NationStates Jolt Archive


Talk about a cover up on behalf of the super powers

Psychotic Military
30-09-2005, 22:25
Now seriously people what the link is suggesting has already been tested and used on a global scale. I come to ask myself a question. Does the american public realy know what is going on beyond its borders, or does it believe that it being isolated as a continent assures its safety.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16227_hurricanes.html
Drunk commies deleted
30-09-2005, 22:40
Isn't Pravda the russian word for Weekly World News?
End of Darkness
30-09-2005, 22:40
Pravda? WTF?

Isn't that the old paper of the USSR?
Neo-Anarchists
30-09-2005, 22:41
I'm really not sure how much I trust Pravda...
Syniks
30-09-2005, 22:47
Now seriously people what the link is suggesting has already been tested and used on a global scale. I come to ask myself a question. Does the american public realy know what is going on beyond its borders, or does it believe that it being isolated as a continent assures its safety.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16227_hurricanes.html
With the internet available and EuroKids handy to trash us ;) and let us know what's happening despite the media, there really is no excuse for global ignorance anymore...

Oh, and as for the pravda article.... BWAHAHAHAHAHA! SNERK... They even brought up HAARP! LOL! The only place anything like "Mr Steven's" claims would get "quickly spread" in on tinfoil hat sites... :p
Andaluciae
30-09-2005, 22:50
Well, besides the minimal involvement of the ionosphere in the creation of hurricanes (which are formed in the troposphere, and are initially wind storms that blow off of the African savannah into the Atlantic) a lot of the claims in the article are really, really, really, really bizarre and scientifically inaccurate. You cannot create an aurora borealis from Earth, period. You can't just ship the charged particles up to the ionosphere without them getting involved with the other various layers of the atmosphere.
Naturality
30-09-2005, 22:53
With the internet available and EuroKids handy to trash us ;) and let us know what's happening despite the media, there really is no excuse for global ignorance anymore...

Oh, and as for the pravda article.... BWAHAHAHAHAHA! SNERK... They even brought up HAARP! LOL! The only place anything like "Mr Steven's" claims would get "quickly spread" in on tinfoil hat sites... :p


Do you think HAARP doesn't exist? Or any type of weather modifiers?
Eutrusca
30-09-2005, 22:55
Now seriously people what the link is suggesting has already been tested and used on a global scale. I come to ask myself a question. Does the american public realy know what is going on beyond its borders, or does it believe that it being isolated as a continent assures its safety.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16227_hurricanes.html
Dude ... it was just a bad hurricane in the start of a 70-year cycle. Did the Russians also destroy Galveston in 1917 ( I think that was the year )?
Vetalia
30-09-2005, 22:57
Do you think HAARP doesn't exist? Or any type of weather modifiers?

It does, and it's a research program. All of these conspiracy theories about this research experiment lack a convincing reason as to how and why the government would want to control the weather; as far as I know, I haven't seen any catastrophic weather disasters in Iran or North Korea.

The HAARP Website (With a webcam!?) (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/)
Eutrusca
30-09-2005, 22:57
Do you think HAARP doesn't exist? Or any type of weather modifiers?
My dear fellow Tar Heel ... please read up on complex systems, points of instability, and bifurcation points.
BerkylvaniaYetAgain
30-09-2005, 23:01
Dude ... it was just a bad hurricane in the start of a 70-year cycle. Did the Russians also destroy Galveston in 1917 ( I think that was the year )?

Maybe! If the Commies can control the weather, can a time machine be too far behind!?!
Eutrusca
30-09-2005, 23:03
Maybe! If the Commies can control the weather, can a time machine be too far behind!?!
:eek:
Neo-Anarchists
30-09-2005, 23:05
Do you think HAARP doesn't exist? Or any type of weather modifiers?
HAARP exists, but I would doubt that it is a weather modifier, or at least if it is, it's not a very good one. Many many times more energy is dumped into the atmosphere by solar flares and such than HAARP could ever hope to muster at the moment. Unless they have loads of secret research on how to use a tiny amount of energy to enact such a great change and they've shut up the whole scientific community about it, I rather doubt it.

Couple it with the fact that most changes in the ionosphere are reverted rather quickly, and long-term changes appear mostly impossible, and I doubt the theory that HAARP has been effective at much other than research.
Drunk commies deleted
30-09-2005, 23:05
Maybe! If the Commies can control the weather, can a time machine be too far behind!?!
I can control the weather? :confused:
Naturality
30-09-2005, 23:14
My dear fellow Tar Heel ... please read up on complex systems, points of instability, and bifurcation points.


Might do that one day. Not really neccessary atm. Was simply asking Syniks if he believed HAARP or any weather modifications existed.
BerkylvaniaYetAgain
30-09-2005, 23:15
I can control the weather? :confused:

YOU ADMIT IT! The question mark is just a red herring. You can control the weather and have a time machine and went back in time to make a hurricane to destroy Galveston in 1917 or thereabouts all with the nefarious intent of not having the USSR collapse in the Eighties. Glen Campbell tried to warn us with his rendition of "Galveston". It's all in the lyric:

Galveston, oh Galveston, I still hear your sea waves crashing/
While I watch the cannons flashing/
I clean my gun and dream of Galveston.

The confusing use of tenses clearly refers to time travel while the references to cannons and "cleaning my gun" let us know that your hideous plot should be fought with slingshots and blowguns imported from Australia!

