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What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

I would have to call myself Deist. I was raised Catholic and went to private Catholic school with the nuns. So, obviously, I am SO not Catholic. :rolleyes:

What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

They are still around?

They are still around?

Yup. Don't worry, though, I'm not one of the "impose my views on everyone" type.

Proud Heathen, aka Unitarian Universalist. Calvin burned us Unitarians at the stake in Geneva. But we're not in the habit of holding grudges, so don't worry. :D

Yup. Don't worry, though, I'm not one of the "impose my views on everyone" type.

I have nothing against calvanism. I find it incredibly interesting because it believes in predestination of people to hell. I honestly thought that branch of christianity died out.

I suppose you could say I'm Protestant... I'm rather modern with my beliefs, but still religious. A good example of my train of thought is that I believe the Big Bang occured, and that it was triggered by God.

Cultural Catholoc I suppose. I don't go to church, or even know all that much about it to be honest. I'm also a bit of an agnostic.

I am also vaguely aware that if I did know more about it, I probably wouldn't approve.

Proud Heathen, aka Unitarian Universalist. Calvin burned us Unitarians at the stake in Geneva. But we're not in the habit of holding grudges, so don't worry. :D

Bah... speak for yourself. :gundge: Of course if we had it in for everyone who burned Unitarians, our only friends would be Quakers.

Hi...

I am a (Atlantic) Baptist, but I just thought I would pose the question of why the category of Orthodox Christian was not included. I know there was an "Other Christian" area, but it seems pretty odd to relegate such a huge group to the status of "other". My social analyst side is questioning the underlying biases in such a decision.

Sorry if I seem like I am splitting hairs, it is late and I am just typing what pops into my head.

I still think I have a meritous point, though.

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A point added later...

I mean obviously there are a lot of other religions left off the list, and I do not dispute their claim to being included; I simply meant that since Protestant and Catholic Christians were divided, it seems logical to me that we should not leave the Orthodox Christians out in the cold.

Bah... speak for yourself. :gundge: Of course if we had it in for everyone who burned Unitarians, our only friends would be Quakers.

True, actually, I don't think Buddhists or Wiccans ever burned Unitarians, but you're right, it's a very small group that haven't taken part in barbecuing us.

Nondemonational Arian Christian. W00t!

Nondemonational Arian Christian. W00t!

What's an Arian Christian?

What's an Arian Christian?

They are actually forruners to the Unitarians. Arius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius) argued in the council of Nicea (around 325 AD) against the Trinity that became orthodox. Arians in general believed that Christ was more than a man, less than the Father. They believe that Jesus was exalted and became divine as opposed to eteranlly existing with God. (Correct me if I am wrong) Of course, because of this, he was excomunicated and later poisoned.

Sufi leaning Sunni Muslim.

Sufi leaning Sunni Muslim.

Sufi?

What that?

Sufi?

What that?

It's sort of like the Kabbalists of the Jewish world. Sufis are mystics.

Linky: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~godlas/Sufism.html

We're the ones the wahhabists *really* want wiped out. Kinda the hippies of the Muslim world.

Atheism is not a religion.

No religion :cool:

I don't see Agnostiscm on that list. Athiest just seems to imply that someone is like "GOD DOESN'T EXIST! I AM SURE OF IT!"

An Agnostic Option would have been good for Fence-Sitters.

They are actually forruners to the Unitarians. Arius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius) argued in the council of Nicea (around 325 AD) against the Trinity that became orthodox. Arians in general believed that Christ was more than a man, less than the Father. They believe that Jesus was exalted and became divine as opposed to eteranlly existing with God. (Correct me if I am wrong) Of course, because of this, he was excomunicated and later poisoned.

Ah, I see. Yay for heresy!

It's sort of like the Kabbalists of the Jewish world. Sufis are mystics.

Linky: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~godlas/Sufism.html

We're the ones the wahhabists *really* want wiped out. Kinda the hippies of the Muslim world.

Pardon my ignorance, but are they the ones with the whorling dervish?

Pardon my ignorance, but are they the ones with the whorling dervish?

Yeah ... that's a branch of Sufi Islam. I'm not in that group.

My particular Sufism leaning is towards acts of love. I believe that Allah re-awakens my consciences with every act of love I perform ... everything from kissing my wife goodnight, to taking a few moments to explain Islam to a stranger, is an act of love. I believe the Hindus call it "Karma".

I believe Allah's pure essence is Love. Incidently, I also believe Jesus was the first Sufi. :)

Arians in general believed that Christ was more than a man, less than the Father. They believe that Jesus was exalted and became divine as opposed to eteranlly existing with God. (Correct me if I am wrong) Of course, because of this, he was excomunicated and later poisoned.


You're close. Bishop Arius believed that Jesus was a sort of demi-God, or an Avatar if you will. He was the leader of the Christian sect that believed that Jesus could not be both completely God and man, but had to be in between. He was technically never excomunicated though. On his way to Nicea for a meeting of all the bishops to discuss this very issue, he died under mysterious circumstances. (apologies to any who find this disgusting) He actually bled to death- it was violent, bloody diarrhea. At the time, it was thought to have been a sign that God struck him down- and the meeting went the other way partly because of it. His standpoint was determined to be heresy, and we got the Nicene Creed as a result of that very meeting. (which is the first instance of the Church acknowledging the idea of the Holy Trinity) Hence, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost were declared to be one being, rather than Jesus being a mere demi-god.
It has been argued that he was probably poisoned, but a newer scientific theory is that he may have had a severe case of Crohn's Disease.

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.



*runs screaming from the thread*

You don't know VoteEarly, do you? :D

Sorry ... no offense ... but there've been a couple of Calvinists on this forum in the past and they've been some of the worst trolls/flame baiters imaginable.

That whole "I'm Elect and you're not, so I can say and do whatever I want" business got a tad tiresome. I'm sure they don't represent you, though.

Spiritually enthusiastic about the dead. :D Religion makes asses out of us all, spiritualism is what we should strive for.

I would have to call myself Deist. I was raised Catholic and went to private Catholic school with the nuns. So, obviously, I am SO not Catholic. :rolleyes:
Hehehe

I'm a non-denom christian. Basically, my church was born out of the 'Jesus movement' in the late 60's and 70's.
Hugs to all who believe differently :fluffle: I always love a friendly discussion on what other people believe :)

I voted "Spiriutal, but not religious." I call myself 'neo-pagan' because it's a concise term that gives people some broad idea of what my beliefs are, but I don't follow any particular brand. I tend to think dogmatic religion is detrimental to spiritual growth and general harmony.

And atheism is only a religion when those who claim to be atheists make it into one. Many don't, but unfortunately, many do.

*runs screaming from the thread*

You don't know VoteEarly, do you? :D

Sorry ... no offense ... but there've been a couple of Calvinists on this forum in the past and they've been some of the worst trolls/flame baiters imaginable.

That whole "I'm Elect and you're not, so I can say and do whatever I want" business got a tad tiresome. I'm sure they don't represent you, though.

VoteEarly? :confused:

And yes, I believe in Election, but I keep my views to myself, and I respect all people and their beliefs, so long as they respect mine.

