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A new case with the DA charging a death penalty offense .

Friday September 30, 2005 5:01 AM


LANGHORNE, Pa. (AP) - A man taken to a suburban hospital for a sobriety test Thursday night grabbed a police officer's gun, opened fire and killed one officer, authorities said. Another officer and medical technician were wounded.

Robert A. Flor, 38, was captured in the St. Mary Medical Center garage an hour after the shooting, authorities said. He was hiding in the back seat of a car and police had to smash a window to capture him.

Flor, of Bedminster, faced a charge of murder and two counts of attempted murder.

The suspect fired five shots after grabbing the gun. Both the wounded officer, who was shot in the chest, and the hospital employee were expected to survive, authorities said.

The slain police officer was described as a 46-year-old man who had been with the Newton Borough department less than a year.

Langhorne is about 25 miles northeast of Philadelphia.


The details that were released tonight .
before being stopped he had gone on a rampage beating and threatning his sister . At the hospital after he shot the police officer that died once in the back then he stood over him and said "die you pig bastard " and shot him in the back of the head and killed him , the wounded officer was shot in the chest . The hospital employee ..no info ..witnesses up the gazoo ..no doubt of what happened ..he was being tested for DUI..thankfully it seems the cop had a revolver ...otherwise ...imagine a 15 shot Glock like Philly cops use ..At any rate he excecuted a cop..with video and unimpeachable evidence from doctors and nurses ..security etc.
He's being tried and if convicted faces the death penalty...BTW a family member one of his sisters while being interviewed said " he deserves the death penalty for what he did I hope he relises this " I just watched the interview on my local news .

Do you support the death penalty for this guy ?

Nope. I do think he should be sent to prison with no hope of parole, but I do not support the death penalty under any circumstances for anyone.

i dont support the death penalty but he better find a doctor to certify him insane if he wants to avoid it.

that sick bastard should be executed....if someone killed my family i'd want that sick f*** killed....no sitting in comfort without worries for the rest of his life....he needs to die

Nope. I do think he should be sent to prison with no hope of parole, but I do not support the death penalty under any circumstances for anyone.

what if he kills someone in prison ? Shouldnt the prisoners be safe ?

I'm not particularily one for criminal rights. While I don't support the death penalty, that's because I don't think it's harsh enough. I'd brand the word "Loony" on his forehead, shoot off his arms and legs, and shove him in solitary confinement forever facing a mirror so he can see the word on his forehead. Keep him there until he has a few nervous breakdowns, then let him out on the street. Don't give him anything in particular, just simply let him out for the purpose of making an example so other people know what they'll get if they try pulling that crap.
While I believe in some occasional lenience on minor incidents like speeding, for major offenses I believe in absolutely any measure necessary to ensure a lesson that one's bones will never forget =P I just don't agree with the death penalty... it seems too much like a coward's way out.

I don't support the death penalty for anyone, not even this guy.

I don't support the death penalty but I'm sure that killing a cop on duty is an automatic capital crime anyway. He's dead.

I don't support the death penalty for anyone, not even this guy.

^ my sentiments exactly

I'm not particularily one for criminal rights. While I don't support the death penalty, that's because I don't think it's harsh enough. I'd brand the word "Loony" on his forehead, shoot off his arms and legs, and shove him in solitary confinement forever facing a mirror so he can see the word on his forehead. Keep him there until he has a few nervous breakdowns, then let him out on the street. Don't give him anything in particular, just simply let him out for the purpose of making an example so other people know what they'll get if they try pulling that crap.
While I believe in some occasional lenience on minor incidents like speeding, for major offenses I believe in absolutely any measure necessary to ensure a lesson that one's bones will never forget =P I just don't agree with the death penalty... it seems too much like a coward's way out.

hahaha....that works too

don't get me wrong, i do value a human life....but when you go beating on your girlfriend, kill a cop, shoot another, shoot a hospital employee...it is my strong opinion that you are no longer worth keeping around and are an ANIMAL...you lose the opportunity to be a human being and i believe have no right left to live....

true...these are just my opinions (most likely to be as flawed as the next)...but are my opinions nevertheless...

