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This has been bugging me for a while. I like Nintendo, and have been playing on their systems for years. However, they have the world's most atrocious business pratices on the planet that are still legal. Let's have a brief history, shall we?

-So, we're Nintendo. We're about to unleash the next generation console, the PlayStation, with our good friends Sony. We've spent a good deal of time and energy perfecting the playing of games off of a disc. Except, we're not so sure that CD gaming is a good idea, so we're going to shaft Sony and back out. Better yet, we're going to do it one day before a press conference to announce our partnership. We'll leave them holding nothing, except for perfected CD technology, sufficent assets to produce the entire system themself, and a burning hatred for our company.

-Well, its about 6 years later, and whoopsie! We've had the crap beaten out of us endlessly by Sony all that time. But that's okay, because we still love us. So, it's time to produce a new console. But, instead of smartly incorporating the new trend of internet gaming for consoles into our plans, we're going to do nothing with it. Well, we'll pretend to support internet play, but we'll give it to about 2 games, and then stop supporting them in about a month. Sure, we could easily catch this wave of the future, but why set up a real internet service for games that are pratically screaming out for internet connectivity (Animal Crossing, anyone?) when we can fund "Mickey's Magic Mirror"! Only on Nintendo GameCube!

-So, now that we're in last place for sales, its time to clean house. First thing to go: Rareware. After all, what have they ever done for us besides make the best damn games ever to appear on the N64, if not every console ever created. But they just take so long to make those games, and they're kinda mad we didn't decide to do any real online games, so its time to send them packing. And who better to sell them to than Microsoft! After all, its not like they're not in direct competition with us, and are producing an ultra-successful system whose sales are pounding us into the ground. And they certaintly couldn't use Rare to be the driving force behind their next generation console. $375 million for it? Sure! The company is only worth about 40 times that anyway.

-But it's all good, still. We still dominate the handheld market. But wait; Sony thinks they can make a good hand held too! Isn't that just a laugh. I mean, sure, they propose having a system with amazing graphics and clarity, original games, built in mp3 player, Bluetooth, and a properly supported movie library. But that surely can't compete with Touch Screen Technology! I mean, its the player! Actually touching the screen! Sony's got nothing on that.

I suppose that's a little unfair. After all, Nintendo has done some other things right:
1. Not selling The Legend of Zelda or Mario
2. Not naming "GameCube" the "Sodomzing Rape Machine" instead.

So, Nintendo, you've got one last chance. The Reveloution is coming soon. And if this thing doesn't stick, you're done. Game Over. You don't get anymore continues.

2. Not naming "GameCube" the "Sodomzing Rape Machine" instead.

I still think loads more people would have bought it if it was called the sodomizing rape machine(or srm).imagine,inviting friends around for a go on your brand new,shiny,sodomizing rape machine.picture children the world over telling their parents they want santa to bring them a sodomizing rape machine for christmas.

Actually, imagine if Nintendo had stayed with Sony. Sony could have split apart, and would have ownership over the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises.

Sony or Microsoft will have them soon enough, the "Revolution" will be terminal.




Actually, imagine if Nintendo had stayed with Sony. Sony could have split apart, and would have ownership over the Mario, Zelda, and Metroid franchises.

Nintendo are the only ones making new concepts and eventually that'll be more important than graphics

They aren't the "only" ones making new concepts, but you're right, the graphics can only get so good and people will be wanting original games. I don't think Nintendo will be around long enough for that. I am a Nintendo fan but I feel the same way as the topic starter, they have made many crippling mistakes.

I'm an N fan too, but they're done. They've run their course. Revolution doesn't sound impressive to me at all, I don't know if they have the DVD capability yet. Many good games pass them over (GTA to name one). Revolution won't get them out of the hole, it'll cost them bunches of money, and then won't sell, especially with that new controller :rolleyes: . I'm hoping Sony will buy them so we start getting good games.