Pastafarian

VoteEarly? :confused:

And yes, I believe in Election, but I keep my views to myself, and I respect all people and their beliefs, so long as they respect mine.

But I also believe we're all sinners, present company included, so what's the point in judging people? And as for 'Elect,' I don't know if I'm one, nor do I pretend to know, as some very arrogant Calvinists I've met have.

True, actually, I don't think Buddhists or Wiccans ever burned Unitarians, but you're right, it's a very small group that haven't taken part in barbecuing us.
I'm a member of the Church of the Nazarene. If you've never heard of us, that's because we're relatively small (only 600,000 or so members in the US). Just for the record, we've never burned Unitarians (or anyone, for that matter).

You forgot Hinduism.

Yeah ... that's a branch of Sufi Islam. I'm not in that group.

My particular Sufism leaning is towards acts of love. I believe that Allah re-awakens my consciences with every act of love I perform ... everything from kissing my wife goodnight, to taking a few moments to explain Islam to a stranger, is an act of love. I believe the Hindus call it "Karma".

I believe Allah's pure essence is Love. Incidently, I also believe Jesus was the first Sufi. :)

What you are practicing (or trying to practice) is called "Bhakthi". What you incur doing that (or anything) is called "Karma".

You forgot Hinduism.

*Slaps self*

Sorry 'bout that. :( I knew I was forgetting one of the biggies. :headbang:

Anybody else out there Bahá'í? I am.

Question: Who is VoteEarly?

Anybody else out there Bahá'í? I am.

Cool! My dealings with Bahá'í have been very limited, but they have been pleasant. If I hadn't encountered Buddhism, I would have given much more thought to Bahá'í.

*Slaps self*

Sorry 'bout that. :( I knew I was forgetting one of the biggies. :headbang:

Never mind :)

evangelist

I'm agnostic but rely mainly on philosophy to guide me.

:fluffle: :fluffle: :fluffle:

Very spiritual and very extemely ANTI-organized religion of ANY KIND!! That includes any of the Neo-Pagan/Wiccan beliefs that say I "have" to follow someone else's viewpoints about anything.

:) :) :) :) :)

Militant agnostic.

heathen agnostic Fonzian of the brotherhood cool..

What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

I'm a devout coward.

why is no religion and atheism in the same place?

no religion: not believing in anything that cannot be proved

atheist: believing that there is no God

why is no religion and atheism in the same place?

no religion: not believing in anything that cannot be proved

atheist: believing that there is no God

I chalk it up to bias and misunderstanding. Kind of the same way someone would call all Asian people "Chinese."

I chalk it up to bias and misunderstanding. Kind of the same way someone would call all Asian people "Chinese."

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why is no religion and atheism in the same place?

no religion: not believing in anything that cannot be proved

atheist: believing that there is no God

Because, for the purposes of this thread they are the same. The question at hand is what religion are you? And atheism isn't a religion so it goes in the same spot as "no religion." I noticed that there are more nontheists than theists, does anybody think it would be a good idea to start a "What kind of nontheist are you?" thread?

Because, for the purposes of this thread they are the same. The question at hand is what religion are you? And atheism isn't a religion so it goes in the same spot as "no religion." I noticed that there are more nontheists than theists, does anybody think it would be a good idea to start a "What kind of nontheist are you?" thread?

Religion can also be described as "a cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." I can think of quite a few atheists (and a few agnostics) that would fit that particular description.

Religion can also be described as "a cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." I can think of quite a few atheists (and a few agnostics) that would fit that particular description.
But that would be a functional definiton (defining something by its effects). An essential definition would sound more like "A religion is a belief system that separates the world into two demensions: The supernatural and the natural (the sacred and the profane)." If we defined religion solely as zeal or devotion than baseball could be a religion.

good idea to start a "What kind of nontheist are you?" thread?
:rolleyes:
Nope, your asking for flames, and itd be pointless as we already have this thread. :gundge:

But that would be a functional definiton (defining something by its effects). An essential definition would sound more like "A religion is a belief system that separates the world into two demensions: The supernatural and the natural (the sacred and the profane)." If we defined religion solely as zeal or devotion than baseball could be a religion.

Why can't religion be centered around a specific activity? How else would one explain Rastafarianism?

Evangelic-Lutheran, ie. Protestant.

What you are practicing (or trying to practice) is called "Bhakthi". What you incur doing that (or anything) is called "Karma".

Oh okie ... thanks for the clarification. :)

Southern Baptist. :)

Atheism is not a religion.

Neither is Jewish, but there it is.

They are actually forruners to the Unitarians. Arius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius) argued in the council of Nicea (around 325 AD) against the Trinity that became orthodox. Arians in general believed that Christ was more than a man, less than the Father. They believe that Jesus was exalted and became divine as opposed to eteranlly existing with God. (Correct me if I am wrong) Of course, because of this, he was excomunicated and later poisoned.
exield and excomunicated yes poisoned no

I am a Southern Baptist

I am coptic orthodox christian you so left out the orthodox people so unfair.

Question: Who is VoteEarly?

An extremely conservative (he makes George W. Bush look like a member of the Communist Party), somewhat militant Calvinist who was very outspoken about his views, and also a fan of Pastor Fred Phelps (who is responsible for such websites as godhatesamerica.com, godhatesfags.com, etc.)

He was banned a while ago, he used to RP a nation called the Mississippian Federation (originally his nation was Communist Mississippi, but then it was Decisive Action, and finally it was VoteEarly) which was basically a reflection of his views, coupled with an extremely authoritarian government. He was quite well known, a while ago, and I always saw his nation as kind of the arch nemesis of nations like The Burnsien Desert and Hogsweat.

He has his own RP site now, and is still just as extremely conservative (socially) and Calvinist as he always was.

But that would be a functional definiton (defining something by its effects). An essential definition would sound more like "A religion is a belief system that separates the world into two demensions: The supernatural and the natural (the sacred and the profane)." If we defined religion solely as zeal or devotion than baseball could be a religion.

Argue with www.dictionary.com, not with me.

Member of the Religious Society of Friends (The Quakers).

What religion are you?
I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.
Info here (http://www.pb.org/).
I am a Deist of the Servetus/Socian pre-Nicean/Arian school of anti-Trinitarians.

As he did Servetus, Calvin would have burned me at the stake if the Inquisition didn't do it first.

They are actually forruners to the Unitarians. Arius (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arius) argued in the council of Nicea (around 325 AD) against the Trinity that became orthodox. Arians in general believed that Christ was more than a man, less than the Father. They believe that Jesus was exalted and became divine as opposed to eteranlly existing with God. (Correct me if I am wrong) Of course, because of this, he was excomunicated and later poisoned.
W00T! Someone else who knows of the Arian Controversy and exactly how big a deal "one iota" really is!

Michael Servetus could have singlehandedly brought us out of the dark ages if Calvin hadn't crisped him. Oh yes, so much more tolerant than those mean ol Inquisiting Catholics... :rolleyes:

Nominally I am catholic, however were it to be possible, i would be pagan, principally an adherent to Greek, Roman or Babylonian faith, since it is sooooooo much more fun that boring ("God says you can't do that!" "Why?" "Because he does") Christianity. :p

I follow the Whore of Rome. :)

There aren't many "Orthodox" Catholics in the UK. :(

An extremely conservative (he makes George W. Bush look like a member of the Communist Party), somewhat militant Calvinist who was very outspoken about his views, and also a fan of Pastor Fred Phelps (who is responsible for such websites as godhatesamerica.com, godhatesfags.com, etc.)