How trashing Galveston saved the USSR, I don't know, but when has common sense ever gotten in the way of a tin-hat conspiracy theory! J'accuse!
Drunk commies deleted
30-09-2005, 23:20
YOU ADMIT IT! The question mark is just a red herring. You can control the weather and have a time machine and went back in time to make a hurricane to destroy Galveston in 1917 or thereabouts all with the nefarious intent of not having the USSR collapse in the Eighties. Glen Campbell tried to warn us with his rendition of "Galveston". It's all in the lyric:

Galveston, oh Galveston, I still hear your sea waves crashing/
While I watch the cannons flashing/
I clean my gun and dream of Galveston.

The confusing use of tenses clearly refers to time travel while the references to cannons and "cleaning my gun" let us know that your hideous plot should be fought with slingshots and blowguns imported from Australia!

How trashing Galveston saved the USSR, I don't know, but when has common sense ever gotten in the way of a tin-hat conspiracy theory! J'accuse!
*Throws down a smoke bomb and runs*
Culex
30-09-2005, 23:21
THis is very...err...strange.
How can they create a wea[pon of mass meteorological destruction?
I wish I had been born in the 18th century.... :rolleyes:
Syniks
01-10-2005, 15:28
Might do that one day. Not really neccessary atm. Was simply asking Syniks if he believed HAARP or any weather modifications existed.
I used to live in AK and I've seen the HAAP array, so, yes, I believe it exists.

The only "weather modifications" that I've ever encountered is "cloud seeding", and that only works occasionally.

So, no. There are no functional government weather control programs. :rolleyes:
Adlersburg-Niddaigle
01-10-2005, 16:06
I would believe almost anything about the military-industrial complex whose leadership has shown a sad lack of moral scruples. Whether the Pravda article is 'true', I cannot say. Yet I would suspect that 'the sorcerer's apprentice' would not be able to use weather to attack another nation without seriously consequences to his own country.

It seems much more plausible that the hurricanes and typhoons of this year are caused by increasing global warming; the temperature of the Gulf of Mexico was recorded at .5% to 2.00% higher than normal this year. If one must attribute blame for 'an act of God', then perhaps it might be directed at auto and factory emissions. One might point the finger at the USA (whose polluting emissions exceed those of any other country), China, India, Brazil, etc. Perhaps the nations of the planet should now be interested in signing a new and much more meaningful Kyoto accords.
Beer and Guns
01-10-2005, 18:01
Now seriously people what the link is suggesting has already been tested and used on a global scale. I come to ask myself a question. Does the american public realy know what is going on beyond its borders, or does it believe that it being isolated as a continent assures its safety.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16227_hurricanes.html

well I should be alright I have a tin foil hat to protect me and I am inland .

American meteorologists are not the only ones who blame the neighbors for using the "hurricane gun." Unconfirmed and patchy reports on questionable experiments with weather conducted by the U.S. and Soviet Union stirred up a number of political scandals in many countries of the world. Following a large-scale flooding in Europe in 2002, some European politicians put the blame on the "U.S. military" for disrupting EU economy. In 2002, Committee for Defense of the Russian Duma raised the issue about a detrimental impact on climate caused by experiments involving disturbance of the earth's ionosphere and magnetosphere. The deputies focused their attention on HAARP system that is still under construction in Alaska.


que twilight zone music.


I want some of the stuff that dude is smoking .
E Blackadder
01-10-2005, 18:03
Now seriously people what the link is suggesting has already been tested and used on a global scale. I come to ask myself a question. Does the american public realy know what is going on beyond its borders, or does it believe that it being isolated as a continent assures its safety.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16227_hurricanes.html


cool...i think ill write a novel on that technology :D
Khodros
01-10-2005, 19:02
YOU ADMIT IT! The question mark is just a red herring. You can control the weather and have a time machine and went back in time to make a hurricane to destroy Galveston in 1917 or thereabouts all with the nefarious intent of not having the USSR collapse in the Eighties. Glen Campbell tried to warn us with his rendition of "Galveston". It's all in the lyric:

Galveston, oh Galveston, I still hear your sea waves crashing/
While I watch the cannons flashing/
I clean my gun and dream of Galveston.

The confusing use of tenses clearly refers to time travel while the references to cannons and "cleaning my gun" let us know that your hideous plot should be fought with slingshots and blowguns imported from Australia!

How trashing Galveston saved the USSR, I don't know, but when has common sense ever gotten in the way of a tin-hat conspiracy theory! J'accuse!


Actually it was skynet. They sent a terminator back in time to try to kill the great grandfather of John Conner who was living in Galveston, but DC went back in time stop their nefarious plan. So he's a hero.
Eutrusca
01-10-2005, 19:03
Might do that one day. Not really neccessary atm. Was simply asking Syniks if he believed HAARP or any weather modifications existed.
It's all good. ;)
Eutrusca
01-10-2005, 19:05
THis is very...err...strange.
How can they create a wea[pon of mass meteorological destruction?
I wish I had been born in the 18th century.... :rolleyes:
You were! You just don't realize it yet. Part of the "Russian time-machine conspiracy!" Run away!!! :eek:
Eutrusca
01-10-2005, 19:07
que twilight zone music.

I want some of the stuff that dude is smoking .
Don't forget yer friends! :D
Ifreann
01-10-2005, 19:07
Yup,i knew some idiot would say this.only I thought they'd blame al-queada for it,not the russkies.
Of course the Russians can control the weather,thats why its still freezing in siberia.stupid gobshites
Eutrusca
01-10-2005, 19:08
Yup,i knew some idiot would say this.only I thought they'd blame al-queada for it,not the russkies.
Of course the Russians can control the weather,thats why its still freezing in siberia.stupid gobshites
ROFLMAO!!!!
Ravenshrike
01-10-2005, 19:12
I can control the weather? :confused:
They had one, but we bought it from the when the SU collapsed and then a lowly truck driver stole it and was never seen from again.