Man. This guy's probably insane. He should be kept in solitary confinement with a strait-jacket and padded walls. No death penalty, though if he wasn't insane i'd say kill him right this instant.

Man. This guy's probably insane. He should be kept in solitary confinement with a strait-jacket and padded walls. No death penalty, though if he wasn't insane i'd say kill him right this instant.

good luck trying to prove insanity with a guy who had enough sense to shoot a cop in the head when he was already down and after he had already shot and wounded the others . if he's insane how did he think to " kill" or "excecute " the policeman already down and on the ground ? Can an insane person pre- meditate a murder ? Warm up the chair this boys getting cooked .

....there are many arguments to be made....either way i still think he no longer needs to live....1. If he's criminally insane then he should be put out of his misery and the populace would not need to be afraid of another homicidal loony....2. If he's not...then he's a sick bastard that needs to die....

that's the way i see it

Nope. I do think he should be sent to prison with no hope of parole, but I do not support the death penalty under any circumstances for anyone.
I am with you on this one, for the most part. Parole after 20 to 25 years, if he is able to make the parole board interview.

Charles Manson certainly committed far more heinous crimes and there he sits and rots for the world to see. He is a classic example of paying the price. He will soon turn 71, and has been in jail for 36 years. Now that is punishment?

Charles Manson was originally sentenced to death, Canuck.

As it is, if I had been standing nearby, I would have shot the criminal personally the moment I saw the him grab the gun.

Charles Manson was originally sentenced to death, Canuck.
I realize that, his sentence was commuted. He is a living example that crime doesn't pay.

As it is, if I had been standing nearby, I would have shot the criminal personally the moment I saw the him grab the gun.
This does not surprise me in the least, but the fact remains that he didn't have the gun. He ordered his followers to do the killings.

I still don't know.

I would say that people want the "eye for an eye" revenge factor out of this, but I really doubt that that accomplishes anything. He is sentenced and proves himself impossible to contain, kill him. Until then, use him for slave labor or something. Employ him to some shit job for the state, and give his wages to the family of the cop he killed.

A new case with the DA charging a death penalty offense .



The details that were released tonight .
before being stopped he had gone on a rampage beating and threatning his sister . At the hospital after he shot the police officer that died once in the back then he stood over him and said "die you pig bastard " and shot him in the back of the head and killed him , the wounded officer was shot in the chest . The hospital employee ..no info ..witnesses up the gazoo ..no doubt of what happened ..he was being tested for DUI..thankfully it seems the cop had a revolver ...otherwise ...imagine a 15 shot Glock like Philly cops use ..At any rate he excecuted a cop..with video and unimpeachable evidence from doctors and nurses ..security etc.
He's being tried and if convicted faces the death penalty...BTW a family member one of his sisters while being interviewed said " he deserves the death penalty for what he did I hope he relises this " I just watched the interview on my local news .

Do you support the death penalty for this guy ?



NO! I do not support the death penalty under any circumstances. No human being is immune to losing control at any given moment, not a one. I would send them to high security island for the rest of their lives, with no guards, but monitored 24/7 and with many sophisticated booby traps and tech gadgets to make any escape attempt impossible. GOD will be their final judge.

GOD will be their final judge.

I think God is pretty free at the moment, why not get a judgement now?

Sorry to burst everyones moralistic bubble, but this man attempted to kill three people, succeeded in killing one and goodness knows how many others if the weapon he was using had been a different type.

There is no doubt that he did this and there is little doubt, in the way in which he did it, that he knew what he was doing.

Death penalty.

I realize that, his sentence was commuted. He is a livinf example that crime doesn't pay.


This does not surprise me in the least, but the fact remains that he didn't have the gun. He ordered his followers to do the killings.

I'm sure that Charles Manson has done far, far better in life than Sharon Tate.

And in the comment about using my gun, I am referring to the cop killer, not Charles Manson.

As I said earlier, it doesn't matter to me how bad he is. I don't support the death penalty for any person, ever. Killing a prisoner is wrong, because you are not killing in self-defence or in defence of others. You are killing as an end in itself. And that's wrong. I think murderers should be locked up in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives. Then, they're no longer a threat to anyone, except themselves.