He was banned a while ago, he used to RP a nation called the Mississippian Federation (originally his nation was Communist Mississippi, but then it was Decisive Action, and finally it was VoteEarly) which was basically a reflection of his views, coupled with an extremely authoritarian government. He was quite well known, a while ago, and I always saw his nation as kind of the arch nemesis of nations like The Burnsien Desert and Hogsweat.

He has his own RP site now, and is still just as extremely conservative (socially) and Calvinist as he always was.

Ah...that kind of Calvinist. I've met those like him. Nasty people.

Looks like there are no shity muslims.

Looks like there are no shity muslims.

um i think you just insulted Kervalia and alot of other people saying that. anyway why do think that? its really mean and untrue

I am a very proud and happy protestant from Sweden, one of the first to adopt Protestantism, withc happenden under King Gustavus Vasa

um i think you just insulted Kervalia and alot of other people saying that. anyway why do think that? its really mean and untrue

Look in the polls Einstein, it said 0% shity Muslims.

Looks like there are no shity muslims.

What's wrong with Muslims? The vast majority of them are honest, good, peace-loving people.

What's wrong with Muslims? The vast majority of them are honest, good, peace-loving people.

I don't like Muslims because they invaded the town I grew up in Bosnia. :( Not to mention they killed innocent people there.

And, I said Shity Muslims because the religion in the polls sounds similar.

Catholic here

Pastafarian... Why wasn't pastafarian included?

Why is my religion being discriminated against?

Pastafarian... Why wasn't pastafarian included?

Why is my religion being discriminated against?

Hey, nothing personal, dude...it's just that I've never heard of your religion. :confused:

I am a Roman Catholic.

I can't believe Atheist is winning :mp5: :mad: , what is wrong with you people. I am also Roman Catholic! :) ;)

yea! go catholics!

What's with all the friggin athiests?

I am a Roman Satanist.

~Satanic Reverend Medivh~

Looks like there are no shity muslims.

Ummm ... Shi'ite ... Shee-Ite .... not shity.

Though they have a slight difference in their approach to Islam, the vast majority of Shi'ite Muslims are peaceful people who live only to serve Allah and the 5 pillars of Islam. They are my brothers and sisters and I find your statement repugnant and insulting.

Every Muslim who has responded has said "Sunni", yes, but remember that it is Sunni Muslims who are the insurgency in Iraq. Would you believe me to be like someone who would send a rocket attack against a bus full of children because I hold a different view of the Prophet and his succorship than my Shi'ite brothers?

No, of course you wouldn't. It may also surprise you to find out that the majority of Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya are Sufi, so you may have no idea.

Maybe you should simply come to the realisation that there is only one way to be Muslim and that the branches are merely different views on the Prophet, but do not change the practice of Islam nor the words of Allah. Anyone who attacks the innocent is not, I repeat, is *not* a Muslim.

I don't like Muslims because they invaded the town I grew up in Bosnia.

No I didn't and I would like an apology for your baseless accusation.

Christian-Catholic!

I don't like Muslims because they invaded the town I grew up in Bosnia. :( Not to mention they killed innocent people there.

And, I said Shity Muslims because the religion in the polls sounds similar.
Well....Looks like the person who posted wanted it to sound like that....
Its Usually believed as Shi'a and sunni....
I am a Muslim But I dont differentiate People in Islam as Shi'a or Sunni....
Its Jus that all are same.....Same Teaching and same belief.
And its jus a Religion thats been judged wrong.....and there are still few people worth to appreciate.....who understands Islam correctly.....
I have knowledge of Christian Testimony and little bit of Jewish....My Husband knows even something abt Hinduism and Buddhism....he teaches me.....
and every religion has kinda same moral......and all of them say ,not to accuse other Religion.

Religion is dumb.

Cthulhu!

Nah.. Sunni Muslim.

Ummm ... Shi'ite ... Shee-Ite .... not shity.

Though they have a slight difference in their approach to Islam, the vast majority of Shi'ite Muslims are peaceful people who live only to serve Allah and the 5 pillars of Islam. They are my brothers and sisters and I find your statement repugnant and insulting.

Every Muslim who has responded has said "Sunni", yes, but remember that it is Sunni Muslims who are the insurgency in Iraq. Would you believe me to be like someone who would send a rocket attack against a bus full of children because I hold a different view of the Prophet and his succorship than my Shi'ite brothers?

No, of course you wouldn't. It may also surprise you to find out that the majority of Muslims in Bosnia and Chechnya are Sufi, so you may have no idea.

Maybe you should simply come to the realisation that there is only one way to be Muslim and that the branches are merely different views on the Prophet, but do not change the practice of Islam nor the words of Allah. Anyone who attacks the innocent is not, I repeat, is *not* a Muslim.

I said shity Muslim to make a little joke apparently you don't get my humor.

[QUOTE=Keruvalia]No I didn't and I would like an apology for your baseless accusation.[/QUOTE

Yes you did. Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries came to Bosnia and helped the Bosnian Musims.

Well....Looks like the person who posted wanted it to sound like that....
Its Usually believed as Shi'a and sunni....
I am a Muslim But I dont differentiate People in Islam as Shi'a or Sunni....
Its Jus that all are same.....Same Teaching and same belief.
And its jus a Religion thats been judged wrong.....and there are still few people worth to appreciate.....who understands Islam correctly.....
I have knowledge of Christian Testimony and little bit of Jewish....My Husband knows even something abt Hinduism and Buddhism....he teaches me.....
and every religion has kinda same moral......and all of them say ,not to accuse other Religion.

True story, the Muslims did take over the town I grew up in.

I said shity Muslim to make a little joke apparently you don't get my humor.

Likely they got it, just found it in rather bad taste, like if I commented on how many Cretins have responded.

[QUOTE=Keruvalia]No I didn't and I would like an apology for your baseless accusation.[/QUOTE

Yes you did. Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries came to Bosnia and helped the Bosnian Musims.

And Keruvalia=the whole Saudi government? Cool! Can I have some oil, Keruvalia?

[QUOTE=BistroLand]

And Keruvalia=the whole Saudi government? Cool! Can I have some oil, Keruvalia?

Ironically, America also helped the Muslim. Today America is unfriendly w/ the Muslims, except the Saudis because they have oil and money.

While Germany helped Croatia. I'm not sure but I think Russia helped Serbia.

Christian here...I go to church and all, I just don't feel religious...I did, though...mebbe it's the :sniper: :mp5: :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :sniper: :mp5: ??or the :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

I said shity Muslim to make a little joke apparently you don't get my humor.

It wasn't funny. My best friend in primary school was a muslim. A really smart guy. As for calling me einstein i have an IQ of 140 and I'm only fourteen

It's a good IQ, don't waste your time playing this game and posting here, you will lose your intelligent brain cells.

