracial and I've called myself "black" before. Am I racist?



7:If you say "the 'N' word," instead of ******, but you still say "cracker" in reference to a white guy, you're racist.

No, ****** refers to all black people, cracker refers to a white country bumpkin. There's a real distinction here. Cracker is what the aristocratic southern belle calls the local town drunkard, ****** is what the town drunkard calls any black person rich or poor. Chris Rock was the first one to turn the word ****** into a derogatory term against only some black people, and so far it hasn't caught on.



12:If you've ever noticed that most criminals shown on TV are black or hispanic, you're racist.

Now that you mention it, most of them are.

The original poster doesn't understand that you can be racially aware but not racist.

Well, social & economic situations not helped by the US government dictate they'll comprise a larger % than they should :(. The comment proves he's a fool, it doesn't prove he's a racist, although he may be.

The point is, no-one would make that sort of a comment unless they were either: a) a moron, who doesn't understand "words"; or, b) a racist who believed - against all evidence - that black people are always going to commit more crime than anyone else.

After all, if you track the reduction in crime in the US over the past ten years, probably most of it has been in the black "community". That is certainly the case in NYC. So if anything, you could make the case that white people are the future threat.

Are there crime statistics available for 2025? Perhaps Bennet has sources to which the rest of us are not privy? No-one knows what the crime rate will be twenty years from now, so it is not based upon statistics.

No, but one can observe accepted trends that show with relative positivity that aborting all blacks would drop the crime rate.

And I understand that. However, his counter argument contained the very racist proposition that blacks will always commit more crime than anyone else. Therefore he is a racist.

No, it contained a statistical proposition, and yes, I agree, he is a racist, as is everyone. Just not for this reason.

Are there crime statistics available for 2025? Perhaps Bennet has sources to which the rest of us are not privy? No-one knows what the crime rate will be twenty years from now, so it is not based upon statistics.




And I understand that. However, his counter argument contained the very racist proposition that blacks will always commit more crime than anyone else. Therefore he is a racist.

(Actually, I am prepared to concede the point that he may not actually be racist in his heart, but only if everyone accepts he is a profoubdly stupid man - who is otherwise a racist).

No, but you could compare murder rates in states and examine the number of minorities. For example, there were 35 murders in Hawaii in 2000 and 1.3% of the population of Hawaii is black, but there were 651 Murders in Georgia and 28.7% of Georgia is black.

That makes the murder rate per 100,000 in Hawaii 2.9 and the murder rate per 100,000 in Georgia is 8.0.

The population of Georgia is 8,186,453 and 1,211,537 for Hawaii.
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Also, every state has a very disproportionate population of black prisoners compared to the resident percentage of the total population that is black. Some people would argue that this is because of poverty, however there are many more poor white persons than poor black people BUT poor black people commit far more crime than poor whites.

It's just a crazy situation, it simply doesn't comply with logic. 'If I won't eat meat because I think blacks will be offended because they are black then I am a racist' is an equivilant.

No, that's much more unlikely than thinking that a black would be offended by being called black, because the person in question may have seen this offend blacks in the past, whereas I don't think anyone has ever seen a black guy become offended by a meat-eater because they felt meat-eaters offend their race... please correct me if I'm wrong.

No, but you could compare murder rates in states and examine the number of minorities. For example, there were 35 murders in Hawaii in 2000 and 1.3% of the population of Hawaii is black, but there were 651 Murders in Georgia and 28.7% of Georgia is black.

That makes the murder rate per 100,000 in Hawaii 2.9 and the murder rate per 100,000 in Georgia is 8.0.

The population of Georgia is 8,186,453 and 1,211,537 for Hawaii.
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Also, every state has a very disproportionate population of black prisoners compared to the resident percentage of the total population that is black. Some people would argue that this is because of poverty, however there are many more poor white persons than poor black people BUT poor black people commit far more crime than poor whites.


There's a higher % of blacks who are poor though, you can't just switch from % to total to suit your racist argument

The black community is seeing huge drops in its crime rate. Look at NYC. In less than ten years, the homocide rate has fallen by 80%.

As I said, it is all speculation. Anyone who accepts that blacks will always commit more crime as a statistical given is either stupid or racist.

No, that's much more unlikely than thinking that a black would be offended by being called black, because the person in question may have seen this offend blacks in the past, whereas I don't think anyone has ever seen a black guy become offended by a meat-eater because they felt meat-eaters offend their race... please correct me if I'm wrong.

"blacks being offended by the word.." - I follow. "...because they are black" I do not. It's not a logical step. It's not a reason in itself.

No, but you could compare murder rates in states and examine the number of minorities. For example, there were 35 murders in Hawaii in 2000 and 1.3% of the population of Hawaii is black, but there were 651 Murders in Georgia and 28.7% of Georgia is black.

