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Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.

If we don't have Lenin, at least we'll still have Eva Peron. And King Tut, for that matter.

Resurrect him.

They can't bury him. He's a tourist attraction. They could make a fortune charging admission to see him and selling souveniers. Lenin could make a posthumous contribution to Russian capitalism.

Maybe they're running out of ice.

I seriously doubt that the Soviet-nostalgic Putin is going to let it happen.

apparently after he died they did use a simple defribulator to try and ressurect him.

after 4 strokes thats a bit optimistic

They should totally bury him. It's actually what he wanted. He dreaded being paraded around as if he was better than ordinary Russians.

They should totally bury him. It's actually what he wanted. He dreaded being paraded around as if he was better than ordinary Russians.But he had no problem with not letting other Russians rule Russia since professional revolutionaries (like him) were better at that than normal Russians...

Lenin's time has gone. Bury him.

Personally, I've always found the display of dead bodies a bit ghoulish. How the hell is having people come see your corpse supposed to be an honor?

:confused:

well yes i dont think that putin will let his countrys greatest man and his best friend go to the earth. he'll be trying to keep him out for as long as possible.

Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.

burn him... he ushered communism into the modern world (practically speaking).

(i'm joking about the burning part)

Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.
What are you talking about? What's wrong with burying him?

burn him... he ushered communism into the modern world (practically speaking).

(i'm joking about the burning part)
Is this like that stigma against cremation that I've noticed on television shows? What's wrong with cremation?

We should've buried Lenin in 1991.

they should stick strings on him like a puppet a make it look like he's come back to life then go around scaring children in fact I think I just made a Halloween costume :D

another great Halloween gag Russia could play

Bah, the garbage dump is good enough for Vladimir Illich.

But seriously, why not make a tourist attraction out of him and make some money? After the mess he created for his people, it's the least he could do. ;)

they should stick strings on him like a puppet a make it look like he's come back to life then go around scaring children in fact I think I just made a Halloween costume :D

another great Halloween gag Russia could play

Better still, somebody is picked at random by a secret lottery every week. Then Lenin's corpse is smuggled into the 'lucky winner's' house and propped up in the wardrobe. When they go to open the wardrobe Lenin falls out on them. Imagine the paranoia it could generate!!!! :p

Bah, the garbage dump is good enough for Vladimir Illich.

But seriously, why not make a tourist attraction out of him and make some money? After the mess he created for his people, it's the least he could do. ;)

Generally speaking it was Stalin who did most of the damage, Lenin was relatively innocent.

Better still, somebody is picked at random by a secret lottery every week. Then Lenin's corpse is smuggled into the 'lucky winner's' house and propped up in the wardrobe. When they go to open the wardrobe Lenin falls out on them. Imagine the paranoia it could generate!!!! :p
That wacky dictator!
And then as the cops were clearing away the corpse the latest person who'd had a heart attack from the experience, when someone asks what are they going to do about justice they can just smile and shrug. As if to say, what can you do about it?

And then, roll the credits!

Its funny really, Lenin is hardly mentioned at all until he dies...:P

what part of "preserved forever in a mausoleum" don't they understand?

Lenin was a great person, one of the most important persons in history. He was a hardliner in politics, but he was a gentle and kind man in ordinary life. He never wanted any privileges for him (he even disciplined two of Soivet officials who secretly raised Lenin's salary during the starving years of the Civil war). He and Trotsky created something that could have lead into a better life for people, unforunately he died and sick Stalin came to power.

I suggest that everyone read Lenin's biography (by Louis Fischer) and then make judgements about Lenin.

Imagine if stalin hadn't betrayed the revolution. :fluffle: awesome emoticons :eek: :gundge: :headbang:

Imagine if stalin hadn't betrayed the revolution.

then we'd get to have even more complaints about the tyrannical practices of lenin and pals, instead of largely ignoring them because stalin took it up a notch. it wasn't under stalin that kropotkin wrote,

"Unhappily, this effort has been made in Russia under a strongly centralized party dictatorship. This effort was made in the same way as the extremely centralized and Jacobin endeavor of Baboeuf. I owe it to you to say frankly that, according to my view, this effort to build a communist republic on the basis of a strongly centralized state communism under the iron law of party dictatorship is bound to end in failure. We are learning to know in Russia how not to introduce communism, even with a people tired of the old regime and opposing no active resistance to the experiments of the new rulers."

Can they bury Bush when they bury him?

Can they bury Bush when they bury him?

can we at least bang on the table with a shoe while saying we're going to do it?

Can they bury Bush when they bury him?
No, they're simply going to display Bush in the case that held Lenin.

Is this like that stigma against cremation that I've noticed on television shows? What's wrong with cremation?

well has his body been preserved, or is he nothing but bones by now?

well has his body been preserved, or is he nothing but bones by now?

It's preserved.

Lenin could make a posthumous contribution to Russian capitalism.
Quite ironic, no?

There's a thought: put a dead statesman in a glass box for all to see, but DON'T preserve his body! These days, I bet people would flock to see him decompose.