I am a Roman Catholic, but I have basic Christian leanings.

I do disagree with Holy Mother Church on some issues, but I consider myself a decent Christian. I keep the Sabbath in my own ways, since I cannot always get to church. I think we should pray or venerate God on every day but the sabbath, because the sabbath is his day off to relax.

How would you feel if millions of people bothered you on your day off?

What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

You should have grouped all of the religions under "nut bag fanatics" all playing in your fantasy world of "God will save me", "Jesus loves me". It's all bull shit. If God just happened to exist, WOW what a fuckup.

You should have grouped all of the religions under "nut bag fanatics" all playing in your fantasy world of "God will save me", "Jesus loves me". It's all bull shit. If God just happened to exist, WOW what a fuckup.

Now, now, play nice.

Pastafarianism.

Here is our church website.

http://www.venganza.org/

RAmen

You should have grouped all of the religions under "nut bag fanatics" all playing in your fantasy world of "God will save me", "Jesus loves me". It's all bull shit. If God just happened to exist, WOW what a fuckup.

Prove that God doesn't exist.

Southern Baptist here!

Former Protestant, now I'm agnostic.

Prove that God doesn't exist.

Show me GOD.

I am a strong position agnostic most of the time. Which makes me extremely annoyed with organized religion mostly.

Agnostic, but that doesn't imply I'm considering a Middle-Eastern variety godhead. Indeed, I've pretty much completely ruled that out. :rolleyes:

I'm an Asatru/Odinist. Y'all call it "Norse Mythology".

Argue with www.dictionary.com, not with me.
From Dictionary.com

"Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. "

You should have grouped all of the religions under "nut bag fanatics" all playing in your fantasy world of "God will save me", "Jesus loves me". It's all bull shit. If God just happened to exist, WOW what a fuckup.

As opposed to nut bag fanatics playing in a fantasy world of "There is nothing beyond the physical" and "I'm the only one that can possibly have the correct beliefs"? Smells like religious dogma to me.

Maybe you should simply come to the realisation that there is only one way to be Muslim and that the branches are merely different views on the Prophet, but do not change the practice of Islam nor the words of Allah. Anyone who attacks the innocent is not, I repeat, is *not* a Muslim. You really should set up some form of Muslim Church, so you can excommunicate them. Just a thought.
Show me GOD. You were the one who made the completely unfounded statement in the first place. It's up to you to prove a negative.

I don't see Agnostiscm on that list. Athiest just seems to imply that someone is like "GOD DOESN'T EXIST! I AM SURE OF IT!"

An Agnostic Option would have been good for Fence-Sitters.
Nope. Atheists don't believe in god. No religion is a rather good description. Agnostics realise that they (and all others) can't know anything about god, or in other words see the difference between faith and knowledge, even about their own faith. Agnostics either belong to some religion (but are extremely pragmatic) or are atheists.

Born and raised a Catholic- abandoned organised religion and all its trappings for philosophy- primarly leaning towards Buddhism- but mainly used to live better without relying on the 'assistance' of divine intervention.

I think atheism is not a religion, but not because of any significant difference in the type of faith compared to that of religions, but because of the lack of structure; Atheism has no holy texts or men, no organized church, no restrictions or moral codes to govern its followers' lives, etc. However, it's similar to religions in the way that it does express an opinion concerning the supernatural just like religions do. "No religion" I think would better describe agnosticism, which does no such thing. I think the term to use, regarding atheism, is not 'religion', but 'belief system'. On a level of personal faith, it's very similar to religions, and I tend to dislike the habit of some atheists to loudly proclaim that they're not religious.

As for myself, I've been a strong atheist for as long as I can remember.

Yes you did. Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries came to Bosnia and helped the Bosnian Musims.

Last I checked, I'm an Irish Jewish American Muslim .... not a drop of Arab blood and I did not invade anything.

And Keruvalia=the whole Saudi government? Cool! Can I have some oil, Keruvalia?

Yes ... would you like Olive or Peanut? :D

What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

I'm Christian Reformed, specifically Presbyterian... more specifically a member of the Presbyterian Church in America, James River Presbytry (of Virginia), of All-Saints Reformed Presbyterian Church.

I have nothing against calvanism. I find it incredibly interesting because it believes in predestination of people to hell. I honestly thought that branch of christianity died out.

Actually, not directly, depends on the "type" of Calvinism, there are a few different "Houses" of belief in Calvinism... Supralapsarianism and Infralapsarianism and Amryaldism, Supralapsarian, believes in predestination to heaven and hell... Infralapsarian believes in predestination only to heaven (that is some are choosen for heaven, the rest are "passed over"); and Amryaldism steps over Infra, and applies that salvation is sufficient for all (but only some are elected, the rest are passed over)...... I tend to side heavily Calvinstic/Amryalidist.

(On a side not, you also have a branch of anti-nomianism known as "Hyper-Calvinsim"; thoigh this should not be associated with mainline Calvinism- Hyper-Calvinists believe election existed dis-connected with shows of faith... sic. a Hyper-Calvists basically believe they can sin all they want, and still get into heaven (because of election).... Main-line Calvinism does not teach this... Our atitudes and actions act as a show-of-faith (much as repentance is an act, and not merely speech)... And thereby a guage of our spiritual state...)

I went for 'spiritual, but not religious', although atheist would be equally as accurate. I don't believe in a god, or any kind of divinity/supernatural power. I believe in what exists, what can be seen and witnessed in the world as it is, that is, in myself and in other people and creatures. I don't believe in a soul, or an afterlife, I believe in being kind for being kind's sake, not in being kind in order to get to heaven (I have met religious people - Christian and non Christian - who do have that attitude, and heard people say 'what's the point in being nice if there's no heaven?'). I practise Buddhist meditation for my benefit and for others - not in a praying-type way, 'for others' as in it's nicer for other people when I'm calm and peaceful and wishing them well. However, I don't follow the Dharma as such and do not identify as a Buddhist. I think the best way of life is to be kind to yourself and to others, simple as. Not because Jesus or Mohammed or Shakyamuni tells me to, but because of the self-evident effects of being kind. Man, that was a bit of a ramble. Sorry people.

Pastafarian... Why wasn't pastafarian included?

Why is my religion being discriminated against?

Meh, Quakers never get listed on these things either and we're not loaded with carbs.

Meh, Quakers never get listed on these things either and we're not loaded with carbs. You come under the general heading of "Proddie". :D

Whats your religion?

I am a Nazi Occultist! :D

no im an Aetheis.

True story, the Muslims did take over the town I grew up in.
Yeh Probably thats true.... Coz Prophet Adam who was created was hypnotized by Satan than introduced other kinda religion to divert him from Worshipping God.....
then Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) was a true worshipper ...he followed right thing....then his generation was again Lured in the wrong way....them Prophet Muhammad came to Portray ....... and when he came.....there were not much followers by his time....as Satan was successful.......
But now,its growing after Prophet Muhammad.......so when its growing Naturally People tend to get bigger in population and when population gets bigger in place....it seems like they have invaded.....well This world is for each and every Creation to live created by God.......Creation in the sense Human,Trees,Animals etc........so why dont we differentiate the Creation like this....Human,Animal,Tree rather than differentiating as Christian,Jews,Muslims,Hindus etc....or American,Chinese,Arabs,British... You Get me?