That makes the murder rate per 100,000 in Hawaii 2.9 and the murder rate per 100,000 in Georgia is 8.0.

The population of Georgia is 8,186,453 and 1,211,537 for Hawaii.
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Also, every state has a very disproportionate population of black prisoners compared to the resident percentage of the total population that is black. Some people would argue that this is because of poverty, however there are many more poor white persons than poor black people BUT poor black people commit far more crime than poor whites.

It says nothing about trends, and you cannot predict the future from that.

Like I said, according to crime patterns before WWII, we should have been out aborting catholics. Do you think that is a fair reflection of what really happened?

I'm biracial and I've called myself "black" before. Am I racist?

Not because of that... unless you call fully-black people "African American" because they are wholly black.

No, ****** refers to all black people, cracker refers to a white country bumpkin. There's a real distinction here. Cracker is what the aristocratic southern belle calls the local town drunkard, ****** is what the town drunkard calls any black person rich or poor. Chris Rock was the first one to turn the word ****** into a derogatory term against only some black people, and so far it hasn't caught on.

Cracker can refer to all white people as well.

crack·er, n., definition 3-b: Used as a disparaging term for a white person.

Plus, people that say "cracker" don't always refer solely to country bumpkins. No distinction I can see.

Well let's put it this way. In 1783, every American in the country was guilty of a capital crime. There was a 100% guilty rate. Therefore, statistically, every american ever born since then is a criminal.

The original poster doesn't understand that you can be racially aware but not racist.

No, you don't understand that your definition of racially aware is the same as the definition of racist.

Also, every state has a very disproportionate population of black prisoners compared to the resident percentage of the total population that is black. Some people would argue that this is because of poverty, however there are many more poor white persons than poor black people BUT poor black people commit far more crime than poor whites.

Ghettos have high crime. Mostly black people live in ghettos. You figure it out.

"blacks being offended by the word.." - I follow. "...because they are black" I do not. It's not a logical step. It's not a reason in itself.

I fail to see the leap in logic you keep claiming to be present. As you were confused, I clarified for you that if you watch your word choice around someone because of the color of their skin, you are being racist - you're being racially aware, yes, but you're also being racist, even if it's a smart move to watch your mouth, because you just made an assumption based on race. Please explain what is wrong with that statement.

In 2004 blacks commited 48 percent of murders in the US. And while whites committed 49 percent, you also have to look at percentages of the populations. Blacks make up roughly 13 percent of the United States, compared to 81.7 percent for white people.

Since the census groups latinos and europeans (latinos are not white, they are meso-american) under one category, it is difficult which what percentage of murders that europeans truly commit.

Let us assume that latinos commit just as many murders as white people. The Latino-White population is roughly 246,766,444 people (and the total population of the U.S. is 281,421,906); Latino-Whites commit 49% murders. Since 69.4 percent of the population is european, hispanics make up roughly 12.6 percent. That means there are 195,306,802 europeans in the United States at any given moment and it also means that off the 49 percent of murders that latino-whites commit, europeans commit roughly 79%, or 38.71% of the grand total of murders in the United States.

This means that 13% of the nation commits 48% of all murders and 69% of the nation commits 38.71 percent of all murders.

Now, for the purpose of this dialogue, let us assume that poverty does have something to do with a life of crime. Let's assume that people under the poverty line commit roughly 80% of the crime in their respected ethnic groups.

According to the census, 24.4% of the black population lives below the poverty line (about 3.172% of the total population of the united states or 8,456,598 people.)

Now, the population of non-Hispanic whites below the poverty line is 8.2%, roughly 5.658% of the united states population, or roughly 11,964,442 people.
So 5.658% of the population commits 31% of murders and 3.172% of the population commits 38.4% of murders.

I found this info on the FBI's uniform crime statistics page, wikipedia and the CIA world factbook for the United States.

This is something of a special edition of Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit?, as I am going to request that my readers amend the list that will follow shortly. The list refers to one basic concept, and stems from a post I made not so long ago. The concept: quit bitching about racism.

People are trying to say that the government is racist, and that is why New Orleans was handled so poorly. What a fucking crock of shit. The slow reaction had nothing to do with most of the victims of Katrina being black; it had to do with their being poor. Get it the fuck right. There's a good goddamn chance prejudice played a role in the fucked up situation there, but it sure as hell wasn't racially based.

