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Franco had lost the Spanish Civil War?

Had the Axis deliberately attacked Poland? Had Spain joined the Allies as a democratic republic, or the USSR? Had affected it to the War in the Pacific, and to the USA rising?

It might have had any of those effects, but it's unlikely to have led to huge changes in the long run.
We might not have had "Guernica" or Walter Benjamin might have lived a bit longer, I suppose...

Italy and Germany wouldn't have become so close. Italy would remain neutral in WWII rather than pulling Hitler down, and Mussolini probably would have lasted quite a bit longer. Rommel would have been free to wreak havoc in France, and the Barbarossa Operation on Russia might have been more successful. WW2 might have happened earlier without Mussolini's diplomacy, though, and whether either Axis or Allies would have been ready by 37 is another story.

Ultimately, you'd probably have more fascist regimes currently active had Franco lost than you do in his victory. Nice little ironic twist there. ^^

Franco had lost the Spanish Civil War?
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My guess: No potential effect up until the fall of France?

The civil war was just a side show that the various great powers found useful as a test bed for newer & contemporary weapon systems & tactics.

This is not to disparage what the Spanish were fighting for or about. It's just that efforts put forth by the great powers tended to make things worse, even when they were not being blatantly selfish.

After the fall of France there was at least some discussion about an assault on Gibraltar. The point being to close & bolt the front door to the Mediterranean. The plan hinged on the brotherly camaraderie that should have been shown by a fellow fascist. As it was Franco had better things to do with his time, so too any Spanish government or leader who would have beat him. They would have been just as slippery to deal with as Franco was and been dedicated to the goal of rebuilding their nation.

So, ultimately, my guess is: no effect at all.

Edit: Visca POUM! Viva la Revolucion!

Franco had lost the Spanish Civil War?

Had the Axis deliberately attacked Poland? Had Spain joined the Allies as a democratic republic, or the USSR? Had affected it to the War in the Pacific, and to the USA rising?
Wait, they accidently attacked poland? Everyone is always forgetting poland :[

Question is: If you let Franco lose, then who wins? The Communists, the Anarchists or maybe the Monarchists?

Depending on who wins, Spain would've been part of different blocs.

And at any rate, the Spanish army was a comparatively small player, so it wouldn't have mattered really.
The most important thing to have happened in the Spanish Civil War was that the German Air Force learned how to do stuff - and that would've happened no matter who'd have won.

Question is: If you let Franco lose, then who wins? {snip}
Quick answer: nobody wins. Buuut ... for the sake of a good historical exercise -

My money would be on the Communists. I think that they, overall, ( & related organizations ) were the most consistently effective in fighting Franco.

Assuming that the Anglo French coalition did not choose to engage in some "Latino" adventure, in the style of the Narvik fiasco, the communists - Spanish Communists - might have been even more helpful to the allies than Franco was.