Sorry, Miyamoto (Sp?), you've done us good with Zelda and Mario, my favorites. You've run a good race, and almost won, but you've got nothing left but inovation that no one likes. Good job, we applaud thee, but you lost.

Revolution won't get them out of the hole, it'll cost them bunches of money, and then won't sell, especially with that new controller :rolleyes: .

What is wrong with you people????

For me, it's pretty simple: I don't know how that controller will play, but I am damn certain it's new; I should be able to do things with it that I have done with no other controller before.

Therefore, I am eagerly awaiting the chance to try it. I'm not prejudging it one way or the other... it may suck ass, or it may totally rule. In fact, I don't see how you can prejudge it, unless you are simply committed to a conservative view on gaming.

So there: they've sold me. I'll probably buy the system just so that I have the chance to experiment with that controller in the secrecy of my room, where no one can see any embarassing mistakes on what will possibly be a steep learning curve. Trying it in a store won't be good enough. Trying it at a friend's house won't be good enough. I guess I could rent it, but I've always been suspicious of that... what if it breaks two seconds after I start it? Am I to blame? Will I be charged? Etc...

Anyway, that's my case: it actually is something showing signs of real innovation, and I for one am not going to let it slip by without giving it a chance.

Wow, you people are really small-minded on this issue.

Nintendo's currently the only gaming company that's actually innovating. Microsoft and Sony are just enhancing the power of their systems... Nintendo's doing something new.

You're just like the critics who were, ahem, critical of the NES, because it was different. Oh, how wrong they were about it crashing and burning.

What is wrong with you people????

For me, it's pretty simple: I don't know how that controller will play, but I am damn certain it's new; I should be able to do things with it that I have done with no other controller before.

Therefore, I am eagerly awaiting the chance to try it. I'm not prejudging it one way or the other... it may suck ass, or it may totally rule. In fact, I don't see how you can prejudge it, unless you are simply committed to a conservative view on gaming.

So there: they've sold me. I'll probably buy the system just so that I have the chance to experiment with that controller in the secrecy of my room, where no one can see any embarassing mistakes on what will possibly be a steep learning curve. Trying it in a store won't be good enough. Trying it at a friend's house won't be good enough. I guess I could rent it, but I've always been suspicious of that... what if it breaks two seconds after I start it? Am I to blame? Will I be charged? Etc...

Anyway, that's my case: it actually is something showing signs of real innovation, and I for one am not going to let it slip by without giving it a chance.
I wish the world actually worked that way. Unfortunatly, Nintendo cannot afford to keep making these "innovations" without some solid grounding behind them. And, given the ineptness in the above examples, that revelation will come far too late.

Right, they ARE trying to take a steep learning curve, but what happens when an SUV takes a tight corner too sharp and too fast? It rolls over. DS was probably as far as they should go for the time being innovation-wise. I still don't know why they didn't but stuff like MP3 and video on it, but that's just me. Sure, trying new things is cool, but there's a time for everything, and this isn't it.

Like trying a new food in front of you boss, you could end up puking. That doesn't make a good impression--obviously not the right time to try new things.

Hey, howa bout some new games nintendo!

You know, rather than throwing Zelda, Mario, Fox, and Samus at us until even your fan base is pissed off. The new controllers are going to be Nintendo's big cash cow where you have to buy one accessory after another to use it on only one game.

To be honest, I cannot wait to try the new Revolution controller. It sounds fantastic.

To be honest, I cannot wait to try the new Revolution controller. It sounds fantastic.

Same here, man. Same here.

I didn't know that Nintendo sold off Rareware! What a bunch of morons! During the late SNES and early N64 days (when I was really into videogames) Rare was the best thing Nintendo had going for it. I mean, the Donkey Kong Country games, Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark, Banjo-Kazooie, those were some of the best reasons for buying a Nintendo system. I know that Nintendo has done some dumb things in the past, but selling off Rare has got to be the dumbest.