People are trying to say that Bill Bennett was being racist for his statement that aborting all black babies would reduce in a drop in crime rate. Well, no fucking shit it would! That's not racism, that's statistical fact. If all Mexican babies were aborted, illegal immigration would become less of a problem in the U.S. If all Asian babies were aborted, China would stop growing so fucking fact. If all white babies were aborted, Mother Nature wouldn't be so pissed off at us. If all white babies were aborted, there would be less incest. If all white babies were aborted, there would be fewer lawyers.

Now, I'm sure that both Bill Bennett and everyone involved with Katrina fucking us up so badly is racist as well, but those things don't explain why. Everybody is racist, whether he or she wants to admit it or not. All these annoying accusations of racism being passed around lately are starting to piss me off. Who the fuck cares if someone is racist? I'm racist. You're racist. We're all racist. We can't help it. As long as you're not going around clubbing people with a crowbar because they're not the same color as you, I have no problem with you being as racist a prick as you want to be.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit?

Here are some possible reason that they actually are racist, as opposed to bullshit fabricated ones made up by racist people that think they're morally pure. Feel free to add to the list if you like.


If you support (racially based) affirmative action, you're racist, as you believe that certain races are not able to compete with others in a level setting.
If you use the term "African American," but call yourself "white," you're racist, because you assume that a black guy is going to be offended by an incorrect color label while a white guy isn't.
If you've ever been worried while driving through suburbs largely inhabited by a race other than yours because the majority didn't look like you, you're racist.
If you call yourself a kike, ******, cracker, or spic, but are offended when others do it, you are racist.
If you just thought to yourself, "I wonder if he threw in cracker just to cover his ass," you're racist.
If you have ever written "kike, ******, cracker, or spic," and added your own race strictly to cover your ass, you're racist.
If you say "the 'N' word," instead of ******, but you still say "cracker" in reference to a white guy, you're racist.
If you say derogatory words in private, but not in public, you're racist.
If you've ever said, "I'm not racist, I've got tons of black friends," you're racist.
If you've ever said, "I love [insert racial group]," you're racist.
If you accidently find yourself in the ghetto, and immediately assume that it is inhabited by a specific minority group, as opposed to minorities, you're racist.
If you've ever noticed that most criminals shown on TV are black or hispanic, you're racist.
If you just thought to yourself, "Why did he say hispanic instead of Mexican - is he covering his ass?" you don't know what hispanic means... and you're racist.
If you think that being racist requires being white, you're racist.



PS: This is concerning racism where "race" refers to definitions 2, 3 and 4 here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=race). I'm not talking about fucking prejudice toward species. Racism refers to the first half of definition 1 and all of definition 2 here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism).

If you wrote the above post, you are very confused about race and racism.

You seem to deny it exists except .... everywhere. Nicely done.

If you think the above post exposed real racism, you are probably racist.

I do give a shit about real racism. And "everyone is racist" is no excuse. There are degrees of racist thoughts and actions. One should work towards eliminating both.

And if you don't give a shit about that[/B[B]], you are probably a privileged white boy that is going to whine about affirmative action the rest of his life and/or aren't worth the time to discuss this with.

(P.S. I'd love to see you actually discuss an actual federal affirmative action program. As I've noted before, you don't know shit about it.)

If loving a good racial slur makes me a racist, so be it.
Im not a harmful one, anyway.

Theres a good racial slur database site wich has scads of em.

Some good ones too!

My only dissapointment comes from it not having very many good ones for whites.
Theres some, but not enough.

I dont dislike any ethnic group any more than any other.
In that sense, I suppose you could cal me an "Equal Opportunity Hater".

White
Black
Brown
Purple..
Whatever...I probably dont like you!

The people I hate the most, happen to be white.
The best next door neighbor Ive ever had , was black.
One of my best friends, is mexican.

However, "asshole", is color-blind!

"If you support (racially based) affirmative action, you're racist, as you believe that certain races are not able to compete with others in a level setting."

This would only make you racist if you were also moronic enough to believe that a level setting exists between different races.

Your definition of racism might be internally consistent, but it is also useless. As people have mentioned, there is racism and racial awareness, and there are degress of racism. You seem to be claiming that all racism is identical and should be ignored, which is ridiculous.

Basically the OP thinks that if you aren't totally colour-blind (ie never even so much as think of race, or note someone's race) you must be racist, so we are all racist. The OP also has no regard for logic, so argument seems a little pointless.

Basically the OP thinks that if you aren't totally colour-blind (ie never even so much as think of race, or note someone's race) you must be racist, so we are all racist. The OP also has no regard for logic, so argument seems a little pointless.

And also that if I fire someone purely for being black or constantly yell racial insults at everyone but my own race it doesn't matter, because "we are all racist".

I make a point to hate everyone who pisses me off, and just don't talk to anyone else period. You can't trust anyone... Ya know, unless they're female, but that just makes me sexist. ;)