Yeh Probably thats true.... Coz Prophet Adam who was created was hypnotized by Satan than introduced other kinda religion to divert him from Worshipping God.....
then Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) was a true worshipper ...he followed right thing....then his generation was again Lured in the wrong way....them Prophet Muhammad came to Portray ....... and when he came.....there were not much followers by his time....as Satan was successful.......
But now,its growing after Prophet Muhammad.......so when its growing Naturally People tend to get bigger in population and when population gets bigger in place....it seems like they have invaded.....well This world is for each and every Creation to live created by God.......Creation in the sense Human,Trees,Animals etc........so why dont we differentiate the Creation like this....Human,Animal,Tree rather than differentiating as Christian,Jews,Muslims,Hindus etc....or American,Chinese,Arabs,British... You Get me?
why does Muhammed think that all holy books are corrupt except the Koran, I don't like that bacause nothing is wrong with the other holy books

why does Muhammed think that all holy books are corrupt except the Koran, I don't like that bacause nothing is wrong with the other holy books
Did Prophet Muhammad Say so???? Did You ask Him???
Prophet Muhammad is known for Teachin People to respect Others.It even disappoints him when he hears someone accuse a person who does wrong.

There is a story I was told that prophet Muhammad once visited an Old Lady who fell sick,The one who used to Ridicule at him whenever he passed her House,One day she wasnt there to do so and prophet Muhammad went to her place to see what was wrong, and met her and enquired abt her health which made her feel guilty.-------------> God know if the story is true or not......But it atleast teaches us how to behave,isn't it??
Well I believe that all 4 Holy book was sent by One God......Torat,Zabur,Injil and Koran.
The only difference is Koran is the Only book that has never been rewritten by People( coz people tend to make changes and Satan will be helping to do so,and God kept sending book again and again for people to follow only what he says). Koran stays in the same Old format,The Old Arabic which even Arabs dont speak much, and People learn to read Arabic to read Koran.....Its has been ofcourse traslated in many languages so people can understand what it means......But cant change the words in Koran.....not even the exclamation marks.
If You happen to read the "Right" translation of Koran,You wont find much difference of it from Other Holy Books.Its almost the same.

What religion are you?

I'm a Primitive Baptist/Calvinist.

Info here (http://www.pb.org/).

I'm mainly Baptist, or believe like one, I believe yous hould earn your faith to be baptized, and i believe homosexuality is wrong, but shouldn't have rights taken away, and i believe that Jesus is coming soon, and i'm not going to hide from him.

I think the best way of life is to be kind to yourself and to others, simple as. Not because Jesus or Mohammed or Shakyamuni tells me to, but because of the self-evident effects of being kind.

I like this guy

You come under the general heading of "Proddie". :D

Bah! Slanderous lies!

Mostly.

:D

I think the best way of life is to be kind to yourself and to others, simple as. Not because Jesus or Mohammed or Shakyamuni tells me to, but because of the self-evident effects of being kind. Man, that was a bit of a ramble. Sorry people.

Actually, nowadays it seems like most people have to be "bribed" with something, be it a reward or a fear of punishment, just to stay on the right side of the law. Nobody seems to want to do the right thing simply because it IS the right thing to do. Even kids. You have to bribe them to do what they should be doing anyway out of self-respect and respect for others, or else threaten to take some priviledge away. Otherwise they just spit in your face.

Bah! Slanderous lies!

Mostly.

:D Does that make my lot Cathies? Or Catties?

You should have grouped all of the religions under "nut bag fanatics" all playing in your fantasy world of "God will save me", "Jesus loves me". It's all bull shit. If God just happened to exist, WOW what a fuckup.


Cool it, Delgrad. Insults have no place here. Either you quit this debate, or you knock off the personal insults.

I'm an Asatru/Odinist. Y'all call it "Norse Mythology".

cool the norse pantheon (sp?). Im pagan as well but celtic Mythology

It's a good IQ, don't waste your time playing this game and posting here, you will lose your intelligent brain cells.

lol no NS is cool. most of you guys are older and smarter in actual knowledge.

I am a devout Catholic. One might call me an "Apologist" (Defender of the Faith/Catholic Doctrine and Dogma).

I'm mainly Baptist, or believe like one, I believe yous hould earn your faith to be baptized, and i believe homosexuality is wrong, but shouldn't have rights taken away, and i believe that Jesus is coming soon, and i'm not going to hide from him.

I'm just curious. Do you believe that Jesus is actually coming soon (as in a few years), or that when he does come, he will come quickly "like a thief in the night". Or both? Personally I don't pretend to know, I just try to emulate Christ as best I can every day.

lol no NS is cool. most of you guys are older and smarter in actual knowledge.


Why do I have this strong urge to add "n stuff" to the end of that sentence? heh ...

Show me GOD.

You dont have to see something for it to exist. Your banana has potassium, but you can't see the potassium, yet potassium still exist.

Is that the best you got? You gotta do much better than "Show me God".

Last I checked, I'm an Irish Jewish American Muslim .... not a drop of Arab blood and I did not invade anything.

What a bad combo.

The Muslims and Jews hate each other. The Irish Catholics hate the Jews because they killed Jesus.

The Irish Catholics hate the Jews because they killed Jesus.

Which is extremely unwarranted (not that any justification for hate is warranted, but this isn't even logical). It's silly when one thinks of it. First and foremost, Jesus and many of the early Christians were themselves Jews. The Apostle Paul himself followed the Jewish Laws. Secondly, it was under Roman law and Pontius Pilate's decision to comdemn Jesus to death. Granted, it was under increasing pressure from the Jewish heirarchy that Pilate made his decision, but still, he could have said no.

Which is extremely unwarranted (not that any justification for hate is warranted, but this isn't even logical). It's silly when one thinks of it. First and foremost, Jesus and many of the early Christians were themselves Jews. The Apostle Paul himself followed the Jewish Laws. Secondly, it was under Roman law and Pontius Pilate's decision to comdemn Jesus to death. Granted, it was under increasing pressure from the Jewish heirarchy that Pilate made his decision, but still, he could have said no.

Saying "the Jews killed Jesus" is as silly as saying "the Irish killed Jesus" would be if Jesus had been in Ireland instead of where he was. Remember, most of the apostles were themselves jewish, so the point is really more that Jesus' own people, and in a larger way, humanity as a whole, killed him.

Which is extremely unwarranted (not that any justification for hate is warranted, but this isn't even logical). It's silly when one thinks of it. First and foremost, Jesus and many of the early Christians were themselves Jews. The Apostle Paul himself followed the Jewish Laws. Secondly, it was under Roman law and Pontius Pilate's decision to comdemn Jesus to death. Granted, it was under increasing pressure from the Jewish heirarchy that Pilate made his decision, but still, he could have said no.

Doctrine holds all of us in accountance for Christ's death. We are all equally as guilty as the Jews. Any Irish Catholic believing that isn't basing his or her opinion on dogma. And Irish Catholicism isn't a religion or rite. Perhaps they are from the Latin (Roman) Catholic rite?

I'm Catholic by the way.