All the inovation in the world won't help if the major game labels don't like what they see.


The revoultion could be the greatest thing to come to gaming yet, or it could suck. It really does seem like Nintendo is really betting the farm on the revolution.

I'll give it chance before I condem it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!?!? Nintendo freakin rules. The DS has better sales then the PSP at this time and in case you have not seen the Revolution controller it's gonna rule.

Nintendo = :)
X-Box = :mp5:
Sony = :sniper:
Anyone else who trys to compete = :gundge:

The Revolution controller looks good. Will Microsoft and Sony fanboys buy a Revolution? No, they don't like the "remote." Will Nintendo lose more fanbase for this "remote"? Unfortunately, I can see that happening.

God save Nintendo.

The revoultion could be the greatest thing to come to gaming yet, or it could suck. It really does seem like Nintendo is really betting the farm on the revolution.

I'll give it chance before I condem it, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

I second that.

Nintendo are the only ones making new concepts and eventually that'll be more important than graphicssony, sega, and Microsoft all went to CD technology. Sega ventured into a true bonding of the handheld and console (but because they had little to no library for their VMU's they died and the company turned software only.)

Sony turned their game system into a cd player (ps1) as well as a DVD player (PS2) which was a big hit for college students on limited income.

Microsoft made the Harddrive built into their machine. making it closer to the computer than anything else.

Nintendo went to the Micro CD way. thus a game as complex as Resident Evil needed 2 CD's and of course, it was nothing more than a game machine.

My Take on the big three?

Nintendo sells games aimed to the children. their games tend to lean more to the family friendly circle. Kids will pester their parents for a chance to play with Pikachu, Mario and Zelda.

Microsoft is more for the adults. those who grew up with the NES but out grew the games. their Ideal target consumer is the pc gamer who wants to try the console.

Playstation, a nice bridge between the two. their target audience are those that want more from their gaming system but still want to keep it seperate from the computing world.

My Take on the big three?

Nintendo sells games aimed to the children. their games tend to lean more to the family friendly circle. Kids will pester their parents for a chance to play with Pikachu, Mario and Zelda.

Microsoft is more for the adults. those who grew up with the NES but out grew the games. their Ideal target consumer is the pc gamer who wants to try the console.

Playstation, a nice bridge between the two. their target audience are those that want more from their gaming system but still want to keep it seperate from the computing world.
It's a real shame that you see Nintendo that way. However, it's not your fault. Nintendo has done nothing to kill that image, and thereby get some real money.

Nintendo wouldn't have the 'kiddie' image if Xbox and Playstation fanboys didn't fling it about so often that it's become ingrained. 'Cause, you know, Resident Evil is so kiddie...

A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.

Nintendo wouldn't have the 'kiddie' image if Xbox and Playstation fanboys didn't fling it about so often that it's become ingrained. 'Cause, you know, Resident Evil is so kiddie...

A lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.
Most games on the Gamecube and DS are "kiddie" though, Nintendogs, Pikmin, Mario Sunshine, countless others that make up the majority of Nintendo's library.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!?!? Nintendo freakin rules. The DS has better sales then the PSP at this time and in case you have not seen the Revolution controller it's gonna rule.

Nintendo = :)
X-Box = :mp5:
Sony = :sniper:
Anyone else who trys to compete = :gundge:

Sir, your wisdom and ability in rhetoric is speechless.

Rather than spamming your post with emoticons and fanboy giberish maybe you should dig up some reliable resources and throw up some statistics that prove your point.

Other than that the gameboy has been upgraded about 16 times and in my humble opinion is still second rate to the PSP.
Graphics: PSP
Controls: PSP
Battery Life: DS (congrats)
Innovation: DS (Touch you, ewww)
Games: PSP (subjective)

I'm not going to blam any of the new consuls until they come out, because if you buy a system based on faith than it's nothing more than a donation.