The death penalty shames and cheapens every society that imposes it.

I have no problem with the death penalty for this man unless he is proven insane. Call it revenge, call it passing judgement that he is un-redeemably evil with no hope of rehabilitation, or call it severe punishment - these are all elements of the intention behind sentencing one to death.

It is our law that we permit the man a trial, and that what I'm about to suggest can't be done. From a pragmatic point of view, why bother determining guilt? The crime was recorded on film and there are numerous witnesses. There is no question of guilt. Just hold a sentencing hearing, but let a jury decide whether the death sentence is appropriate.

I have no problem with the death penalty for this man unless he is proven insane. Call it revenge, call it passing judgement that he is un-redeemably evil with no hope of rehabilitation, or call it severe punishment - these are all elements of the intention behind sentencing one to death.

It is our law that we permit the man a trial, and that what I'm about to suggest can't be done. From a pragmatic point of view, why bother determining guilt? The crime was recorded on film and there are numerous witnesses. There is no question of guilt. Just hold a sentencing hearing, but let a jury decide whether the death sentence is appropriate.

Even suggesting that we do away with trial by jury, even for one open and shut case, is disgusting. Even if the jury's decision is obvious, it would set an incredibly dangerous precedent. I find that idea contemptible.

I agree with all others that are against death penalty.

Death Penalty is to nice, and also a 'quick quick' solution from the socities behalf. Sure, someone kills a friend or one in my family, I want him dead. I want my feelings soothed. But seriously, life without parole is more crueler than a couple of years in death row and 24 hours of agony before the end (and of course a nice dinner to round it up which probably taste like ashes).
Any person who ends up in jail will probably not want to revisit it for a while.. And not to forget that every day he has to meet people who are as bad or worser than himself.

I do not agree with the death penalty. Killing him now would just be for the sake of revenge, revenge; though initially pleasing does not help in any way shape or form. If he is arrested he is nolonger a threat, hence it is no longer self-defense to have him killed.

I'm all for armed police though, they are there to protect rather than seek revenge.

Even suggesting that we do away with trial by jury, even for one open and shut case, is disgusting. Even if the jury's decision is obvious, it would set an incredibly dangerous precedent. I find that idea contemptible.
Exactly. Same with getting rid of the appeals process, even for such an open and shut case. All cases are not like this. The rules can not be waived for anyone unless they ask for them to be waived, or else we start a dangerous precedent.

During the D.A.’s press conference Thursday night, the fallen officer’s police chief fought back tears at the loss of one of his own.

“He was one of the finest men I’ve ever met,” he said.

Officer Gregg had been with the department for less than a year.

Gibbons says the death penalty will be sought against Flor who after firing the first shot and striking officer Gregg is qouted as saying, “Die you pig.” Flor than pointed the gun at Gregg and shot him execution style, in the head.

“This is, needless to say, a capital case. Three people were shot, one officer was killed, therefore, it is clearly a death penalty case,” she stated.

Flor was treated for his hand injury and then taken to the Bucks County correctional facility.



These people need to see justice done .

(CBS 3) NEWTOWN BOROUGH, PA Newtown Borough Police Department is mourning the loss of one of their officers, killed in the line of duty Thursday night inside St. Mary Medical Center.

Officer Brian Greg had been with the department less than a year when his life was suddenly taken by Robert Flor, a DUI suspect taken to the hosptial to have his blood and urine tested.

Greg, 46, of Middletown, was shot twice, execution style and killed. His partner, Officer James Warunek, 31, was also injured as was 35-year-old medical techinician Joseph Epp.

Officers across the county are grief stricken by the loss of a colleague and friend.

“There officers made contact with eachother throughout the borough, they made it a point to make friends, “ said Lower Makefield Police Chief Ken Coluzzi. “Everybody is absoulutely devastated, they feel like they lost their brother."

Friend are organizing a fundriaser to help provide support for the family Gregg left behind, his wife and four-year-old son they recently adopted.


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What's wrong with revenge? When someone does something really messed up, whatever they get... they deserved.