You dont have to see something for it to exist. Your banana has potassium, but you can't see the potassium, yet potassium still exist.
I can test whether there is potassium in something. I personally don't know how, but there is quite certainly some way to determine, otherwise we couldn't have known that potassium is there in the first place, and I could probably be taught it.

Doctrine holds all of us in accountance for Christ's death. We are all equally as guilty as the Jews. Any Irish Catholic believing that isn't basing his or her opinion on dogma. And Irish Catholicism isn't a religion or rite. Perhaps they are from the Latin (Roman) Catholic rite?

I agree wholeheartedly. As you said, the Irish Catholic who believes this fallacy is NOT basing it on Catholic dogma, so therefore, I used historical evidence to refute their claim. I know Irish Catholicism is not a religion/rite, I wasn't claiming it is. I'm merely dismissing the validity of Irish Catholics (or any Catholics for that matter) in hating the Jews. I had hoped I made that clear...

I'm Catholic too by the way. :)

What about the time when there was no method for detecting potassium, when there was no knowledge of elements? Did potassium exist then or did it not? Did it just spring into existence the first time it was invented?
Saying something doesn't exist just because you cannot observe it or prove it isn't valid. Unless you can conclusively prove the existence or non-existence of God, you are in a domain of belief. You can believe God exists or doesn't exist, and this is called faith, or lack of it.

Btw, I'm a Catholic.

I can test whether there is potassium in something. I personally don't know how, but there is quite certainly some way to determine, otherwise we couldn't have known that potassium is there in the first place, and I could probably be taught it.

What about the idea of a triangle? We can determine characteristics of the idea of "triangle" by saying it has 180 degrees, three angles and is a closed figure. But a triangle is not real. It is defined by three line sements (which are infinitely small and therefore cannot be seen) and by degrees, which are not something tangible either. Belief in God is just like believing in the idea of a "triangle". We cannot prove it, yet we attempt to describe them using physical proof. I assume you believe a triangle is real, and you accept the reality that it cannot be fully described. How is belief in God any different? I can attribute my knowing God exists by observing nature and natural law, miraculous events, the innate human sense of right and wrong, etc. Whether you realize it or not, humans take things for granted that cannot be neither proven nor objectified.

What about the time when there was no method for detecting potassium, when there was no knowledge of elements? Did potassium exist then or did it not? Did it just spring into existence the first time it was invented?
Touché.
I suppose an argument to rebut that would be that it is better to disbelieve in something true due to lack of evidence rather than believe in something untrue due to that, or something of the sort?
Saying something doesn't exist just because you cannot observe it or prove it isn't valid. Unless you can conclusively prove the existence or non-existence of God, you are in a domain of belief. You can believe God exists or doesn't exist, and this is called faith, or lack of it.
In that case, it comes down to whether or not one should believe something that they do not have physical evidence of.

What a bad combo.

The Muslims and Jews hate each other. The Irish Catholics hate the Jews because they killed Jesus.
you know I never really understood that. I mean actually the romans killed Jesus, the Jews just kinda set it up, but anyway it was kinda like a favor to me because if Jesus hadn't died, I was sooo bound for eternal damnation. ;)

I'm an Asatru/Odinist. Y'all call it "Norse Mythology".

Is Thor still into eating those goats of his?

Irreligious agnostic

What about the idea of a triangle? We can determine characteristics of the idea of "triangle" by saying it has 180 degrees, three angles and is a closed figure. But a triangle is not real. It is defined by three line sements (which are infinitely small and therefore cannot be seen) and by degrees, which are not something tangible either. Belief in God is just like believing in the idea of a "triangle". We cannot prove it, yet we attempt to describe them using physical proof. I assume you believe a triangle is real, and you accept the reality that it cannot be fully described. How is belief in God any different? I can attribute my knowing God exists by observing nature and natural law, miraculous events, the innate human sense of right and wrong, etc. Whether you realize it or not, humans take things for granted that cannot be neither proven nor objectified.

But Triangles don't exist in the physical world. If you came up to me and said you had seen a real triangle I would say: "But silly Viking, triangles don't really exist, you can't have a perfectly straight line. Triangles only exist in the fictional world of mathematics". That's the same way God works. Obviously such a thing could not exist in the physical world as it would have no motivation to do anything. It exists in mythology, but that doesn't mean it exists in reality.

I think religion is a grand cerimonial waste of time. History supports this.

Which is extremely unwarranted (not that any justification for hate is warranted, but this isn't even logical). It's silly when one thinks of it. First and foremost, Jesus and many of the early Christians were themselves Jews. The Apostle Paul himself followed the Jewish Laws. Secondly, it was under Roman law and Pontius Pilate's decision to comdemn Jesus to death. Granted, it was under increasing pressure from the Jewish heirarchy that Pilate made his decision, but still, he could have said no.

The Jews didn't except Jesus as their leader.

They told the Romans that they wanted Jesus dead. So they killed Jesus.

I can test whether there is potassium in something. I personally don't know how, but there is quite certainly some way to determine, otherwise we couldn't have known that potassium is there in the first place, and I could probably be taught it.

Or you could use a microscope.

The bible proves that god is real. There are so many stories in the bible, do you think they made all up. No one has an imagination that creative. They are real stories, plus no one would waste their time writing the bible, if god didn't exist.

And how do u explain the miracles Jesus did? Real

plus no one would waste their time writing the bible, if god didn't exist.

As a Christian, I still say that's a poor argument. People waste time ALL the time. Like me!

The bible proves that god is real. There are so many stories in the bible, do you think they made all up. No one has an imagination that creative. They are real stories, plus no one would waste their time writing the bible, if god didn't exist.

And how do u explain the miracles Jesus did? Real
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These "let's take the bible literally word for word society" guys crack me up. :D
I'll tell you what jesus was. He was a rebel. A skeptic. He broke all the rules and got himself killed by the religious establishment. The cross is a symbol of one's self sacrifice to a cause, wether it's two hours spent writing a speech or being tortured in a jail cell by the thought police. All else about miracles and God is metaphor, baloney, brainwashing, broken telephone, indulging of stories, (they didn't have much for broadband in those days). Stories got round through word of mouth... so they didn't need to be creative, but they where anyway.

Stories made up to scare, frighten and enforce belief upon the populace... apparently it's worked. For how many of you have actually conscientiously, and impartially chosen the religion you practice?

The bible proves that god is real. There are so many stories in the bible, do you think they made all up. No one has an imagination that creative.

Try reading the Lotus Sutra sometime. Ever heard of someone trying to explain physics to a goldfish? Read that and you will feel like a goldfish. :D

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These "let's take the bible literally word for word society" guys crack me up. :D
I'll tell you what jesus was. He was a rebel. A skeptic. He broke all the rules and got himself killed by the religious establishment. The cross is a symbol of one's self sacrifice to a cause, wether it's two hours spent writing a speech or being tortured in a jail cell by the thought police. All else about miracles and God is metaphor, baloney, brainwashing, broken telephone, indulging of stories, (they didn't have much for broadband in those days). Stories got round through word of mouth... so they didn't need to be creative, but they where anyway.