They should throw his body into a vat of acid. He was a cruel and ruthless dictator. I oppose all autocracies, whether they're on the left or right.

They should throw his body into a vat of acid. He was a cruel and ruthless dictator. I oppose all autocracies, whether they're on the left or right.
He was nowhere near as bad as Stalin or Mao - gah they scare me.

lenin is like a historical monument....its like saying "lets bury the statue of liberty".....

He was nowhere near as bad as Stalin or Mao - gah they scare me.

Don't they scare everyone?

Bury him upside down with a stake through his heart.

Lenin specifically asked not to have any monuments to his name, so perhaps it's time fufil his last request.

But perhaps it would be better just to let the Russians decide.

But perhaps it would be better just to let the Russians decide.

If the Russians don't want him, I'll take him...

They should throw his body into a vat of acid. He was a cruel and ruthless dictator. I oppose all autocracies, whether they're on the left or right.

I oppose all dictatorships being left or right, but you have to look at it from a 1917 Russian point of view. Democracy was all but impossible in Russia. It hadn't changed for perhaps hundereds of years, and was the largest nation on the globe. People on one side probably didn't even know that the Tsar had been removed - or the country was at war.

And then the country was dragged into civil war with itself AND against British, French, Japanese and American armies. If there was any hope for continued (and I say continued because in its infancy the USSR was a democracy) democracy was killed.

Dictatorships are wrong, but many are far worse than others. He was by no means a Stalinist or Pol Pot.

Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.

Who cares? He's a corpse.

Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.


Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt your honesty, but where's the link? Where'd you hear this?

I oppose all dictatorships being left or right, but you have to look at it from a 1917 Russian point of view. Democracy was all but impossible in Russia.

except for all that democracy the bolshies systematically destroyed. all power to the soviets, my ass.

Has anyone considered that even with all the embalming and preservation...that ol' Lenin just might be starting to smell?

Has anyone considered that even with all the embalming and preservation...that ol' Lenin just might be starting to smell?

Christ no, it's not the REAL Lenin, it's a dummy made out of wax...remember the great famine? People got awfully hungry and here was this hunk of meat...

;)

You can't bury Lenin! He's a modern mummy only cooler because he's a communist.

Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt your honesty, but where's the link? Where'd you hear this?
I'm a Russian, and I heard this suggestion not long ago from the Representative of Putin in the Central Federal District (a kind of super-governor). His surname is Poltavchenko.

apparently after he died they did use a simple defribulator to try and ressurect him.

after 4 strokes thats a bit optimistic
Wow...I didn't know they had defibrillators in 1924...

Yes a senior aide to Putin advised that maybe it's time to bury him.
The decsion is dividing russia apparently, so whats your view

i only hope i can get to russia before that is so :(

but in my view, dont bury him. but if you have to, make it big grand and in a crypt somewhere that would suit him. like under the spot he is now.
They should bury him, in a suitable manner...personally I think they should bury his body in a mass grave in the middle of a forest, much the same way so many victims of communism were buried.

Wow...I didn't know they had defibrillators in 1924...
I haven't heard about that, too.

They can't bury him. He's a tourist attraction. They could make a fortune charging admission to see him and selling souveniers. Lenin could make a posthumous contribution to Russian capitalism.


Yah, and they'll sell all sorts of tickets when he SPINS IN HIS GLASS BOX!!!!!!!!

I say let him go out in a style that no one will forget. Get together all those AK-47's, Communist propaganda leaflets, Hammer and Sickles, All the trash of the Soviet era heaped around Russia and its former satellite states. Heap it into one huge pile in lets say Chernobyl. Throw him on top and light. That would be something people would remember. :D

They can't bury him. He's a tourist attraction. They could make a fortune charging admission to see him and selling souveniers. Lenin could make a posthumous contribution to Russian capitalism.

Lenin's body available in diced cubes of 1"X1" size on ebay? Might just sell for more than Mary on a toast! I think Russia should capitalize on this! Also the licencing for branded food and drink products containin Lenin's DNA could be a enormous business opportunity!

...lend me your ears. I come to bury Lenin, not to praise him.

Lenin's embalmed body should be decently disposed of: it is yet another betrayal of what he stood for to keep it in a mausoleum.

Criticism of Lenin's political praxis should also be buried, and buried deep: we do not need to discuss vanguardism over and over again, after 80 years of argument.

Lenin's political philosophy, however, does not need to be buried. It is alive and kicking, and is the only informed theory of political systems. Note: Capitalists, like Hindus, have a name only because someone gave them one.

I hear Lenin's getting pretty ripe now. Rumour has it the USSR was constantly covering up the condition of Lenin's body's constant deterioration.

Yeah. Bury him. But give him a good burial, with a decent crypt.

Yeah, Lenin is not quite the tourist attraction he used to be. I never did actually get to see his body, but the changing of the guards in front of his tomb was pretty impressive. That was in '87 though.

they oughta break every bone in his body and squeeze him out in the woods like a hiker's crap

Lenin's corpse is pretty much a skin full of chemicals (I saw a history channel special on it). They might as well replace him with a life-like model. It would be cheaper and amount to the same thing. In the end it really does not matter...