Stories made up to scare, frighten and enforce belief upon the populace... apparently it's worked. For how many of you have actually conscientiously, and impartially chosen the religion you practice?


It's not about finding proof to believe. It's about saying fuck the proof, and just believe. and follow some of the rules. not following sex rules and masturbation rules is a minor offense.

God makes it hard for us to believe in him on purpose because he doesnt want any scumbag like you getting a free ticket to heaven.

Try reading the Lotus Sutra sometime. Ever heard of someone trying to explain physics to a goldfish? Read that and you will feel like a goldfish. :D

What is Lotus Sutra?

It's not about finding proof to believe. It's about saying fuck the proof, and just believe. and follow some of the rules. not following sex rules and masturbation rules is a minor offense.

God makes it hard for us to believe in him on purpose because he doesnt want any scumbag like you getting a free ticket to heaven.
I don't believe in heaven... I don't believe in god. I'm not a scumbag... I'm a very nice guy. It's only normal that you bend the rules a bit.. after all if you had not done so the Earth would still be the center of the universe.

I don't believe in heaven... I don't believe in god. I'm not a scumbag... I'm a very nice guy. It's only normal that you bend the rules a bit.. after all if you had not done so the Earth would still be the center of the universe.

If you are a nice guy than why do you have to trash religions.

What is Lotus Sutra?
The Lotus Sutra is one of many sutras (teachings) in Buddhism. It starts off reasonably well grounded in what could be said to be "normal" reality and from there goes off to describe things with numbers so large that they can't possibly exist in a "normal" concept of reality.

If you are a nice guy than why do you have to trash religions.Hey I respect religions (particularly Budhism), and most of them work out nicely. I just think it's rare and uncanny to come across individuals that still believe in the bible "literally word for word", in this day and age. And personally I have no use for religion. I can acomplish alot more good for and with my fellow mankind without wasting my time on religion.

Now between that stance and trashing religion, I think there's a bit of a gap.

Why do I have this strong urge to add "n stuff" to the end of that sentence? heh ...

:confused:

Atheist (I believe in no god)/Egotheist (I believe I am God).

But Triangles don't exist in the physical world. If you came up to me and said you had seen a real triangle I would say: "But silly Viking, triangles don't really exist, you can't have a perfectly straight line. Triangles only exist in the fictional world of mathematics". That's the same way God works. Obviously such a thing could not exist in the physical world as it would have no motivation to do anything. It exists in mythology, but that doesn't mean it exists in reality.

Still, you cannot deny the interaction between the mathematical and the physical world (and the third one, psychological world). If the rules of the mathematical world describe the behaviour of the physical world, the physical world being the basis of thought and understanding (psychological world) and psychological world comprising (comprehending) the mathematical world, how can you deny the existence of the mathematical world as "fictional"? Immaterial!=Fictional.
One can always ask a question who put the above mentioned worlds in motion? Everybody has their own answer. Somebody's answer is nobody, my answer is God. And no argument can change any person's answer. Religion is not a science, it deals with different things and questions than science. Religion is complementary to science. Science recognizes its boundaries in attempts to explain the world (Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, Godel's incompleteness theorem etc.), so a person can either come in peace with the fact that he would never completely understand the world, or be religious.

I am generally speaking an agnostic... but, I suppose technically I am a member of the Church of Sweden, so that makes me a protestant Christian (Lutheran).

Other. I'm a Salist. It's a melting pot of many religions whereas I took the beliefs I truely believe in and made one religion out of it. It's mostly Christianity and Buddism.

Atheism rulez.

Atheist (I believe in no god)/Egotheist (I believe I am God).

Egotheist. That is brilliant!

Egotheist. That is brilliant! It wouldn't be egotheist - that's a mixture of Greek and Latin. Replace "ego" with whatever the Greek for "I" is.

It wouldn't be egotheist - that's a mixture of Greek and Latin. Replace "ego" with whatever the Greek for "I" is.

Spoilsport. Egotheist sounds fantastic. Who's with me?

I'm Buddhist, though a test said I was 1% more Universal Unitarian. I used to be an ego-theist though, and occasionally I'm agnostic.

If you could get into heaven by only believing, you'll be there with Hitler and a bunch of other people who took things a bit too far. All the nicest people end up in hell ^_~

Interesting to see how many people don't believe in mainstream religion. Now I don't feal so condemned to the pits of hell*.



*assuming there is a hell that is..

I'm Reform Jewish, but my viewpoint is slightly more Reconstructionist.

I selected 'other' as you did not list agnostic on your poll.I have my doubts 'bout this 'God' fellow and this Jesus guy's divinity, but that doesn't mean I completely deny the posibility.I suppose I'll find out if/when I burn in hell for lack of faith or when nothing happens. Besides, 'Virgin' Mary :rolleyes: , give me a break! (Just my opinion).

What a bad combo.

Well fuck you, too.

The Muslims and Jews hate each other.

No we don't. Some do, but not even close to a majority.

The Irish Catholics hate the Jews because they killed Jesus.

My Jewish family in Belfast can prove your statement completely false.

It wouldn't be egotheist - that's a mixture of Greek and Latin. Replace "ego" with whatever the Greek for "I" is.

ego is also Greek for I. Well to do a proper transliteration you'd want a micron over the e and a macron over the o as it's spelled epsilon-gamma-omega. But it's still the same word, so egotheism is fine.

I like this guy

Lol, girl, but cheers anyway :)

Lol, girl, but cheers anyway :)

Sowwie! couldn’t decide, so guessed. but yeah hehe I agree completely.

My Jewish family in Belfast can prove your statement completely false. Heh, they're too busy killing the "proddies" to care about Jews.

Incidentally, the whole "Jews killed Christ" thing is uncalled for and unChristian - they did, just as most of US would have done if we were around back then - and Jesus forgave them, so they don't carry the blame. Sorry, ranted. :)

Missouri Synod Lutheran here.

Devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Just your friendly neighborhood Mormon.

As opposed to nut bag fanatics playing in a fantasy world of "There is nothing beyond the physical" and "I'm the only one that can possibly have the correct beliefs"? Smells like religious dogma to me.

How can knowing what is real and what is not be fantasy?

You really should set up some form of Muslim Church, so you can excommunicate them. Just a thought.
You were the one who made the completely unfounded statement in the first place. It's up to you to prove a negative.

Unfounded statement? Unfounded statements are those claiming that a god exsists. The only god is the one that exsists within the minds of the weak.

You dont have to see something for it to exist. Your banana has potassium, but you can't see the potassium, yet potassium still exist.

Is that the best you got? You gotta do much better than "Show me God".

Then people have to do better than "Prove God does not exsist".

Delgrad, why are you even on this thread? You don't have a religion.

Devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Just your friendly neighborhood Mormon.

Get thee behind me Satan! :D

Delgrad, why are you even on this thread? You don't have a religion.

Just from his last few posts on here it seems he takes atheism in a religious manner. Anyway, it is a poll option. I just wish he would stop misrepresenting us, though.

Delgrad, why are you even on this thread? You don't have a religion.

Your point is...

Your point is...

That you appear to be posting in this thread just to be an asshole.

Oh oh oh, I know, I know!

I am all religions!
In fact, I'm god.

Can anyone really argue proof? Nope, so don't bother.

On the serious side, I follow (Or rather bring back and update to my culture) the religion of ancient Sumer. I'm too lazy to go into detail again (I've done it here alot already). So I'll just rub it in your faces that I can bitch at, argue with, insult, or be nice to, love, or whatever any of my gods and goddesses as I please, I'm nit bound to love and worship one (or more) god(s) for any reason.

Of course, if I start insulting them I don't get their favor, which isn't exactly helping. But you live and deal with it.


On a secondary note, to the argument that "The Jews Killed Jesus".
If I remember Chrsianity correctly, god is all powerful, and all knowing, and responsible for everything?
Wouldn't that mean that god killed Jesus?
And if that's the case, why don't Christians hate god?

On a secondary note, to the argument that "The Jews Killed Jesus".
If I remember Chrsianity correctly, god is all powerful, and all knowing, and responsible for everything?
Wouldn't that mean that god killed Jesus?
And if that's the case, why don't Christians hate god?

The best argument I've heard for it is that he had the Jews kill Jesus to punish the sins of humanity, but as JC was only half human and the other half was god the Jews still had to be punsihed for killing the divine part. It's still really sketchy, but at least its an answer.

The best argument I've heard for it is that he had the Jews kill Jesus to punish the sins of humanity, but as JC was only half human and the other half was god the Jews still had to be punsihed for killing the divine part. It's still really sketchy, but at least its an answer.


But it would still be gods fault, because he had it done.
Like in the case of the Holocaust, Hitler never killed a jew with a gas chamber, or personally forced them to work slave labour, he told his officers to do it, and they had their subordinates do it. But of course it's still Hitlers fault.
I apply the same logic here, regardless of who god told to do what, he still is responsible for the order, and thus responsible for killing Jesus.

Episcopalian! Ha!

Episcopal Church, Anglican church of the United States. Its separate existence as an American ecclesiastical body with its own episcopate began in 1789.

Doctrine and Organization
The Episcopal Church maintains that the Holy Scriptures are the ultimate rule of faith. Its symbols of doctrine are the Apostles' and the Nicene Creed and the Thirty-nine Articles of the Church of England, with certain modifications to fit American conditions. The ministry is of three orders: deacons, priests, and bishops. The system of organization includes the parish, the diocese, the province, and the General Convention. The General Convention, the highest ecclesiastical authority in the church, consists of the House of Bishops and the House of Deputies and meets in session every three years. The ecclesiastical head of the church is the presiding bishop, elected by the General Convention. The National Council, set up in 1919, is delegated by the General Convention to administer all the organized missionary, educational, and social work. The church has almost 2.5 million members in the United States (1999).

I'm not completly sure what religion i am i belive in god but not Jesus and i dont belive in any one organized religeon and i live in springfield mo so i am in the epicenter of the evenglical cristian movement. and every one in my family is a devote presbitarian. as in 5 ministers

LaVeyan Satanist here. Used to be athiest though. I get a laugh everytime someone finds out, actually had someone asked if I sacrificed anyone before...of course he was something of a cretin...so...yeah. Yup, I sure do eat babies and sacrifice animals to appease Satan, mhm. Just like how I topple mountains with one nasty look. :rolleyes:

Though I havn't really been able to get the Satanic Bible he wrote...could probably order from hundreds of miles away in Newfoundland or something of the sort, but ya know, actually going to pick it up from the library...eh. Y'all, hopefully y'all, know how 90% (exhaggeration!) of the populace tends to bias anything that says(god forbid!) Satanism. But, eh, should probably learn to stomach the biased idiots and just go do it.

I really do admire catholics/christians though, I really don't know why. Maybe it's the ability for such faith? Not meant to offend any of them meaning it's hard to find someone faithful that could follow it, just that they have the ability to have faith alone.

Why am I really typing this? Lack of something signifigant to do maybe? I'm a big nut with religion, been looking-up about all of the religions mentioned here that I've never heard of. Could anybody mention similar religions that aren't well known? Give me something to do really. Plus a larger range of knowledge in the supernatural.

LaVeyan Satanist here. Used to be athiest though. I get a laugh everytime someone finds out, actually had someone asked if I sacrificed anyone before...of course he was something of a cretin...so...yeah. Yup, I sure do eat babies and sacrifice animals to appease Satan, mhm. Just like how I topple mountains with one nasty look. :rolleyes:

yeah someone found out I was Pagan and asked if I could turn people into animals. Yes would you like me to turn you into a frog?

Hinduism

I believe the power of religon lies in faith not in arguments. You can continue with arguments all your life about faith but you will go nowher. I believe faith is important in our lives.....faith does not only mean faith of the God but also faith on your wife, friends, relatives or whatever. I mean, I say, "I believe in the God," because I have faith on Him. Similarly, I say, "I love my mother" as I have faith on her. Now you can't prove to justify my faith on my mother, similarly, you cannot justify your faith on the God or the existence of God. If you don't "see" the God, fine, don't believe in him. If you "see" the God, believe in him!

I feel the existence of a power and therefore, I believe in God. If you don't feel the existence, well, don't believe in it!

Hinduism
I feel the existence of a power and therefore, I believe in God. If you don't feel the existence, well, don't believe in it!

I like this guy (hope i'm guessing right this time)

Missouri Synod Lutheran here.


Same here.

I'm Orthodox Christian, and also curious why they left out such a large portion of Christians. I mean, there's more Orthodox than Prodestants in the world.

LaVeyan Satanist here. Used to be athiest though. I get a laugh everytime someone finds out, actually had someone asked if I sacrificed anyone before...of course he was something of a cretin...so...yeah. Yup, I sure do eat babies and sacrifice animals to appease Satan, mhm. Just like how I topple mountains with one nasty look. :rolleyes:

Though I havn't really been able to get the Satanic Bible he wrote...could probably order from hundreds of miles away in Newfoundland or something of the sort, but ya know, actually going to pick it up from the library...eh. Y'all, hopefully y'all, know how 90% (exhaggeration!) of the populace tends to bias anything that says(god forbid!) Satanism. But, eh, should probably learn to stomach the biased idiots and just go do it.

I really do admire catholics/christians though, I really don't know why. Maybe it's the ability for such faith? Not meant to offend any of them meaning it's hard to find someone faithful that could follow it, just that they have the ability to have faith alone. Didn't LaVey say something about his brand of Satanism being started up as a joke? I heard that somewhere.

Incidentally, some of us don't make a choice to have faith, so it's often not worthy of admiration.

i am roman catholic but disagree on some points with the Church.

I'm an agnostic, but the option wasn't on the poll.

Well, technically I'm an apathetic agnostic, to be more precise. I don't know if God exists, and quite frankly it doesn't matter much to me.

True Blue Discordian

Lavey Satanist.

Reformed Huitzilopochtlist

Agnostic - there may be a god, there may not be a god. In either case, I couldn’t care less.

Im Jewish!!!!!!!! :D

I see more than 38% are Atheist........
I guess its all because they belong to a Religion where their parents belong.....But some get to realize its not the Right path and become doubtful about it.
Or Parents dont know what to teach coz they doubt it.....hence they end up
Atheist....